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February 09, 2013

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Jane - snowed in

That's just sad. The entire NY Times needs rehab!

narciso

From last night's data dump,

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/08/Hagel-Atlantic-Council

At least two major league Arabian companies, which might explain his flexibility, OTOH, at least one company, that tried to circumvent the Gazprom blocade

Threadkiller

Dorner was equal opportunity when it came to observations of racism.

From the manifesto:

Black on White racism:

Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1's) and novice P-2's. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly.

Hispanic on Hispanic racism:

Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. I'm not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target.

Lesbian on hetero "racism":

Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.

Asian on everybody "racism":
Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, " I......don't like conflict". You are a high value target as well.

Loon...

narciso

Also from last night's thread, there is cognitive dissonance enough to choke a horse, in the LUN

Sue

Good grief. I worry for mankind if they buy into what the NYTimes is vomiting.

boatbuilder

Recall the fascination with the nutball manifesto of the Unibomber. Everything is viewed through the same narrow lens.

narciso

My fishwrap is of little use, but then again they haven't really focused on him, in the LUN

Jane - snowed in

I have to say after listening to all the Dorner coverage, I started to wonder if maybe some of what he was saying was true.

I really hope not. We will never know.

narciso

His main claim, from the first link is not, Jane, and it flows from there.

Rob Crawford

Jane, narciso's 9:21 link should put that to rest.

Remember -- his accusations were made in the wake of Rampart, Rodney King, and OJ. The LAPD was being "purged" and the authorities would have jumped on any credible accusations to polish their own records. But his accusations were so weak they didn't last in that atmosphere.

(Unless the "thin blue line" includes the staff of DoubleTree hotels...)

Threadkiller

From Narciso's link:

"In other words, it was not, contrary to Dorner’s assertion, just a matter of other police covering for each other. Two or more hotel bellhops were also witnesses and stated that the brutality he reported didn’t happen.

From the guy who got kicked in the face:

Fox 11 Exclusive: Christopher Gettler Deposition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZR6tjeu-A&feature=youtu.be

Odd...

Captain Hate

Good grief. I worry for mankind if they buy into what the NYTimes is vomiting.

Any time somebody makes a comment about having read something in there my skepticism meter gets pegged. In addition to Duranty's shameful obscuring of what the Soviets were up to in the Ukraine and other places, the Sulzberger's absolutely downplayed the existence of the Holocaust. So their record of perfidy is very extensive. To Hell with them and their garbage.

Jane - snowed in

Rob,

The part that gave me pause was the people attesting to his reputation prior to the incident with his police superior.

I'm glad there were witnesses.

Threadkiller

--"I'm glad there were witnesses."--

ZImmerman should be so glad.

Evidence released last week in the second-degree-murder case against George Zimmerman shows four key witnesses made major changes in what they say they saw and heard the night he fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford.

Three changed their stories in ways that may damage Zimmerman.


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-22/news/os-george-zimmerman-key-witnesses-20120522_1_witnesses-change-shooting-fdle-agent

Oh yeah, except those witnesses.

Jane - Mock the Media!

Here is my witness story TK: Many years ago I was walking down the street in NYC with 2 friends. All 3 of us were employed as claims adjusters for the same insurance company. Our job was to investigate and determine how accidents happened - among other things.

About 10 feet in front of us there was a major car accident, involving a car and a taxi. We were all eye witnesses. As we waited for the police to arrive we realized that each of us saw something entirely different. It was amazing.

Threadkiller
These "underclass" jobs include harvesting crops, unskilled labor in landscaping and construction, house-cleaning, and maid and busboy work in hotels and restaurants, all of which have a disproportionate number of illegal workers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration

"Señor Bellhop, do you care to testify against a seasond veteran of the LAPD? I think you know the answer."

Threadkiller

In their pursuit of a fugitive ex-cop, at least seven officers opened fire on what turned out to be a mother and daughter delivering newspapers on a quiet residential street, law enforcement sources told The Times.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/cops-opened-fire-on-mother-daughter-during-dorner-manhunt.html

Threadkiller

Law enforcement investigators at the scene of a bullet-riddled black truck on Flagler Lane in Redondo Beach Thursday morning. It appeared that the police car at right and the truck collided and the truck also had several bullet holes in the wiindshield.

http://www.record-bee.com/ci_22541946

(A) nuther Bub

A man who murders the wholly uninvolved daughter of his perceived enemy and kills two others unrelated to his rage has given up any claim to sympathy or understanding. He's a cold-blooded brute and probably a loon and deserves no one's pity.

Threadkiller

I completely agree with (A)nuther Bub.

narciso

And this account, can't get his service record, correctly, even though he is sort of the evil version of LL Cool J's character from NCIS LA;

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/panic_as_fiend_runs_for_hills_sT0eznrqmvDqOvxr0TibiI

narciso

Schama, is still believing Tudor propaganda, he used to be more curious when he wrote Citizens, but that was a quarter century ago.

Frau Libby Krimi

narciso, Schama drank the barley water.

Captain Hate

Maybe with Schama it was osmosis from being around all those PBS dipsticks. I still have "Landscape and Memory" on my shelf to read, written before the slugs made it to the cortex.

NkoniPad

Left/liberalism as mental illness in full evidence in this dorner thing.

GeoffB

I believe Threadkiller's photos point to the real reason for us investigating new avenues. In the middle of a debate about why only professionals should have access to guns, having the public start paying attention to police efforts to take down the wrong person twice within hours could prove dispiriting.

narciso

I haven't read that one, the piece in the Beast, got a fair amount of challenge in the comment section,

narciso

Alison Weir, seems to have been another who bought the Tory bill of goods,

http://www.amazon.com/The-Princes-Tower-Alison-Weir/dp/0345391780/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_3

narciso

OTOH, Phillipa Gregory, in the Cousins Wars, has unraveled this knot more thoroughly,

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