While At The Gym...

While pretending to abide by my New Year's resolution at the gym I noticed a baffling story about... well, the sound was turned down, but what I gleaned is that Lance Armstrong was cheating with Manto Te'o's girlfriend. Or something...

Can anyone fill me in?

Comments

[jimmyk]

Forget the gym, was there a resolution about cutting back on the caffeine? That's four posts today, after four yesterday, and the day is young. TM is on fire!

[Peter]

glad you are keeping up with your resolutions, Tom. Here is everything you need to know about Lance Armstrong. LUN

[Peter]

Resolutions are resolutions. Caffeine is life.

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"Te'o-ing" = posting a picture of yourself and your imaginary girlfriend on Facebook.

[NK]

Funny that you mention this TomM.... I have not read the details about the Manto Te'o fabricated girlfriend story, but it got me to thinking. How does any of us know whether JOM is a "real" conglomoration of commenter contributors made up of real life people, as opposed to JOM really some kind of Potemkin Village of ficticious commenters fabricated by Tom Maguire? OK I know I'M real (I think), I've met Jackis Back and JimmyK (I think), but what about everybody else? And what about TomM... what if you're some kind of fabrication of a LeftWing data miner grabbing valuable RightWinger cabal info? It's all very confusing.

[narciso]

Now you're not going all sylvia on us, are you,
NK?

[jimmyk]

Today's NYT has a story about Armstrong and the Andreu family, whose lives he all but ruined after they claimed he'd been doping. He met with them privately, but won't own up to what he did to them and apologize in public.

Re Peter's link, I don't fault the media for not tracking down info about celebrities and athletes, but the lack of interest in the facts about govt figures with a D after their name is shameful.

[NK]

"Now you're not going all sylvia on us, are you.." well....it's worth a thought anyway...

[NK]

JimmyK-- Armstrong will be ruined by this, and rightfully so. Now that he done his "Limited hang out" and partially admitted the truth, all of the people he victimized over decades will get a forum to get the whole truth out. US Doping Agency staffers will leak to the media what they learned interviewing dozens of witnesses, Armstrong wasn't just a cheat he was a dope ringleader who pushed teammates into using to help HIM win. To win he needed a stronger team, one of the ways he did that was to force junior team members to juice HIS way.Now that he has 'confessed' and he's running out of money, the witnesses will come forward because they will be believed and he can't hurt them anymore. I don't like to see anyone who accomplished so much ruined, but in his case, it's deserved.

[Dave (in MA)]

Breaking News

[hit and run]

narciso:
Now you're not going all sylvia on us, are you,

I'm just saying...

Troll, when you get your automated trollatrons to come out in force like that, professing fake outrage, you give up a bunch of perfectly good fake IDs. I would estimate a good 1/3 to 1/2 of the "people" on here are the Troll. The rest of the posters here who are actually real people, either don't care about this juvenile business or are clueless and needy enough to fall for it, even with all the hints and proof that abound.
So there's no point in me sounding the alarm and pointing out the obvious. You all have to figure it out for yourselves.

Posted by: sylvia | December 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM

[NK]

Hit-- that is hysterical. wait... how do I know you're real, and that Sylvia wasn't right all along? Riddle me that! (and don't give us some link to an InstaComment-- how do we know Reynolds is real!)

[hit and run]

In other cyclist news, word on the street is that Hot Chick on a Bike also rose to stardom based on artificial enhancement.

[Dave (in MA)]

Was she the "cybot trolls" nut?

[hit and run]

NK:
how do I know you're real, and that Sylvia wasn't right all along?

Think about it, how many times have I actually denied my dear friend sylvia's claim?

[NK]

... well there ya go... we're on to something here. Maybe we're all being Manto Te'oed.. or.. something...

[Jane on Ipad]

Dave,

Your link went to google for me,.

Done with 7 depos in 5 days and they went better than anyone could have dreamed. I'm a veery happy camper.

[HCOAB]

--In other cyclist news, word on the street is that Hot Chick on a Bike also rose to stardom based on artificial enhancement.

Posted by: hit and run--

I'm gonna sue your ass off you fat, lyin, POS bitch.
Oh, did I say fat? Sorry.

[Dave (in MA)]

Jane, that's where it was supposed to go, to the hot news topic of the day: The first lady has bangs.

[Gus]

We are all SYLVIA. O-rama is f@#$ing us all "compositely".

[Jane on Ipad]

Oh gawd Dave.

[NK]

Gus@2:23 gets the final word;

Question for Ig/Henry et al: link to an article below, Richmond Va Dem brandishes AK-47 in Legislature Chamber, says it is lawful to carry that weapon in public in Va. Is that true? is that true if that is an authentic AK-47 with Full Auto fire capability? http://washingtonexaminer.com/virginia-lawmakers-ak-47-sparks-gun-debate-on-house-floor/article/2518986#.UPmCMUbCz8A

[sbw]

NK, I'm real. Take my word for it.

[NK]

sbw@2:29-- heh

[matt]

There's a street corner in Downtown LA where you can write a name down and get a California Driver's License, SS Card, and all sorts of other wonderful forms of identification for probably $25 a pop.

Not sure if I would run them through a computer, but I have always coveted the name Inigo Montoya.

[HCOAB]

NK,
In most states open carry of an unloaded weapon is legal.
It is almost undoubtedly only a semi auto version of the AK.
It would presumably be legal to carry an unloaded legally owned NFA weapon in an open carry state.

To repeat, no legally owned NFA weapon [machine guns, silenced firearms, etc] has EVER been used in the commission of a crime in the USA.

[henry]

NK, I don't know VA law. That gun is probably an SK (semi-automatic variant of an AK), which would be fine here in WI (we have constitutional open carry). Fully automatic weapons require a federal license to own, I don't know what restrictions there are on carrying one. Waving any weapon about with your finger on the trigger will get you in trouble with the law -- that is brandishing a weapon and a dangerous action.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

NK,
I have acted as a consultant on HCOAB's campaign regarding gun laws so you can generally trust what she has to say. :)

[NK]

HCOAB/Henry-- you guys are far more informative and precise than the WashTimes story. Now... as to whether you are real or merely fictious fabrications of TomM... that I can't say.. but you're very well-informed and helpful.

[henry]

NK, I think HCOAB is real... Iggy is too good to be true.

[NK]

Unloaded firearm = "lawful in most states". Apparently, not so in Ct. In my little town, the political types decided not to pay a bounty for firearms surrendered to the police. Instead, they continued an existing amnesty program for surrendering weapons to the police -- BUT THEY ADDED-- if you don't have a carry permit, you must invite the police to your home to recover HANDGUNS, because the amnesty doesn't extend to public carry to the police station. Invite to police to your house to surrender a firearm... no questions asked. Hmmm... what could possibly go wrong?

[Rob Crawford]

To repeat, no legally owned NFA weapon [machine guns, silenced firearms, etc] has EVER been used in the commission of a crime in the USA.

At least, one in private hands. There was a Dayton police officer who used his department-issued rifle to kill an informant.

Add that to the performance of the NYC cops in the shooting last summer that ended with 7 completely innocent bystanders shot because "fire discipline" is something they file a union grievance over, and it seems to me that the gun grabbers should be going after the cops' guns.

[Beasts of England]

Well, I have an imaginary girlfriend. Does that make me a Heisman finalist?

I survived testicular cancer, as well. So, can I hang my Downtown Athletic Club invite next to my seven now-relinquished Tour de France medals?

[Beasts of England]

Uh, do they receive a medal, or just a jersey or a funny hat?

[Rob Crawford]

BofE -- problem is, based on the second situation, your imaginary girlfriend has to be Sheryl Crow.

[NK]

In June, 2005 while she was Armstrong's pal, Sheryl Crow was the entertainment at the pre-opening of the Bloomberg News building on Madison Avenue in Manhattan. About 400-500 guests. She sang and played guitar for almost 3 hours; she's a really good guitarist-- especially acoustic. Great show for such a small crowd-- mayor Mikey must have written a huge check. BTW-- she is really cute.

[NK]

....QED... sheryl crow IS real...

[daddy]

So from Biden we get this: We need more gun laws because we don’t have time to enforce the ones we have

From Thomas Jefferson we get this: That Government is best which governs least.

And from an NRO story we get this:

by most estimates, there are at least 4,000 separate criminal laws at the federal level, with another 10,000 to 300,000 regulations that can be enforced criminally. Just this year 400 new federal laws took effect, as did 29,000 new state laws.

Looks like Joe Biden's vision of America is beating the heck out Tom Jefferson's vision.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--At least, one in private hands. There was a Dayton police officer who used his department-issued rifle to kill an informant.--

I stand corrected.
In the 79 years since it was passed there have been two violent crimes committed with NFA weapons, one by a cop one by a private citizen.
There have been fewer than ten crimes in toto including paperwork violations.
I personally make a bit of a distinction between publicly owned NFA weapons like the Dayton cop used and privately owned ones.

[Beasts of England]

Sheryl is real, indeed. I have met the lovely and talented lady, but am not dating her - either in reality or otherwise.

After all, if Clapton says she's too wild, I probably don't stand a chance of keeping up with her!

[daddy]

I don't know why but for whatever reason I am completely uninterested in Lance Armstrong, except that now I hate his guts for resurrecting Oprah.

[Janet]

Yeah...what has Sheryl 'one square' Crow had to say about Lance. Did she know he was doping?

[NK]

Crow-Armstrong? I doubt she has anything good to say about Mr. Armstrong, she was diagnosed with Stage 2 Breast cancer, underwent surgery and radiation, then he dumped her. He's not a good man.

[Thomas Collins]

Give Te'o a break. How many of the guys here haven't either exaggerated or minimized (when the lady appeared ready to put the kitchen knife to effective sword use) exploits of a carnal nature?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

I must confess I find Katherine Webb more appealing than Sheryl Crow but neither as appealing as HCOAB.

[Beasts of England]

Janet@3:29 - Thanks for reminding me of another reason I'm not dating Ms. Crow - she's way too liberal! ;-)

[fdcol63]

Will my wife dump me if she finds out about my fake mistress? LOL

[NK]

TeamDem Media in action-- PoliFact's "Lie of the Year"attacking Romney-- IS TRUE. Media lies for the Dems...shocking: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/whoops-politifacts-lie-year-turns-out-be-true_696223.html?page=2

[NK]

In other automotive new Turbo Timmie lucks out-- the current strong stock market allows him to sell out the Treasury's position in GM stock for ONLY..ONLY.. a 12 Billion Dollar loss. GM cronyism a results in a 12B loss...

[Beasts of England]

HCOAB?

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Hot Chick on a Bike. My 2012 write in presidential candidate;

[centralcal]

At work and unable to keep up on the thread, has Henry mentioned this good news?

Brian Schimming ‏@BrianSchimming

Appeals Ct reverses fed judge, upholds @ScottKWalker's collective bargaining law in entirety http://bit.ly/106BLxq #wiright #tcot #wigop

[hit and run]

fdcol63:
Will my wife dump me if she finds out about my fake mistress? LOL

Not if she were mrs hit and run, who encourages just such a thing.

True email exchange...

From: [mrs hit and run]
To: [hit and run]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Have you ever seen a photo of Clarice?

i'm in love. she is adorable. she can be the other woman. you have great taste. Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4G LTE

-----Original Message-----
From: [hit and run]
Sent: 7/20/2012 5:17:36 PM
To: [mrs hit and run]
Subject: Have you ever seen a photo of Clarice?

Fun article from her recent trip to France...

[Link]

[Cecil Turner]

Give Te'o a break. How many of the guys here haven't either exaggerated or minimized . . .

Heh. Fair enough.

Haven't really been following this (can't work up the interest), but I take it the gist is he made up an imaginary girlfriend who died story to garner some sympathy buzz in advance of the Heisman voting. Can someone tell me if this is pretty close to the mark? (And if I should care.)

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Cecil,
It's unclear at this point if he was involved in the fake girlfriend thing or if he was pranked.

[Beasts of England]

Bravo, Ig - my new favorite acronymn!

[Captain Hate]

Scott Walker is that rare Republican who has yet to disappoint me.

[Jack is Back]

The JOM crew:)

[clarice feldman]

Hit!! I must say that TM was the first I can recall who never dfell for Lance's cock and bull denial and I did fall for it utterly. Score one for TM. I, OTOH, never thought Rove would be indicted..so we're even.

[Jack is Back]

It looks like it started as a hoax by some guy and two girls but T'eo found out about it in early Decemeber but decided to keep the hoax alive because of the Heisman and the BCS - didn't want to affect either event. At least that is what Lance Armstrong told me at the blood bank.

[Captain Hate]

I must admit I was duped by Armstrong but am somewhat relieved that I now don't have to pretend that I have any interest whatsoever in bicycle racing or the dopers that are still participating.

[Jane on Ipad]

Hold on Clarice. I'm pretty sure it hasn't been 24 business hours.

[NK]

JiB@4:25-- EXACTLY what I (and Sylvia) have been saying!

[Dave (in MA)]

Crow-Armstrong? I doubt she has anything good to say about Mr. Armstrong, she was diagnosed with Stage 2 Breast cancer, underwent surgery and radiation, then he dumped her. He's not a good man.

She wasn't exactly kind to the musicians who were the brains behind her debut album a decade earlier, especially her boyfriend at the time who ended up doing the David Carradine thing shortly thereafter.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Bad, bad news.
I finally figured out who HCOAB is.
Natalia Bush [no jokes about the last name please].
Six foot two. That's good.
Born in the Canary Islands. Very bad.
TK is gonna be all over this.

[NK]

Why did Armstrong believe he could lie with impunity for years? (make no mistake, these were deliberate well planned lies) Who nailed Armstrong? something called the US Doping Agency, which tests US olympians-- Armstrong was on the 2000 Olympic Team. Armstrong wasn't nailed back when he was competing by the worldwide cycling organization (International Cycling Union), the World Anti-Doping, the IOC, the Tour de France none of those Euro organizations. the Euros were more than happy to shut their eyes to Lance's (and everybody's doping in the 90s-2000s) because he made their pie bigger by bringing in US bucks to cycling. Armstrong just couldn't know that US Doping regulators would take their job seriously in the future. Cycling and Euro dope testing in general is hopelessly corrupt-- they pass all these fancy rules, then simply ignore them. BTW-- I have no doubt the Brits who dominated cycling last year (London Olympic year, BTW) cheated like hell, and eventually, testing will catch up them and they'll all be stripped, of their titles, Tour de France, Olympics, -- the lot.

[Jack is Back]

I am no Lance Armstrong fan but I once was because I believed him and one of his best high school friend's father is my neighbor and he swore by him. But he got sucked into the big time professional bike racing PED use. They all did it and that is how he reconciled he wasn't cheating because he was only keeping up. BS of course but that is how these guys think.

So, we are crucifying Armstrong but at the same time we are voting on Bonds, McGwire, Clemens and Sosa and Palmeiro for the HoF. Why? Why are these guys even being considered? If Armstrong is now the new bar how do these guys get to limbo underneath without even bending?

[fdcol63]

hit and run,

Awesome! My fake mistress is a rich, beautiful nymphomaniac who's a licensed massage therapist .. and her father owns a combination liquor store / gun shop / auto & boat dealership. LOL

[NK]

DaveinMa-- but she's so cute...

[Thomas Collins]

I'll bring you up to date, CT. Baseball writers refused to vote Barry Bonds into the Hall of Fame because he lied about taking Viagra to enhance his performance at those Zumba dance classes in Maine. After being arrested, the Zumba dance instructor turned her life around by becoming Manto T'eo's online girlfriend. She became seriously ill when a blood transfusion from Lance Armstrong went awry. She needed the transfusion because she wanted to best Ignatz's bike lady in a one on one race at the Playboy Mansion that was held as part of the festivities surrounding Hef's wedding to Crystal Harris.

I think that about covers it.

[Captain Hate]

So, we are crucifying Armstrong but at the same time we are voting on Bonds, McGwire, Clemens and Sosa and Palmeiro for the HoF. Why?

I thought it was pretty significant that the HOF voted not to induct any of the regular players this year.

[NK]

Chicago figures it out-- 600 murders/year? municipal bankuptcy? BAN HIGH CAFFEINE DRINKS. Utopia comes to ChiTown: http://news.msn.com/science-technology/will-chicago-ban-energy-drinks

[Thomas Collins]

Oh, and one more thing. Hoping to accelerate her obtaining Hef's fortune, Crystal Harris has bought Hef gift certificates for hundreds of lap dances with that El Paso stripper who was the subject of a TM thread a short time ago.

[narciso]

And this is the larger point, it's a dissappointment, that yet another one of the sports pantheon is a fraud, yet the fact that he went to Oprah, for a modern version of an 'indulgence' is more annoying,

[henry]

cc: thanks for the 4:00 link. I hadn't heard about that yet. Now if they will just follow through on voter ID...

[Mark Folkestad]

Iggy, finding the identity of the girl on the bike was a lousy job, but someone had to do it. You must have hated every minute of the research. Poor fellow. I noticed that she is on Facebook. Someone should inform ChaCo. I'm going to have to study this matter very closely.

Lance Armstrong and the whole competitive biking thing? A pox on all their houses.

[Gus]

Obama went on OKrah, so did Tom Cruz, maybe John Travolta will be next weeks FRAUD.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--Iggy, finding the identity of the girl on the bike was a lousy job, but someone had to do it.--

It was actually inadvertent. I was looking for the proper size to fit JOM and one of the pics had her name in the URL at the bottom.

--Obama went on OKrah, so did Tom Cruz, maybe John Travolta will be next weeks FRAUD.--

I know this is setting the bar pretty low but I do give Lance props for not bouncing on and off of Oprah's couch like a methed-out spider monkey, ala Tom Cruz.

[Beasts of England]

Speaking of sports frauds - the former Mrs. Woods is considering a reconciliation with El Tigre. That is, if he profers a re-nup (?) which includes a $350M anti-cheating proviso.

I hope Elin doesn't know the former Mrs. Beasts...

[daddy]

Jane, that's where it was supposed to go, to the hot news topic of the day: The first lady has bangs.

Well of course she has bangs. Haven't you guys been following the news? 'FLOTUS you inspired us!': Kelly Ripa honors Michelle Obama's new haircut by wearing fake bangs

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Can't say I blame her.
He's lucky she's not asking for the Bobbitt clause.

[NK]

The Financial Times dripping with contempt of Bibi-- screw 'em --he'll win, and probaly have better control of the coalition gov't then now. Kadafy gone, Mubarrak gone, Assad gone sooner than later, Bibi still there; what will the Mullahs do: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/71832200-6176-11e2-957e-00144feab49a.html#axzz2IMy8uoDK

[Jack is Back]

iggy,

Different couch: Hard leather surface, titanium frame, etc.

[Beasts of England]

Ig@5:33 - I know the feeling...

[Jack is Back]

Can someone explain how 83% of the public say we have a huge spending problem but then admit that 47% of the public arre dependent on that spending?

[Extraneus]

Because the spending that they get isn't a problem?

[Extraneus]

Because they know that the spending they get is part of the problem?

[Danube of Thought iPad]

JiB, they deplore the reckless part of the spending, i.e., the part thatgoes to other people.

[matt]

some thoughts on the conflict in Mali. The problem isn't just Mali. LUN

[boatbuilder]

Hit, TC--It appears that Jane brought a camera to our meet-up last year and sent the results to JiB. (4:25)

[narciso]

This story does get stranger, if this was at all possible,

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/meet_dame_in_grid_fauxmance_eouFDP9Ayr5kqGZ2Lyz91K

[Jane on Ipad]

I've been saving that one boatbuilder.

[boatbuilder]

At least nobody thinks we're imaginary...

[Threadkiller]

Haven't really been following this (can't work up the interest), but I take it the gist is he made up an imaginary girlfriend who died story to garner some sympathy buzz in advance of the Heisman voting. Can someone tell me if this is pretty close to the mark?

About the only thing you missed was the Deadspin article where they took down the imaginary girlfriend by discovering she had no birth cert.

It took them 5 days instead of the normal 5 years.

[anonamom]

You don't get it. He didn't make her up; he was catfished.

[Jane on Ipad]

What is "catfished"?

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"they took down the imaginary girlfriend by discovering she had no birth cert."

No one from Hawaii (or anywhere else) ever attested to a legitimate, authentic and legally sufficient birth certificate bearing her name. There were no contemporaneous newspaper reports of her birth.

[narciso]

Some pieces seem like they were composed at the gym, by hitting random keys;

http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/01/18/how_the_current_gop_thinks_like_revolutionaries_and_why_thats_a_bad_thing

[Danube of Thought iPad]

"Catfished," as I think I have learned in recent days, means having been duped into corresponding with a fictional person through various social media. It happened to some guy in real life, who coined the term and has put together a movie or TV show, or both, using that term.

[Thomas Collins]

I guess I'm the guy on the left, boatbuilder (the one who takes up the most space).