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henry

Only one barrel has a choke in it, which is odd for skeet. Does Feinstein know the JEF has ported barrels on his shotgun?

matt

from the angle, he must have been shooting at the straight across down low target.You know, the middle house.

It truly looks like a Barbie shot.I'm sure there's a drawer full of Obama Barbie shots. Scuba Obama. Juggling Obama. Ski Obama.

Captain Hate

Only one barrel has a choke in it, which is odd for skeet.

Probably done to dissipate the recoil for Preznit Ladies Tees. I think he's shooting at something stationary and not at a great height.

henry

Maybe a trap shot from station 3 (middle), easier to hit than a crossing shot. Plus you only need one barrel for trap.

Porchlight

"President Barack Obama shoots clay targets on the range at Camp David, Md., Saturday, Aug. 4, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)," the caption reads.

Aw, shooting skeet on his birthday. Isn't that sweet.

News reports had him playing a round of golf that morning before leaving for Camp David. That's a busy day for ol' Barry.

henry

done to dissipate the recoil

I've seen many target guns with a shock absorber built into the stock for recoil reduction... I think the porting is to reduce barrel jump when shooting. A smooth barrel swing is key to target shooting.

narciso

Probably his version of dodgeball, speaking of shooting one's appendages off, this bit from that speech, where Hagel cozying up to the former Saudi spymaster,

http://freebeacon.com/hagels-lost-speech/


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Janet

You know they are bothered if they released that photo. Hah!
It is probably a set up photo taken in the last few days. I don't believe anything from these liars.

Janet

""President Barack Obama shoots clay targets on the range at Camp David, Md., Saturday, Aug. 4, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)," the caption reads."

Let's get Pete Souza on Face The Nation.

Captain Hate

You know they are bothered if they released that photo. Hah!

It would be nice if they spent time on things other than trying to make the JEF look like something other than a complete douche.

Stephanie

Unpossible, capt. His fresh clean scent is also getting a little moldy as well. And I am glad that they have all these clorox sessions to distract them from 'doing something' in many other areas.

Janet

The pic.

Janet

White House Warns: Don't Photoshop Obama Gun Pic

"This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House."

peter

Maybe he was shooting dog for lunch.

narciso

Janet, Schieffer would just nod, and compliment the shooting, if it was W, however, there would much 'gnashing of teeth', remember how they reacted to Cheney's accidental shooting,

peter

They release this with the same smugness as the phony birth certificate

Janet

Hah!, peter!

The photoshop warning should have read - “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. shooter of skeet.”

Rob Crawford

I love their vain attempt to imply intellectual property rights on a photo of a government official taken by a government photographer at a government facility.

matt

usually ported barrels would vent the gases 360 degrees, at least on skeet & sporting clays guns.

It looks like a trap gun, but to vent all the gases from one side would tend to push the gun to the opposite side.The whole point of porting is to reduce recoil and movement so that the shooter can control the gun more precisely.

The photo looks a little screwey to me.

henry

Janet, that may not be accurate... the caption "Obama shoots clay targets" does not actually claim he was shooting "skeet". As we know "skeet" is a specific shooting sport, clay targets are just that -- no particular shooting sport is required (and as noted above the clay target may be stationary in O's picture). If they gave his score (Zero most likely if he shot a round of skeet), it would be better disinformation.

Janet

It has begun (this is probably gonna be too big, but you can right click it) -

Janet

The photo looks a little screwey to me.

Someone on FB suggested it might be a movie prop gun. Hah!

Janet

Here was the original quote -

FF: Have you ever fired a gun?

Obama: Yes, in fact, up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time.

Janet

They release this with the same smugness as the phony birth certificate

peter is exactly right.
A tweet - David Plouffe @davidplouffe

Attn skeet birthers. Make our day - let the photoshop conspiracies begin!...

peter

Excellent, Janet.

Captain Hate

Janet, I'm watching the Hokies versus the Holes; for some reason a local UHF station gets a Raycom/Bojangles sports network feed and we get a weekly ACC game. Btw where has Walter been?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

It is worth noting Barry is shooting a Browning Citori, a gun manufactured in Japan. There are several American shotgun manufacturers including special guns just for trap.
Doesn't he care about American workers?

Captain Hate

Btw I want it noted that I've stopped calling Va Tech the Chokies as a peace offering to get Walter back; it's good for the duration of Black History Month or when I decide to use it for a cheap laugh. I really miss seeing that red-haired dollbaby Paige Greenberg; her presence justified Seth's continued employment.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Also noteworthy is Barry's form is absolutely awful.
His left elbow is way too low and he's back on his aft leg's heel.
He might have shot at a "skeet" once or twice but I doubt he ever actually hit one.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Btw I want it noted that I've stopped calling Va Tech the Chokies--

Cap'n,
Can't remember if you've ever brought up the obnoxious Tony Kornheiser in our conversations here. If not I'm stumped as to what you might do with his name. :)

Captain Hate

Oh I think you have a pretty good idea, Iggy. Btw I consider Wilbon by far the bigger toolbox of the PTI pairing.

Sue

Is this the Super Bowl of skeet shooting?

Sue

There isn't much kick in that gun or they would have had to explain the bruise on his cheek.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

-- Btw I consider Wilbon by far the bigger toolbox of the PTI pairing.--

Concur. I used to not mind Kornheiser too much but I suspect his daily hobnobbing with Wilbon has turned him into more of a "knucklehead".

Sue

WTF is the purposes of this? No one expected a city boy to know how to shoot. They're idiots.

Bruce
"This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House."
Which merits the reply from Rob:
I love their vain attempt to imply intellectual property rights on a photo of a government official taken by a government photographer at a government facility.
My only quibble is that being a government facility is really irrelevant. Now, if the photo was, indeed, taken by a government employee, then there is no copyright in the picture, whatsoever - the one big exception to automatic copyright since the U.S. joined Berne better than two decades ago. But, if there were, Photoshop-like modification of the photo of the President released during a gun debate would almost assuredly be Fair Use. And, no, the President, nor his family, have much in the way of a right to publicity. For one thing, he is the ultimate public figure, and therefore any picture of him is, almost by definition, newsworthy. And, where is their loss? Can't really be expecting to sell pictures of themselves, at least not until he leaves office.

What I think this empty threat does is that it will probably incite a rash of Photoshop-type image modifications - for example, showing all the people and things that he really wants to shoot. Since there isn't a lot of scenery to the left of the end of the muzzle, I think that I would just cut out Obama, his gun, and maybe the smoke, and then overlay that image as desired. Then, you can have him shooting pretty much anything he wants - Boehner, the Republican Party, Sarah Palin, old people, dogs (for dinner), etc. Should be fun.

Ann

We are to believe that Obama was shooting skeet on his birthday and not golfing?

So, I went over to the Daily Mail and they remind us he was campaigning in Chicago on the day before his birthday. He also took staffers out for burgers before a huge party at the white house.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2021286/US-debt-ceiling-deal-President-Obama-celebrates-Jennifer-Hudson-50th-birthday.html#axzz2Jg21i190

President Obama turned 50 on August 4, 2012. How do you think he celebrated?

a) Attended lavish party in Chicago the day before

b) Ate burgers and fries before lavish birthday party at the White House.

c) Went Skeet shooting at at Camp David, Md., Saturday, Aug. 4, 2012

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

I forgot to note Barry also has the butt too high on his shoulder. I suspect, like all subjects, he knew more than any skeet shooters around him and didn't really need any instruction.

Porchlight

David Plouffe @davidplouffe

Attn skeet birthers. Make our day - let the photoshop conspiracies begin!...

How presidential. Has any administration ever behaved like this - taking public swipes at private citizens (and private companies like Fox)? I know we didn't have Twitter before, but still.

Ann

Damn, never mind. That was 2011.

I still don't believe it.

Jane (A dog in the crate is better than one on the plate)

I know nothing about any of this, but don't you aim up when you are shooting skeets?

Elliott

from the angle

Would they release a photograph of the President shooting up?

Jane on Ipad

Lol. Elliott

maryrose

I agree with Janet. This must have really bothered them. Good. Obama is a wussy boy. Every real man knows that. From his mom jeans to his affeminate ways he is a metrosexual writ large. This is a posed picture to make him appear macho. Any JOM member could lick him with one hand behind their back. I am including the gals in this statement. He looks like Kerry during 2004. I agree with Porch. What kind of lame administration does this. He should be revealing a plan to get the unemployment rate down to below 6%. Instead they are on the defensive trying to defend a fake narrative wrt their boy poppet. Disgusting.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--I know nothing about any of this, but don't you aim up when you are shooting skeets?--

He probably got his shot off too early, Jane.
Why do you think Michelle is always so grumpy?

Ann

Twitter is to funny:

:White House is now claiming that is the exact gun Obama used to shoot Bin Laden.


:You never played ground skeet?

Janet

Yes, Jane....so you officially know more about skeet shooting than Obama who does "skeet shooting all the time."

Like henry pointed out though, the WH only says - "President Barack Obama shoots clay targets on the range...".

Janet

WTF is the purposes of this? No one expected a city boy to know how to shoot. They're idiots.

So true. It is Obama who cared that people thought he never shot a gun. He is the one who made up the story.

Those twitters are hilarious, Ann!

maryrose

Janet:
So true. His feelings were hurt so he went to Valjar and said" Everyone thinks I can't shoot, What should I do? Voila a picture where he incorrectly holds the gun and his weight is on the wrong foot. He looks like the idiot that he is. Better to shut up and let people believe you have some cahones.

Porchlight

maryrose,

I've long believed that part of the goal is to drop the bar so low that no one will remember how Presidents and their administrations used to behave.

Dave (in MA)

I'm guessing a picture of Netanyahu was thumbtacked to a tree nearby.

henry

Dave, since it was in August and they mention clay targets, perhaps a Chia Romney on a stump?

sbw

The photograph may not be manipulated in any way

Bullying bluster. Photoshop away.

Jack is Back

If he was shooting skeet he was woefully out of shooting posture. I use to shoot skeet when I lived in Southern Maryland back in the 70's. And beside gun safety the first thing you are taught is proper standing stance.

Here is a short video of how to set up for skeet.

At the 1:30 mark he shows how it should be for a lefty but its all the same regardless of which side. BTW, I wonder if Obama even knows if he is right or left eye dominant. Just because you throw and/or write lefty doesn't mean that your left eye is dominant. Sort of important in shooting.

maryrose

JIB:
Your knowledge shows what a phony picture this really is.He's a narcissistic buffoon.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

-- Just because you throw and/or write lefty doesn't mean that your left eye is dominant. Sort of important in shooting.--

Tell me about it. Wish I had learned to shoot right handed since I'm cross dominant.

AliceH

I know the critiques of Obama's stance/gun placement/aim etc. are mostly as reaction to his braggadocio, but it's making me even more self-conscious and anxious about my up-coming first-time at the gun range. And frankly, I didn't think I could be more anxious than I already was.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Alice,
Not being a nut you can acknowledge your beginner status and you will probably have a flock of kindly, helpful people around giving you useful pointers.

Barry, being a nut, has to pretend to be an expert at everything, even the things he fakes, and so people flock around him to ridicule the phony.

Jack is Back

What I want to know is his break count from all the shooting. Did he actully play Skeet or just did one station and a few shells? If he played Skeet and used 25 shells how did he fare at each station and especially station 8:)

He most likely shot 4 or 5 shells and missed all targets, gave up blaming the wind or the gun itself and went back inside for a cheesburger.

AliceH

Thanks, Iggy. Unfortunately, I'm a not-entirely-reformed perfectionist raised on the "ignorance and inexperience is no excuse" plan. It isn't other peoples' criticism OF me so much as feeding a menu of items for self-criticism that I battle.

I have confirmed I'm right-eye dominant, though. So I've got that going for me. ;)

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--I have confirmed I'm right-eye dominant, though. So I've got that going for me. ;)--

Then you should shoot like this :) not this ;) or you're going to have a world of trouble. :)

Janet

Well said, Ignatz.
I don't know much about guns, Alice & I grew up around them. I even hunted, but I never knew the correct terms or even what kind of rifle I was using. I used the "deer rifle" to shoot deer! Hah!
...It is the showoff braggarts that get into trouble with their bsing.

Manuel Transmission

Hey Bruce, following up on the discussion you started yesterday, I believe there is a huge factor that was not specifically brought out in the insightful comments about the murder rates and the sub-cultures.

About 3 1/2 years ago someone here offered a link to a shrink website that had a world changing (for me) paper on psychopathy. The gist of it was that historically about one percent of the general population are psychopaths. Like other abnormals, their share of the pie was naturally restricted by society. Unfortunately, thanks to LBJ, the welfare state did precisely the anti-eugenic thing and rewarded psychopaths to breed exponentially until we apparently now have more like five percent extant.

In case I'm too narciso-like in my comment, the punchline is that the naturally occurring studly black psychos spread their seed around the inner city thanks to welfare queens being rewarded for many fatherless kids until that became the norm.

Now, statistically that happens to correlate well with the black community, but I believe that is just an artifact of the social circumstance that propagated it. Furthermore, I believe there has been a lot written (Thomas Sowell?) that argues that the black community was quite normal and middle class in their behavior after the War and only began to deteriorate with the help of LBJ.

Beasts of England

Ig@12:44 - Quite frankly, I'm glad he's not using one of my Grandpa's barrels...

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

John Nolte at Breitbart on the lapdog press and Barry's alleged skeet shooting.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Ig@12:44 - Quite frankly, I'm glad he's not using one of my Grandpa's barrels...--

We'll see that when we learn he puts on a coonskin cap and barks squirrels out of trees in the Camp David woods

Manuel Transmission

OK, actually found the original link (LUN)

narciso

Well therein lies the main problem, the demeaning of middle class norms, across all
ethnic categories, Murray has examined it's impact in the White community, the hipster ethos,
that is the main problem.

Beasts of England

narciso@4:03 - In our local (Alabama) paper, the referenced AP story has the verbiage as '...flashlight and a firearm.'

narciso

I think the problem was Hagel gave the game away;


http://news.yahoo.com/biden-raises-possibility-direct-u-iran-talks-135607063.html

Haven't seen how my McClatchy put it,beasts, but I'll bet in the most misleading way possible,

Jack is Back

Listening to the local Pet show on the radio while going to my Publix, they had this little bit of trivia:

How many more neck bones does a giraffe have then a field mouse?

No googling or binging, please:)

Jack is Back

Neck bones = Vertabrae.

marlene

AliceH@2:59---don't be anxious at the gun range! The instructors are helpful and patient. I'm sure gun ranges around the country have had many newbies in the recent weeks.I'm probably going to take another class for "ladies only" at Sig Sauer later this spring.

marlene

JiB---where is your nearest Publix? We're renting a condo the month of March at Flager/Beverly Beach.

AliceH

Thanks for the support, Marlene. At the moment, the gun range near me says they can't get ammo, they can't get guns for rental, and they have no certified instructors yet (except a concealed-carry-only instructor, who is having surgery and will be out for a while). I will have to hope for help from random fellow patrons, or the owner, depending on who feels sorriest for me. Or worriedest!

Jack is Back

marlene,

Flagler Beach but over the ICW bridge. Its at the first traffic light past Wadsworth Park on the right.

Have you ever stayed in Flagler Beach/Beverly Beach before? Its Old Florida, the way it should be but isn't. I am right up the road and go there all the time. Let us know and we'll get together for dinner some time.

marlene

JiB---we stayed in St.Augustine a few years ago and did some exploring of the area. My husband has to be able to kayak,so the ICW should be perfect.We also wanted to be close to an airport,JAX is about an hour's drive? We are driving down from Maine,but expecting visitors during the month.It would be great to get together.This is our first long vacation ever,so we're looking forward to leaving winter in the rear-view window!

Jack is Back

marlene,

There is a great kayak rental place at the Palm Coast Marina. Lots of wonderful wetland canals off the ICW up by Bing's Landing off of A1A in The Hammock, just north of where you are staying. Lot of people go fishing in their kayaks.

JAX airport is closer than Orlando by 20 minutes. Say 1 hour 15 minutes using the East loop of 295 or State Road 9 in Jacksonville.

You'll love the area. Farmers Market every Friday and Saturday in Flagler Beach on the square. Terrific seafood resturaunts and a new one at the Flagler Pier. Our A1A drive is one the finest scenic ocean drives anywhere. Lot of great fishmongers in the area to take advantage of for your own cooking. Plus the beaches in Beverly and Flagler are sand not coquina and the surf is world class. There is always a gang of local surfers out there to entertain.

Look forward to seeing you down here on the First Coast.

Beasts of England

JiB@4:20 - African or European?

marlene

Thanks JiB! We are bringing the dog,I think Flager Beach is pet friendly,except near the pier?

Jack is Back

BoE,

African or European what? The Giraffe:) of the mouse:)?

Actually it was an amazing answer - none. The giraffe and the mouse like all mammals have the same number of neck bones - 7 (I believe that was the number the Veternarian hosting the show used).

Giraffe is my favorite of all the animals in the wild kingdom. Great book out there called Zarafa about the one Mohammed, the Emperor of the Ottoman Empire gave to Charles X or France as a gift. After traversing the Med, the French paraded it from Marseille to Paris. Fun read.

Jack is Back

Marlene,

Flagler County code is leashes and poop bags. If you do that you can walk them anywhere. In fact, down A1A (south) is High Tides where you can sit outside with the dogs and have some great chow - right on the beach. Valet parking only because of the lack of property to do your own. Fun joint.

BTW, lots of "down easters" down here:)

dublindave

Only pro-gun advocates would use the image of a Negro wielding an armed weapon to bolster their case for less gun restrictions.

Dems need to scream 'racism' louder and more often!!!!

matt

I just realized that Obama and Putin should get together and wrestle some tigers or find the lost treasure of the Atocha or something.

They could trade manly remarks as they are caught in candid manly poses.

Beasts of England

JiB@5:21 - An unladen swallow!

Sue

Ive never shot skeet in my life. We use empty beer cans for target practice. Rednecks we are!

marlene

Thanks again, JiB. The cairn "terrorizer" is always on leash,so no problem!

Beasts of England

'...an armed weapon...'

Priceless.

Jack is Back

RIP Barney and thank you George for keeping my family safe, honoring our wounded warriors and those who made the ultimate sacrifice and for taking minimalist, cost saving, working vacations in Texas. Unlike the arrogant spend thrift little nasty prick skeet shooter currently residing with a wig wearing hiptster AA/EEO shyster.

Jack is Back

OMG, I just saw a preview of NBC news tonight and the lead is "the story behind Obama branishing a firearm". Should I break my ban on MSM TV and watch. NO, because I know already it is some kind of pre-emptive apology or a Nobel Piece Prize moment (only jarheads and Infantry get that, right?).

henry

Heh, "brandishing a firearm". He was shooting a shotgun at a "clay target", I don't think the secret service guys would put up with a weapon displayed threateningly angrily in their direction. Even without their departed chief NBC news is a bunch of nitwits.

Rick Ballard

MT,

What if it's just correct risk/reward analysis such as was used by Vikings in planning their summer cruises to visit the monasteries of England throughout the 9th century? Consider the prog plantations as operating under Danelaw (or Salic Law) with very rational sums applied to weregild transactions.

The savagery in the prog plantations is clearing them of productive blacks as effectively as Viking savagery cleared the productive Mercians from southeastern England.

Janet

If only THIS photo made it on all the MFM news programs...

photographic proof that Obama himself claimed to be born in Kenya.
(*I don't think he was, but I think he lied to sound more exotic...like phony Cherokee Warren)

Janet

Skeet shooting all the time & born in Kenya....both stories that Obama told himself but the MFM ridicule Americans that question the stories. I don't get it.:(

Jack is Back! (On his iPad)

You can make Nukes out of. Thorium. Not as well as Uranium but you can.

On that. Good night.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Only pro-gun advocates would use the image of a Negro wielding an armed weapon to bolster their case for less gun restrictions.--

Two corrections.
1. We are using it to ridicule the dumbass shooting the gun just as we used Duke's ride in the tank to ridicule him.
2. We very much want law abiding citizens of all colors to own and enjoy as many firearms as they please.

Only a true, twisted, little racist assumes a picture of a black guy shooting a shotgun is somehow threatening and an argument for gun control.
Physician, shoot thyself.

narciso

Barry Dunham just wasn't going to get him anywhere. Soetoro might have given him a better change.

'Brandishing it, lord love a duck. they are thoroughly useless. Like John Kerry meeting with Mottaki his opposite number.

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