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Threadkiller

How long is a China man

Danube of Thought on IPad

The people in our little corner of North America have already signalled that they don't care. A US Ambassador was murdered on the Mediterranean coast and the Sixth Fleet had nothing in the Mediterranean but two destroyers. Why not a carrier, or an amphibious assault ship? Because we don't have enough.

Anybody think we're going to embark on a robust ship-building program to address this circumstance? Not while there are 30-year-old law students who need us to buy their contraceptives.

It's over. Sit back and watch the decline.

And maybe take a look at Mahan's "The Influence of Sea Power Upon History."

henry

Don't worry TM, Obama will prevent that from happening via the EPA and suck-up media. North Dakota will be declared uninhabitable due to the use of sand from Wisconsin in the fracking process -- its all Walker's fault. The native Americans in N Dak will be given WI as compensation, and those of us here will be made tax slaves to bail out Illinois.

Clarice

Very funny ending!

narciso

Once upon a time, secession petitionz we not considered that crazy, snarc;


http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/11/lawrence-odonnell-calls-for-secession-in-2004/

Walter

I knew there was a reason I stopped reading the peak oil blogs.

Ralph L

About the time our domestic oil production ramps up, the Saudis will open the floodgates and bankrupt them. Obama will use the opportunity to demand huge energy taxes.

narciso

The Sauds can't afford to open the taps, they have 70,000 princes to take care of, not to mention a restive population, that will not hold still with the skyrocketing food prices forever.

not_bubarooni

Honestly, if I were the Chinese I'd be thinking pipelines and not even worry about the Indian Ocean.

All they need is a land route to the oil fields of the mideast. If I were any of those nations just to the west of China whose name ended in 'stan' I'd be nervous.

henry

That's poetic justice not_b. The Chinese won't be nee about it either.

henry

nee? autocorrect has lost its marbles. "nice"

Rob Crawford

Porn site doing more reporting on Sandy than the NYT, LUN.

matt

The Indians already have a credible navy with a decent air arm. China will need a couple of carriers at least. Right now the Chinese are trying to guarantee sources of supply in Africa and South America. I guess they're rusty on their Mahan.

In North Dakota, I wonder how many of the frackers have been drinking the Federal governments milkshake. I would slant drill the hell out of it if I could. Circle some nice national park with em, as a matter of fact, or frak.

The nice who say nee, henry?

henry

Yes Matt, and I have a fine shrubbery if they need it.

Ralph L

The Sauds can't afford to open the taps
One word: volume
And it won't take very long to drive out the competition.

narciso

Ruh, roh;

://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/obama-to-hold-press-conference-tuesday-to-lie-some-more-talk-about-benghazi-protest-massacre/

jorod

Well, if our Butthead populist president needs to reduce unemployment, I'm sure he'll find a reason to start a war, anywhere, any place....

Melinda Romanoff

Saudis don't have the boats to offer up into a flooded market as it is. They don't exist and what does exist is used for floating storage as it is for the contango trade. That's why our gas is priced for Brent Crude cracking as opposed to the flood being held back at Cushing, OK which is the choke point for the Bakken flow.

They're just figuring out a way to steal the land and the mineral rights, then they'll loosen up the EPA rules, IMO.

Busy road trip. What'd I miss?

Rob Crawford
Busy road trip. What'd I miss?

The election didn't go as well as we'd hoped.

Patriot4Freedom

henry -

. . . and a few silly English kuhniggets, perhaps ?

henry

Busy road trip. What'd I miss?

Real Housewives of the Pentagon.

henry

P4F, feche les boshe. (MO French includes spelling).

Danube of Thought on IPad

"I guess they're rusty on their Mahan."

I would say they're paying him more heed than we are.

Rick Ballard

It would be fun to watch the Mohametans poke the Bear with a sharp stick. There's well over 1mbpd that's not being produced in Azerbaijan already due to fear of Bear breath and the Poles are tiptoeing with their new gas finds for the same reason.

narciso

Well after Afghanistan, Chechnya and Dagestanmm I think the thrill is hone:

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/nov/13/st-lucie-elections-supervisor-to-address/

Melinda Romanoff

Rick-

The biggest shale field ever discovered is Bazhenov. I think they'll be putting up a lot of escrow to get that field even tested, if they can find the cash.

Danube of Thought on IPad

"Saudis don't have the boats to offer up into a flooded market as it is. They don't exist and what does exist is used for floating storage as it is for the contango trade. That's why our gas is priced for Brent Crude cracking as opposed to the flood being held back at Cushing, OK which is the choke point for the Bakken flow."

I think you're ignoring the potential influence of the Thalman bushing and the revolutionary Canutten valve. Sources advise caution.

Rick Ballard

Mel,

Talk of the Chinese picking up Saudi oil when the Russian-China pipeline has been open for a year seems rather silly. Russia plans to supply both China and Japan with quite a bit of their oil needs.

The Mohametans can go fish.

Joan

I wonder as our oil production goes up (if the Obama administration doesn't stymie it with killing regulations) if the price per gallon will lower, or if the energy secretary will implement his plan to raise the price to equal the prices in Europe?

Rick Ballard

Joan,

The truly idiotic IEA report and the even more idiotic NYT coverage are both predicated upon increased use of solar and wind totems plus reducing gas usage by raising CAFE standards to the point where we'll all be riding mopeds.

I'm unsure of the point of this post but the underlying "facts" have the same relationship with reality as visions of flying unicorns farting rainbows.

Ralph L

Saudis don't have the boats to offer up into a flooded market as it is
How did they do it in the mid-80's?

I'm sending the rest of your post to Narciso for translation.

Ralph L

I meant decrypting, not translation.

narciso

I'll take a crack at it, whatwver they pump through Yambu and Ras Tanura, they have to ship in just in time, the relatively low price do not encourage any spare capacity, or building tankers for said supply,

In the 70s, the backlash from the Esso spill, gave the Dauds and the rest of Perez Alfonso's
creation, the leverage they didnn't have before.

Ralph L

I was being sarcastic.

daddy

Interesting topic.

Tonight local Talk Radio had on one of our most solid and just re-elected Alaska State Legislators discussing the problems ahead for the new Repub Majority in our House and Senate.

The discussion opened with a clip of Lisa Murkowski saying that the Obama Administration had shut off more Alaskan Federal Land in history from Energy Exploration and then Dem Mark Begich saying that Obama had promised to open up tons more of the North Slope for Exploration. Well ANWR is the North Slope, so none of the energy guests believe Begich or Obama.

Discussion came out about the recent shut down of millions of acres in NPR-A. Then this recent story in the ADN was discussed:Shell’s Arctic challenges just beginning. That story says:

"Even if Shell strikes oil in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas, it could be at least a dozen years -- and billions upon billions of dollars -- before a single drop of it arrives at a refinery."

""If we are blessed with development, there's going to be a huge amount of work," Slaiby (from Shell Oil) said, noting that includes technological development, government approvals, pipeline construction and far-reaching federally mandated environmental studies.

"It will be, I think, the largest environmental impact statement done in North America," Slaiby added. As a result, any production "will be at least a decade away, and probably longer in the Chukchi."

Part of the delay will be that they have to get Government permission to build a pipeline across the newly established eco-sensitive Arctic Coastal Zone (not the exact term but something like that), and defeat all the ensuing Lawsuits brought up re: the 380 or however many environmentally endangered or almost endangered species are currently listed up here. (380 was the number tossed out on the radio today so it may be true or facetious, I don't know, but regardless there are tons of them).

And just 3 days back I saw where The Air Force will produce an Environmental Impact Statement on moving their F-16's to Anchorage from Fairbanks, and Lisa is hopping mad about that since they disregarded her wishes and Begich's stated wishes.

Nothing up here can be done at all with EPA approval.

It appears that up here we are simply and completely controlled by the whims of the Federal Govt and the EPA. I have no idea if we will have a revolution but if so I want to play Robespierre in regards to the EPA---you guys can take the other Federal Agencies, but leave "the crucifiers" to me:)

Dave (in MA)

Howie Carr devoted an hour of his show tonight to our would-be erstwhile Senior Senator (he was in Vietnam, you know). The Thurston Howell III voice was used to great effect. In the absence of audio from that show, here's a brief clip of him sharing some Jawn anecdotes a couple of days before the election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1NdA-dg-IY

narciso

Crikey, they really aren't going to nominate him, that;s like picking Letelier, and we know how that turned our.

daddy

Good job MarkO.

I do hate Dick Vitale.

Captain Hate

Vitale will never change. The ACC is strange this year; Duke, UNC, NC State, Maryland and Florida State will all do fine but the rest of the conference is *really* bad. Case in point: Virginia lost to Biden's school tonight. At home. And Miami lost to Florida Gulf Coast.

MarkO

Duke played well, daddy. Even my own children call Dickie V a homer. Too much noise.

Danube of Thought on IPad

Dickie V has single-handedly accounted for my refusal to watch college hoops before the conference tournaments, and for my joy at each annual elimination of Duke.

narciso

I think this fits, what happened to account every vote


http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/157702/

bgates

American-mined coal, facing declining demand in its home market, is already heading to Europe

That can't be right. Coal is a red state product that turns barefoot illiterate inbred orphans into corporate profit and pollution, while Europe has learned to sustain itself on sustainability.

daddy

That's great isn't it bgates.

To save Gaia, we quit burning coal in American Coal plants so that it doesn't foul up the air in the Northern Hemisphere and contribute to Global Warming.

Instead we continue to mine it, transport it via fossil fueled trains to ports, transport it across the Atlantic via fossil fueled boats, then transport it via more fossil fueled vehicles to locations in Europe, where it gets burned in European Coal plants and the waste is expelled into the air of the Northern Hemisphere. That's certainly a sensible scheme.

narciso

Speaking of pointless exercises, bot the challenge just the holder of the office


http://www.ktva.com/home/top-stories/Senator-Begich-Targeted-as-Vulnerable-in-2014-179216011.html

daddy

Narciso,

Local Talk guy brought up this story on Begich today as the beginning of Begich's re-election campaign: New Bill To Create Incentives For In-State Natural Gas Delivery

He thought it was simply a way for Begich to get his name in the headlines via friendly media, and to sound as if he was seriously trying to accomplish something. It preceded the energy discussion I posted above where they went into particulars of how screwed we are by the Feds.

As for your link, Begich is a master at never answering a question definitively, but making you think he has answered it in your favor. He is a master politician in that way and therefore IMHO he will be very tough to beat in 2014. He doesn't do gaffes.

I like Mayor Dan Sullivan, but he says he doesn't want to run for the Senate. Governor Parnell is seen as having accomplished little. If he and the now Repub controlled Alaskan House and Senate can accomplish something energy wise on State lands and jump start the local economy, then I think Parnell will have a record he can run on, but as of today I don't see him ousting Begich because he Parnell is a much poorer politician than Begich. Joe Miller unfortunately is viewed as damaged goods, and Sarah won't run, so that's where we sit currently for defeating Begich in 2014.

daddy

Another reason why Shell, after 5 years and a couple Billion in expenditures, might just pack it in and call it quits in the Chukchi:

Nov 13, 2012--Federal report calls for more research on Arctic oil spills:

"A federal commission (in a report, issued Tuesday by the U.S. Arctic Research Commission) says more research is needed to prevent and clean up oil spills in the ice-covered waters surrounding Alaska and Canada...the commission is calling for a slew of new studies and policy changes."

"The report says oil spill experiments and field trials are needed in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration needs more money for Arctic spill research and federal regulators need more time or more staff to review permits."

Etc.


pagar

Be Alert, Be Very Alert! Some Americans may be saying bad things(telling the truth) about leader.

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/13640-people-targeted-for-anti-obama-speech#.UKK1EMn2vEo.twitter

If you're not a Obama regime supporter, your 1st Amendment rights have be terminated.

http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/11/the-first-amendment-only-applies-to-obama-supporters/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-first-amendment-only-applies-to-obama-supporters&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Mark Levin says it better:

ww.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-wfiscal-cliff-were-facing-the-collapse-of-our-society-and-republicans-need-to-wake-the-hell-up/

Bill in AZ sez it's time for Obama/Holder murder trial in Mexico

daddy: "Joe Miller unfortunately is viewed as damaged goods, and Sarah won't run, so that's where we sit currently for defeating Begich in 2014."

They have you! As I recall, you're already experienced at getting on a ballot.

Mark Folkestad

Bill, that's a great idea! Daddy is a world traveler, an international man of mystery, a fabulous raconteur. And his campaign slogan, if you know his surname, can be a well-known phrase, "in like _____". Just the votes from adoring barmaids would be enough to put him over the top.

NK

Good TomM topic choice. Debt implosion and North American-Russian energy production will be the news for the balance of our adult lives. The Gulf sheiks will have to sell to India and WestPac --rather than continental-- Asian economies. The indian navy will do a fine job keeping sea lanes open from the Gulf through the Indian Oean into the WestPac. This leaves the US Navy to be a mobile force free to confront Chinese expansionism -- we can have very good relations with Vietnam, S Korea and Japan. North America can thrive with 'cheap' electricity rates from ridiculous amounts of NatGas, which is not a worldwide commodity so price can be contained for the US/Canadia/Mexican industrial-office users-- capital investment in the US? Start with the electric grid. Old Europe? -- DOOOOOOMMMMMMM.

Jim Ryan

Anybody have the inside dirt on AEI and carbon tax? They keep denying they're in favor of it, in spite of their intense interest in it.

hrtshpdbox

So assuming Obama lies on the record about a lot of stuff at his presser today, and assuming those lies are revealed in short order, it's time to move for impeachment. And a march on Washington demanding a re-do election since the damning info about Benghazigate was withheld from the public by Obama/Biden during the last election. Sounds like a plan to me.

Jim Ryan

I think the most important thing we can do now is to drill as many of our friends and relatives under twenty years of age in Founding principles and Constitution. They will have to pick up the pieces.

Threadkiller

hrtshpdbox's is hung up on far fetched ideas again. Sad.

Maybe he should stick to Kennedy conspiracies.

Janet

When is the press conference today?

Janet

I found it...C-SPAN says 1:30

centralcal

Fox News is reporting that Petraeus will voluntarily testify before both houses of congress.

Threadkiller

" THE BIG LIST OF VOTE FRAUD REPORTS 108% of voting population endorses Obama World Net Daily (WND)

Barack Obama says he won the 2012 presidential election, Mitt Romney conceded and the Electoral College electors are scheduled to meet on Dec. 17 to cast the votes that officially will choose a name for the presidency.

But what really happened?

Here is the BIG LIST of reports that document voting irregularities and apparent fraud during the 2012 presidential tabulation..."

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports

Captain Hate

I found it...C-SPAN says 1:30

Assuming Tammy Bruce runs a simulcast ridicule-fest of it, over/under of when she shuts it off in disgust is 5 minutes.

Jim Ryan

That Levin link (audio) is quite good. Nice historical perspective (Constitutional Convention, George Mason, Gunning Bedford.)

Rob Crawford

Folks, there will be no lies at Obama's pressfellation. He will be asked questions like "wasn't the election awesome" and "how horrible are Republicans" and "how many skittles-pooping unicorns do you think Republicans will kill before they agree to take back the money rich people (except Democrat-voting ones) stole".

narciso

So Scott has become Otis, instead of the Lex Luthor, that we voted for, the carp sandwhich just gets bigger,

Janet

Yesterday on Drudge - "Hillary can't make House hearing on Benghazi; busy visiting friends, wine tasting in Australia..."

Today at Drudge - "SKEDADDLE: Panetta joins Hillary in Australia..."

Janet

Nothing will change until we get a decent press. We can whoop & holler & know truth on the internet...but until it crosses over into the mainstream, nothing will change.

hrtshpdbox

Threadkiller, if you don't fill me in on what Tippit was up to, who will??

hrtshpdbox

He will be asked questions like "wasn't the election awesome" and "how horrible are Republicans" ...

I'll feel cheated if we don't get a reprise of Baba Wawa's "If you could be any tree..." thing.

Jim Ryan

Rob, don't forget "Sir, can you think of an example of tea party wackiness worse than moving to impeach you over an ambassador's murder by a mob angry over a tea bagger's anti-Muslim movie?"

narciso

Well they don't want a dexent presidnet, they couldn't even tell what one was, they want a Commodus, a Catiline,

Sue

Janet,

Unless we get them talking about it on the morning shows, The View, The Daily Show, The Kardashians, the idiots will not know. They don't watch or read MSM anymore than they watch cable news.

Janet

My pet peeve is when the MFMer gives a 5 minute statement before they get to the question.

Threadkiller

Here is another thoughtful audio history lesson from Mark Levin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMGmukyJh3k

Sole allegiance? Levin is a loon.

Sue

Obama says that everything he wants to do was front and center in the election so the voters spoke and he has a mandate. I'm now hearing he is going to introduce stuff that he didn't run on, like he did with Obamacare. He ran against a mandate and then shoved it down our throat.

narciso

True, but then the campign idn't bush back enough, I guess ORCA swallowed all their notes

Sue

Well, a reason to make sure republicans keep the house in 2014? Nancy Pelosi is still the minority leader.

Janet

That's true, Sue @ 9:33.

narciso

I guess it's to discuss surrender terms, or maybe he'll just give back Alaska, that why yjr Huntress has got an outpost in Arizona now


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/putin-obama-plans-visit-russia_663287.html


Cecil Turner

The truly idiotic IEA report and the even more idiotic NYT coverage are both predicated upon increased use of solar and wind totems plus reducing gas usage by raising CAFE standards to the point where we'll all be riding mopeds.

Yep, and that's half of the strategic analysis. The projections are ridiculously optimistic, both in growth of demand and alternate sources (assuming fusion doesn't come on line fairly soon).

The other half is that the goal of US power projection is not primarily about keeping sea lanes open for access to raw materials and trade (though that's a strong number two). It's about control, and the obvious national security ramifications. Handing that responsibility over to our top competitor (as China is likely to remain for some time) is not only not a feature, it's a rather serious bug.

Buckeye

Obama said he wanted to raise rates on the top 2% which was good for ~ $800 billion over ten years. Now we hear he wants ~ 1.6 trillion in same period.

That sure wasn't front and center during the election.

narciso

"Pray I don't change the terms of the deal' would be his answer. in somewaya it'as as if we elected Debts in 1912 0r 1916,

narciso

And of course, ABC is touting a silly poll by the Kaiser people, who stand to benefit from
Obamacare, then again, they chose this fate one way or another.

Janet

Papa John's is being sued...but it appears Rahm Emanuel doesn't have to obey any laws.
Emanuel downplays eavesdrop act

"The city Law Department, in an email, said, “These incidents were mistakes that were acknowledged and addressed.”"

Can we all use that excuse? It was a mistake & I have addressed it.

Threadkiller

I am sure you will find another guy that wants to fill you in, hrtshpdbox.

Captain Hate

That sure wasn't front and center during the election.

Of course it wasn't. The JEF had nothing specific in that stupid pamphlet he released with his campaign "promises". He sounded like a fucking retard in his dipshit commercials where he said something idiotic about wanting the rich to pay "a little more". The pamphlet had more pictures of the simpleton than it did concrete platform items.

narciso

Einstein called, you know I meant that as a warning not an affrimative course of actionm

Janet

at Instapundit - "Plus: “Here’s a very simple question for the esteemed press corps: Why did you repeatedly lie that the terror attack in Benghazi was a protest against a video nobody ever saw and why is the maker of that clip in prison?” Yeah, like anyone will ask that question."

You know who needs to give a press conference & answer some questions? The press. They need to be in the dock.

matt

I believe it is time for the Congress to enact a law enabling a special force specifically to compel testimony of government officials. Find them and haul them up to Capitol Hill and sit their ass in a cell until they testify.

We have had an ever increasing imperial presidency for many years and Congress must take it's role back.

Obama with his czars and secret back door e mail accounts and refusal to make Cabinet Secretaries available has stepped well over the line.

Snatch Hillary off the plane as it lands, along with Panetta, and compel them with tarring & feathering if necessary.

Captain Hate

Dennis Miller has that journalist we can all trust, JAKE TAPPER, on during his second hour, doubtlessly to shill for his new book that was panned in the WSJ. Here's hoping Miller puts Tapper on the hot seat or he can pound salt too.

Kat

Janet,
If by " decent press" you mean reporting "news" even remotely related to truth, I am afraid you may have to wait for that revolution that daddy mentioned. There is no more valuable propagandist than who acts on his/ her own convictions and gains power in the bargain.
Besides, how safe it is to go against the regime? I am probably more paranoid than all of you put together, and to this day I wonder if Breitbart did not meet with an umbrella tip on that solitary evening walk the day he died.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

One in five patients in "persistent vegetative state" are aware, lay down new memories and communicate using brain activities.
Wonder if Terry Schiavo was one of the aware twenty percent when she was being talked about and starved to death?

DrJ

Pelosi to stay as minority leader.

Barack Obama

Janet:
Can we all use that excuse? It was a mistake & I have addressed it.

"But I willingly submit to being censured if you must."

hit and run

Whoopsie daisy

Captain Hate

Snatch Hillary off the plane as it lands, along with Panetta, and compel them with tarring & feathering if necessary.

Muffer may need some time to sober up so Leon should get the first round. She'll have pounded so many Fosters that she probably won't remember who Chris Stevens was.

narciso

Since vidoe, is so important to them, how about the feed from the DS Ops center, or that from the drone

hrtshpdbox

I am sure you will find another guy that wants to fill you in, hrtshpdbox.
Hey, check it out, TK - I was just making a joke yesterday, which I considered a friendly one, about Tippit. I'm not a conspiracist, nor do I think you're one; I enjoy your birther threads, and I wasn't poking fun at you.

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