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Stephanie

Here's Johnny!

Wait wrong movie. You'd think the idjits that starred in Mars Attacks would get the premise of appeasement but no...

Dave (in MA)

Caused by "global warming".

</CNN>

narciso

Well I think he's going for a 'War of the World's
feel.

Threadkiller

I don't get the "sonic boom" component of this as reported on tv.

If it was already traveling a 33,000mph, when would the boom occur?

narciso

Really, you can't fix those setting up SkyDragon nets


http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/13/3232959/democrats-offer-long-shot-bill.html

narciso

Forget that the Koch's are one of the largest cancer fighting funders;


http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/02/your-cancer-research-funding-at-work-attacking-the-tea-party/#comments

Neo

I actually don’t think we should ban handguns,” Obama said. “But keep in mind what we’re trying to do is come up with a package that protects Second Amendment rights but also contributes to reduce violence.”

I'm sure the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence is just crushed.

MarkO

At this point, what difference does it make?

narciso

It really does seem like something out of Armageddon, or Deep Impact.

Glenda

In other news, Dorothy has returned from Oz :)

NK

Neo-- crushed? not at JEF, they know he's BSing. The anti-gun rights people are crushed by the fact they got their chance, slaughter in Newtown, and the country doesn't back a weapon ban of any kind-- not even 'assault weapons'-- we'll see about 30 round mags. I am pleasantly surprised how much gun ownership is now seen as a civil right under attack by an out of control government. There's pockets of that even in Blue State Hells-- I know I've come around to that view.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--If it was already traveling a 33,000mph, when would the boom occur?--

Somebody who knows more can weigh in TK but I believe the shock wave from a supersonic object is a continual "boom" that travels with the object as long as it stays supersonic.
Additionally it seems possible to me there was some type of explosion associated with the bright flash of light as the object presumably broke apart.

Rob Crawford

Where's Slim Whitman when you need him?

Rob Crawford
It really does seem like something out of Armageddon, or Deep Impact.

"Lucifer's Hammer".

That book's not far from my mind today. Two hours until the near-miss!

narciso

Also Shiva Descending, but I was thinking of film depictions,

Dave (in MA)

I want the people to know that they still have 3 out of 3 branches of the government working against them, and that ain't good.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

This article at wiki has some good info on sonic booms.

narciso

2 1/2 the Court get's things occasionally right,
snarc.

Dave (in MA)

I remember when I was a little kid, a sonic boom happened while I was out front, and it made the metal trash cans and the windows rattle.

Porchlight

OT,

Something that occurred to me yesterday. Do you ever notice that liberals:

1) call the 2008 recession the "Great Recession"

and

2) refer to it in the past tense?


Do people here do either of those? I sure don't.

Dave (in MA)

Porchlight, they're more apt to call it the "Bush recession", whereas I prefer to assign blame to Barney Frank & Chris Dodd.

Past tense? Haven't you heard? The Dow hit 14,000 points. Happy Days Are Here Again, pay no attention to U-6 and the foodstamp rolls...

Porchlight

Dave, as someone else here said, amazing what large injections of borrowed/printed Fed cash can do.

Thomas Collins

From TM's link:

"One Russian politician said the event was not a meteor shower but a US weapons test, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the leader of the ultra-nationalist Liberal Democratic Party, was quoted as saying: "Meteors are falling. Those are not meteors, it is Americans testing their new weapon."

Calling Glenn Greenwald! Is this a new top secret ObamaDrone test gone awry?

Thomas Collins

From TM's link:

"One Russian politician said the event was not a meteor shower but a US weapons test, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the leader of the ultra-nationalist Liberal Democratic Party, was quoted as saying: "Meteors are falling. Those are not meteors, it is Americans testing their new weapon."

Calling Glenn Greenwald! Is this a new top secret ObamaDrone test gone awry?

matt

A sonic boom is a "Boom!" or sometimes a double boom. We had a couple of shuttle landings at Edwards that set off car alarms in Southern California. Traveling at the speed of a meteor I don't know.

When I was a boy we would hear them out at Edwards when we went out there for various things.

Rob Crawford
A sonic boom is a "Boom!" or sometimes a double boom.

ISTR the double-boom is from the shockwaves off different parts of the aircraft. Nose and wingtips?

Frau Neinsagerin

This is what happens when your incompetent DoS dolts translators get "reset" wrong. Mars Attacks, indeed.

As for "Lucifer's Hammer," I am presently sitting atop Half Dome. And it's cold!

NK

Narc@12:10-- I am a huge fan of Prof. Jacobson- he is a shining light of reason, cutting through the darkness of ignorance and corruption in academia-- at an Ivy no less.

Threadkiller

"ISTR the double-boom is from the shockwaves off different parts of the aircraft. Nose and wingtips?"

That is what I remember. Maybe as the rock fragmented, the pieces reached supersonic in short order.

Janet

At Drudge - VALENTINES DAY MASSACRE: Layoffs at WASHPOST...

I called them again today & told them to STOP sending me their free Shopping Guide in the mail. I shoulda told them I was goin' "green" & didn't want trees killed. I mainly just hate the WaPo though.

Stephanie

Watching the meteorite is like watching Pong in slow time. NASA channel if anyone is interested.

Frau Neinsagerin

Atta gal, Janet. At one time, the LA Times began handing out free copies at grocery stores. I was able to let them know, I would not take their rag under any circumstances. My husband handled the phone calls which continued for a long time.

My husband, who was born during and grew up under Onkel Adolf's twelve years of national socialism, thinks the U.S. media is *worse* than what he remembers. I think kat might agree.

Frau Neinsagerin

Daryl Hannah and Sierra Club loonies tie selves to WH fence to protest the XL pipeline.

Although not noted for his brilliance, John-John rose in my estimation by dumping Hannah.

Captain Hate

Although not noted for his brilliance, John-John rose in my estimation by dumping Hannah.

According to M (as in mensa)SNBC sooper jeenyus and original thinker Mike Barnicle, he's the greatest small plane pilot who ever didn't live.

daddy

Good Morning!

13 minutes till the nearest point of the Asteroids flyby. 02:24 TM Time!

In the meantime, oldest daughter and I were watching "Gone With The Wind" last night. At the end, when Rhett sez "Frankly my Dear,..." my daughter wondered if that meant he didn't love Scarlett anymore. I maintain yes, and that Rhett was through with loving her forever. Young Miss P was wondering if she could go to Charleston and get Rhett to fall in love with her all over again.

We men are oftimes morons, but I don't think so. I think Rhett was done with her love-wise for final. Anyone out there think otherwise?

daddy

Lets make a bet on exactly how close the Asteroid comes. FOX has a ticker showing it now at 17, 373.6 and coming quick.

I'm guessing 16,994.7.

Winner gets a Moose's Tooth Pub T-Shirt if we ever drink a beer together .

Get your bets in quick!

NK

Re-post from prior thread: If the 2102 DA14 thing doesn't come off as planned and it.. ya know.. hits earth. It's been emotional you all.

Porchlight

I think he thought he was, daddy. But we'll never know what might have been. I've always believed that Scarlett went home to Tara, got to work and grew up into a serious woman like her mother before her. Rhett could have fallen in love again with that woman, if circumstances allowed them to find each other again.

henry

Scarlett was cute, but a drama queen. Life's too short for that as Rhett, Daddy & I know via male DNA.

Captain Hate

Tammy Bruce is suggesting that the meteor hit because it was concentrated around the asteroid like dirt hovering around PigPen in Peanuts. I've been giggling about that analogy ever since she said it.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

From the wiki article linked earlier;

There is a rise in pressure at the nose, decreasing steadily to a negative pressure at the tail, followed by a sudden return to normal pressure after the object passes. This "overpressure profile" is known as an N-wave because of its shape. The "boom" is experienced when there is a sudden change in pressure, so the N-wave causes two booms, one when the initial pressure rise from the nose hits, and another when the tail passes and the pressure suddenly returns to normal. This leads to a distinctive "double boom" from supersonic aircraft.

daddy

Dueling Craters.

Here's the purported Russian Media Crater from FOX and from TM's link:

But here is just up video of the purported same crater: Russian Meteor Crater FIRST FOOTAGE

Rob Crawford
VALENTINES DAY MASSACRE:

Remember when a "massacre" meant dead men and not just upper-middle-class twits out of work?

Rob Crawford
Tammy Bruce is suggesting that the meteor hit because it was concentrated around the asteroid like dirt hovering around PigPen in Peanuts.

The near-miss asteroid isn't that big. Plus, if I understand it correctly, the meteorite came from the wrong direction.

daddy

17. 239.1!

Dammitall@#$

Missed it by that much:

Captain Hate

The near-miss asteroid isn't that big. Plus, if I understand it correctly, the meteorite came from the wrong direction.

It didn't sound very sciency to me.

henry

Didn't the article in TM's link say there were multiple impacts because the meteor fragmented?

cathyf
Scarlett was cute, but a drama queen. Life's too short for that as Rhett, Daddy & I know via male DNA.
How do I put this politely, henry...

I believe that you, Daddy and Rhett know that life is too short for drama queens. But I would claim that it is despite the male DNA rather than because of it!

Old Lurker

That was a great Wiki...thanks Iggy.

Jane - snowed in

I made it. Did you guys?

Jane - snowed in

Daddy,

That's the 2nd video you have posted today that has blown my socks off! (or was that the asteroid?)

Dave (in MA)
Although not noted for his brilliance, John-John rose in my estimation by dumping Hannah.
Speaking of the dating habits of the Kennedy klan, it's probably not news to some, but I recently heard that Sox CEO Larry Lucchino (a one-time colleague of Cankles during Watergate) was the Eunice-preferred suitor of Maria during her pre-Skeletor days while she was also dating Ahnuld.
jimmyk

Not sure that meteorite video is going to withstand scrutiny....

The most shocking thing in TM's link was this:

"President Vladimir Putin said he thanked God no big fragments had fallen in populated areas."

Putin thanking God? I guess that's just a figure of speech, or maybe a mistranslation.

Dave (in MA)

Daddy, is a fargin' icehole technically considered a "crater"?

jimmyk

But I would claim that it is despite the male DNA rather than because of it!

I think you're right, cathyf, like moths to a flame, but it does wear thin after a while, speaking from experience. (And I'm not referring to Mrs K, who is anything but.)

AliceH

If it broke up as reported, there'd likely be more than one crater.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Don't know from DNA, but my fargin' icehole brother has always been sufficient drama queen that I have never had the slightest attraction to the Scarletts of the world.

Jack is Back

Been watching 2012 DA14 on NASA TV. They have it being filmed from the Gingin Observatory in Australia. It got as close as 17, 227 miles (what astronomers call a cosmic inch). The meteorite had nothing to do with the asteroid. The Asteroid is on the Sun's eliptical and the meteroite was inside ours.

At 33,000mph it overheats entering the Earth's atmosphere, hits the cold wave starting at abou 100 miles up and finally under that differencial pressure it goes BOOM. Pieces upon pieces fall off but most is disintergrated. That crater daddy posted is very small compared to what it would have made if in full tact.

DA14 is about 50 meters in size and has an estimated airburst energy of 2.4 megatons at 8.5 km altitude. In other words. we don't want it to come any closer than it did today. It'll be back next year so keep your fingers crossed.

Neo

My gas and oil advisor tells me that NYC will be switching over to natural gas in a big way. He expects it to push up the price of natural gas produced in PA and other place, but obviously not NY. Gov. Cuomo, who can't punch his way out of a paper bag, is still sitting on the scientific advisory panel report saying that "fracking" is good. He's afraid that his friends will abandon him if he brings wealth and prosperity to New York.

Andrew Cuomo, "Fracking Idiot"

Beasts of England

Only one sonic boom per customer. Just sayin'...

Rob Crawford
It'll be back next year so keep your fingers crossed.

Great. Is it supposed to be close?

And remember folks -- there are still two comets scheduled to be visible this year! Neither are supposed to come close, but comets have too much cultural baggage to be entirely safe.

Beasts of England

daddy@2:27 - Really? You post that photo and there's no penis pun provided?

Beasts of England

Glad you're safe, Jane! :-)

jimmyk

According to Wiki, while it has an orbital period of less than a year, its next close approach won't be till 2046, and that won't be as close as this one.

Chubby

((We men are oftimes morons, but I don't think so. I think Rhett was done with her love-wise for final. Anyone out there think otherwise? ))

in the bestseller sequel LUN they get back together, but I, like you, think it was a Humpty Dumpty situation that couldn't be put together again

I can see a credible storyline of their meeting in old age at a social event or somesuch, he happily re-married, she a successful business woman, still alone, and her telling him in all sincerity how she learned too late what she lost, and how the chastisement changed her, and their parting as friends.

Jack is Back

jimmyk,

I knew that and forgot to put an emoticon next to the Next Year:)

Looks like a lot of the Triumph passengers are lawyering up. Someone is going to get a piece of the Miami Heat?

maryrose

daddy:
I agree with your daughter. Scarlett was always high maintenance but Rhett always loved her for her high spirits and her droll sense of humor. She, like him, would not let the war get in the way of pursuing wealth and happiness. Plus,despite it all she did help Melanie and I think Rhett valued Melanie's opinion.Rhett had his own checkered past which Scarlett accepted. She dis love her little girl.
'I took an astronomy class last year and learned all about asteroids and comets and meterorites. They are unpredictable and could hit us at anytime when pieces fall off.The picture from Russia looks typical.How badly injured were the people near it?

NK

jimmyk@251-- Putin-- Putin is a Russian nationalist Emperor, not a commie. He's a Tsar in all but 'devine right' title. So he's a big Russian Orthodox Church supporter, in form anyway. Like their Serb cousins, the Russian Orthodox mantra is that they saved the Christian Motherland from the invading Muslim horde- so Putin is a big 'God' dropper in public. Who knows, he may even be sincere.

Threadkiller

Obama: The Problem Is I'm President And Not Emperor Of The United States

http://youtu.be/wz5YDO4H0Kk

Jane - snowed in

LOL Beasts! I wasn't worried cause you reassured me. (Glad I don't live in Russia!)

maryrose

NK:
All we need to know about Putin is that he is a former KGB guy. I never trust them fully.He can mention God but communism was the opponent of Christian faith in the occupied countries.

Thomas Collins

Scarlett and Rhett? Second tier on-screen couple in comparison with GW and Katherine McLintock! If you're going to do the on-screen couple analysis thing, do it with a real man/woman romance!

Excuse me while I go off the grid into hiding from the Gone With the Wind fans! Is there a federal protection program for those who diss Scarlett and Rhett? :-))

NK

Putin never wanted to be 1st Secretary of the Soviet Communist Party. He wanted to be Emperor. He succeeded-- so he sits atop an oligarchy of crony energy producers, who pay annual tribute to Putin to keep the masses at bay so they can keep their oil/gas billions. It's medieval-- not Marxist.

jimmyk

Fair enough, NK, but I'm sure Putin is as much Russian Orthodox as Barry is Christian. As Maryrose says, his religion is fundamentally KGB.

daddy

I see that Nancy Pelosi is against pay decreases for Congressmen because it would "Undermine The Dignity Of The Job" they do"

Yesterday I heard Lisa Murkowski's Statement that even though she was opposed to Hagel's appointment, she was going to vote for Cloture because she felt it more important "to uphold Senate Tradition" than to let an unqualified imbecile become our Secretary of Defense.

Wouldn't it be nice to have some Legislators who had, as their top priority, doing what was best for the country, rather than worrying about preserving "the Dignity" and "The Traditions" of their frickin' Congressional jobs. Seems to me that somehow they got it backward.

maryrose

We know that Putin pulls all the strings.
He won't let Russia go down the tubes again. I agree about the energy statement made. Also Russia has no problem drilling near The Arctic as daddy has informed us. We look like schmucks because the environmentalists prevent any oil exploration.

NK

Putin prays in the temple of POLITICAL POWER (as does Barry.) And yes the KGB was more about power and control than the Proletariat. I sense a common theme here--
Putin, Barry and that 'flexibility' after elections.

maryrose

daddy: I am embarassed by the ignorance of Pelosi and Murkowski. They give women a bad name when they make bubble-headed, fluff chick comments like that.They sound like ditsy dames.

Jane - snowed in

"Is there a federal protection program for those who diss Scarlett and Rhett? :-))"

I'm in. The only thing I remember about that movie is it was the first movie I ever hated.

AliceH

I'll hide out with you, TC. I'm not a fan of the book, though I wanted to like it. I tried to watch the movie - ugh.

The historical elements of it were very interesting and (I think) well done, but I always struggle with fictional works where I dislike every single character.

maryrose

Jane:
For pageantry alone it is an American classic.The acting phenomenal.One of my favorites, but then I love period drama.

maryrose

AliceH
Even Melanie and Aunt Pitty-Pat?

AliceH

Sorry, maryrose. Melanie was barely a two-dimensional figure and I didn't find her interesting or believable. I don't remember Aunt Pitty-Pat.

De gustibus non est disputandum.

Jane - The media sucks

So has Jesse Jackson been sentenced - it's pretty late in the day.

Jane - The media sucks

"For pageantry alone it is an American classic.The acting phenomenal."

That's nice. I still hated it.

NK

I don't like or dislike GWTW -- it just IS. It's an American classic (it is odd to see Red Skeleton and George Reeves as Scarlet suitors in the BBQ scene).

Barbara

I think Rhett was done with her love-wise for final. Anyone out there think otherwise?

The final straw was when he saw Scarlett go to comfort Ashley after his wife died. Rhett Butler just couldn't take the hurt anymore. The continued betrayal of his wife plus the loss of his daughter were too much.

But did he still love Scarlett? Yes, I think he did. That's why he had to leave.

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Re: the oncoming asteroid and the meteor hit, perhaps the Mayan calendar was off just a tad and {{THE END}} is still looming on the horizon. :)

Rob Crawford

An interesting bit of history. OK, interesting to me, as I grew up a stone's throw from Hamersville.

James D.

I am embarassed by the ignorance of Pelosi and Murkowski. They give women a bad name

I'd substitute "homo sapiens" for "women" (although that's probably debatable, now I come to think about it...)

NK

I really don't believe in collective guilt. Pelosi/Murkowski own their own stupidities and crass power cravings. It doesn't reflect on other women. Now, OTOH, millions of women voting against their interests for Liberal Dems, that warrants repeal of the 19th Amendment.

Jane - Mock the Media!

Uh oh!


Residents of a locality ‘in the central region of Cuba said they had seen an object that fell from the sky and exploded with a great noise, which shook the houses of the place: it is learned from testimonies collected by local television.

In a report released this morning by Rodas, town in the province of Cienfuegos, witnesses described a very bright light that has come to have large size, comparable to that of a bus, before exploding in the sky.

daddy

I am embarassed by the ignorance of Pelosi and Murkowski.

Well I guess if the choice was between Pelosi, Murkowski, or Scarlett, Rhett'd go back to the latter.

Off with the dogs now, but I leave you with I think my favorite Polar Bear Update of all time:

Russian Polar Bear Club

Frau Vom Winde Verweht

It's just somethin' ah saw in a window and ah couldn't resist.

Frau Vom Winde Verweht

Rob @3:42 -thanks for the Hamer update.

narciso

Volodya is a czar in all but crown, he presents himself as Peter the Great, but he's more like
odd numbered Alexanders, saw 'good day to die
hard', don't know what people are complaining about, it's an action film, not Proust.

Rob Crawford
Rob @3:42 -thanks for the Hamer update.

I always figured the eponymous "Hamer" was just some local farmer or merchant...

NK

Narc@518-- yep that's Brother Vlad-- he sees himself as a 21st Century Peter the Great, except with Petro-NatGasDollars... I mean PetroGOLD... instead of a peasant army.

narciso

It may be the fact that they are legacies have a little to do with it, Nancy D'assandro, and the
heir to a Duchy of Anchorage,

Bear belly flop.

Betcha he got a bloody nose, daddy.
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