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centralcal

Y

I don't know Y either!

Melinda Romanoff

Talk about leaving the viewer with a cliffhanger.

ABO becasue OMG  !           Sandy Daze

m-i-c-k-e-?

dang, if I could just come up with the next letter...

Janet

a repost of JM Hanes great observation about the NY Times article on the last thread -

"This bit in the NY Times article really jumped out at me:

Arab officials echo that sentiment, describing Mr. Obama as a cool, cerebral man who discounts the importance of personal chemistry in politics. “You can’t fix these problems by remote control,” said one Arab diplomat with long experience in Washington....

Mr. Obama’s advisers argue that when he does reach out, he is more effective.... “Were he to be calling all the time, it would run counter to our assertion that we won’t dictate the outcome of every decision in every country,” said Benjamin J. Rhodes, a top national security aide. Limiting his outreach, Mr. Rhodes said, “heightens the impact of presidential engagement” when Mr. Obama does get on the phone.

When Jay Carney was asked to explain why the Prez wasn't meeting with world leaders at the U.N., Carney's response was that Obama didn't need to do such sit-downs, because he talks to them all the time. Another one bites the dust."

Posted by: JM Hanes | September 26, 2012 at 09:11 AM

Annoying Old Guy

It symbolizes a fork in the road and how Obama always takes both paths. Obama is so advanced that he can do wave/particle duality.

- Obama Ex Oficio

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

So now I'm projecting, but does anyone else think Obama avoids these meetings because he doesn't want foreign leaders to know how utterly clueless he is.

Janet

Sorry...I should have blockquoted the bit from the NY Times.

This bit in the NY Times article really jumped out at me:

Arab officials echo that sentiment, describing Mr. Obama as a cool, cerebral man who discounts the importance of personal chemistry in politics. “You can’t fix these problems by remote control,” said one Arab diplomat with long experience in Washington....

Mr. Obama’s advisers argue that when he does reach out, he is more effective.... “Were he to be calling all the time, it would run counter to our assertion that we won’t dictate the outcome of every decision in every country,” said Benjamin J. Rhodes, a top national security aide. Limiting his outreach, Mr. Rhodes said, “heightens the impact of presidential engagement” when Mr. Obama does get on the phone.

When Jay Carney was asked to explain why the Prez wasn't meeting with world leaders at the U.N., Carney's response was that Obama didn't need to do such sit-downs, because he talks to them all the time. Another one bites the dust.

Posted by: JM Hanes | September 26, 2012 at 09:11 AM

mikey

Romney up by 2 with leaners in rasmussen, but you see Chuck Todd doesn't like Rasmussen because he doesn't approve of his methodology irregardless of his accuracy. But he takes as gospel these state polls

narciso

Possibly, but you think they haven't relayed the message, one gets a little flavor from the Wikileaks with the Gulf Arabs 'hair on fire' over the Iranian bomb, while he was sending the Nowrouz letter, Even Chief Inspector Thanim, has figured out, too late, that Mossad is nowhere near his greatest enemy,

narciso

Well I don't like f. Chuck, because he's a pathetic clown, who showed his 'impartiality' by
a byline at the Huffington Post, during the last campaign, the Daily TrainWreck, should be targeted
and 'nuked from orbit' just to make sure.

JM Hanes

Jane:

I think foreign leaders have already got that figured out. At this point, almost everyone of them has a beef with Obama, and he doesn't want American voters to see the sorry big picture splashed across their television screens. It's not just about keeping Romney off the stage, although there's that too.

James D.

I really do hate Jay Carney (I know, I know - I hate a lot of people, don't I?).

I mean, does the man have no shame at all? He knows he's lying, and he knows the audience he's speaking to knows he's lying. You'd think that at some point, there'd be a lie even he won't tell, that some tiny, deeply-hidden spark of conscience or humanity would come out in him.

But apparently not.

rse

Jane- I think he is too much of a narcissist to believe that he is not up to snuff. He regards himself as superior. It is part of his overall out of touchness. He believed it when he said to Reid I have a gift. Agree with jmh that foreign leaders know he does not. At least not a positive one.

GMAX

Well I don't like f. Chuck, because he's a pathetic clown, who showed his 'impartiality' by
a byline at the Huffington Post,

X 2

Janet

They know he is a DOPE. Just look at the first bit (30 seconds) of the video from G20 Summit June 2012 at this link - Gum chewing at the G20

So embarrassing that this guy is President.

GMAX

Chuck Todd doesn't like Rasmussen because he doesn't approve of his methodology doesn't like the message of the poll results irregardless of totally ignoring his accuracy.

FTFY

narciso

Now of course, this mindset, sends even those who know better like Director Petraeus to spout the party line,


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/26/bombshell-us-knew-stevens-assassination-was-work-of-terrorists-within-24-hours-of-attack/

Janet

Here is that good neo-neocon post about the same NY Times article.

I thought this bit was interesting -
"Again with the narcissism [emphasis mine]:

Speaking privately to grieving State Department workers, the president tried to make sense of the unfolding events. He talked about how he had been a child abroad, taught to appreciate American diplomats who risked their lives for their country."

So co-workers are killed & Obama understands because he once lived abroad???

narciso

I mean on the one hand, he 'promises justice' but on the other hand, he sends all the targeters, the Mitch Rapps and the Carrie Mathesons (to be impartial) out of the country,

DebinNC

Obama is a cold fish who hides that fact behind a dazzling grin and phenomenal control over the pics released of him. Unless it can't be avoided, he doesn't put himself in situations where that control is lacking. This pic of Obama with Mexican Prez Calderon reflects the disdain and/or boredom with which BOzo views others outside his small inner circle. I bet in every interview he gives, other than with reliable syncophants like The View/Letterman, he controls the format, the setting, the lighting, the editing, the camera angles, etc. He's packaged and protected like Golden era Hollywood stars (ex. Rock Hudson and Joan Crawford) whose public personas were at odds with reality. Instead of the studio system running interference, we now have the mfm.

narciso

Now Karzai has proven to be an ass, but then again, they had the Solon of Scranton, Al Bundy,
guiding our Afghan policy,

Janet

In honor of Rob C....I've started my first Twitter hashtag - #onlyDemcouldgetawaywith

@Janet2BWS

#onlyDemcouldgetawaywith pretending to be a Cherokee Indian

Janet

@Janet2BWS

#onlyDemcouldgetawaywith listing "born in Kenya" on bio for 16yrs...& ridicule those that thought he was born in Kenya!


I actually don't know what the hell I'm doing though...so it may not amount to much. Hah!

matt

Hey Middle East...He's just not into you....

Rob Crawford
[Obama]'s packaged and protected like Golden era Hollywood stars (ex. Rock Hudson and Joan Crawford) whose public personas were at odds with reality.

If the rumors are true, a LOT like Rock Hudson.

(Except that Hudson's cover was believable.)

narciso

Now I differ with those who see any greater wisdom in Hillary, despite the Westero's faction comment to Klein, in the Amateur, Her minder, tricked her into celebrating an Eid feast on the 25th Shawwal, no they don't reschedule commemorations because of traveling delays.

Danube of Thought

Beyond all belief. Raz:

Incumbent Republican Scott Brown and his Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren remain tied in the U.S. Senate race in Massachusetts. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Massachusetts Voters finds Brown and Warren each picking up 48% of the vote. One percent (1%) prefers some other candidate, while three percent (3%) are undecided.
Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Jane- I think he is too much of a narcissist to believe that he is not up to snuff. He regards himself as superior. It is part of his overall out of touchness. He believed it when he said to Reid I have a gift. Agree with jmh that foreign leaders know he does not. At least not a positive one.

Posted by: rse | September 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM--

Hate to disagree with the esteemed rse, but narcissists do not regard themselves superior. Inside they believe precisely the opposite; that they are even more flawed and worthless than they really are. The arrogance and the condescension are a facade to hide what they consider a fatally flawed reality within. They tell the world they're smarter than their own experts and don't need to talk with their own intelligence specialists not because they believe it but because they're terrified we'll find out the truth of their incompetence.

And the term "cold fish" does not begin to describe their inhuman lack of empathy. Whether it's the snail-eyed aloofness of Barry or the phony glad handing, back slapping patter of Clinton, a narcissist has precisely as much feeling for his fellow man as his sibling in psychological dysfunction, the psychopath, which is to say none at all.
They have unfathomable depths of sympathy for themselves but their fellow man exists only to serve and honor them.

Dave (in MA)

DoT, a blast from the past:
--


MA-Sen: Rasmussen Sees Coakley Leading Brown by 9
Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 2:16 PM EST

Rasmussen (1/4, likely voters):
Martha Coakley (D): 50
Scott Brown (R): 41
Some other: 1
Not sure: 7
(MoE: ±4.5%)
Rasmussen Reports sees a nine-point race in the special election contest between Democratic AG Martha Coakley and Republican state Sen. Scott Brown to replace Ted Kennedy.
--

MarkO

For Obama, being clean, articulate (by comparison) and not having a Negro dialect has always worked before. Why shouldn't it work now?

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Iggy, the problem is they do not recognize terror as terror. So that's their motivation but no their mindset.

dublindave

Who cares about the rest of the world....we have Ohio in the bag and that's all that matters.

I'm mentally spending the American people's money on new Government programmes that benifit the poor.

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Janet, it's a great hashtag:

#onlyDemcouldgetawaywith

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Where is the little child who will tell the world the truth about ElJefe's new suit of clothes?

matt

I would consider Obama a classic narcissist, Iggy. With having been abandoned by his father and his mother latching onto some real strange dudes, he must have felt excluded. That can be very damaging especially when living as an outsider most of his life.

He had to have high self esteem just to get by.Somehow, he was the golden child, except there is no documentation.No evidence of his brilliance.

I remember seeing pictures of his office and McCain's, which I have brought up before here. His was, even after 18 months in the job, sterile in the extreme. Very few books around for even such a wonk as he claimed to be.It disturbed the hell out of me. There was no hejira on display.

His relations with foreign leaders are almost nonexistent, and apparently he is surrounded by the very young in the White House with the exception of his Cabinet members and senior advisors. But if you notice, there seems to be no counterpoint; no one in his inner circle who will speak the hard truths. They're sycophants and liars.

Gibbs and then Carney if in a Republican administration would have been at Bethesda heavily sedated after nervous breakdowns shortly after taking their jobs.

Instead they parrot the party line as well as any communist apparatchik declaring a record wheat harvest in the middle of a horde of locusts. Tractor production is up 276%!

The emperor truly has no clothes.

narciso

Well we saw the pattern, Fleischer was ok, then he stuck a shiv in Libby, so he would be eaten last,
McLellan didn't understand his job, so he joined the other side, and promptly has become a cipher, only Tony Snow, who left us too soon, had any real skill

MarkO

The job of the Presidental Press Secretary is not to tell the truth.

"This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative."

hit and run

Janet:

So co-workers are killed & Obama understands because he once lived abroad???

Lived abroad . . . as a child.

When Jesus was 12, he wandered away from his parents and went to the temple in Jerusalem. "Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers."

Now, when he was a child, Obama was so, so brilliant, in fact so much so that he was so over everyone's head. When he lived abroad, no one was dazzled because they were not intelligent enough to understand his wisdom, or because those who perhaps caught a glimpse were so jealous that they sought to deny it.

As the years passed, with no one having recognized his unparalleled awesomeness as a young prodigy, Obama set out to explain it to them at age 51.

matt

actually hit, they just sort of stared at him and smiled benevolently because they didn't speak English.

A company I work with hired a new General Manager recently. He came in to the lunch room on his first day and gathered all of the employees around him and made a great 20 minute speech about how he was going to change the corporate culture and that the company would be data driven and how they would leapfrog technology and lead the industry.

Which was all great except no one in the room spoke English.

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Now, when he was a child, Obama was so, so brilliant, in fact so much so that he was so over everyone's head. When he lived abroad, no one was dazzled because they were not intelligent enough to understand his wisdom, or because those who perhaps caught a glimpse were so jealous that they sought to deny it.

As sad as that is, that is exactly the media's message. In fact I bet you could get that little blurb published in the NY Times.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--He had to have high self esteem just to get by.--

That's where I disagree, matt.
They shield themselves with a fake front of high self esteem, but if one could ever get past that facade you'd find a frightened little five year old emotionally, with Zero self esteem.
They believe themselves fundamentally different and totally worthless compared to what they perceive to be "normal" people and are so terrified of the world finding out about this buried worthless person that they think they'd die if it was ever exposed. That's why the facade is so impenetrable and untreatable.

What's pitiful is the only thing that makes them so worthless, dishonest and destructive is their irrational fear of being different and fatally flawed, not any inherent flaws they actually have. I suspect even the lack of empathy stems from the need to use others to protect the inner self, which has to be disguised at any cost.

Jim Ryan

via Drudge:

Violent protests in Madrid and growing talk of secession in Catalonia are piling pressure on Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy as he moves closer to asking Europe for rescue money.

Violent protests in New York City and growing talk of secession in Texas are piling pressure on President Obama as he moves closer to appealing to U.S. allies for aid, aid which is unlikely to be forthcoming after last year's European economic collapse.

It can't happen here.

pagar

"This pic of Obama with Mexican Prez Calderon "
is scary.

With the Mexican government sending millions up here to vote for Obama I'd think there would be at least a little warmth. They look like they were taken from a deep freeze and stood in place.

Debinnc, thanks for the link.

Captain Hate

They tell the world they're smarter than their own experts and don't need to talk with their own intelligence specialists not because they believe it but because they're terrified we'll find out the truth of their incompetence.

Exactly. The toadies in his midst are hiding all pictures of his likeness being torched in the Middle East because his image is all he cares about.

rse

matt-let me know if the GM starts recommending Peter Senge's books. Sounds like he believes in organizational learning instead of serve the customer.

For the Texan JOMers, I am working on a post explaining how you can get to Transformational OBE even if your legislature and Governor did not intend to and avoided CCSSI and RTT. I went back over my notes and saw what I was afraid of so I did a search to see if a particular vendor was training in Texas and he is all over getting districts and schools ready for STAAR.

Should go up tomorrow but wanted you to have a heads up that nothing in reality has been avoided.

Plus it is more confirmation CCSSI was a ruse and what the essential elements are.

Much the same is true of Virginia by the way.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--The toadies in his midst...--

They're the people who really piss me off, CH.
Some clown like Barry didn't ask to be effected by whatever effed him up, but these sycophantic enablers sign up voluntarily to carry the water of somebody they know to be a dishonest creep.
He's got the excuse of being a mental case. What's theirs?

Danube of Thought

Thanks for that, Dave.

Rob Crawford
He's got the excuse of being a mental case. What's theirs?

Power corrupts. Not just the person with power, but those around them as well.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

A reminder of just how cold hearted the SOB in the WH is.
A sample;

if that fetus, or child - however way you want to describe it - is now outside the mother's womb and the doctor continues to think that its nonviable but there's, lets say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they're not just coming up limp and dead, they would then have to call a second physician to monitor and check off and make sure that this is not a live child that could be saved. Is that correct?

He was not only against a second doctor checking the abortionist's work to see if a baby was alive he was against giving that live baby any medical assistance.
Anyone that dead inside who manages any kind of "likability" rating has to be considered a pretty good politician.

Neo

Christians need not apply ...

He said 56 churches wanted to “Adopt-a-Delegation.” They put together gift baskets featuring Carolina Pralines and a letter welcoming them to the city and offering assistance in transportation, childcare or spiritual matters.

“We were just trying to display Southern hospitality,” he said. “We wanted them to know we were happy to serve them.”

However, DNC officials conveyed to city leaders that the Christians would not be allowed to present their gift baskets.

“I got a call from the mayor’s office speaking on behalf of the convention and they asked us not to participate,” he said. “They told us our views on women’s rights are contrary to the platform.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

But the muslims at the DNC prayer gig are all in for Dem views on women. Right. Got it.

Jack is Back

Iggy,

I have never understood that law. Forget whether you are pro-choice or pro-life but if a baby is still alive after it has exited the womb then what they do to not keep it alive is plain and simple murder of a human being. But to these creeps who make these laws its and "it" so killing an "it" is perfectly acceptable in their deviant mind and abnormal world.

He treats humans worse than a dog.

DrJ

In other news,

Pepper-sprayed UCD students get $30k each

(09-26) 10:28 PDT DAVIS -- The 21 UC Davis students who were pepper sprayed by campus police late last year will receive about $30,000 each and a formal letter of apology from the university chancellor, according to the terms of a $1 million legal settlement announced Wednesday.

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

OT weird question: A friend of mine just called me. He has a client who called him and said her husband wants to kill her. He has a history of abuse. She married him because her Visa expired.

So my friend who is her broker, has reported it to his lawyers, but he's trying to decide if he should do anything else. Is she exaggerating? (He doesn't know her well enough to know.) Will she be deported? If my friend reports it to the police the guy will be out in a day and will kill her, according to her.

I told him to tell her to go somewhere and hide, but that means she will lose her job (and the house she paid for). I said if she seriously thinks she will be killed, that's a better option. But it still sucks.

Any ideas?

pagar

"But the muslims at the DNC prayer gig"

or

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/walid-showbat-innocence-of-muslims-film-was-made-by-terrorists/

or

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/09/26/who-is-white-house-visitor-hisham-altalib/

"This administration’s idea of domestic “faith-based outreach” is tea with Muslim Brotherhood community organizers who have embedded themselves in American life for four decades with the express intent of “eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within.” Meanwhile, our commander in chief is squawking to the world about YouTube videos. The Ikhwan are laughing their bloodstained robes off."

The entire effort of the Obama regime and the DNC is to get rid of any Christian influence in America, IMO.

hit and run

Ig:

But the muslims at the DNC prayer gig are all in for Dem views on women

Obama characterized the way Muslims treat women at his UN speech yesterday as "bullying".

At the launch of an anti-bullying summit in 2011 that he co-hosted with Michelle, Obama said, “With big ears and the name that I have, I wasn’t immune. I didn’t emerge unscathed.”

It's about him.

The most famous episode* of actual bullying in the written record of President Obama's two memoirs is the time in school that . . . Obama shoved a fat black girl.

This happened several years after Obama lived abroad, learning what it is like for ambassadors to risk their lives for the US.

-----------------------

*I would like to claim that it is the only episode of bullying, but I can't. I have no idea what's in those two books that haven't become prominent blog-fodder.

Jack is Back

Why Mr. President, Why?

Devastating little ad running in Penn, Virginia, Wisconsin and Ohio. Should be running in Florida also.

For sitting with Iran instead of standing with Israel when they walked out a the UN. Good question.

maryrose

A President without empathy is really not qualified to lead a nation.
He has no feeling for the military, our heroic soldiers or for the unborn child who someone somewhere would make a home for in a moment'snotice. A friend's daughter was recently allowed to adopt a Chineses baby after a 5 year wait and thousands of dollars. The sheer joy on my friend's face when she told me was great to see.
Obama is a selfish narcossist from a dysfunctional childhood. I can't be a part of his growing up process when he has called on all the wrong people to mentor him. Had he chose better people than Wright and Ayers and VAljar he might have emerged a decent human being. But alas he chose Moochelle, the least nurturing person I know as a helpmate. Again a familiar refrain-Everything he touches...

Danube of Thought

"Any ideas?"

Let your friend and his lawyers decide what to do.

maryrose

should be Chinese and narcissist and chosen.

narciso

Siobhan Gorman in the journal (wasn't she that the Bsltimore Sun, who received those leaks from the NSA) and Adam Entous, show some of the drawbacks to the legal theory behind the drone strikes

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Dot, His lawyers just want to cover their backsides. He's struggling with whether he should call the police.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I urge everyone to read Pagar's Walid Showbat link at 1:41PM.

Amazing stuff including info about the maker of the Mohammad trailer and a disgusting tidbit about Van Jones.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Jane she should look into the local women's shelter/battered women chapter. She might not be able to go into hiding if she needs to keep her job but they might still have resources for protecting her more than she is now.
Learning how to use and carrying a gun would also be useful, if she is so disposed.

Jack is Back

Jane,

Is this situation in Mass? If he calls the police does Mass have an Arizona or Alabama type law to check immigration status if probable cause? If not, what is the risk if Visa overstayed? Unless passport is only form of ID.

Too many recent spousal killings where friends knew but no one did anything or said anything until the deed was done.

rse

pagar-the Environmental Justice Movement that Van Jones is involved with that ties to the Regional Equity Movement and Building One America tracks back to a 1992 march on DC. I have the precise name somewhere as it was followed up in 2002.

One of the key tenets involves an endorsement of Native American earth worship and spirituality. I am not particularly religious as I got enough as a child to last for 50 years but it could not be more pagan in its vision. Another one of those things like gay marriage that would play poorly if better known as a key aspect of vision.

Frau Roggenbrot

But alas he chose Moochelle, the least nurturing person I know as a helpmate...

Wasn't she quoted as saying two children were "enough"? While employed in Chicago, Mrs. Obama had a cook, a personal trainer and her mother to help with her burdens.

Danube of Thought

Obama 50, Romney 44 at Gallup. Three-point increase in the gap in one day; seven-day rolling average.

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

It's not MA. I'm not sure I'd do anything but encourage her to run away - but if she got killed that would suck.

maryrose

Frau:
Believe it or not I think of the two of them,the girls probably prefer Barack.

Porchlight

Anyone know where Slow Joe Biden is these days? Of course the media doesn't cover him because he's a negative to the Obama campaign. Just like they don't cover Ryan much anymore because he's a positive to Romney.

Except when Politico is writing pathetic "satire" that even lefties aren't picking up on.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-26/politico-s-paul-ryan-satire-the-joke-s-on-them.html

narciso

And cultivsting and amplifying with native Americans, 'No More Broken Treaties, Give
them the Wealth' was a slogan, Beck caught Van Jones, uttering at some conference or another.

It's a very Soviet way of thinking, the way they created their various Oblasts and people's republics, an example of this was seen in Reds where Beatty's character Reed, discovers they have been using Islamist appeals against the British backed Govt in Azerbaijan

maryrose

Jane:
I think the domestic shelter is the answer. Because of the Visa problem an investigation into her death would be limited. Find out immigration laws for her state and then have your friend advise her. When a person says they are going to kill you, they usually mean it especially if there has been spousal abuse previously..

narciso

It's like the environmentalist alliance with Alaska natives, to foreclose any resource development up there;

narciso

There's a reason, the South Park crew, picked Matt Damon, as a target, in the Team America films, in the LUN

Danube of Thought

Jane, I'm just suggesting that, because you don't know her at all and your friend doesn't know her very well, you really can't evaluate the various risks. Is a broker she doesn't know very well really the best place for her to seek advice?

If I were required to tell her something, it would be: get out and go where he can't find you; call the police; notify your employer what has happened. And give some thought to returning to your native country.

narciso

I get the notion, they would prefer a full fledged Salafi radical like Bel Hadj in charge;


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/26/libya-president-anti-islam-film-trailer-had-nothing-to-do-with-attack-on-us/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fn

dublindave

We Dems could take back the house,keep the Senate and the WH. If that happens might I suggest that Republicans refrain from introducing another 'insert metal object into a woman's vagina' bill in future.

Jack is Back

Rush takes the gloves off and calls out Obama as a "delusional and pathological liar".

Its from WND but I think Rush's words are accurate and easily fact checked.

While Obama is telling the UN its the movie, Hillary is laying out how its AQIM.

I wonder how Carney can handle so many dichotomy's at the same time?

rse

narciso-the Bioregional Movement is extremely active in British Columbia and has put out many of the publications used as references elsewhere. Because watersheds are the key, the movement would see BC and Alaska as a common region. Possibly Yukon and much of Alberta as well.

Same in Texas where there would cease to be a distinction called the poorly enforced Mexican border. Regions around watersheds and the globe. Not states and not countries.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

If Romney wins and the Republicans take the senate might I suggest Democrats remove spherical bony objects from their anuses in the future?

sbw

dichotomies. Sorry. That's how I roll. :-)

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Is a broker she doesn't know very well really the best place for her to seek advice

Exactly. She told her broker and her realtor. SO is that a cry for help or a screwed up woman?

I didn't have a clue so I told him I'd ask for other opinions.

Clarice

Jane, some years ago the immigration laws provided that a woman who left her American spouse because of abuse would not have her visa taken from her and could get a green card and citizenship even if the parties divorced.

She should hide, seek a restraining order, sue for divorce and find an immigration lawyer to help her figure out how to take advantage of that exception.

Dave (in MA)

Porchlight,

Enron advisor Paulie Peanuts of the NYT even fell for it.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/death-by-powerpoint-continued/

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Exactly. She told her broker and her realtor. SO is that a cry for help or a screwed up woman?--

We have no way of knowing. She could be a psycho herself, or, as an immigrant she may simply have had a hard time making close friends.
The wives of abusive men, even those who aren't immigrants, characteristically find themselves being increasingly isolated by the nutjob precisely so they will have no one to turn to.

Porchlight

Dave,

Hilarious. And "fake but accurate" seems to be the meme in the comments.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

The funniest thing is Krugman seems to think that by labeling the satire he fell for as "really clumsy" he makes Roger Simon look stupid, rather than himself, which is what everyone except NYT Koolaiders think upon reading his update.

Old Lurker

DoT 50:44 Gallup?

Anybody have the internals yet?

Sara

If that happens might I suggest that Republicans refrain from introducing another 'insert metal object into a woman's vagina' bill in future.

You obviously no absolutely nothing about pelvic exams for women nor anything about the non-invasive nature of an ultrasound. In fact, you sound pretty dumb. Stick to men's issues.

Sara

no = know

Holly

I second Clarice's advice. Six years ago, I became involved in a similar case. Added to the mix was the fact hubby had given her HIV. She was a Russian mail order "bride." She found a women's shelter where she was then connected to an immigration lawyer. There's an exception for abused spouses. She's now a citizen and remarried.

Sara

Jane: Going to the police over a threat and not an actual act is probably not going to get her any more help than a recommendation to leave and get a restraining order.

I'm not sure restraining orders do much good other than to allow the police to step in, but again, it is after the fact, if the abuser is bent on abusing or killing. She should carry a mini-recorder with her and make sure she documents any contact. And, if he has abused her or continues to, she should high tail it to the emergency room and get any injuries or bruises documented as well. She should get out and after she does, make sure she is never out alone anywhere. Change the locks and change her phone #, they love to harass. Mostly though, she needs to become hyperaware of her surroundings and if he is around, super hyperaware.

A coworker, a woman I didn't know well, was killed by her husband. I found out after the fact that several women at work were aware of the abusive nature of her marriage, but thought the woman just wanted sympathy and attention and never gave the threats much credence. So often, abusers cut their targets off from friends and family and the person being abused feels they have nowhere to go or noone who cares or would understand. And women are often too proud to admit what is going on in their lives behind closed doors. (I see this in the senior community where the abusers are the children or grandchildren.)

No matter how you slice it, it is a sick and dangerous situation.

Clarice

She should also get a gun after the restraining order. The cops cannot really protect her.

Holly

Sorry to be cryptic. Posting from cellphone.

dublindave

"You obviously no[sic] absolutely nothing about pelvic exams for women nor anything about the non-invasive nature of an ultrasound."


So you're a 'transvaginal ultrasound bill' denier?

Shall I add that to Global warming, Polls, Evolution, science etc. etc.????

Jane - Mock the Media!

Thanks for the advice Clarice and Holly, I passed it on.

Sara

She should also get a gun after the restraining order. The cops cannot really protect her.

Or, if you take my Mother's advice, a large can of ground red pepper within reach and a metal baseball bat under the mattress. Or a girl friend's advice, sleep with a claw hammer under your pillow.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki


I find this issue hilarious.
Women who are about to have objects inserted into their vaginas to kill and extricate their baby object to having an object inserted into their vagina to determine the age of the baby they're about to kill.
I find WeeDavey, who fantasizes about inserting his own object into George Zimmerman, even more hilarious if he thinks anyone besides hairy-armpit, rabid NOW types, give a fig about this issue election-wise.

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