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October 06, 2012

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Clarice

Why bother withSteve? seriously? You could as well engage those wisconsinites who thought Obama should have been allowed to take TOTUS with him to the debates.

Here's the Ramirez carton narciso referred to upthread.

narciso

That's why Raddatz, will be holding the scale down for her side at every moment. The complaint is that Lehrer did not block Romney, that was his function, it's not about insuring fairness, Remember she couldn't find a single soldier in Iraq, who would vote for McCain

PD

Its funny how all of that bureaucracy can get in the way of direly needed infrastructure.

The only good infrastructure in the leftist minds is "roads and bridges."

Gonna be tough to build those roads and bridges when the heavy equipment has no petroleum fuel to run on, and without the petroleum-based asphalt to lay down on the road bed.

Frau Bettgestell

PD, I stepped in tar at the CA shore growing up in the 40s.

daddy

Good Morning!

The kind of dog that you own, that you are a parent to, really projects the person you want to be or you are,” said Klooff founder Alejandro Russo, 24, of Santiago, Chile."

"The top five breeds for attracting female attention...Labrador Retrievers...“Labs and goldens definitely imply happy people...Labrador retrievers made men appear as “great dad” material."

Woof!

Ranger

why he or anyone else would ignore 2010 is a mystery to me

Well, the general argument is that off year cycles have very different electorate composition than presidential cycles. In general, that is true, but we are now looking at two very special election cycles in a row. In 2008, ObamaCo managed to mobilize a huge swath of low information voters to go to the polls. In 2010, a huge number of "soft" off year voters actually showed up to vote against ObamaCo.

What we are going to find out this November is if 2010 was a true realignment event. If it was, then Obama will lose by a huge margin.

steve

"... Can you name the resources we are running out of in the country? Just making blanket statements does not enhance any points you're trying to make. ..."

you might be right. But I do know that land, at least here in Northern NJ, is a scarce commodity. The roads are very crowded, the rents are very high and it will be a shame to see the open space that remains being paved over.

narciso

He didn't say anything that TOTUS wouldn't have fed him, Krugman is the gold standard, and then one loses IQ points the further it goes, and then you have the raw shrieking
nazguls,

PD

I am reading we are, or starting to export LNG. We should not do that.

Ah. You're Ed Markey posting as "steve."

So, although we have a massive glut of natural gas, your position is that we should prevent companies from getting a fair price for it by selling it in markets where it can be used? This is a case where production has outstripped consumption, but the market has a mechanism for dealing with it (the mechanism being "export it to willing buyers elsewhere"). You seem to want to defeat the market.

PD

PD, I stepped in tar at the CA shore growing up in the 40s.

Lemme guess, there were no rigs offshore, right?

steve

"... we should prevent companies from getting a fair price for it by selling it in markets where it can be used? ..."

that is correct. I do not want China getting our gas.

narciso

I mean you have Wiegel questioning Allen West, what strange zeppelin flying world does the former have any credibility, The Journolist has gone 'ultraplaid'

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--But I do know that land, at least here in Northern NJ...--

I'm betting steve has his own show on MTV.

narciso

They are back to the Chauncey Gardner template, simplicity is complexity or something.

Frau Bettgestell

Absolutely right, PD. Long Beach had plenty of oil wells but not in the water, and Signal Hill was far inland.

If I may weigh in on the NG issue, I would love to own a NG car, but for some reason, only the buses and gas company employees have easy access.

Clarice

Well, here it is:http://proteinwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ramirez_20121005.jpg

Jack is Back!

We are literally watching steve twist himself into a pretzel.

Its bad if we develop resources which will grow the economy because it will attract more illegal immigrants.

narciso

Is there a chiropractor in the house?

narciso

How did you find 'the Namesake' Jib?

Danube of Thought

Engaging in a discussion with steve is a huge waste of time.

steve

quote me correctly:

"... because it will attract more immigrants. ..."

Ranger

Speaking of polls, this one is amusing (via Hot Air Headlines):

Poll: Apparent Slide for Obama Following Debate

A new poll shows a slight change in the presidential race immediately following Wednesday night's debate in Denver, with a 4-point lead for President Obama the day before the debate becoming a 1-point deficit the day after his uninspiring peformance.

On Tuesday, the Washington, D.C.-based Clarus Research Group surveyed 590 likely voters and found Obama leading Mitt Romney, 49 percent to 45 percent. On Thursday, Clarus found, in an identical number of interviews, that Romney had inched ahead by 1 point, 47 percent to 46 percent.

Obama's support slipped by 3 points and Romney's ticked up by 2 points. Because the margin of error for each survey is plus-or-minus 4 percentage points, the change between the two polls is not statistically significant. Additionally, conducting a poll only in one day can introduce additional sources of error.

Rarely have a seen a media outlet trash their own poll so severly. Makes one wonder why they would spend all that money for such a flawed product. Of course, they were hoping for a very different result when they actually comissioned the polls before the debate, and I doubt they would have included all those issues with the methodology if the results had been favorable for Obama.

daddy

Congrats DoT on Navy wupping Air Force!

PD

If I may weigh in on the NG issue, I would love to own a NG car, but for some reason, only the buses and gas company employees have easy access.

It's coming.

Jim Cramer gets a lot of derision (some deserved), but one thing he's great at is having the gas & oil execs on to talk about what they're doing. Several of these companies are actively engaged in building fueling stations. It'll benefit the trucking industry initially, along the most heavily traveled conduits, but should eventually "trickle down" to other markets and types of vehicles.

Hopefully before the Feds notice and try to help it along and screw it all up.

narciso

Well as with Lehrer, who was even disowned by Kerger, those aren't the results they were expecting.

xbradtc

Actually, we ARE running into a shortage of one critical resource.

Helium.

My local 99c store won't even fill mylar balloons anymore.

PD

quote me correctly:

"... because it will attract more immigrants. ..."

Why don't you like immigrants? Do you think we should prevent people from moving to this country?

Should we also encourage people to leave?

Jack is Back!

narciso,

The namesake started hard for me. It took me a while to get by the contrived conversations since it is not my experience that is the way Italians speak to each other. Its a little more excitable and humorous if not flat out insulting but with a pat on the back kind of verbal injury.

Now reading Mad River featuring "that f**king Flowers". By the way, Child's Wanted Man was better than the last 3 or 4 but still so contrived steve started to show up in the end (twisting the night away:)

PD

My local 99c store won't even fill mylar balloons anymore.

Women's and minorities' birthday parties hardest hit.

narciso

I think there are some folks, who might take exception to that, daddy.

I mean, Joe Nocera, whose musings will likely be the subject of a future thread, because we need some opera buffe.

Jack is Back!

PD,

You need a Publix in Wisconsin. They blow up every balloon you bring them but charge, of course.

Another valuable resource - helium. If we ever run out of that we won't be able to talk like Pee Wee Herman anymore.

Jane - Mock the Media!

Speaking of drilling:

Just heard on the WSJ report that more millionaires are being made in one county in North Dakota than anywhere in the country.

Free enterprise at work.

Maybe that should be our island.

daddy

Bartender, I'd like a shot of that there Whiskey Jack Dani, errr Jill Daniel's.

C.R.

From Breitbart:

The campaign said that just over 1.8 million people made donations to the campaign last month. According to the campaign, over 500k of these were brand-new donors, having neither given in 2008 nor 2012. 98% of contributions were under the reporting threshold of $250. Of these, the average contribution was $53.
Emphasis mine. LUN

xbradtc

Dammit, JiB, I as gonna make a joke that the helium shortage is ruining my Donald Duck impersonation.

As for Steve and his dread of immigrants, I suppose it is beyond his comprehension that the same political will that might change our energy policy might also put into place immigration policies that reduce the incentives for low skill/high risk illegal immigrants to flow to SoCal and other areas.

Jack is Back!

daddy,

Llanelli is pronouced as Phanelli in Welsh. Home of the Scarlets a legendary rugby team.

PD

Maybe that should be our island.

You wouldn't be able to find housing. The influx of people going there to work is such that they don't have places to put them all. Some people sleep in their cars, apparently.

Check it for yourself: Look for a hotel room in North Dakota and see how surprised you are at the prices.

matt

actually, Long Beach has a couple of very productive man made islands in the middle of the harbor, as well as several offshore rigs.

Seepage from the ocean floor near Santa Barbara has been known for over 150 years. I think they actually used the tar as a raw material. Sort of like the La Brea tar pits, we have so much oil in California it seeps.

Regarding peak oil, the theory has to an extent been discredited with some of the massive finds made over the past 5-10 years. Bakken alone is huge and the ones in the Gulf are as big or larger. yes, resources are finite, but I have full confidence we will manage them reasonably well.

Remember glass coke bottles? tin cans? We find newer and better alternatives. If we ever got our heads out and looked to the solar system, there is an ocean of methane on Titan that would probably run this planet for 50,000 years.

The same probably holds true for all sorts of other resources.One reason the Chinese and Indians are so interested in moon exploration.

Captain Hate

We are literally watching steve twist himself into a pretzel.

No

Danube of Thought

Thanks daddy--the Mids really surprised me.

Our dog is a Golden Retriever named Fredo. God do I love that little fellow.

daddy

Don't blink, or you'll miss Obama lying:

The Eyes Have It: Obama Blinks 1,000 Times More than Romney During 1st Debate

Jack is Back!

CH,

No what?

PD

daddy, maybe Obama was trying for the record set by Pelosi.

Jane - Mock the Media!

You wouldn't be able to find housing.

That's the point. Nothing but opportunity there.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

No, Steve is not literally a pretzel.

Captain Hate

You could as well engage those wisconsinites who thought Obama should have been allowed to take TOTUS with him to the debates.

Speaking of dimwits associated with kollidges, apparently there are some large contributors to Case Western Reserve University who share the last name with Josh Mandel who are taking great pains to point out that they aren't related to him. Which is pretty funny for a number of reasons. First, and most obviously, how dare some PARVENU who served his country (which I also thought Restraining Order had until I couldn't find it on Wiki; maybe the almost equally unlikely Eagle Scout originally confused me) share the last name of some snotty swells with more money than class. Second, Josh is a graduate of CWRU's law school, which was pointed out proudly by the law school's online newsletter when he announced his candidacy.

If Josh wins, as an alumnus I think I'll suggest that we endow a Josh Mandel fainting couch to soothe the tender sensitivies of our betters making contributions "for all the right reasons".

Captain Hate

Sorry JiB; I bust the trolls all the time when they use "literally" incorrectly. I'm an equal opportunity PITA on that.

Charlie (Colorado)

Party ID weighting may be one part of the Ras "secret recipe" but it's not the main ingredient.

Remember that Rasmussen uses a six-week running average of party ID.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Hate to disagree with anyone on Biden but he's pretty stupid.
What he does have is the ability to sound homespun and like a kindly, if bumbling, uncle. That can be a pretty effective style in a debate, especially if the other party gets nasty.
I trust Ryan won't.

Jack is Back!

No, Steve is not literally a pretzel.

Now I know why I have such a hard time helping Frederick with his grammar homework. Best to stick to the Math and Science and let his Mom do the grammar:)

Jack is Back!

In 08 Biden lied his ass off with that Cheshire grin and every time it looked like Palin caught him the moderator Gwen Awful turned it in another direction.

He is the original Senator Homer Blunderbuss and has not one once of intelligence that amounts to anything. He is a permanent gaffe machine that the MFM will discount as a disability and not to be made fun of at all.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Here is Merrian-Webster on "literally", JiB.
You're OK.

Porchlight

JiB is right. Biden will lie, lie, lie, just as he did in 2008. Ryan will have to be well-prepared enough to call him on it.

I think the strategy will be to paint Biden as a knowing, experienced, benevolent Washington journeyman who knows how to get things done. Ryan will be the young tyro with dangerous Tea Party ideas who wants to tear down and destroy all the good things the Democrats have carefully built up to help the people. Ryan won't want to be too aggressive - iron fist, velvet glove, earnest smile.

Jane - Mock the Media!

Why hasn't snoop dog been taken into custody for threatening Romney?

I'm posting that on twitter. We should try and make it happen.

hit and run

CORRECTION: In a comment yesterday, hit and run claimed that Romney yard signs were outpacing Obama signs 20-1 on his commute to work. After further research, it turns out that the ratio was badly misstated. Driving that route today, the actual sign ratio is 25 Romney signs and 0 Obama signs. We regret the error.

Pops

Somebody should ask Biden and Obama if they really want to punish the rich, why not stop giving them tax money? How much money would we save if you gave no federal checks to any person or business that are millionaires?
Sesame street has a net worth of 400 million dollars...why do we need to give them our tax dollars?

Pops

a millions of barrel of oil seep into the oceans through vents in the ocean. I haven't read it lately but there is a vent near Catalina spewing oil and causing tar balls.
The saddest part is, drilling there would actually reduce the seepage and improve the environment.

henry

Pops, your math and science make you racist. ; )

Clarice

Sarah Palin crushed Biden last time. I seriously doubt Ryan will do any worse.

Jack is Back!

Iggy,

That's what I was implying, that his words were turning himself into a pretzel. I could have just not used the word literally but I was watching the start to the Florida game which is real defensive humdinger. LSU 3 and Gators 0 but getting close.

Sara

I think the Romney approach to not focus on the deficit and the war in Afg is hurting him.

Yes, he never focuses on the debt/deficit problem. Never even mentions it. In fact, if it weren't for questions like yours, the words deficit and debt would never be used in the same sentence with Romney.

What a putz you are. Stop believing what the Obamabots tell you and do some research yourself.

"When he came into office, there was just over $10 trillion in debt. Now there's over $16 trillion in debt. If he were re-elected, I can assure you it will be almost $20 trillion in debt," Romney said. "And by the way, those debts get passed on to our kids. It's not just bad for the economy; it's not just bad for our job creation; it will -- in my opinion, it is immoral for us to pass on obligations like that to the next generation."

"And by the way, do you know what the interest bill is on that debt?" Romney continued. "The interest that you're paying on that debt every year is more than we pay for housing, for agriculture, for education, and transportation combined."

The former Massachusetts governor went on to argue that the Federal Reserve is artificially keeping interest rates low, and that a rise in rates could be catastrophic for the government and, eventually, American families.

"That bill’s going to get bigger and bigger. It is crushing. That’s the course this president has put us on,” Romney said.

Jack is Back!

Damn it. Jinxed the Gatos again.

daddy

"Best to stick to the Math and Science and let his Mom do the grammar:)"

Concur JiB,

I literally have no idea how to use that "literally" bit in a sentence proper so I literally never even try;)

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Merriam says it's OK to use it as figurative hyperbole JiB. (didn't we have this discussion with dimbulbDavey already, who accidentally got it right?)

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--I haven't read it lately but there is a vent near Catalina spewing oil and causing tar balls.--

Alec Baldwin?

Captain Hate

(didn't we have this discussion with dimbulbDavey already, who accidentally got it right?)

Unpossible

Funk and Railroads

Mitt must literally be 10 feet tall after that debate performance.

Old Lurker

How many O signs are in your backseat, Hit?

Jack is Back!

Obama is literally not a very smart man and is double literally a nasty person.

LSU only got a FG out of winning the fumble on the 10. Gators now only literally behind by 6 pts.

daddy

Literally, the wrong use of the word:

"A Joe Biden speech from August 2008 had eight uses of the word LITERALLY, including (these 6 Literallies):

The next President of the United States is going to be delivered to the most significant moment in American history since Franklin Roosevelt. He will have such an incredible opportunity, incredible opportunity, not only to change the direction of America, but LITERALLY, LITERALLY to change the direction of the world...

Ladies and gentlemen, America gave Jill and me our chance. It gave Barack and Michelle their chance to stand on this stage today. It's LITERALLY incredible.Folks, again, it's not political sloganary when I say we LITERALLY can't afford four more years of this non- energy policy written by and for the oil companies, making us more and more dependent from hostile nations on our ability to run this country and LITERALLY, not figuratively, LITERALLY putting America's security at risk, we can't afford four more years of a foreign policy that has shredded our alliances and sacrificed our moral standing around the world."

Clarice

Jane, an interesting story which suggests JEffin Kerry is really pulling for brown.

Clarice

http://blogs.bostonmagazine.com/boston_daily/2012/10/05/john-kerry-elizabeth-warren-dilemma/

Captain Hate

Jane, an interesting story which suggests JEffin Kerry is really pulling for brown.

If somebody was casting a comedy about some evil genius trying to destroy a political party by populating it with the most unlikeable people on earth, I doubt they could outdo the current crop of donks. They're like a gift.

daddy

How 'bout once we do get our JOM Island, we have a rule that anybody who says "Literally" literally gets immediately exiled, or has to instead buy a round for everybody on the island?

And no penalty for split infinitives, especially if it is obvious the splitter has literally no idea what an infinitive is in the first place, nor how to literally split the damn thing if he did.

Clarice

CH: "If somebody was casting a comedy about some evil genius trying to destroy a political party by populating it with the most unlikeable people on earth, I doubt they could outdo the current crop of donks. They're like a gift"

Literally, a gift.

Manuel Transmission

Local political update:

Coincident with our property rights problem, there is a fight about going back to a three member county council instead of the six member one we have had for the last few years. After redistricting in 2010 we are now challenging the buffoon representing our district with a conservative guy we know from our local yacht club (not as uppity as it sounds). To appreciate how this is panning out, with about an 80/20 liberal bias, we see only signs for our guy about every 100 yds along the road out toward our house. In addition, the gay fellows next door are hosting a reception for our candidate tomorrow. It has more to do with the property rights issue than national politics, but it still implies a sea change that may be reflected in the national vote count.

In addition, our Repub Gov candidate, Rob McKenna has some brilliant ads on the local media. They are quiet spots of two women chatting casually about how the other guy wants more gov to solve problems that a better business environment would obviously do better. The opposition is running a lame ad that says that McKenna is a lier, because he claims to be a moderate when he actually worked for McLame and Bush campaigns. Gasp!

Captain Hate

I have to be able to end a sentence with "to". I know it's wrong but I do it very frequently.

Captain Hate

LSU only got a FG out of winning the fumble on the 10. Gators now only literally behind by 6 pts.

I've been watching it off and on (it's been an almost perfect Autumn day and we've been out and about as well as cleaning the windows and putting the storms in); has the Mad Hatter literally eaten any grass (the real kind, not Choom-a-palooza kind) yet?

daddy

"How many O signs are in your backseat, Hit?"

LOL OL!

Captain Hate

Btw I keep seeing more Josh Mandel signs in lib areas of Beachwood.

Frau Buchstäblich

I didn't say Biden was smart; I called him a lying snake. I can now say he's literally, a lying snake. Normally, I stick up for snakes and weasels, but a lying snake is literally worthless .

Sara

My kids just got back from our nephew Christian's first Little League game. Christian is the one who we nearly lost when he was first diagnosed at four with childhood diabetes. My son says he has an arm on him like you wouldn't believe and he was the star of today's game. Woohoo!

However, the reason for this comment is yard signs. Son and d-i-l say that the neighborhoods between here and the ball field a couple miles away have LITERALLY turned blue and white over night with Romney/Ryan yard signs. Dozens and dozens of houses now sporting signs. They say not one Obama yard sign, although d-i-l says she did see 3 O bumper stickers, 1 new one and 2 faded ones from 2008 on cars in the parking lot.

Of course, this is California, albeit So. Cal and a red county that went big for McCain, so have to take it all with a grain of salt.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--I have to be able to end a sentence with "to". I know it's wrong but I do it very frequently.--

Not to worry, Cap, I do it to.

Frau Buchstäblich

CH @ 5:35 - Sez who?

Frau Buchstäblich

Sara, didn't CA pass a law giving CA's electoral votes to the candidate with the largest popular vote in the country? If it's dumb, we have it but in an alternate universe, it could come back to bite the Dems.

daddy

Rereading between Joe Biden's "LITERALLY's" above, this bit from that 2008 speech struck me:

"Folks, again, it's not political sloganary when I say we LITERALLY can't afford four more years of this non- energy policy written by and for the oil companies, making us more and more dependent from hostile nations on our ability to run this country and LITERALLY, not figuratively, LITERALLY putting America's security at risk..."

Right. Nothing has been more detrimental to realistic domestic energy production in this country the last 4 years than creepy Joe and his boss Obama.

I really wish Mitt would post this as a billboard with label beneath, literally reading "I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message."

hit and run

OL:
How many O signs are in your backseat, Hit?

None now. Great day for a bonfire here.

daddy

Captain,

Did you see who Wake Forest just throw that Touchdown pass to?

jimmyk

Sarah Palin crushed Biden last time.

Hmm, that's not what I read in the NY Times. But maybe after Barry's humiliation last Wednesday the bloom is off the rose, and the MSM might actually admit a Ryan win.

With Biden it's hard to tell if it's an intentional lie, or he just doesn't know any better and makes it up as he goes along, like the Lebanon remark.

Clarice

That's a good sign , CH.

Clarice

MT, another good sign.

Eric in Boise

Ending a sentence with a preposition is literally something up with which I will not put.

Seriously, I'm not sure I see a problem with the sentence "I don't like being lied to." That's one I use frequently; even more so since 2008.

Frau Buchstäblich

As I reported earlier from Cleoville, only the Religious Left old folks settlement and a very few Kool-aid drinkers have Obama signs and most of them are extremely cheap and wimpy looking. Very few bumper stickers. Either the thrill is gone or they are overconfident.

Jack is Back!

Maybe Ryan should throw Uncle Joe off his game as well as Raddatz by telling him he is using LITERALLY totally wrong and has been since 1955.

Dave (in MA)
The Eyes Have It: Obama Blinks 1,000 Times More than Romney During 1st Debate
So much for the moonbat I heard on the radio the next night claiming that Romney was blinking excessively and that "everyone knows" that people tend to blink when lying.
Dave (in MA)
Sarah Palin crushed Biden last time.
I still chuckle to myself every time I think of the guy at work who heard her talking about Jalal Talabani when the topic was Iraq, and he and his fellow Kool-Aid drinkers at the coffee machine the next AM were all laughing when he mentioned it as proof that she thought that the Taliban were running Iraq.
Jane - Mock the Media!

Clarice,

Every year Brown and Kerry do a bike ride together "The Pan MAss challenge" (with 1000's of their closest friends from Sturbridge to the Cape. It leaves about a 1/4 mile from where I live.

At any rate, they have apparently become good friends - a situation I frown upon.

While I go read your linked article may we please have a tease for this week's Pieces? I'm already on my 2nd cocktail so there is no doubt I will be up at 4:30 to read it first.

daddy

Yippee!

1 - 0, Coco Crisp for the A's.

Dave (in MA)
Coco Crisp for the A's
If only we could get guys like that.
Jane - Mock the Media!

Perhaps they are playing into the emerging scandal's hands:

Windfall: Obama Raises $181 Million, Only 2% of Donations Reportable

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