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Joan

Matches the bloody hand print on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

Pofarmer

That's actually on sale, and endorsed by the Obama Campaign? Really? Holy cow.

Dave (in MA)

The Brown skid marks of hope and change.

Threadkiller


I'll buy this flag...

derwill

Also, I didn't realize that cheesy hand on the heart thing was meant to be a pledge of allegiance to Obama, in the way us sane people pledge allegiance to the flag. I thought they were just ♥ing him.

Just when I think these people can't get any sicker, they prove me wrong.

bunky

should be on a volleyball........

Threadkiller
UNITED STATES CODE

TITLE 4

CHAPTER 1 - THE FLAG

§ 3. Use of flag for advertising purposes; mutilation of flag

Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court. The words 'flag, standard, colors, or ensign', as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html

Dave (in MA)

IowaHawk suggests compromising with Egypt and sending them 1/2 of the Blind Sheikh.

DebinNC

Using a desecrated U.S. flag as a fund-raising tool, is nothing new for Obama.

Captain Hate

If I have to hear about the Cult of Personality, can it at least have some Stone Cold Stunners in it?

CaliCon

TK: His "OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ELECT" podium, letterhead, etc. from 2008 violated a similar federal law regarding use of the U.S. seal.

NK

Obamaniacs violating the US Code? I am Shocked and scandalized.

Danube of Thought

I've read that statute twice and I can't tell what the hell it prohibits.

jimmyk

I guess the nine stripes refer to the nine original colonies? (Now grown to 57 states, too many to fit as stars, hence the logo.)

Danube of Thought

Kind of like the Wehrmacht's personal oath of loyalty to Hitler:

The Obama campaign has launched its “For All” campaign, encouraging supporters to take pictures of themselves with their hands on their hearts and a note explaining why they support President Obama.

Actress Jessica Alba uses the Pledge of Allegiance as an example of the campaign in an email to supporters.

NK

The twit actresses pledging allegiance to JEF? In a year or so, when those same actress twits are bitching about some RR policy and freedom of expression and dissent, blah, blah, blah-- we should all firmly-- but politely-- tell them to go fuck themselves.

Clarice

Certainly it doesn't prohibit this--and a good thing that is, because it seems more harmful to him than not.

As to this: "IowaHawk suggests compromising with Egypt and sending them 1/2 of the Blind Sheikh." It suggests to me that he should be named the Sec of State in the Romney Administration. Made me laugh as did this:" HOPE, CHANGE, AND THE BENGHAZI CONSULATE"

Melinda Romanoff

TK-

My Sooper Seekret Chicago de-codering Ring and bottle opener tells me that your block quote applies to you, not me.

DebinNC

Florida county's Dem headquarters flies U.S. flag with Obama's face on it for months, and were shocked when vets complained.

matt

Kim Jong Obama shot a score of 17 playing golf at the Congressional Country Club today and was certified by foursome partners Jay Z, George Clooney, and Jay Carney.

"It was a miracle, said Jay Z of the president's shot on the 14th hole. We were used to his usually getting a hole in one, as he is the world's greatest golfer. But when the ball bounced out of the cup and all the way into the 15th cup, we knew we were witnessing something special."

After the round establishing the president as the world's greatest golver ever, foursome then retired to the clubhouse, where Big Preezy, as he is known on the course, bought the house a round of Armand de Brignac by the bottle and gave each of his partners $50,000 Patek Philippe watches to commemorate the experience."

When asked where the money to pay for the watches would come from, the president said "It's stimulus, man!" as he fist bumped all and sundry.

Danube of Thought

Breaking news received by e-mail:

This morning the Muslim Brotherhood warned the United States that if the U.S. continued meddling in Egypt, Libya, and other potential hot spots in the middle east, they intend to cut off America's supply of 7-11 and Motel 6 managers.

If this action does not yield sufficient results, cab drivers will be
next, followed by Dell, AT&T and AOL customer service reps.

Finally, if all else fails, they have threatened not to send us any more
presidents either.

It's gonna get ugly.

Melinda Romanoff

AJ Strata explains whats baked in to the polls, and, more importantly, what probably isn't.

Cross-posted.

Rob Crawford
Also, I didn't realize that cheesy hand on the heart thing was meant to be a pledge of allegiance to Obama, in the way us sane people pledge allegiance to the flag. I thought they were just ♥ing him.

Quoting (with reservations) from Wikipedia:

This principle can be most succinctly understood to mean that "the [leader's] word is above all written law" and that governmental policies, decisions, and offices ought to work toward the realization of this end. In actual political usage, it refers mainly to the practice of dictatorship within the ranks of a political party itself, and as such, it has become an earmark of political Fascism.

And:

[This ideology] sees each organization as a hierarchy of leaders, where every leader ... has absolute responsibility in his own area, demands absolute obedience from those below him and answers only to his superiors. This required obedience and loyalty even over concerns of right and wrong.

(NB: The "answers only to his superiors" describes the Obama administration's approach to oversight from Congress and the public. Not particularly the complete failure to punish Sebelius for breaking the law -- The Won approved her act, therefore there is no punishment. Contrast with Nakoula[sp?], who made The Won's life difficult and was frog-marched out of his home in the middle of the night for ostensibly for a parole violation.)

Further along:

This combined with the glorification of the one, central [leader].

And:

Carl Schmitt ... praised [their leader] in his pamphlet State, [People] and Movement because only the ruthless will of such a leader could save [their nation] and its people from the "asphalt culture" of modernity, to bring about unity and authenticity.

Edits and elisions intended to increase impact by avoiding instant revulsion in the reader. Original source LUN.

centralcal

Love it DoT - copied your email to my FB.

Threadkiller

I am confused Clarice, how does a US Code that says a representation of the flag cannot be used for advertisement purposes not be applicable?

Threadkiller

The code I cited is for the District of Colombia. Each State has their own flag code.

NK

MelR-- thanks for the Strata link. And it's a nice theory, and undoubtable correct to a point. But in truth, at JOM we get more probing questions about polls from DoT, and more empirical analysis of polls from RickB than in that Strata post. To me the best poll analysis is by Jay Cost, and JOM contributors, just one man's opinion.

Melinda Romanoff

Rob-

What's that Santayana quote again?

Janet

Jim Treacher ‏@jtLOL

I notice none of these geniuses have "SAFE EMBASSIES" written on their hands.

NJ Jan

Happy anniversary,Gmax. I am currently in Texas visiting my daughter. Love this state! Have been peeking in at JOM here and there during visit. For what its worth, I think the polls are way off the mark and do not reflect voters positions. As the economic and national security disasters continue to unfold, it will become harder and harder for the MSM to cover for JEF. Ok, back to visiting and enjoying the DFW area.

Clarice

Because to my mind it's not a representation which I take to be a copy of the flag itself.
Even representations of the flag--that is red white and blue with stars and stripes in the right numbers are regularly used wrongfully without any punishment.
http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/22/how-to-fly-old-glory-with-respect/

You can even burn a real one without penalty (unless it's made of toxic materials and you'll die like the jerk in Pakistan or was it Yemen?

Janet

If you wrote what you wanted out of your fed. govt. on your hands...what would you write?

Leave me the hell alone.
Stop spending.
MYOB
Get away from my wallet.

Janet

Hey NJ Jan!! I'm jealous. Have a great time in Texas.

Sue

NJ Jan,

Welcome to Texas.

Rob Crawford

Precisely, Janet -- I want LIBERTY, not a handout.

Sue

I was going to say give me liberty or give me death.

My favorite quote is "A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government."

I guess you could just shorten it to "a wise and frugal government".

Sue

I'm not sure anyone under the age of 50 would know who Thomas Jefferson was though.

Agent J

Matt @ 11:44 - I am posting this on my FB. (I live by the belief that it is easier to get forgiveness then to get permission.)

Melinda Romanoff

NK-

Just a different angle with a different set of eyes. The "baked in" angle is different, and, for me, new.

Pofarmer

If it's not illegal, can we at least agree it's creepy and in poor taste?

Sue

Po,

Absolutely. I posted as much on my facebook. I rarely do political stuff there. But this took me over the edge.

narciso

Happy anniversary, Gmax, everything is what is the German world for Anger, the Sufyan name doesn't appear in any of the major publications, the arming of a paramilitary
organization trying to to destabilize the Mexican government, is chalked up as poor
oversight, the Italian Court, doubles down
on stupid, with the Milan sheikh matter.

Threadkiller

DoT, is right. I am wasting my time with the law. An actual US Code that spells out the exact violation of the Obama flag really does no such and a non-binding resolution, that would violate limitations set within the Constitution if it were binding, made John McCain a natural born citizen.

Bizzaro world...

(Don't worry Rob, I am done for the day on this)

Melinda Romanoff

US Embassy in Pakistan puts out ad featuring iBama And Sgt. Pepperpantssuit stressing film not made by US Gov't. - ZH/twitter

Threadkiller

...does no such thing...

Pofarmer

US Embassy in Pakistan puts out ad featuring iBama And Sgt. Pepperpantssuit stressing film not made by US Gov't. - ZH/twitter

Friggin idiots. I say we carpet bomb em with Muslim Porn until they submit.

tattle tale

Strata's locals seem a bit more pessimistic.

kathie says:
September 18, 2012 at 9:22 am
I sure hope your assessment is correct AJ.
oneal lane says:
September 18, 2012 at 10:13 am
I hope yor right AJ, but I do not see those numbers reflected in the current general Presidential polls.
Obama should be 10 points behind!
patrioticduo says:
September 18, 2012 at 10:31 am
My only question to you AJ is the same the question I ask myself. “Are you projecting?” If I am projecting then I see myself in more other people around me. If the likely voter is like me then Obama is toast. But perhaps the likely voter is not the libertarian, independent that me myself am. And perhaps they are not you yourself are. What do you think? Are you projecting?
» The Strata-Sphere » 2012 Will Be Another Tea Party/Libertarian … says:
September 18, 2012 at 12:22 pm
[...] The Strata-Sphere » 2012 Will Be Another Tea Party/Libertarian … Go to this article [...]
AJStrata says:
September 18, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Patriiticduo,
Am I projecting or wearing rose-colored glasses? Who knows.
My views were over confident in 2008, but spot on in 2010. I feel I correctly predicted 2000 (though not how close it would be) and 2004.
But I do think the pollsters risk misreading their data *IF* the Tea Party/Libertarian voters have resisted being measured. Polls REQUIRE equal participation by all sides to reflect the general population.
So we shall see.
oneal lane says:
September 18, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Lets face it, Romney and the GOP handlers are incompetent and afraid. If he wins it will be by accident. If you want to see how to win watch the Democrats. They are tough and smart.
oneal lane says:
September 18, 2012 at 3:19 pm
The 53% er’s need to have a tax revolt and make the 47% wake up!
Neo says:
September 18, 2012 at 5:11 pm
I’ve been over to the Progressive sites .. the Tea Party is dead, they tell me over and over again. They say that the “fat cats” who funded the whole thing have moved on.
Let’s not break the spell just yet.
Neo says:
September 18, 2012 at 5:15 pm
The media only cover “Romney screwups” but the “leaks” have moved the campaigns sideways and I’m sure that Team Obama isn’t too happy with where they wandered.
It’s back on the economy and taxes.
Senator Patty Murray of Washington, a member of the Democratic leadership, said on Monday that her party is prepared to allow all of the Bush-era tax cuts to expire and for automatic spending cuts to kick in unless Republicans give up their opposition to tax increases on the wealthy.
Many Democrats are running from this line, but Pelosi has been saying for months that she and the Democratic leadership want all of the Bush tax cuts repealed.

derwill

Re the polls: I think ideologically the country is pretty evenly divided among those that bother to vote, and has been for quite some time. (Even during the Clinton years, if you assume that most of the Perot voters fell on the conservative side of the ideological line.) And I think that within the equal divides are four classes of voters: the hard right, the hard left, the center right, and the center left. In the case of the hard right and the hard left, they might not vote at all if they're unhappy with the party's current standard bearer, but they rarely cross over and vote for the other side. Whereas the center right and the center left (who often call themselves "independent" but really aren't all that independent in that they tend to consistently lean one way or the other), can be induced to cross over the other side. Which is what happened in 2008, in that a lot of people who normally fall into the center right ideologically were suffering from Bush fatigue, got seduced by the hope and change, and wanted to feel good about themselves by proving they weren't a racist and could be a part of history by voting for the first black president.

Now, today the polls that are weighing a +5 Dem and above are assuming that the voting pattern that occurred in 2008 was a permanent ideological shift--that the center right voters in 2008 who crossed over have stayed there and will accordingly vote again for the Won like they did last time. And if the Dems' gains had held steady in 2010, you could argue they would probably be right in their assumption. Instead what happened was the center right moved back across the ideological line to their fallback home, some of the ideological center left crossed over to the right, if only temporarily, and enough of the hard left stayed home--giving us the 2020 Republican rout.

So my read on the current state of affairs is this: the country is still evenly divided ideologically, but the center right that came home in 2010 isn't going to defect back to Obama again. The hard right is fired up to eleventy!! to vote ABO. The hard left has moments, like after Clinton's speech and lately Romney's "gaffe", where they get fired up but then the feeling wanes. And the center left is waffling--they are reluctant to vote for Obama again, but Romney hasn't won them over emotionally, and probably never will. But if their reason can be appealed to, or if the thought of four more years like the last four is sufficiently horrifying to them, then they will cross over and Romney will win.

Also there are some outlying things that might affect the outcome--a shoddy ground game from R/R, combined with an extraordinarily good one from the Dems, along with their usual fraud, and people who rarely if ever vote but do so this one time (which happened, I think, in 2008 to the Won's favor, but is unlikely to repeat itself--in his favor, at least.)

narciso

To put it another way, the parallels between 1892 and 2008, are remarkable, now mind you there has never been a financial crisis errupting within 60 days of the election, but still.

derwill

2020 = 2010

Melinda Romanoff

Gallup now tied: 47 up

Melinda Romanoff

iBama now -2 Approve/disapprove-Gallup

Cecil Turner

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of Barack Hussein Obama,
and to redistribution, for which it stands,
one Leader, supreme commander, #awesome,
with regulations and stimulus for all.

Rick Ballard

Just to offset the nasty taste of Ras this morning - Gallup moves to a tie and Obama's approval rating dropped back to 46%.

Meaningful? Only in the sense of reversion to norm.

Melinda Romanoff

Tim Kaine says he's open to a proposal that the 47% should pay some minimal tax.

Memebuster.

Pitzer endowment to double down on trading goals, puts half on red, and half on AAPL. Tenure guarantees offer full backing vs. "the House".

Ezra Klein

--I'm not sure anyone under the age of 50 would know who Thomas Jefferson was though.

Posted by: Sue | September 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM --

That a-hole lived, like way over a hundred years ago or something.

Dave (in MA)
What's that Santayana quote again?
Those who have heard the famous Santayana quote are doomed to repeat it?
Melinda Romanoff

Oops, sorry derwill, the anti-France protests have started in Iran.

Melinda Romanoff

Dave in-

You might have won $10,000, but you must attend this meeting!

Oh, wait....

derwill

Mel-I should've known it would take them some time to round up the usual protestors.

narciso

Dennis Miller had a good riff on O'reilly, last night, but he still insisted that Obama gives a good speech, and he's a nice guy, no on both counts.

Melinda Romanoff

Oh, jeez.

CNBC's Harwood is using George Romney clips to smear Mitt.

narciso

Lol, Dave, also quite true, as usual the absurdity suggests an example from Futurama, specifically, the appeasement of Pres. McNeil, versus the invasion fleet of Omicron Persei 8

narciso

Did he get that, from Maria Cantwell?

MarkO

He's a liar and a nasty little man.

Melinda Romanoff

MakO & narciso-

But it's the best hairpiece in the business.

Thomas Collins

Rick, isn't Gallup 7 day rolling while Ras is 3 day rolling? Ras would be more likely to reflect the (what I hope and definitely think) would be an expected couple of point drop for Romney from the "47%" tape release, while Gallup's 7 day rolling is likely to reflect more of the reaction against Obama for the 9/11/2012 jihadist attacks.

ajsdaddie

"I guess the nine stripes refer to the nine original colonies? (Now grown to 57 states, too many to fit as stars, hence the logo.)."

Posted by: jimmyk | September 20, 2012 at 11:35 AM

No, it's the Obama zero, because there are no more individual states. All of Your States Are Belong to Us! We Are the Federal Government, and We Are Here to Help!

Rick Ballard

Derwill,

That's a very good analysis. There are two additional factors which will weigh heavily in November. Obama now has a record, he's not "NEW IMPROVED FREE!!!" any more. The second factor is candidate quality and Governor Romney, while no star, is a great improvement over McVain, whose intelligence is inversely proportional to his ego and therefore very difficult to find, let alone measure.

Governor Romney appears to be pursuing a "whites of their eyes" strategy, leaving us with bayonets fixed and watches which seem to have stopped. I don't find waiting for the whistle to be particularly comforting.

narciso

So I figure, this is how the boys at Aapbara, send a message

Thomas Collins

I think this poll anxiety is going to continue until a few days following the last debate. At that point, I think it will be pretty clear whether Romney has closed the sale with the most crucial percent in this election period (not the 1% or the 99% or the 47%, but the 6%). At this point, one of three things will happen: (i) Romney will have closed the sale, and Obama will never catch up; (ii) Romney will not have closed the sale, and Obama will take a lead he won't relinquish; or (iii) the race will be in a consistent 48-48 or 49-49 mode, which will remove polling anxiety but will stimulate voter fraud and Electoral College shenanigans anxiety.

NK

RickB-- I'm fine with 'steady on men' strategy of bombarding persuadable voters all at once in October with the obvious, 8% unemployment jobs disaster, $4 gas, food prices, $16Trillion coupled with debates. I'm fine-- that is, so long as I'm not the 2d Lieut. going over the top first.

matt

the black helicopter crowd says there are secret camps out in the desert. I think we now know the purpose.

Jessica Alba is going to lure the weak minded and weak willed out with promises of pole dances and free weed and booze, and then they will find themselves in indoctrination camps for Big Preezy. That way all will hail our dear leader and the land will become one in love for the new order.

Rick Ballard

TC,

Gallup approval is three days but their head to head is seven days. The Gallup demographic splits are presented as discrete seven day averages, they are not rolled.

I don't have an opinion as to changes in rolling averages reflecting events aside from noting ephemera fade while the economy continues to really suck.

Voldemort Delenda Est !  Sandy Daze

Freedom & Liberty !

NK

Matt@1:39-- kind of like "Fembots"

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

BTW the Scott Brown debate is on at 7:00 PM EST tonite. You can see it on C-Span.

Captain Hate

Tim Kaine says he's open to a proposal that the 47% should pay some minimal tax all criticism of bad hair be designated a hate crime.

narciso

True, Captain, also one shouldn't listen to him, and operate heavy machinery.

Dave (in MA)

Sorry narciso, your pop-culture references are lost on me when they aren't about Star Trek or Monty Python.

NK

Tim Kaine and his ilk are truly detestible. They are Dems who pretend to be Repubs to get votes; if they trick enough Indie voters and get in, they vote with the Lefty Dems and screw their constituents. They disgust me even more than the Lefty Dems.

narciso

Well think of the sketch with Mr. Neutron and Teddy Salad, then.

Ezra Klein

Put this in the new, wrong thread. Belongs here;

Barbara
I guess the nine stripes refer to the nine original colonies? (Now grown to 57 states, too many to fit as stars, hence the logo.)

I'm late to the thread, so sorry if this has already been mentioned.

Obama's flag has removed the stars that represent the 50 states. The O campaign symbol replaces the power that is reserved for the states in the Constitution. According to that flag, all power in the government is now at the federal level - in Obama's hands.

They have no respect for things that mean so much to the American people. Remember what Michelle said at a memorial service at Ground Zero: "All that for a damn flag."

Ezra Klein

--At this point, one of three things will happen: (i) Romney will have closed the sale, and Obama will never catch up; (ii) Romney will not have closed the sale, and Obama will take a lead he won't relinquish; or (iii) the race will be in a consistent 48-48 or 49-49 mode, which will remove polling anxiety but will stimulate voter fraud and Electoral College shenanigans anxiety.

Posted by: Thomas Collins | September 20, 2012 at 01:35 PM--

Careful TC, you've scrambled far out on a limb there. :)

Danube of Thought

Tied at 47 at Gallup today.

Danube of Thought

Sorry Mel--just saw yours.

Rob Crawford
Obama's flag has removed the stars that represent the 50 states. The O campaign symbol replaces the power that is reserved for the states in the Constitution. According to that flag, all power in the government is now at the federal level - in Obama's hands.

Bingo.

And pledging allegiance to HIM instead of the Republic?

rse

No Barbara, they most assuredly have no respect for the things that mean so much to the American people.

And Rob fascistic describes perfectly all this systems redesign of society and its components with a "the part id define by the quality of its relationship to the Whole" meme.

We are the parts. No wonder this crowd feels so free to socially reengineer things that arose out of human action but not human intention. Things that at their core are actually amalgamations of autonomous individuals pursuing their interests and freedom. Not anymore. We get who we are from our envmt and interactions with others in bo world. Any differences are just a result of unequal opportunities and not to be further fostered.

I am a bit annoyed as I plow through yet more machinations but at least there will not be ANY ambiguity anymore. And as I said on the other thread, bo and ayers are thoroughly embedded in this atrocious template.

matt

can anyone with some artistic ability find a photo of marching Falangists or Fascisti and drop in Obama symbols onto their uniforms? Specifically not Nazis.

I truly believe we are dealing more and more with a Peronist cult of personality among these idiots.It just doesn't matter how incompetent or how statist or how anti-constitutional the man is. The argument needs to be re-framed.

Melinda Romanoff

What? No need to apologize.

Data is data.

Danube of Thought

"... a non-binding resolution, that would violate limitations set within the Constitution if it were binding, made John McCain a natural born citizen."

It did absolutely no such thing, and did not purport to; a prior federal statute did. That statute made him a natural born citizen, as a federal judge explained. Each and every judicial challenge to his eligibility was defeated. Mad Leo Donofrio a.k.a. The Paraclete a.k.a Mr. Burnweed a.k.a. Dark Knight Oracle had a different view, but then he lost every single time as well. It is amazing that there are still yokels abroad in the land who hang on that nut's every word.

Rob Crawford
And Rob fascistic describes perfectly all this systems redesign of society and its components with a "the part id define by the quality of its relationship to the Whole" meme.

My eyes were opened in college, when a doctrinaire leftist referred to "reckless individualism".

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

David Corn edited that Romney video in the part about teh middle east. He should be jailed.

OldTimer

A cringing collection of O icons designed to promote mindless idolization:

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/09/20/the-creepy-obama-cult/

Danube of Thought

I ascribe no predictive value to mid-September polls. What troubles me about the various daily snapshots of the electorate are things like this: 53% say they want Obamacare repeled, but a significant number of them are not willing to say they will vote for Romney. A substantial majority say the country is headed in the wrong direction, but many, many of them do not say they will vote for Romney. And so on....

Melinda Romanoff

Jane-

No, just should be forwarded a lot of applications for SAG.

narciso

I wonder, from the tape, can one do a little CSI, and identify who was the one that sneaked the camera, in

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