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Gus

Glitches and Bumps. Was Opie Von Jugears talking about the Constitution?

steve

The way Obamacare was written, more people would be negatively affected than those who benefited. Like every government entitlement program, the benefits would accrue to a relative few (ex. those pre-conditioned out of being able to afford coverage) at the expense of the masses (those who have coverage who will pay more/get less as a result of having to fund benefits paid to the minority).

It's hard to imagine that Obama is just learning of this. I think it's much more likely that he always knew and didn't care that most people were going to be screwed... and a willing media helped him keep those people in the dark.

maryrose

Any bill that passes with 51 votes and no republican support is dicey and unworkable. The individual states were ignored and that is why they sued Obama. They are not going to fold now and I hope this sinks in eventually to these asshats in the WH. You can't rule by ordering people to accept sonething that is harmful to them and more expensive. All congress critters, especially those like Landrieu who voted for this after being bribed should pay through the nose like the rest of us. No special waivers for ANYBODY.

Gus

Steve, Obama is a Marxist. He is on tape saying that it will take 10 or 15 years to make it SINGLE PAYER. But the MFM hasn't reported it.
To wit.
"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That's what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we've got to take back the White House, we've got to take back the Senate, and we've got to take back the House."

Danube of Thought

One thing is absolutely certain: whole hordes of journalists will be on the prowl, ferreting out those stories that will demonstrate how so-and-so was saved by Obamacare.

Threadkiller

Hey remember when the White House said they weren't concerned about possibly misleading the American people about Benghazi?

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/11/white-house-not-concerned-about-misleading-people.html

His Obamacare nuance in no surprise.

Kevin B
“And that’s pretty much true of every government program that’s ever been set up.”

Yes it is. So FFS stop setting the useless carp up and let the freaking market work!!!!

matt

Maybe he should institute a barefoot doctors program like Castro.

Clarice

Why isn't every Republican stating every day --so even the LIV voters who don't even know this is law--announcing that not a single one voted for it, that it will raise costs and taxes and hurt millions of people? WHY?

Gus

Clarice, I don't know what RIGHT WING non-news outlet you get your info from, but OBAMACARE is going to lower costs, lower family premiums by $2,500.00 @ year, it is going to lower the deficit by trillions, and you get to keep your doctor.

WE WERE ACTUALLY FED THAT BULLSHIT, and the MFM sold it.

Old Lurker

Because they stupid, Clarice?

Do I win?

matt

"We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as definitive and has as its highest value one’s own ego and one’s own desires."

Pope Benedict

Threadkiller

Consent decree, Clarice.

hit and run

“Even if we do everything perfectly, there will still be, you know, glitches and bumps...And that’s pretty much true of every government program that’s ever been set up.”

I got that glitch a government program. Glitches love government programs.

anonamom

Matt, let me assure you, the barefoot doctors are already there.

Nurse practioners, pharmacists, and physician assistants are going to be given the right to practice medicine with a stroke of a pen, just as happened in Massachusetts recently.
In MA, the word PHYSICIAN in the Romneycare legislation was lined through and replaced with the word PROVIDERS, and those folks became the providers.
There are not enough physicians on the continent, let alone this country, to fullfil the demand.

Gus

Oh!! So you in Obamacare, you get to keep your own PHARMACIST!!!

Clarice

Every damned day they should be yelling--we HA NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS DISASTER.

Any day now, I expect Obama to be claiming Reid and Pelosi stabbed him in the back with this law.

Clarice

*HAD * nothing to do

matt

"Let's be clear," said Carney. "Benghazi happened a long time ago. We are unaware of any agency blocking an employee who would like to appear before Congress to provide information related to Benghazi."

History is hard.

So the Repubs say they have sensational evidence. How many times has that worked out?

I was very disappointed with Issa's fizzling firecracker on F&F.

peter

The premiums unexpectedly rose.

Gus

Matt, libtards are unaware of any of the cover ups. Fast and Furious means nothing to them.
Benghazi was just a GLITCH of BUMP.

Threadkiller

A long time ago?

Was it before or after Romney put a dog on his car's roof?

Threadkiller

Was it before or after Bush wrecked everything?

maryrose

matt:
Then my response to Carney would have been the following
" So you and the Obama Administration are fine with all the survivors coming forward now and telling the American people Exactly what transpired? There will not be a loss of a job as Holder has intimated and no whistleblower ramifications? You guys in the WH are fully on board with complete transparency.
My next question would be: " I have here in my hand{kinda of like Candy Crowley had at the 2nd debate} a memo signed by SOS Hillary Clinton drawing down personnel from Benghazi. What is your info on this and why was she not forthcoming when asked about her knowledge at both the Senate and the House hearings?

henry

kinda of like Candy Crowley had at the 2nd debateMcCarthy at the HUAC hearings. Unfortunately we need to think about the narrative. :(

Old Lurker

Was it before Bush cheated the National Guard on his hours?

Thomas Collins
"Benghazi happened a long time ago."

It's like that old US Constitution. Time to move on from both. Just ask Ezra Klein.

Gus

I was only a 8 years old when Bill Ayers blew up various building and had his WEATHERMEN murder several Americans.
On the other hand, I was 8 years old and living in Indonesia, which qualifies me as an expert on American-Muzztard relations.

Obama is a clown.

MarkO

To quote the smartest man ever to be President, “This stuff is hard.”

OK. Make your naughty Jason Collins jokes if you wish, but I'm suggesting that TM change his "Following the arc" subtitle to "This stuff is hard." It's just too, too good.

Then again, Obama's just not that smart.

James D.

matt @ 2:32 - the Pope is wrong. We're not "moving towards" the dictatorship of relativism.

We're already there.

Rob Crawford
Obama is a clown.

Clowns are fired if they fail to perform.

AliceH

--We're not "moving towards" the dictatorship of relativism.

We're already there.--

Spoken like a true absolutist. ;)

MarkO

Tapper makes some interesting points about the new arrestees. For example:

"Kadyrbayev also found a jar of Vaseline in the room and told Tazhayakov that he believed Tsarnaev had used the Vaseline to “make a bomb.”

Question: Who sees Vaseline and thinks, “Oh, that must have been used to make a bomb?” (In a footnote we’re told that about one month before the bombing, Tsarnaev had told the two Kazakh students that “he knew how to make a bomb.” Was that part of it?)"


http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/01/3-outstanding-questions-from-the-criminal-complaint-against-new-boston-suspects/

Rob Crawford

I dunno, MarkO, if a friend asked me to help get rid of some "incriminating" stuff from his place, I'd be sure the Vaseline went into the trash.

I'd put on gloves first, though.

James D.

Another response for soulless, lying weasel Carney:

"Your administration implements and enforces thousands of strict liability or zero tolerance laws in a huge number of areas, that apply to all the citizens of this country.

When citizens run afoul of them, even unintentionally or unknowingly, can be fined or imprisoned, can have their livelihoods destroyed and their lives and those of their families turned upside-down. Why shouldn't your administration and everyone in it be held to the same standards that it holds the citizenry to?"

MarkO

Thanks, Rob. But, where, I ask, does Jason Collins fit in? Obama knows.

Duh Gus Gus

Hey Clarice, how do you distinguish between "trolls" and JOMers, a.k.a., crackpots? Maybe TM is discouraging you crackpots from posting here, and encouraging trolls as a [much] better class of people to post here, ya think? ;)

Gus

Rob, Obama is performing.

Melinda Romanoff

The Brhianna of political commentary punches in for payola.

NK

I agree with Gus-- the dead job market, 7M people dropping out of the labor market, 48M people on 'SNAP-Stamps' handing out Medicaid to illegals, frustrating oil/nat gas drilling, the devalued purchasing power of the Dollar, ObummerCare forcing Drs out of medical practice -- these are all features for the Socialist Obummer, not bugs.

NK

Dana gets paid to post shite like that? Jeez.

Duh Gus Gus

You made my point, Melinda. Thanks, lamebrain. :)

daddy

Just caught hour one of today's Dennis Miller Show during the dog walk. His guest for the last segment was Reince Priebus. It was painful to listen to but absolutely beneficial and honest.

Priebus came across as a mild mannered, totally uninspiring spokesman for the Republican Party, and tho' you can tell that Dennis likes and admires Reince's commitment and effort and heart, Dennis's dissatisfaction with the message and the messaging and the messenger was blatantly obvious. Dennis would stop Reince as he would explain some program they are thinking of instituting and say "No, don't say it that way because you'll alienate half of America saying it that way and play into the hands of the Dem's , so say it this way", and then go off on some great rff that he had obviously thought long and hard about, and Reince would respond, "Golly, that sounds good, my Communications Director sitting next to me is nodding her head about how good that sounds...Maybe we'll consider instituting something like that."

By the end you just felt Dennis's helplessness, saying during the segment and also after Reince left, how hard he has tried to get the brain-trust over there to invite him over to share his ideas, but they refuse to do so, so he is left simply turning his great, inspiring, witty and very motivational ideas into quips he uses on O'Reilly or his radio show, and agonizing about why the heck does Reince need some nodding Communications Director at all?---He's the guy---he ought to have this stuff at the tip of his tongue for Gosh sakes and be inspiring us, into of mindlessly droning on for 2 minutes about how many Hispanics they just hired at the RNC, in some vague indefinable hope that simply hiring Hispanics will accomplish something.

I see Dennis watching Priebus almost as a Student Driver on the Highway and Dennis praying "For Gawd's sakes would you please let me take the wheel and save us from this imminent car wreck you are
driving us towards. Painful but so honest and so on point.

And FWIW Rush's program totally stunk.

Rob Crawford
Rob, Obama is performing.

Poorly.

Old Lurker

"Rob, Obama is performing.Poorly."

Because the FBI took the Vaseline away?

Sorry.

Rob Crawford

Could be, OL, could be.

Appalled on iPhone

Rob:

What makes you think Obama is performing the clown function poorly?

narciso

I have to admit, the Saudi warning threw me for a bit of a loop, Prince Nayef notwithstanding,
he probably brought the message on his won, in the winter because he knows now, it' pointless to tell Brennan. he'll leak it to Clarke and Townsend.

daddy

And this one is just unbelievable:

Woman whose aborted baby's foot 'was found stashed in refrigerator at House of Horrors clinic' reveals her terrifying ordeal as the prosecution rests in doctor (Gosnell's) case.

Then you see the jar full of baby feet. And then the sad woman on the couch, telling us that 3 years after the fact the Police call up and say something like "Hey, we've got your aborted baby's foot."

No one apart from her mother knew of the abortion for three years - until she received a call from Philadelphia detectives, telling her that Dr Gosnell was being investigated for horrors at the clinic.
It was then that she learned her baby's foot had been found in a fridge at the clinic...

'I remember him picking up something and walking out the room.'..

'You don't even know how to respond when you find a human has kept a foot of your baby,' she told the film project. 'You don't know how to answer that. You just want to cry. You just don't want to believe it and I still don't.'

Dr Gosnell is one sick son of a bitch. I am almost surprised he didn't take those souvenir feet and embalm them like rabbits feet on little key chains with his work phone number, so that he could give them out to his patients so they could show them around as advertisements to drum up business for himself.

To keep jars of aborted baby feet is close to as gruesome as the Japanese in WW2 tossing babies on their bayonets in The Rape of Nanking, or the Nazi's making lampshades from their Jewish victims. I don't even know if there is a difference, except in numbers.


narciso

I don't know why you were concerned, daddy;


Kris Anderson returns to the RNC following his most recent period serving as the Research Director on the Romney for President campaign. Prior to joining the Romney campaign, Kris was the Research Director and Deputy Communications Director on Jon Huntsman’s presidential campaign, Director of Strategic Communications for House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy and served in senior roles on multiple statewide campaigns. During the 2008 election cycle, Kris served as a Senior Research Analyst at the Republican National Committee.

MarkO

daddy, the only word to describe this behavior is evil.

narciso

Sorry, thar was the deputy communications director,

So, this is footage from the cam at the complex;

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/05/01/fbi_posts_wanted_photos_for_benghazi_attack?wp_login_redirect=0

Rob Crawford
What makes you think Obama is performing the clown function poorly?

I see no one laughing, and his make-up doesn't suggest he's supposed to be a tragic clown.

Melinda Romanoff

NK, this troll is too smart, too savvy, too well educated and way, WAY too sexy to be Dana.

Jack is Back

"The Glitch Who Stole Health Care"
by Doctor Guess Who

Every LIV down in Liville liked their healthcare a lot,
But the Glitch, who lived just South of Liville between Maryland and Virginia, did not.
The Glitch hated healthcare — the whole medical ideal.
Oh, please don't ask why, no one quite knows the reason.
It could be, perhaps, that his pants crease was too sharp.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
But I think that the most likely reason of all
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small and his ego oversized.

And what happened then...? Well...in Liville they say
That the Glitch's small heart grew three sizes that day!
And then the true meaning of healthcare came through,
And the Glitch found the strength of ten Glitches… plus two.

Welcome, reform, bring your cheer.
Cheer to all LIVs far and near.
Healthcare Reform Day is in our grasp
So long as we have hands to clasp.
Healthcare Reform Day will always be
Just as long as we have we.
Welcome, reform, while we stand
Heart to heart,... and hearts in hand

* You're a mean one, Mr. Glitch.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as an eel.
Mr. Glitch!
You're a bad banana with a...greasy black peel!

* You're a foul one, Mr. Glitch.
You're a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks, your soul is full of gunk.
Mr. Glitch!

The three words that best describe you are as follows and I quote:

"Stink! Stank! Stunk!"

NK

@454: alright then... send... more..sexy...trolls!

daddy

Narciso,

It really was sad hearing that segment today of the Dennis Miller show. You can tell Dennis's heart is breaking for this country. On "the nodding RNC Communications Director" he went off in exasperation, likening it to some team of Movie Producers at Cannes, sitting around discussing nuances of some stupidly unimportant sequel to some innocuous movie script.

Miller is as talented a mind as we've got on our side, not wonky policy stuff, but on the communication of big ideas side, which can grip and grab and motivate, and like chainsaws wielded with the finesse of surgical instruments, can lay bare the vapidity of the Left's positions. Yet we don't use him, and instead expect that 100 hired Hispanics will do the trick---their message, if we come up with one, to be figured out later.

MarkO,

I never read Dante', but sawing off feet of aborted babies and keeping them as souvenirs in Mason jars is like something I would expect to meet up with in the depths of the lowest levels of Hell. T'is hard to imagine a more malignant act personifying the essence of evil.

NK

Howie Carr does some arithmatic on the Family Tsar tab that WE paid for, while the Bros were gearing up to mass murder and maim-- just lovely-- and Rubio wants to bring in 30M more and put them on the dole,just like this crew: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/howie_carr/2013/04/carr_tsarnaevs_tab_just_the_beginning

Gus

My Communications Director sitting right next to me is nodding.


GUILTY!!!!

Melinda Romanoff

JiB, you have too much free time on your hands. Get a job.

MarkO

daddy, all the work put in by scholars and thinkers trying to understand Hitler could well be used on Gosnell. But, it would be with the same result, it is beyond understanding.

Rob Crawford
Possible Human Trafficking Investigation at Saudi Diplomatic Compound in Virginia.

Or, as the informed say, "it's Wednesday". For some reason, when I hear "Saudi", I assume "slaver".

daddy

Got to go to work soon, but one other thing I heard at a news break on probably ABC radio news struck me as crazy.

Rush was already harping about some new poll shows that 42 percent of Americans don't know that ObamaCare is Law.

Well the new poll stated on the top of the hour was about the Senate Immigration Bill. It said that an ABC/NBC/CBS (whichever one) poll of 1000 Americans revealed that X percent did like it and X percent didn't like it and that very few respondents thought that the new revelations of the Boston Bombers immigration snafu's should be considered in the Senate's Immigration Bill.

Then it said tho', that the Dem's had some work still to do because only 3 in 10 Americans were familiar with the details of the Senate's Immigration Bill.

That struck me as reminiscent of AliceH's great comment yesterday:

I would like Issa to subpoena every journalist who contends all Benghazi questions have already been answered -- let's see what they know!

Who knows the particulars of the Senate's Immigration 844 page Bill that was revealed, what yesterday or the day before? Do any of the Senators? Hell no.

Do any Congressman or the President or the News Media? Hell no.

Has anybody in America even read the 844 page damn thing thru? Hell no.

So how the hell can the ABC/NBC/CBS radio news that tells us just over 4 in 10 Americans don't even know that the 2-3 year old ObamaCare is the Law of the Land, now tell me that 3 in 10 American's know the particulars of an 844 page Immigration Bill that's been out been out in public for a shorter time than that Gay Basketball Player?

I was screaming so loud at that one that the moose could have heard me down on the Kenai!

Apologies for my rants. Never even had a chance to read the threads today.

narciso

That Al Turki chap was involved in this, anyways I had occasion to read Carlos Slim's chimps handiwork, particulatly Scott Shane's account of the press conference, and my paisan Liz Alvarez being herself,

Jack is Back

narciso,

I saw Julia Koch today in the village and should have asked her if her dad really wanted to get his hands dirty by buying the Trib companies. She was too damn busy eating the famous crab cakes at Silvers. But if I was 30 again....who knows:)

Dave made good - not bad for a MIT guy.

Porchlight

'You don't even know how to respond when you find a human has kept a foot of your baby,' she told the film project.

Wait, she thought it was a baby? She paid him to kill her baby but for him to keep its foot, that's just over the line?

NK

Daddy-- keep the rant up. Even in rant mode you make far more sense than any of the grifters in DC.

MarkO

Porch, the closer one looks at this, the worse it is.

narciso

I know daddy, it's hard not to go fully 'Howard Beale' with this, if necessary act like the Great Ahmet Khan, of the Ecumenical Liberation Front.

lyle

OT, but does anyone but me think the name of the scam, Pigford, is oddly apropos?

Oh, and white dudes need not apply.

Porchlight

Yes, MarkO.

DoT on iPad

"Possible Human Trafficking Investigation at Saudi Diplomatic Compound in Virginia."

And we find that there has been such trafficking, boy will those Saudis be made to pay!

Jack is Back

Even if I was an atheist and pro-choice, I would have to be the most cold-blooded, heartless individual to perform an abortion. How the hell do these people even sleep at night? Probably after 3 or 4 birdbath martinis.

Old Lurker

My partner (no not that kind of partner)is in town for some big to-do at Quantico (so I vouch that we can trust HIS politics), but for sins in his past he remains good friends with some major money Dems who always entertain him when he comes to DC. He reports that every single one of these Dem power brokers is surprised and embarrassed at the depth of evil and ability to destroy that is the Obama they put in place, and he is certain several of them even voted against Obama this time.

This encourages him but he is saddened that the Reps are so singularly incompetent that they cannot drive a Mack Truck through the weakness in the Dem lines. Narc's and Daddy's posts above are perfect evidence of our ability to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

As my pal says "a curse on all their houses".

MarkO

OL, I like "pox," in that construction.

Old Lurker

I accept your friendly change Mark and note the outcome of yours is more swift and certain than mine...

lyle

He reports that every single one of these Dem power brokers is surprised and embarrassed at the depth of evil and ability to destroy that is the Obama they put in place, and he is certain several of them even voted against Obama this time.

Huh. All of us rubes could see in '08 what the cognoscenti couldn't. Fascinating.

narciso

Well they don't want to fracking fight, OL, except for the likes of Cruz and Paul, and a handful of others, Compare those gelatinous ungulates, with the brave but somewhat deluded opposition, that got the tar beat out of them, yesterday in Caracas.

Old Lurker

Good choice of words, Narc. They don't even want to fricken defend Fracking...though as Mel reports above those gas fields have doubled in recoverable energy.

NK

OL-- Bakken CRUDE OIL estimate doubled-- natgas TRIPLED: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/30/usa-energy-bakken-idUSL2N0DH26020130430

Soothsayer

You can take the savage out of the jungle. But you can't take the jungle out of the savage. To that mean malevolent jungle bunny, Goznell, its a trophy, no different than a rabbit's foot.

NK

Gosnell's barbarism-- just inexplicable-- it was Dr Mengele or Japanese Army Unit 731 level barbarity. Just inexplicable to me.

Ignatz

--Glitches and Bumps. Was Opie Von Jugears talking about the Constitution?--

I think he was talking about us.
Bound to be a lot of bumps in the road for the under-the-bus-thrower-in-chief.
A couple hundred million or so.

Ignatz

Eff off, soothsayer.

daddy

He is not a jungle bunny Soothsayer and you should not say that and get the hell out of heer you POS with that language.

Gosnell is an evil human engaged in doing evil. Period.

I dissociate myself and decent JOMer's from the poster at 05:53.

maryrose

In Ohio the cost of a high blood pressure drug just went up 15 dollars from 2 months ago. Well that's one less movie I go to or one less inexpensive lunch!

narciso

No, George Tiller, was another vicious nazgul, protected by his patron, Gov. Sibelius, from prosecution or even regulation.

Jack is Back

Bakken can triple but you need to get it out delivered. Without Keystone, your stuck with rail or my plan for flying it out on a wing and prayer:)

But since it is domestic and not international will someone like the Koch's or Williams' decide to try for a dedicated pipeline from ND to either a great lake terminus or further south to Texas or Oklahoma?

Good luck with this regime. Ain't gonna happen.

henry

Ohio and Wisconsin, just a coincidence that both states took on public workers unions when Obamacare was rammed through.

lyle

To that mean malevolent jungle bunny, Goznell, its a trophy, no different than a rabbit's foot.

Was that really necessary? One can revulse to the horror of this barbary without ethnic slurs, can't one?


Extraneus

The Dems use their power to slow down air traffic in response to the measly sequester. Insty suggests that air-traffic controllers could and should be privatized, as Canada has done.

Dems in California are threatening to withdraw pension fund investments from the L.A. Times if the dreaded Koch brothers buy the newspaper.

Etc.

It's a question that answers itself to ask: What will they do with control of national health care?

NK

@5:53 is a disgusting Troll. Vomitous.

Ignatz

Soothsayer got me so upset that I wet my diaper.

NK

Ig-- thought of you last Sunday on I-95 Ct-- saw a restored "Duster 340"-- was that a "Hemi" muscle car back in the day?

Ignatz

Poor little Evil Anne. Reduced to feckless sock puppeting once someone called her tiny little bluff.

Rick Ballard

"I don't even know if there is a difference, except in numbers."

While it's true the Nazis and Japanese were pikers in terms of the American Progressive Genocide Project's 50 million babies and counting, the absolute and complete innocence of those babies butchered in Planned Genocide Death Huts makes the entire Progressive Movement, IMO, much more morally repugnant.

We've completely earned whatever Hell we are going to live through and the Burger Court majority scum earned a much worse eternity.

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