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Thomas Collins

I am not surprised that the NY Times is not a big Booker promoter. If Booker knocks off Christie, Booker could pose a challenge for Billary in 2016. And one can be certain that Billary is the Times' choice in 2016.

NK

Pinch's NYT is truly and evil criminal enterprise. NJ Senator boffs anything that moves and has an illegal alien sex offender on the payroll-- yawn. The son of a bigshot Dem is videoed coaching vote fraud, and then slams a woman's head into a trash bin- yawn. Corey Booker can't single handledly end 70 years of Newark social and economic collapse-- THAT'S NEWS! The NYT is a twisted and sick culture.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Booker's problems are manifold and obvious;
He doesn't talk jive to black "folks".
His skin is too light.
His parents were successful and Christians.
He's neither a closeted nor an open Marxist.

He is however a tax and spend liberal. That he is merely lucid is all it takes to sound like Jean Baptiste Say in today's Democratic menagerie.

Melinda Romanoff

Ig-

No.

It's NEWARK! You couldn't possibly understand. (sniff)

Charlie (Colorado)

Don't forget that he spoke well of Romney.

rse

Well, we seem spread over several threads but I managed to tie Ayers, LDH, bo, and the Christina Figueres quote from Yale Environmental 360 to what teachers are now being forced to transition to in the K-12 classroom. Except it ties to a UNESCO report from the early 70s at the height of the Cold War for a future planned society created through education. Fostering an inner revolution in personality and attitudes.

http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/coercing-teachers-to-be-social-and-political-saboteurs-what-can-be-done/

I had never been able to locate the report until a few days ago and I had looked hard. I think it got released from the metaphorical vault to make it accessible to Statist meddlers everywhere.

MT-loved your CoR story. Peter Senge expressly says his Systems Thinking work for the classroom is based on Jay Forester's Systems Dynamics. Also the source of classroom modelling software now
through the Creative Learning Exchange. So the children get to model with the child-like assumptions.

Of course you and I know they are really trying to make cybernetic theory apply to people and societies.

matt

And RGIII is a fake negro, or N**ger, as Quentin Tarantino would say.

The Left disgusts me. They tolerate Tourette mouthed scum like Tarantino while they condemn Republicans for using "code" words. The hypocrisy is simply stunning.

They should be horsewhipped, very frankly. The white ones only, of course. Otherwise it would be racist.

centralcal

Josh Krulewitz ‏@jksports

Update: "Following yesterday’s comments, Rob Parker has been suspended until further notice. We are conducting a full review."

Rob Crawford

I just noticed something -- likely because I'm slow -- the Union Thug who punched Crowder? His t-shirt features a fist, viewed front-on as if it's being thrown in a punch.

What kind of idiot wears a shirt like that and then starts a fight? In front of a forest of cameras?

Mark Folkestad

The Connecticut school shooting smells like a domestic dispute taken to the workplace. Thank God that no kids were harmed. I mentioned in an earlier thread that the mall shooting out near Portland hit home with me. My estranged girlfriend's former brother-in-law was the male shooting victim. A far nicer man than Susan's ex. Very sad.

Melinda Romanoff

Mark-

News is still pending. Fair warning. It's a horrific tragedy unfolding.

Melinda Romanoff

In lighter news, go distract yourself with this act of ridiculous awesomeness. Narciso, you'll love this one.

NK

MelR-- from your link to soot:
It also said the reduction in health bills from the standard would far outweigh the costs to industry.

'costs to the electric utility industry'-- HMM... who would that be? why that would be households and business consumers. Congrats california arizona and michigan electricity users, your rates are going up!

Melinda Romanoff

You're missing 47 other names from that list.

Have Blue

About the shooting in Newtown, I know some of the regulars here are from that general area of Connecticut. The school is about four and a half miles as the crow flies from my youngest brothers house, but both of his kids attend other schools.

Prayers for all, and hope no one here is personally affected.

Melinda Romanoff

OK, It's way worse than I heard in Newtown.

Melinda Romanoff

12 dead, including kids. Sucks.

Mark Folkestad

When the EPA can rule that rainwater is a pollutant, no one and nothing is safe. Congratulations, America, for crowning Emperor Barry I. Romney would have reined in the EPA.

Mel, early accounts of the school shooting are contradictory and hazy, but I still think that the violence was not directed toward the pupils. It might be a hot-headed parent upset about some issue. When I was in junior high, a father came to my classroom and called the teacher out. The teacher got the better of the fist fight, by far. The father was angered by the teacher calling his kid a liar, after the kid brought in the seventh excuse slip of the year that involved the funeral of a grandparent. He might have figured an extra grandparent with a re-marriage, but three extras? And all dying within months of each other?

Mark Folkestad

Mel, that is horrible news. It must be a crazed gunman situation. I'll be praying for the families.

Porchlight

Newtown is pretty bad although I think, hope, pray, only injuries so far except the perp who is dead.

I grew up in the town next door, Monroe. Newtown were our big football rivals. My Monroe friend and neighbor since third grade lives there, and her children attend the school. They are okay, per her Facebook update. Thank God.

Porchlight

Oh, God. I didn't hear the update. Oh, this is so awful.

Melinda Romanoff

May they rest in peace.

Link.

Mark Folkestad

From Mel's BBC link, which I find confusing: "Citing local and state officials, ABC News said at least 12 people had been killed at Sandy Hook School in Newtown.

Other reports put the number of dead at three, with the gunman deaths at three, with at least three people in hospital."

Mark Folkestad

Fox just reported at least five children are dead. Gunman drove there from New Jersey.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Now MSN says 27 dead.

Rob Crawford

Early reports are always confused.

At least you're not citing anonymous tweets.

Melinda Romanoff

Rob-

That's why I try to sit on news 'til it's confirmed by another reputable source. Unless it's Allred, which I run with (Admitting earlier stupidity).

Clarice

report is that the shooter is the father of one of the children. The horror.

Melinda Romanoff

Story still shifting.

I'm stopping now.

NK

newtown nightmare.. drove from NJ?

Rob Crawford

And keep in mind, folks, all the WRONG stories we're hearing about this are coming from the trained professionals in journalism!

Why they can't just say "we don't know, and we're waiting for information" is a mystery. In any other profession, "I don't know" is a sign of maturity.

Mark Folkestad

Well, law enforcement has confirmed at least 26 deaths. Horrid.

Jane:  Mock the Media

18 kids 8 adults dead so far. Who the hell shoots up a kindergarten the week before Christmas?

Clarice

How awful. I'm sitting here crying for all those parents.

marlene

Oh,how horrible. Prayers for the families and community. This is shaping up to be a somber Christmas.We've expressed sympathy to two different families this week who have lost loved ones due to suicide. Very difficult to process these events.

Jack is Back

Dunblane Redux.

Let us pray that we don't over-react like the Brits did.

This is a tragedy but you can bet your last dollar that the left will use every bit of it to make it the most political folly of all time. The Cliff has competition.

Clarice

Imagine coming home from the morgue to a house trimmed for the holiday and no child to enjoy it.

henry

Rob, the "blue fist" on a red T-shirt was used extensively in the Madison WI protests. It is a sign of union solidarity (seriously!), and the shirts were worn by all Dens in the WI legislature as they tried to stop Walker's reforms from passing.

Jack is Back

This is what I mean: From Carney

Just imagine the mind of Carney that he can be thinking about "policy implications" at a time like this. These people are as sick as the guy with the gun.

Mark Folkestad

My ex and I lost two babies to early miscarriage. I've desperately wanted kids. The idea that monsters kill children is beyond my comprehension.

Jack is Back

Sorry about the Non-Link at 1:09. But this is what Carney says in the Rooters report:

"Carney called the event "tragic" and said there would be time later for a discussion of policy implications."

Porchlight

Did someone ask Carney if there would be policy implications? Or did he just insert that part?

GMax

That fist on the t shirt has been a symbol used by the UAW since before I was a member briefly. You can start looking for the guy in the management of the UAW, you almost surely will find him there.

Jane:  Mock the Media

Reuters is reporting that an entire kindergarten class is unaccounted for - which means they are all dead. 100 shots fired.

Jack is Back

Porch,

Someone asked if Obama was still committed to banning assault weapons and that was how Carney answered. I understand from Fox that it wasn't an assault weapon but rather a 9mm Glock. The guy was evidently dressed in full tactical gear.

Porchlight

JiB,

Thanks. Carney shouldn't have added that second part, then. Just that we are praying for everyone involved, full stop, next question.

NK

'I understand from Fox that it wasn't an assault weapon but rather a 9mm Glock. The guy was evidently dressed in full tactical gear.' .....

madness

Clarice

Oh, Jane.. This is really an unbearable event......

Jane:  Mock the Media

2nd shooter taken into custody. Sheeter may be a parent of one of the kids.

Now a report of 4 weapons used.

Jane:  Mock the Media

Shooter not "sheeter". I am using all restraint possible to not speculate that he is a union member.

Jane:  Mock the Media

Shooter 20 year old man with ties to the school

Porchlight

How can there be a second shooter unless someone was trying to take this guy down? This sounds like classic crazy lone gunman situation.

If the parent story is true I wonder if there was a custody battle or something.

I shouldn't speculate but it helps me keep my mind off those poor kids in the classroom and what they must have endured at the end.

MarkO

Words fail.

Clarice

Maybe two crazy gunmen,,Kindergartners.My God!

Jane:  Mock the Media

The "second shooter" may have just been the driver. And I can't imagine a 20 year old is a parent. I dunno.

I'm just posting the headlines from Fox. So don't take anything to the bank.

marlene

Yes Jane,I agree.A 20 year old is a parent? Strange.

Mark Folkestad

Not much in the first briefing. I could imagine the second person giving a buddy a ride, except for the battle gear. The handguns might not have been visible to the second guy, but my alarm bells would have gone off with the gear.

Chubby

I just heard there were two killers, one dead, the other in custody

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--The handguns might not have been visible to the second guy, but my alarm bells would have gone off with the gear.--

One story has him with a .223 rifle.
Every service apparently goes with any unsubstantiated thing they find from any source.
Pointless to do anything but wait.

Danube of Thought on IPad

Heartbraking image, Clarice.

Imagine how many lives have been absolutely destroyed.

Mark Folkestad

They are "questioning" the second person, who one witness said had come out of the woods screaming that he didn't do it. The shooter had a "connection" to the school. But, as Marlene suggested, someone only twenty wouldn't have likely been the parent of even a kindergarten student. And what sort of alleged trauma in the shooter's childhood experience at the school, if that is his connection to it, could possibly have festered so much over so many years? Apparently an entire kindergarten class is "missing", so it would seem that the shooter entered a classroom and killed everyone in it.

Clarice

Yes, Iggy.

The poor town, those poor families, those poor emergency workers who had to view that horror.

rse

I was in carpool line picking up the Diva from the first day of high school final exams and it was just two at that point and they were speculating on the news about a fight with the principal. Diva was getting in the car when report changed to 27 with kids involved.

Right now I am just reading although I have taken a look at the district's policies since I got home. Hopefully what I have downloaded will not turn out to be an issue.

Clarice-my eldest is out of the country. When we did not hear from him on a holiday or his birthday I could not bear to decorate the tree. Heard from him most recently yesterday.

It's always tragic but when a joyous time of year is forever tainted for families.

Mark Folkestad

The only solid mention of guns involves a pair of semi-automatic pistols. A Glock and a SIG-Sauer. There seem to have been a hundred shots. I'm sure that it will take a long time for the forensic work to be done, and the interviews and searches to be completed. Yes, Iggy, we will have to wait, but the frantic need to understand this event can't be suppressed.

matt

What goes through the mind of such a person?

Kindergartners; the most vulnerable, trusting people on earth. The only thing they were thinking of was Hannukah and Christmas and pageants and cookies and a doll or a truck.

True evil does exist and we are seeing its exposition accelerate every day. Satan does exist and is all around us. This isn't the banality of evil, but its triumph.

Lust, Greed, Envy, Pride, Gluttony, Sloth, and Wrath. Am I missing anything in what we are seeing on a daily basis? There is madness abroad as well. In the UK, the most popular "religion" seems to be Star Wars.

I don't know the reasons for this horrible crime, but I know the evil of it. I'm sure it was a "gun free zone".

But what evil allows for us to even contemplate gun free zones? Or wall in schools like fortresses? Where the hell have we gone wrong so badly?

Clarice

Yes, DoT, and it will hit them all again every single Christmas. I'm not a very emotional person but I cannot stop crying today . The survivors' pain keeps flooding my thoughts.

Melinda Romanoff on Kindle

Mark-

Again, wait it out, please.

NK

rse@157-- please don't. honestly, the last thing anyone needs right now is hearing about policy implications. children have been mass murdered by a madman, everybody should just make sure to tell their kids they love them, and say a prayer for the dead and the survivors... especially the survivors.

Mark Folkestad

Mel, I'm not sure how I've stepped on your toes so badly, but, okay, I'll shut my mouth (restrain my fingers on the keyboard, actually).

centralcal

I am at work, watching this live stream over the net - I am with Clarice. Very hard to keep emotions in check here at the office.

Thank you, too, Mel.

Looks like another victim was found at a home "connected" to the shooter - perhaps his mother?

NJ Jan

I am trying to keep from crying. Clarice, like you, I am not an emotional person but this is just so horrific -- for those poor little children and their families. Prayers for all of them and damnation for the shooter

Melinda Romanoff on Kindle

Reuters stream posting lice of parents' reactions as they are told. Personally feel like breaking a camera. Steam is building.

NK

the media.... they are slags and sadists

Mark Folkestad

Mel, I still don't understand what I did wrong. But I've been on edge since the Clackamas Mall shooting in Oregon a few days ago. As I've mentioned at JOM, Susan's former brother-in-law, a wonderful guy, was one of the two victims.

rse

NK-I understand that but I also know that the school district website will get taken down and "fixed" at some point today.

Not because it is related but because it is absurd under the circumstances to be trumpeting certain things. I look for patterns before they can be erased. Did that already.

Trust me it was hard to look at and read what they were trumpeting given this tragedy.

Melinda Romanoff on Kindle

(Lice =pics.

Mark- It's the random scatter from different sources when it's quite apparent that the LEOs are still trying to bring the picture into focus. Press filling dead air doesn't help, let alone passing it on. The facts will present themselves in due time.

That's what was hugging me.

DebinNC

Statistically, I bet school is the safest place for a child to be. The media is disgusting, and even Wolf is irritating me with his repeated noting how bizarre it is that this happened "near Danbury, CT", when all the mass shooters I can think of, other than the DC snipers, have been white, upper middle class screwups.

rse

NK-how close is that to where you live?

Can you tell us anything about the area?

Melinda Romanoff on Kindle

Hugging=bugging

Oh how I love this autocorrect feature.

rse

Deb-Newtown is a separate school district from the county, Fairfield, where it is located.

Melinda Romanoff on Kindle

rse-

Mixed income. Rural to very private, wealthy individual "farms". I have very good friends who live there and have visited them often. Mature community, not too prone to new growth.

Mark Folkestad

Mel, it sure didn't SOUND like you were being hugged. Sorry I was being so frigging obnoxious about things.

Melinda Romanoff on Kindle

There is a business community, just not a destination.

Except for Mosaic Records, which is based there.

Getting uglier, it seems.

rse

Mel-We flew over CT several years ago on our way to Portland, ME and it was stunning to see from about 8000 feet with quaint on the right and industrial on the left.

I think I will never forget those words I heard before they changed the story that "we are waiting for word that all the parents have picked up their children."

Manuel Transmission

I empathize with everyone here crying for the victims and their families, but you can be assured that the commie bastards in the WH WILL be using this to their maximum benefit. The SunKing has no more elections to worry about.

Jane:  Mock the Media

Apparently the guy killed his mother before he killed the kids. They found her at her home. He lives out of state.

Jane:  Mock the Media

Now saying the shooter may be the son of the teacher - and had different ties to the woman. He lives in Hobokan.

Melinda Romanoff on Kindle

I'm outfall here. This is awful.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

According to Trace Gallagher at Fox News, the shooter was Ryan Lanza, a 24 year old former resident of Newtown who more recently lived in NJ. The police have gone to his former residence and found a body which is suspected to be the perp's mother.

The school has a security system with that required the shooter to be buzzed in by a school employee who could see him via a camera. From this, it has been deduced that the shooter had some connection with the school. Since it has now been ascertained he is 24, it is conceivable that he had a child in Kindergarten at that school.

Another report that Fox said it could not confirm was that the kindergarten teacher was the shooter's mother. That would leave the body found in his former residence unidentified.

Jack is Back

Sitting in car-rider line at school listening to local Jax station that has pre-empted Rush for Megyn Kelly and FNC. You can hear the full sorrow in her voice. This is so tragic and hits home to me too close. It will change school security the way we know it.

Melinda Romanoff on Kindle

Out of.

Reuters feed is making me ill.

BB Key

Has a news conference been scheduled ?

Enlightened

This is just breathtakingly sad. These children are/were still babies with a lifetime ahead of them, now true evil has touched them.

So now the USA has their Andres Breivik, except this one is a M-F'n coward and killed himself(I'm assuming)

And in other news a madman in China has slashed 22 children at a school with a knife on Friday.

I will never understand the evil in some people. I just feel like crying. I am alternating between pure hatred and the need to just rip that killer into to tiny pieces and such aching sadness for the families and surviving kids, at traditionally the happiest time of year.


Just truly unbelievable.


Porchlight

rse,

I grew up in Monroe, the town next door. Mostly middle class/fairly well-to-do on the whole, wealthier now than when I lived there.

My FB feed is very odd today, since so many of my school friends still live in the area. One is in Newtown and a parent of two children at that very school (who are thankfully okay). Her first post this morning, before this all happened, was a photo of the school's 4th grade choir.

I have a daughter in kindergarten in a school about the same size. I just can't imagine how a school can even survive this, let alone heal.

marlene

rse...my s-i-l the middle school teacher has convinced me that the teachers are helpless.Hostile parents with out of control kids.Her school system has a policy of "no restraint"so a student can be totally out of control,trashing the classroom,verbally or physically assaulting another student or a teacher.The student can't be restrained.
She had to apologize to a student and his mother because she told him to go the drugstore and get a notebook and pens when he came to class unprepared.He was insulted by her reference to a drugstore,because he (surprise) comes to school stoned,which mommy denied.

jimmyk

Just waking up Down Under to this awful news. All those devastated families, it's unimaginable.

Jane:  Mock the Media

There are no kids left and the shooter is dead. Personally I want to strangle Keith Abelow - or at least make him go lie down on his own couch.

Ryan Lansa also killed his father in NJ.

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