Obama spoke at the UN yesterday. In the course of defending free speech, he offered this jaw-dropper of a false equivalence:
I know there are some who ask why we don’t just ban such a video. And the answer is enshrined in our laws: Our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech.
Here in the United States, countless publications provoke offense. Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. As President of our country and Commander-in-Chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day -- (laughter) -- and I will always defend their right to do so.
People criticizing the prophet of a great religion, people criticizing Obama - it's all the same, yes? Obama can endure being mocked, so why can't these foks just get over it when someone mocks their religion?
For heaven's sake, very few of us still equate Obama with a prophet. Yes, there are Muslims who might benefit from having a thicker skin, but only a narcissist like Obama could offer his own mighty forebearance as an analogy and counterexample.
And how great is his forebearance, anyway? I don't recall much hue and cry about "Baracka Flacka Flames as Head of State", but how might the President react to a video depicting Michelle as, I don't know, a crack whore, or a depiction of Sasha and Malia as street hookers? I hope never to see such trash, but I would also hope that Obama's response would be Trumanesque.
Well, less abstractly - the US Supreme Court has upheld laws against cross-burning with the intent of racial intimidation, and rightly so. Even US free speech laws consider some types of expression as beyond the bounds of acceptance. That doesn't mean it would be acceptable for a private citizen to assault a cross-burner, but it would be acceptable for the police to arrest him.
The US does not have laws against blasphemy, but that is partly due to the differences in our history. For another example, spray-painting a swastika can be a hate crime in this country - would Obama like to listen to a lecture from an Indian leader about the religious tradition of that symbol in his country? I hope not.
I haven't listened to Obama give an entire speech in years. I read them online. Every speech has the same cadence, the same tone, the same...same. I think he is a clone. The real Obama is out playing golf somewhere.
Posted by: Sue | September 26, 2012 at 02:41 PM
The Sun King, allows for indulgences, OTOH, his minions collaborate with wretched nazguls like Larry Flynt, and the other bottom dwelling slugs,who was McGuinness's source.
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 02:45 PM
I repeat myself, but he's the Speech Code President. He just thinks that's how it should be. He makes the rules. He defines what's acceptable.
I'm always happy when a University's efforts to suppress free speech fail and even happier when the school has to pay.
But, in the world he has inhabited, speech codes are acceptable. I wonder if he could recite a single Free Speech case. Actually, I don't wonder. He's just not that smart.
Posted by: MarkO | September 26, 2012 at 02:47 PM
Obama can endure being mocked
Um no; not even close...
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2012 at 02:51 PM
'Facts not in evidence' example the first two White house Correspondence dinners,
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 02:56 PM
And we can't forget to mention, the likes of Bill Maher, who is bringing his curdled bile he calls an act down here. all the while supporting the President's pac to the tune of 1 million (pinky rings)
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 03:02 PM
would Obama like to listen...
You can stop that sentence right there, because it doesn't matter what comes after.
We all know the only thing Obama likes to listen to is the sound of his own voice.
Posted by: James D. | September 26, 2012 at 03:06 PM
The technical term for that is "tyrant".
Posted by: Rob Crawford | September 26, 2012 at 03:06 PM
Imagine having to sit through that tediously long speech being read. I couldn't read the transcript in one sitting.
Free speech should not mean interminable speech.
Posted by: sbw | September 26, 2012 at 03:20 PM
TM's link about spray painting swastikas leads to a BDN story about the synagogues in Bangor being spray painted with swastikas.Three teenagers were charged and released.The names aren't being released because they are juveniles.They should be paraded down the street,their parents beside them,because one of the teens was re-arrested at 2:45AM today for another spay painting incident. So,your idiot teen is arrested yesterday and he's out on the streets in the middle of the night.Seventeen year olds should be held accountable,prosecuted to the full extent of the law. So should the parents.Maine's AG will determine if this qualifies as a hate crime.
Posted by: marlene | September 26, 2012 at 03:20 PM
--Well, less abstractly - the US Supreme Court has upheld laws--
Tom,
The link under "upheld laws" is a repeat of the Truman link just before it.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 26, 2012 at 03:23 PM
The WaPo has just moved the PA Sen from sold D to like D. Would the senate seat go R without Romney winning?
Posted by: Sue | September 26, 2012 at 03:23 PM
OOPS! Spay=spray.
Posted by: marlene | September 26, 2012 at 03:28 PM
Sue,
Senator Sestak would admit to the possibility.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | September 26, 2012 at 03:28 PM
--Well, less abstractly - the US Supreme Court has upheld laws against cross-burning with the intent of racial intimidation, and rightly so. Even US free speech laws consider some types of expression as beyond the bounds of acceptance.--
A ban on cross burning per se was held to be unconstitutional. Cross burning with the intent to intimidate was viewed as any other form of illegal threat; more a form of criminal conduct than expression or speech.
There is nothing threatening in the video in question and therefore it bears no resemblance to cross burning with the intent to intimidate.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 26, 2012 at 03:33 PM
Well one must 'cruel in order to be kind later' so maybe that would teach them a lesson, i doubt it though.
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 03:37 PM
--The US does not have laws against blasphemy, but that is partly due to the differences in our history.--
If by "history" Tom is referring to Jesus's invocation to "love thy enemies" as opposed to Mohammad's "slay the infidels wherever you find them" then I agree.
Any subsequent history is based largely on both original statements, IMO.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 26, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Ask Tom Holland, how this willing to question boldly has worked out for him,
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 03:40 PM
I think the key point in the cross burning decisions was the fact that they were typically burning said crosses on someone's lawn.
Posted by: matt | September 26, 2012 at 03:40 PM
And some miss the point entirely;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/mona-eltahawy-arrested-for-spray-painting-anti-jihad-subway-poster_n_1915832.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 03:43 PM
People criticizing the prophet of a great religion
I thought he was talking about criticism of Mohammed.
Posted by: bgates | September 26, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Rick,
Senator Sestak would admit to the possibility.
I don't get what you are telling me. If Obama takes PA it would seem to me that he would pull the D over the finish line with him. No? Maybe the polls in PA aren't as good for the Big O as some would like us to believe?
Posted by: Sue | September 26, 2012 at 03:58 PM
FYI JOMers - Dennis Miller
Fall 2012: Dennis on the Road!
Dennis has new dates on the books for the fall. Get tickets now!
Sunday, September 30, 7PM: Snoqualmie Casino, Snoqualmie, WA
Friday, October 5, 8:00 PM: Paramount Theatre, Denver, CO
Friday, October 12th, 8:00 PM: The Orleans, Las Vegas, NV
Saturday, October 13th, 8:00 PM: The Orleans, Las Vegas, NV
Friday, October 26, 8:00 PM: Count Basie Theatre, Red Bank, NJ
Saturday, October 27, 8:00 PM: Keswick Theatre, Glenside, PA
Posted by: Janet | September 26, 2012 at 04:05 PM
James:
We all know the only thing Obama likes to listen to is the sound of his own voice.
And the Muslim call to prayer.
Posted by: hit and run | September 26, 2012 at 04:07 PM
Somewhere, somehow, some day, some way, more of Obama's academic paper trail will be unveiled, an old term paper, an old examination booklet. He's just not that smart.
Posted by: peter | September 26, 2012 at 04:09 PM
More from the French satire mag Charlie Hebdo.
"The ironic headlines include “Tunisia – all is well,” “Morocco – all is well,” “Egypt – all is well” and “Libya – all is well,” following by “Mali – all is going very well.” Others include “Prudence is the mother of safety” and “Do you know how to plant cabbages?”"
Posted by: Janet | September 26, 2012 at 04:30 PM
"Maybe the polls in PA aren't as good for the Big O as some would like us to believe?"
Sue,
Sorry for my lack of clarity. Sestak's record is actually better than Casey's and he lost. Smith is running hard and counting on the GOP GOTV effort to carry him over the line. Casey is polling right on the edge of defeat, although he has a definite lead.
The Ras Massachusetts poll today actually speaks more to your observation regarding the possibility current MFM/Uni polls are hiding more than they disclose. Obama is running 7 points (11%) below his 2008 number in a Deep Blue Hell yet the MFM/Uni pollsters would have us believe it's 2008 all over again.
Another polling factor militating against 2012 = 2008 is polling in House races. The GOP flipped five House seats in Pennsylvania in 2010. They all look like solid holds at this point and PA-12 (Dem held) is once again a toss up.
There is a similar situation in New York wrt House seats and I find it extraordinarily difficult to believe the Dems are actually coming back to 2008 levels if there isn't any movement in Blue Hells.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | September 26, 2012 at 04:43 PM
Taranto, skices and dices this bullcarp today:"But now let's look at the "slander" statement in its fuller context: "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims and Shiite pilgrims."
There are two problems with this statement. The first is that, after condemning that stupid video for the umpteenth time in the past two weeks, Obama lists a bunch of things that others "must" condemn--but he doesn't directly condemn any of them himself. Not only is his demand for the condemnation of anti-Christian speech, destruction of churches, Holocaust denial, and incitement of intra-Islamic sectarian violence likely to go unheeded, but he doesn't even heed it himself. (Has he ever? Maybe, but certainly not with the same vigor that he has shown in the case of the video.)
Second, the list is at best intellectually incoherent, at worst invidiously relativistic."
Posted by: Clarice | September 26, 2012 at 04:44 PM
Rick,
Okay, that makes more sense. If Romney is winning Rs and Is, and Obama is only winning his base, they are asking us to believe that more democrats are going to vote than Rs & Is in a year when democratic registration is down.
Posted by: Sue | September 26, 2012 at 04:51 PM
President 404 is just a dope. I'll say whatever I want about Mohammed. I don't consider him a good man much less a prophet. I have zero, zip, nada respect for the religion/political system of Islam - absolutely none.
Posted by: Janet | September 26, 2012 at 05:09 PM
Janet, you'll love Best of the Web today.
There's now evidence that it was the terrorists themselves who made the video BTW--a deliberate provocation to stir up the ME against Christians and Copts.
And LI has more evidence that Eliz Warren was practicing law in Mass without a license.
Posted by: Clarice | September 26, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Think this will affect the polls?
http://www.westernjournalism.com/court-reveals-iranian-operatives-in-charge-of-obamas-iran-policy-since-2009/
"A ruling handed down on September 13th by the D.C. District Federal Court has finally made clear what many have known for years–that the Obama Administration’s Iran policy was initiated and advanced by a group with illicit, hidden ties to the Iranian Regime and financed by the U.S./Israel- hating George Soros."
I do not understand how anyone can vote to continue this mess.
Posted by: pagar | September 26, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Wow, pagar! Another great catch.
Every new thing you read about this slime ball the more you can believe the worst things anyone says about him.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 26, 2012 at 05:28 PM
And the Muslim call to prayer.
And the wind chime voice of his composite green-speckled white girlfriend.
Posted by: Extraneus | September 26, 2012 at 05:29 PM
G'mar Hatimah Tovah
Posted by: Sara | September 26, 2012 at 05:47 PM
There's now evidence that it was the terrorists themselves who made the video BTW--a deliberate provocation to stir up the ME against Christians and Copts.
Where did they find out about it?
From the WH perhaps?
Posted by: Jane - Mock the Media! | September 26, 2012 at 05:49 PM
I have zero, zip, nada respect for the religion/political system of Islam - absolutely none.
I make it a point to badmouth Islam every time it comes up in conversation. I guess the future isn't mine.
Posted by: Soylent Red | September 26, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Thank upi, Sarah.
Here, Jane:http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/walid-showbat-innocence-of-muslims-film-was-made-by-terrorists/
Posted by: Clarice | September 26, 2012 at 05:53 PM
*"upi=you* in starving headachy language.
Posted by: Clarice | September 26, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Not surprising, since Jeremiah Wright, served as an 'agent of influence' with Cuba and Libya, the former with a DGI link, I believe it was either
Kurtz or Klein, who picked up on that.
In the previous administration, Strobe Talbott, got a leg up, in part do to KGB agents Victor Louis, re the Khruschev memoir and Sergei Tretyakov
later on, it was that sort of 'received wisdom' which looked down on Richard Pipes, and General Rowny, that he showcased in his writings.
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Matt Damon's a fracking propagandist.http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/for_his_next_escape_x46uFSONrAaCey67ZzZV0I
Posted by: Clarice | September 26, 2012 at 05:57 PM
The same Tretyakov, died the same day, the Chapman
ring, returned to Moscow;
http://sorosfiles.com/soros/2011/10/top-soros-adviser-and-confidant-strobe-talbott-identified-as-russian-dupe.html
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 06:06 PM
Hmmm...is Damon claiming all those real world fraudster environmentalists were actually in the pay of the oil companies?
If so they might have a case for defamation if they hadn't already defamed themselves by committing fraud to indict fracking in the first place.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 26, 2012 at 06:07 PM
Well they are not environmentalist, environmentalist, as Whoopi would put, Ignatz,
this does resemble the Danish cartoon incident, where additional cartoons were added by the late Abu Laaban, who came from, anyone, anyone, Egypt
and passed them around the middle east.
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 06:10 PM
Republicans crank up pressure on administration to clear up facts on Libya attack
Is "incompetent" the right word?Posted by: Extraneus | September 26, 2012 at 06:10 PM
I just texted a law school friend of mine who is a CEO and hasn't practiced law in about 20 years. I asked if he still has his law license.
He does.
Do you Clarice? Dot?
Posted by: Jane - Mock the Media! | September 26, 2012 at 06:10 PM
Tom Bethell has always aptly compared the left to a hive of bees.
Now in the age of the cult of Barry comes word of zombie bees spreading outward from a hotbed of zombies in the Bay Area of California, with cells in Washington, New York and Minnesota.
Maybe the end is nigh.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 26, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Seems to me if Obama gets reelected, there may quickly be grounds for impeachment.
Posted by: Jane - Mock the Media! | September 26, 2012 at 06:12 PM
40 minutes Clarice
Posted by: Jane - Mock the Media! | September 26, 2012 at 06:16 PM
“Is ‘incompetent’ the right word?” Or, criminal, or corrupt, or treasonous, or stupid or . . ..
Posted by: MarkO | September 26, 2012 at 06:17 PM
I get a newsfeed from FoxNews.com, which shows headlines that link to the stories.
Here's a headline from the feed:
It links to this story:
The link text above is the story's actual headline, but the text in the link itself is:
Strange. Did the story's headline change after it was posted?Posted by: Extraneus | September 26, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Of course, the interesting part is not necessarily
Nakoula's sectarian bias, but his criminal enterprises, which may have funded Hezbollah, which in turn casts some light on the 25th of shawwal date,
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Think about it;
On the same day that our president is at the UN continuing his whine about that Mohammad video the big cheese in Libya who Barry helped install says the video had zero to do with our murdered ambassador and the other killings.
Can we trade? Magarief straight across for Barry; no draft picks, no other considerations. At least he admits he has the interests of a country besides the US at heart.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 26, 2012 at 06:24 PM
I am on inactive status in Wisconsin, Md and Virginia. Technically, I still have my license but if I practice there again, I'd have to reactivate my license.
Posted by: Clarice | September 26, 2012 at 06:24 PM
Geez--I meant Wis, Md and DC.
Posted by: Clarice | September 26, 2012 at 06:25 PM
Ignazt,that zombie bee story is really scary. My late uncle kept bee hives for years but sold them a couple of years before he died. I know no one who keeps them now.
Posted by: pagar | September 26, 2012 at 06:32 PM
"Think this will affect the polls?"
Pagar, I've come to the conclusion that nothing will affect them. I simply can't imagine a more catastrophic failure of a president--and yet half the country approves of what he's done.
I don't have my license, Jane. The "continuing education" requirements in CA are pretty onerous, but more important I wasn't willing to subscribe to and read the various journals and advance sheets necessary to stay current as a practitioner. For the past fifteen years I have been able to read only laboriously.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | September 26, 2012 at 06:42 PM
PSA -
DoT's comment on reading with difficulty reminded me to click the View/Zoom option on the Firefox toolbar. I was wondering why things looked different after the last update. Duh.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | September 26, 2012 at 06:52 PM
WE have no CLE requirements in MA. Last year when I was renewing my malpractice INS, they asked if I had taken any CLE courses because for the first time it affected the premium. I hadn't. They encouraged me to lie. I didn't.
Posted by: Jane - Mock the Media! | September 26, 2012 at 06:54 PM
I know no one who keeps them now.
My younger Hatette has kept some hives.
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Gotta chuckle at Drudge right now. Wink - Wink - Wink - Wink!
Posted by: centralcal | September 26, 2012 at 07:04 PM
--I don't have my license, Jane. The "continuing education" requirements in CA are pretty onerous,....--
Does CA have an inactive status for law licenses?
They do for dental hygiene as my wife hasn't practiced ever since our daughter was born 20 years ago but she still has her license although it is inactive without any of the CE requirements.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | September 26, 2012 at 07:05 PM
Heh, Clarice, the facts change, the plot changes, but the bad guys and the good guys remain the same. Silly asses.
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Posted by: Crak heads. | September 26, 2012 at 07:07 PM
Jane: "Seems to me if Obama gets reelected, there may quickly be grounds for impeachment."
Jane if we reelect this guy in the face of all that we know, then there is zero chance we have the collective backbone or the political will to do any such thing. While Sarah's pal Romney falls over himself saying nice things about Obama ("Oh he did not raise taxes, that is true" etc), we are circling the toilet and are about to be flushed away.
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 26, 2012 at 07:08 PM
cc, omigod what a pix of the harridan. And the four winks are awesome.
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Posted by: Where'd he drudge that up? | September 26, 2012 at 07:10 PM
Gallup says that besides the truly undecided at 4-5%, that 10% of Zero supporters and 7% of Romney admit they may change their mind. Now Gallup is using RV polling but this seems significant to me.
Everywhere I look, Zero seems to have to draw to an inside straight.
Maybe I am just an incurable optimist, but know this for sure, if its R + anything, this is already a foregone conclusion.
The very best the Democrats can hope for is about D + 1 , in my humble opinion. That will likely elect Romney as well.
Posted by: GMax | September 26, 2012 at 07:12 PM
MessNBC and CNN harridan shows "committment to free speech" by trying to paint over it. Btw, it is arguably more of a pro Israel ad than anti-rock-worshiper, which isn't a race. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/09/26/cnn-and-msnbc-pundit-arrested-vandalizing-anti-muslim-ad-ny-subway-syste
Posted by: Captain Hate | September 26, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Sadly OL, I agree with you.
Posted by: Jane - Mock the Media! | September 26, 2012 at 07:26 PM
Dick Morris talks about the convention surge, and guess what he too finds the balloon to be leaking air:
In my own polling, I found a lurch to the Democrats right after their convention, but subsequent research indicates that it has since petered out. Indeed, when one compares party identification in the August and September polls of this year in swing states, the Democratic Party identification is flat while the ranks of Republicans rose by an average of two points per state.
Posted by: GMax | September 26, 2012 at 07:26 PM
Ha, Drudge is awesome. That Hillary pic - egads.
Posted by: Porchlight | September 26, 2012 at 07:26 PM
She's really sort of the Mika of the lefty Arab set, surprised that the Moslem Bros, 'unexpectedly'
won the trifecta:
http://blogs.jpost.com/content/mona-eltahawy-defends-jihad-we-are-all-proud-savages-now
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 07:29 PM
Sadly OL, I agree with you.
Me too.
Hey Captain...that lady is something. Breaking the law by spray painting stuff & then appealing to the law so she won't get hauled away. Agree too that it's mostly pro Israel...Newsbusters has a lousy headline.
Posted by: Janet | September 26, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Let me repeat that. Democrats on party ID, flat. Republicans up SIGNIFICANTLY recently in swing states.
HMMMMM
Posted by: GMax | September 26, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Why are the pollsters and media telling you this fun fact? Is there another reason beside the obvious one?
Posted by: GMax | September 26, 2012 at 07:40 PM
"DAVIS, California (Reuters) - University officials in California have agreed to pay $1 million to settle a lawsuit over a pepper-spraying incident last year that came to symbolize law enforcement aggression against anti-Wall Street protesters, attorneys said on Wednesday.
Video of the confrontation, which showed seated student protesters being pepper-sprayed by campus police at the University of California campus at Davis, was replayed widely on television and the Internet, sparking outrage among faculty and activists.
Under the terms of the settlement filed in court on Wednesday, each of the 21 students and recent graduates from the campus who sued University of California regents over the November 2011 incident will get $30,000 and a personal apology from UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi.
The deal also includes $250,000 for plaintiffs' attorney fees."
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE88P1H320120926?irpc=932
I am going to occupy my garage and pepper myself with cheap beer after reading that.
Posted by: Threadkiller | September 26, 2012 at 07:41 PM
It's nice they are so generous with tax payer funds, and this will encourage more of this behavior,
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 07:45 PM
Great Ramirez cartoon on the Bumps in the Road comment.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/09/bumps-in-the-road.php
Of course this is the graphic that makes OL's comment all the more poignant.
Posted by: rse | September 26, 2012 at 07:46 PM
If I were him, I wouldn't 'take that to the bank'
http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-taliban-amnesty-bounty-minister-112447806.html
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 07:48 PM
Boy, when you guys said to ignore Fox News I should have listened. Everyone is negative on the panel and keeps insisting that Obama is surging in the swing states. It's like the opposite of what we post here. I shall not watch until debate night which is a week away. Ican't bear the thought of another Obama term. I may just have to move to Ireland.
Posted by: maryrose | September 26, 2012 at 07:49 PM
I need GMax and his optimism.
Posted by: sailor | September 26, 2012 at 07:55 PM
I'm surprised they didn't book him on the View, seeing as Piers Morgan, found him charming;
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/26/video-ahmadinejad-addresses-pressing-global-problem-of-u-s-campaign-spending/
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 07:57 PM
sailor:
I agree. Gmax, we need you and Rick Ballard.
Posted by: maryrose | September 26, 2012 at 08:01 PM
maryrose: I am at work and cannot watch on TV, so instead I headed over to the extended panel on the web. I only lasted 5 minutes before I had to turn it off.
Both Steve Hayes and Bret were close to being in meltdown mode. (The two liberal blondes, AB and Kirsten smilingly just egged them on. I think the race is a lot nearer and dearer to some of our pundits and anchors than they dare let on (especially if they are the least bit conservative). I find the "fear" of Romney losing is sending many of them to the brink - if only he'd do this, or had done that, or will do such and such! They all need to get a grip!
Posted by: centralcal | September 26, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Here is something I have learned over the years, but cant really explain it. But it does appear to be factual.
State polling lags national polling by several weeks.
Posted by: GMax | September 26, 2012 at 08:03 PM
centracal:
Thank you for your post. I thought it was just me.There is a bad vibe of panic settling in which is just what the dems want.
One good thing; Romney didn't take the Reid bait.
Posted by: maryrose | September 26, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Has anyone found the party ID split on the three new Quinny polls in FL, OH and PA? I read that there were next to no indies sampled, but can't confirm.
The print is tiny here but I see no party ID given.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/presidential-swing-states-(fl-oh-and-pa)/release-detail?ReleaseID=1800#States
Posted by: Porchlight | September 26, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Obama using 47% comment in his stump speech today but only getting a tepid response from the crowd in Bowling Grenn, Ohio. BGSU is where I got my masters degree in guidance and counseling. It is Wood County,previously farm country about 30 minutes from the big city Toledo. It looked like a small crowd and not a lot of university students. This is where Romney can win Ohio. Tomorrow I will be phone banking again.
Posted by: maryrose | September 26, 2012 at 08:08 PM
It was + 9 D, with only 4% Ind in Florida, I imagine they went nearly Tufnel, for the other samples.
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Good for you, maryrose!
Geraghty has the breakdown from Quinny. Not sure where he found it.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/328555/mornings-polls-project-more-heavily-democratic-electorates-2008
Posted by: Porchlight | September 26, 2012 at 08:12 PM
Good morning!
It's just after 9 AM in Japan. Over here the big political news on the local channels is the dispute with China. Apparently the Japanese gave a very firm speech at the UN about who owns the disputed islands and that is being shown on many of the morning news channels.
I've got the Washington Nationals versus Philly's on one channel (Kurt Suzuki at bat), and on another channel just had the first pitch of the Texas-Oakland game. I think they are both live, but if not please don't tell me who wins.
Catch-up begins.
Posted by: daddy | September 26, 2012 at 08:13 PM
It's nice they are so generous with tax payer funds, and this will encourage more of this behavior,
Let's hope it discourages law enforcement from this type of behavior too.
Posted by: Sara | September 26, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Karl Rove says Ohio is tied.
And love him or hate him, he knows his white board.
Posted by: Jane - Mock the Media! | September 26, 2012 at 08:16 PM
maryrose,
I believe everyone needs to look for the obvious telltales which would confirm a swing state blowout. Is the DCCC bumping ad buys for House races in swing states? Has the DCCC expanded its target list in swing states? How are the Tea Party first term incumbents doing in swing states? How many first termers are in danger in Ohio or Virginia or Florida or Wisconsin? The DCCC netted 21 seats in 2008 due to that D+7 electorate. They then lost 63 seats in 2010, so shouldn't we be looking for them to net 80 or so if the D+7 fantasy were real?
I'm fine with ripping polls but we need to consider the fact there is NO CONFIRMATION of the propaganda polling in the ancillary House races.
Having an oligarch bucket of sludge as the standard bearer makes optimism close to impossible - until one considers the Kendonesian commie buck of sludge sitting in the Oval Office. This may be a race between two spavined mules but it's still a race.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | September 26, 2012 at 08:19 PM
I was thinking about that Stern video from the other day. I think I've lived a charmed life because I can honestly say I've never known anyone so incredibly dumb. But, I had an epiphany as I now have my question answered as to who keeps reelecting Barbara "Dumber than a box of rocks, call me Senator" Boxer. It all makes sense now. And what else makes sense is how Barack Obama was led to believe he's always the smartest humanoid in the room.
Posted by: Sara | September 26, 2012 at 08:20 PM
Gmax and Rick are my go to rocks for optimism, I have to agree.
The round table tonight depressed me.
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 26, 2012 at 08:21 PM
It would be nice if Dick Morris weren't so perpetually full of shit as a Christmas turkey.
Yeah Iggy, CA has an inactive status but I don't know what it entails.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | September 26, 2012 at 08:22 PM
I think this is the key bit to take away from the Dick Morris today:
Finally, with Obama below 50% of the vote in most swing states, he is hitting up against a glass ceiling in the high 40s. He can’t get past it except in heavily Democratic states like New York or California. The first time Obama breaks 50 will not be on Election Day. Either he consistently polls above 50% of the vote or he won’t ever get there in the actual vote.
I think that rings very true. They've shot everything they've got at this point, and Obama is still under 50%.
Posted by: Ranger | September 26, 2012 at 08:25 PM
Sorry, it was +6 I, I was counting just the other, but the pattern is the same for Ohio.
Posted by: narciso | September 26, 2012 at 08:25 PM
If you're going to believe the polls released from CBS/New York Times this morning -- you know, the polls the media's currently using to beat Romney senseless and to depress Republican enthusiasm, you have to believe that the turnout advantage for Democrats over Republicans will blow away every previous record and common sense.
From Breitbart - I can't seem to post the link.
Posted by: Jane - Mock the Media! | September 26, 2012 at 08:26 PM
Sue,
If you're watching, it is enjoyable to listen to Japanese Baseball announcers exclaim their reactions at such lousy play this first Inning by your Texas Center fielder. Don't know what they are actually saying, but the disapproval comes through strong, especially since as Darvish fans they are pulling so hard for Texas. Personally I'm enjoying it:)
Posted by: daddy | September 26, 2012 at 08:27 PM