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November 03, 2012

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Chubby

I guess Bloomberg was too busy planning marathons, working on salt and soda legislation, etc. to waste much time reviewing disaster mitigation plans.

I fervently hope he will be dis-elected in his next run for mayor.

derwill

Didn't think to check for a new thread, so I'm re-posting it from the old one, so that my brilliant analysis doesn't go to waste . . .

What is the one thing we've been told throughout the last month or so of this race? That it all comes down to Ohio, and Ohio will come down to turnout. So, okay, lets look at Ohio.

As of 2010, party ID in Ohio was 37R/36D, so basically even. And while every every single poll, even the ones with D+bunches, has Romney winning the independents in that state, and he's ahead in the enthusiasm gap, too, but lets for the sake of argument assume that when it comes to turnout each candidate has about the same number of potential voters, which they must motivate to the polls.

But isn't turnout basically getting warm bodies to show up at a particular place at a particular time to register their support? Yes, enthusiasm helps, but you're still going to need money, volunteers, coordination and above all knowledge of who and where your voters are.

Everyone is assuming the Dems have a turnout advantage in Ohio. But I submit that in many ways, turning out people for a rally requires similar tools and strengths as turning out people to vote. Yesterday Romney's campaign TURNED OUT 30,000 people for a rally in Ohio. The Obama campaign turned out 2,600.

Pitts

An hour ago in Tucson, an intrepid skywriting pilot wrote "Romney" right over the center of town. A forlorn hope here in the deep blue hell of Pima County, but admirable spirit nonetheless.

jimmyk

I fervently hope he will be dis-elected in his next run for mayor.

He's term-limited out, though I have little hope that his successor will be any improvement, unless someone persuades Rudy to come back.

jimmyk

I fervently hope he will be dis-elected in his next run for mayor.

He's term-limited out, though I have little hope that his successor will be any improvement, unless someone persuades Rudy to come back.

narciso

this bit quite bearly earns the full Billy Madison treatment;

http://robertreich.org/#.UJVSZE3k-jc.twitter

derwill

Meanwhile, it's the Saturday before election day, and the Obama campaign is preoccupied with trying to explain away his "revenge" remark. Winning!

Danube of Thought on IPad

Rove's analysis of Ohio last night was compelling, I thought.

BR

Even the roses want him out.

Jim Ryan

Is Reich having some sort of psychological episode? That's some crazy stuff.

narciso

That was very insane, and the fact he thought nothing of admitting it, 'removes all doubt'

narciso

One of the problems, in the sotry that this account debunks is the expectation that the Triploid station chief didn't call head to Benghazi airport, and tell hem forces were underway;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/03/exclusive-security-officials-on-ground-in-libya-challenge-cia-account/

Janet

Is Reich the dwarf that hit & Elliott went to see?

Janet

Pontificatey ...hi-ho, hi-ho....

maryrose

Obama's revenge remark, "get in your enemies faces, repubs holding your future "hostage". These are nasty negative demeaning words directed at people in our country who disagree with him.A real president doesn't speak this way. He and Biden are a disgrace to the office.
Obama is wrong about Ohio because he doesn't know our history or any history for that matter. We are a republican state and we don't vote for someone whp holds paltry rallies and screams "revenge" at us.

caro

From narciso's Robert Reich link. A Romneyism:

8. Politics is a game whose only purpose is to win. Any means used to win the game is legitimate even if it involves lying and cheating, as long as it gains more supporters than it loses.

Project much?

narciso

Stick with the Reavers and/or Chtauri, stuff you know, zombies are not your thing;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/joss-whedon-romney-ad-zombie-apocalypse-video_n_2036055.html

BR

Re Benghazi - that article from sources on the ground is the most coherent one I've read so far. Incompetence, incompetence, neglect of duty by Obama and possibly Stevens, too.

maryrose

Janet:
Yes and thanks in advance for getting those packages ready for our troops. You are a trooper. We will celebrate on Wednesday when sanity is returned to our government.'
Obama and Biden are behaving like the losers they are.

maryrose

BR; I s Hillary going down because of this. In my mind her role in this is HUGE!

caro
But let's not kid ourselves, this is a bowel-stewing moment for a lot of us. We have to stay on our toes like Robert Reich at a urinal.

From the Goldberg file.

BR

Obama's strategy - wear a lifesaver called revenge when you're in quicksand.

maryrose

caro: This is the summation of the Obama/Biden campaign and they should be ashamed of themselves for stooping to this low level of gutter politics.

hrtshpdbox

He's term-limited out..
No, he can run again, but says he won't. He was term-limited out and should have been unable to run last time, in 2009, but successfully lobbied to have the term-limits law amended.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

narciso

The irony of Joss Whedon's best offering, is apprarently searching for clean ernegy, brings
a multidemensional alien invasion, and it takes a business mogul to solve the problem,

Buford Gooch

I must be a really horrible person, because I think points 2, 3, and 7 in Reich's tirade are good things.

Jack is Back

From narciso's 2:01 link to the Reich Papers:) I could dissect each of his polemics but let me start with number 4:

"Pollution, unsafe products, unsafe working conditions, financial fraud, and other negative side effects of the pursuit of profits are the price society pays for profit-driven growth. They should not be used as excuses to constrain the pursuit of profits through regulation."

Speaking from experience, when I was in engineering-construction business our mantra was not Backlog or New Work Bookings or Profit by Cutting Corners but rather Safety First. Why? Because having a safe workplace, good housekeeping and keeping lost days from accidents off the calendar mean't keeping more of the profit we earned. Nothing pays back on jobs like working safely, educating and enforcing work site practices and getting everyone not just the manual side of labor to buy into that concept.

This is what the left doesn't understand about business and regulation. Business wants regulation that is smart, keeps people safe and provides for job and commercial certainties. What they don't want or need is regulation that not risk based and incentivized for the better of the worker and the employer. Today the regulatory environment is based on punishment first over outcomes.

But then I am not one of the 10 greatest cabinet members ever who writes books sitting in a high chair at Berkley.

BR

Maryrose, most definitely! Hillary just as culpable as Obama. Remember, they were both Soros-supported. And then there's Hillary's long-time pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel record. It's no coincidence Huma Abedin works for her. They share the same sympathies with the Muslim Brotherhood.

rse

Pitts-has all the systems thinking push in Tucson schools and the Waters Foundation involvement been controversial? Is it just coming on people's radar screens?

I got a search this week along the lines of "systems thinking has ruined Tucson Unified."

I also have seen slides from this summer's Camp Snowball that make it perfectly clear there has been a marriage between the systems thinking push and Ken Kay's Partnership for 21st century skills also based in Tucson.

Both work with the cultural competency emphasis that is desired. So far in the deseg book both the Mass and Fla statewide tests have been identified as impediments to the kind of curriculum desired. Which is really what Obama's Common Core and Race to the Top are all about. Getting current tests and curriculum and lecturing gone from K-12.

hrtshpdbox

No, he can run again, but says he won't.
I should stipulate that technically he can't run again, as the new rule says only three terms, but it's just assumed he'd get that amended another time if he wants another term. Consequently, he does spend time specifying that he doesn't want a fourth term.

http://www.crownheights.info/index.php?itemid=35248

TexasIsHeaven

About Libya --
Fox had a couple of women anchors early this am, 5 to 6 am, they had a lady named Blasingame? She has something to do with some 911 organization. I have seen her on various news programs talking about Islamic terrorists. Anyway, she was saying something about a group called "Eleventh Hour Martyr", that Chris Stevens and our CIA people were recruiting fighters for Syria and also sending weapons to help the Syrians.
That Barry and Hildabeast somehow screwed this up and left our people exposed and then just left them to die.

I hate to sound so uninformed and unclear but I caught just a few minutes of this program early this am while throwing the dogs and cats out and it caught my attention.


I know there are people here who know what I am takling about. I would like to know more about this.

narciso

Reich shouldn't be this stupid, corporations are organized to manage enterprises too large
for one person or a partnership, this is why
liability is distributed among the directors,
to cite one example.

jimmyk

off!

narciso

deborah Burlingame, the sister of one the pilots on United 77, has been at the forefront
now through the organization she chairs with
Liz Cheney, in uncovering these pro jihadi schemes like the Levick group,

jimmyk

he does spend time specifying that he doesn't want a fourth term.

That's awfully generous of him, but he would almost surely lose. He barely squeaked by on '09, and has proceeded to annoy the hell out of everyone ever since.

BR


TexasIsHeaven, here's one I think Narciso linked earlier: Benghazi..., an interview with Clare Lopez, 20-yr CIA veteran re gunrunning and that WH had live feed.

Jack is Back

Tim Tebow is not shy. He tweets:

"Tim Tebow ‏@TheTimmyTebow
#SaySomethingNiceAboutObama He makes it easy to feel confident in Romney.
Retweeted by Tim Stanley"

Captain Hate

I've had it with polls. Some dimwit called me up today and after a point I just said "I'm tired of this shit" and hung up. Enough. Lifeless bodies hanging from lampposts is what I want to see.

Ras did their's professionally; the rest are horrible and deserve no credence.

BR

And this one: The real reason behind Benghazigate

"What cries out for further investigation — and debate in the remaining days of this presidential election — is whether this shipment was part of a larger covert Obama effort to transfer weapons to our enemies that could make the Iran-Contra scandal, to say nothing of Operation Fast and Furious, pale by comparison."

[What the author means by "enemies" I think is Syrian resistance which also includes AQ fighters joining the resistance, anti-Assad.]
_____________

So, it's possible Iran-backed, pro-Syrian regime terrorists attacked to prevent arms going to the Syrian resistance.

Jack is Back

She is going to be a big time player in the Romney Administration and she is not Martha McCallum. bgates, narciso and I know her as Pam Bondi our AG. She is stumping for him in Nevada today and has been all over the map since the primaries. Possible HHS since she was one of the leaders of the State suit to overturn Obamacare.

JM Hanes

derwill:

"But I submit that in many ways, turning out people for a rally requires similar tools and strengths as turning out people to vote. Yesterday Romney's campaign TURNED OUT 30,000 people for a rally in Ohio. The Obama campaign turned out 2,600."

I'd like to think it's actually more encouraging than that. All you really need for a rally is a venue and an email list. If you've got 30,000 people who will spend hours just to get through that door, they will surely be driving themselves to the polls, and you can concentrate your final push on the ones who might not.

Janet

packages ready for our troops.

That is what I did yesterday when I had to get away from politics. I have to DO something positive..an action. I know most don't like early Christmas stuff in stores, but I'm grateful.

Caro's 2:29 post is too funny! Hah!

NKOnIPad

Revenge? If JEF's winning, does he talk this way? Didn t think so. A comment last week almost persuaded me that JEF goes quietly to the lecture circuit after he loses. Nuh-uh. He goes full SloJo-Reich and blames his loss on the white folks- especially the Joos and pises all over racist amerika.

hit and run

Janet:
Is Reich the dwarf that hit & Elliott went to see?

Techically we went to see Jennifer Granholm, he just happened to be there too.

derwill

I read somewhere recently that the evangelical vote in Ohio that turned out solidly for Bush in 2004, stayed home in 2008, but are expected to turn out again for Romney this year (he's gotten some key endorsement from some evangelical leaders who are exhorting their flocks to go out and vote).

So my question is why didn't the evangelicals support McCain?

Jack is Back

Janet,

Our dentist collects the kid's Halloween candy for the troops. Better them then his bills for Frederick and us:)

NK,

If you think he is nasty little blowhard now wait until he loses - Michelle and her friends in China and Europe will not be very proud of her(?) country on November 7th but I will and so will the other 52% who voted for Romney.

Jack is Back

Techically we went to see Jennifer Granholm, he just happened to be there too.

Hit,

Were you and Elliott on the New Dating Game?

rse

jib-I met Pam at a campaign dinner in 2010 in Destin. That's interesting she is campaigning in Nevada for Romney.

JM Hanes

derwill:

I've heard that evangelicals didn't turn out for McCain in Ohio, but I'm not sure that's actually the case. It would probably be worth a fact check, but I haven't tried to google up the numbers myself.

rse

Wow. Just got a phone call that recycling creates jobs!! Hooray for Living Green! It's a good thing there are no additional expenses associated with Living Sustainably. Or costs associated with bringing me a new recycling bin when I do not have one now and do not intend to use.

Barbara
So my question is why didn't the evangelicals support McCain?

Derwill,

Just a guess, but I believe that they didn't trust McCain - and for good reason. He ran a wishy-washy campaign - practically parroting a number of Obama's policies (global warming, the Kiyoto Treaty protocols, health care). Not to diminish his record as a POW, apart from feisty Sarah Palin, he really didn't offer them much.

NKOnIPad

Oh-- thank you for the saturday thread tom m. 2 sentences 11words -- apparently you are still stuck posting on your smart phone (not-so) Anyways, hope your power and internet are back soon. Mine came on @4:20am, cable/internet were still connected phone back by 1100. Talk at the Y this morning was your part of town would get powered up monday the latest -- hope it s tomorrow. Cheers

F Reynolds

Ispos-Reuters Tracking:

Barry drops 1 from prior day...

10/29-11/2: R 46% - O 46%
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=5873

10/28-11/1: R 46% - O 47%
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=5868


henry

NK, glad you have power. Do those ingrates in Bridgeport have power yet?

Jack is Back

rse,

I believe she travels every weekend for Mitt's campaign. She is with Lindsay Graham and Kay Bailey Hutchinson this weekend in Nevada.

Thank God for the UK's Daily Mail and their great photographers. "Its the Wild West out There"

The Outer Boroughs and its not pretty. No wonder the JEF stayed away from NYC.

/You're doing a great job Bloomy (sarc).

rse

jib-from talking with her, her specialty is law and order. I would rather see her help clean up Justice.

hit and run

derwill:
I read somewhere recently that the evangelical vote in Ohio that turned out solidly for Bush in 2004, stayed home in 2008

Let's go to the exit polls!

2004
Total Vote: 5,627,545
Evangelicals: 1,406,886 (25%)
Bush: 1,069,233 (76%)
Kerry: 337,652 (24%)
Bush Margin: 731,581

2008
Total Vote: 5,721,374
Evangelicals: 1,716,412 (30%)
McCain: 1,218,652 (71%)
Obama: 463,431 (27%)
McCain Margin: 755,221

If McCain had gotten the Evangelical split equal to Bush...
McCain: 1,304,473 (+85,821)
Obama: 411,938 (-51,492)

...McCain would have picked up a net 137,313 votes in a race he lost by 262,224 votes.

DebinNC

Re McCain and OH, Bill Cunningham is, I think, a very popular, long-time talk radio guy in Cincinatti. I used to listen to him occasionally when he was on at night. McCain and Cunningham were at an OH event early in the campaign, and Cunningham committed the unpardonable sin of referring to BOzo by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama. This so offended McCain's delicate sensibilities that he publicly excoriated Cunningham, so doubt turning off many of his conservative fans.

Captain Hate

Techically we went to see Jennifer Granholm

A "gentlemen's" club?

sbw

Reich has become a parody of himself, manufacturing ten different extremely thin straw men.

Far more useful would have been for Reich to explain how what Democrats propose would be more effective at solving the underlying problems without making matters worse.

DrJ

rse,

Just got a phone call that recycling creates jobs!!

Assuming it was a real person, did you ask them if recycling creates wealth? Anything can create jobs -- digging and filling holes is an example -- but creating wealth is much more difficult. And much more important.

A benefit is that lefties have no idea how to respond, since wealth is bad bad bad.

In any event, I've returned from Pittsburgh, and it is great to be home. Wild week: first patent filed, gave a good presentation, submitted a proposal (on the road!) for $600K, and met a world-leader in the field who is eager to work with me because of all the cool things we are doing.

I ended up spending more time on the CMU campus than the conference. I take that as a good thing!

Harkening back to the booze discussion, PA still has state-controlled liquor stores, so no wine or liquor is available from what I consider the usual distribution means. I'm not sure about beer: in NY it was counted as "food," so you could get that in a grocery store. Anything else you had to purchase at a liquor store.

I did find a restaurant that served decent wine (not "real" wine) for $10/bottle. Amazing.

Bumper sticker I saw: "I support what drives liberals crazy."

Clarice

I've spent a fair amount of time in socialist countries and believe that both workers and consumers and the environment are better served in capitalist countries with reasonable regulations. My son's experiences in China match mine in the old USSR--He said he had not seen such intolerable and cruel working conditions as he saw in China and imagined this must have been what they were like hundreds of years ago in the west. No safety rules at all--not even leather aprons and goggles for foundry workers; unbreathable factory air heated and fueled by cheap anthracite coal; pollutants freely discharged onto land and water outside the factories.


I feel much the same about the locavore food movement here. I feel much safer buying food from large retailers who have a lot to lose if their products are unsafe than from who knows how well run tiny farmers as general rule.

rse

It was a recording Dr J. And congrats on the successful time in Pittsburgh. I had a meeting at a hospital there about 10 years ago and thought it was a lovely waterfront city.

Captain Hate

I'm confused about hit's numbers. First of all, it seems to disprove that evangelicals stayed at home. Second, I'm sure a bunch of people who described themselves as such were black and voted for the JEF overwhelmingly. Finally, evangelicals ought to be pretty low on the blame totem pole for 2008 after the putrid campaign McRINO ran and the economic meltdown prior to the election.

Janet

Hussein, Hussein, Hussein!...If Obama is embarrassed by it, then he needs to change it.

McCain & Lindey 'you jackass' Graham are terrible.

derwill

Thanks for evangelical figures, Hit. So bringing those evangelical votes back to the fold (so to speak) would help.

hit and run

CH:
I'm confused about hit's numbers.

Actually, hit might be confused by hit's numbers. Hold on. I did that very quickly. And I confuse very easily.

BR

I'm taking liberties with OldTimer - reposting from previous thread, it's just so good!

_________________

Did we miss this because of Sandy? If this kind of protest becomes a trend....wow.

Black Grassroots Activists Protest Obama Fundraiser, City Hall, ABC News in Chicago

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/02/Black-Grassroots-Activists-Protest-Obama-Fundraiser-City-Hall-and-ABC-News-in-Chicago

Posted by: OldTimer | November 03, 2012 at 03:43 PM

mockmook


Jack is Back | November 03, 2012 at 03:03 PM

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Pam Bondi. Hmmmm.

Isn't she one of the cowardly pols who put Zimmerman in double jeopardy? Friend of the clown Corey?

She's likeable, but doesn't seem trustworthy (for conservatism).

Captain Hate

No they're probably right, hit. Anyway thanks for the work you do.

hit and run

Huh. The exit poll questions were only for "White Evangelical/Born Again".

Huh.

derwill:
So bringing those evangelical votes back to the fold (so to speak) would help.

Yes. By defintion.

Jim Ryan

Reich's chest was heaving with sobs of hurt and anger when he wrote that. His wife must have found him inconsolable as he typed away in his den.

What the heck are we dealing with in this country, when 1/3 of the political forum is out-and-out kooks?

derwill

I don't think anyone was blaming them, Capt. Hate--at least I wasn't. But I did read that 350,000 of them supposedly stayed home in 2008, which we see from Hit's figures doesn't appear to be the case in any event.

Anyway, RR is going to win Ohio. It's an evenly divided state party registration wise, Romney leads big with the indies, and if RR is running their GOTV ground game as effectively as they've run the rest of the their campaign to date I expect him to match if not equal anything the dems can put together.

NKOnIPad

Henry-- if you don t mind can you give us a summary of the RR rallies in Wisc and the atmosphere there.

Bridgeport? I think rhe local utility handled it very well. Corrupt mayor finch opens his fat mouth, eggs/rocks thrown ute pulls people out no restoration in bridgeport until finch provides cop protection --on OT of course. Costs bankrupt bridgeport a fortune. Payback s a bitch as they say.

hit and run

Heh heheh heheehheeh haahahahaahaaahhah

Fewer than 200 people showed up to watch [Stevie] Wonder perform a handful of his hits at the early voting event in support of President Barack Obama.

Most of the people had learned of the event just hours before the 9:30 a.m. start time. Some just happened to be in the area and followed the live music.

Campaign volunteer Ken Johnson asked who in the crowd had voted early before introducing Wonder.

Nearly every hand went up.

Wonder took the stage at about 10:30 a.m.

"I do a song. You go vote. You come back. We do some more music," he said before opening with "Sir Duke."

No one left to vote after the first -- or any -- song.

A shuttle meant to take voters to the nearby Cuyahoga County Board of Elections left empty after Wonder's final song, "Superstition."
...
"Perhaps it wasn't advertised properly, but the people who are here are fired up," said Bill Milhoan, of Mentor.

Milhoan, who said he supports Obama, was one of the few people in the crowd who have not already voted.

"It would be disingenuous to say I am here because of Obama," he said. "How do you pass up a chance to see Stevie Wonder?"

Hey, Stevie Wonder is five times more popular than Sandra Fluke. So he's got that going for him, which is nice.

derwill

See, they can't even get voters to a get-out-the vote rally.

From Instapundit:

Legendary performer Stevie Wonder this morning expressed his love for Cleveland during a get-out-the-vote rally at Cleveland State University . . .

Fewer than 200 people showed up to watch Wonder perform a handful of his hits at the early voting event in support of President Barack Obama.

Most of the people had learned of the event just hours before the 9:30 a.m. start time. Some just happened to be in the area and followed the live music.

hit and run

First and last lines are mine, rest shoulda been blockquoted.

derwill

Refresh, derwill. Refresh!

gmax

Isn't Cleveland State an urban and nearly solid black U? Or I am I confused.

hit and run

Hey, we hit post in the same minute...it's a tie.

sbw

Reich starts with 1. Corporations are the basic units of society. Corporations are people, and the overriding purpose of an economy is to maximize corporate profits.

Robert, you are such a shallow thinking dweeb, mired in dated Marxian claptrap.

Individuals find it to their advantage to cooperate because, working in community with each other, they can provide more and better goods and services with less effort than individuals working alone. This is called economy.

Robert, try this: The overriding purpose of an economy is to connect individuals effectively.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

For some amusement, check out Althouse for her blistering critique of the arrangements for the Monday Madison Extravaganza for the President of Large Ears. Talk about a captive audience.

centralcal

rse:

I am by no stretch a "green weenie." But, many years ago we were forced to separate our garbage and have 3 containers for that purpose. Green=yard & garden waste; Blue=paper, aluminum, glass and plastic containers; Grey=actual garbage.

I have grown to really like it. The green waste is composted or ground (grinded?) into mulch, etc. by the city and used for city landscaping. Only the grey garbage goes to the landfill. Many folks cash in their own aluminum cans or plastic water bottles and make a few extra bucks, rather than "donating" them to the city to do the same.

It has truly amazed me how little actual garbage (grey can) I truly have for weekly pickup.

I really wouldn't want to go back to the old way of dumping everything in the same container and it all going to the monster landfill. YMMV

henry

NK, the big RR rally was yesetrday morning at the state fairgrounds -- huge overflow crowd 10-15,000. Biden got 1000 at a high school in Beloit (mostly union hacks bused in from IL). The Tea Party (maybe RR, its hard to keep up) is running a bus around today, Ann Coulter speaking and signing books all over including Racine. Walker and others are all over the place, especially the Green Bay area where WI will be decided. JEF will bring Katy Perry to Milwaukee, the Springsteen to Madison on Monday. Wall to wall commercials from all sides on TV. More phone calls per hour than even during the recall. That said, RR events outdraw JEF events by 5 to 10-1 consistently. Early voting ended yesterday, 30-40% of votes already in. RR people sound very confident, Dems getting more shrill by the hour. Tuesday will be fun, likely close but maybe a Walker level blowout coming.

DrJ

ccal,

have 3 containers for that purpose.

That's the right way to recycle. In Placer (CA) we recycle too, but get this: everything (save yard waste) goes into the trash. The county then has sorting stations where people pick out the recyclables from the trash. Incredible!

While in Pittsburgh I also got my first ride in a Chevy Volt. It was pretty new, and it seemed nice enough, but it sure was small. Wouldn't work for me, in any event.

I also saw a hybrid Porsche Cayenne. Talk about overkill!

maryrose

If they wanted a bigger turnout they should have scheduled Stevie Wonder on a school day. Sounds like bad planning to me. I thought the dems had a good ground game?Romney will take Ohio. Obama is clueless.

gmax

maybe a Walker level blowout coming.


Now admit it, you will really really really want to get a drum and go sit in the rotunda and chant "This is what, democracy looks like!"

henry

a drum? I'd bring a duck call and invite some good people out for redneck grocery shopping!

maryrose

Gmax:
I attend the Cleveland State campus with my husband where 60 or older seniors can take classes for free. It is an urban campus but all nationalities are evident. It has wonderful programs and a Law School that rivals Case Western Reserve in the number of students who pass the bar exam.
Most interesting sighting-a gal wearing a full length burka.

maryrose

henry:
I am counting on you to keep us posted on election night.Hey it's the recall blogging all over again.

henry

Gmax & maryrose, I'll add that in grad school (CWRU) I worked with some engineering profs from Cleveland State who were excellent. The TriC campus is the urban one.

centralcal

Do you know why that is DrJ? More economical to pay folks to do the yucky work, than have designated trucks for pick up? Each week 3 different trucks make the route down my street to pick up only their designated waste container. I suppose that might be cost prohibitive in a smaller city/county.

henry

maryrose, Hey it's the recall blogging all over again. Even better, this time everyone gets to play!

PD

"How do you pass up a chance to see Stevie Wonder?"

Easily.

DrJ

No idea, ccal. Placer county has some larger cities to its east (Roseville, Rocklin)so there is the requisite density in parts. My cynical side says that it provides the county with more opportunities for union labor. I've not looked into the history.

Sorting the recyclables from the trash is not a job I would want to have!

Jack is Back

If you want to watch turnovers being made without going to your local German bakery then tune into the Ole Miss v. Georgia game on CBS:)

centralcal

No kidding, DrJ. Yuck, deluxe! As it is sorting paper (tons of junk mail, etc.) glass containers, plastics, and aluminum cans seems daunting and yucky enough! :)

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