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steve

If he's not the culprit, why would he confess to something he didn't do?

MarkO

Soviet model: He's a high school drop out, unable to do anything; he's crazy, a cross-dressing Little Red Riding Hood; he's a spy.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Cecil Turner on mini pad

TypePad sucks.

I would think the NSA whistleblower coalition is still the odds on favorite.

Charlie (Colorado)

I've been trying to write a story on this stuff for a week and it doesn't slow down long enough. I'll have a story up on the NSA stuff shortly and Snowdon in a day or two.

tollhouse

This is a tactic to devalue any additional information before it gets released. I doubt it will work.

We have top men working on this.

Danube on iPad

Very eager to read Chaco's assessment.

rich@gmu

MarkO-

DOOM!!!

But he did do a good job of getting the IRS story of the front page.

matt

They have very effectively used the "look squirrel" option. The MSM have forgotten about the FBI scandal and the IRS scandal and the Benghazi scandal.

Did you hear that CBS News confirmed that Sharyl Attkison's computer was hacked multiple times? Or that Not one of the Tea Party organizations have yet been contacted by the FBI?

Gus

the ISSUE is not whether Snowden is a spy a leaker or an ass hole. The issue is OBAMA spying on the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
Getting in our face.
Punishing his enemies.
If any of you actually give a flying FUCK about Snowden, you need to sit down and watch American idol. WTF is wrong with us?

Captain Hate

Very eager to read Chaco's assessment.

Me too but like he said, it's like trying to catch smoke.

Yes matt; amazing how those stories have just vanished like Carville predicted.

centralcal

Well, since you put it that way, I agree with you Gus :)

Gus

Centralcal, we bitch piss and moan about the Media ditching the real issues, and here we are going right along with them. Snowden isn't the fucking issue. Our governments corruption is. This is like ignoring SANDY HOOK because the O.J. trial is on t.v.. The only issue vis a vis Snowden, is OUR GOVERNMENT spying on us. I don't care if Porky fucking Pig was the person who told us. We know, and we don't care, we care about our new celebrity.

Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version)

Modern-day Federalists like Rogers use the word 'traitor' with a little too much frequency and little salt for seasoning.

AliceH

I was unable to find much in the way of NSA stories on the front pages. If anything has knocked anything off the front page, it's Syria.

My quick and dirty review of today's front pages:
LATimes: Young Males face pressure over body image (also Syria, Supreme Court Gene ruling)
BostonGlobe: Supreme Ct Gene ruling, Syria, FBI-Bostonbombing lapse
ChicagoTrib: City targets gang leaders, Syria, hockey
NYT: Syria, Supreme Ct gene ruling, Immigration bill, Yahoo/NSA data
WashingtonPost: Syria, Obama to Africa, SC Genes ruling, FDA something

Couldn't figure out how to look at actual front page images from last week, so I don't know whether the IRS story was most prominent or not. I get all my news online.

Rick Ballard

Gus,

Would you mind toning down the language? It adds nothing and makes following comments more difficult for those whose screens may be occasionally monitored by bosses or children.

OhioRiver

@TypePad sucks I agree with you that Snowden is for real cause he's exposing systems that were not known just months ago that the NSA would not dare reveal.

Finally!! Someone is doing something. There's 2 veterans (1 is a 65 yr old Vietnam vet & a Gulf War I) walking across America in support of the US Constitution.

www.WalkDaddyWalk.com

We see people in Turkey/Greece/Spain etc protesting their govts. & now we have these veterans protesting in the streets (or highway) fm San Diego to D.C.

They are carrying the American flag with each step they are walking & passing out pamphlets of the US Constitution to people so I know they need any donations.

I support them & all of us need to support them. Of course, the MSM isn't picking up this human interest story of the old veteran so I hope someone can break this story as we need American heroes.

Rick Ballard

AliceH,

Syria was a top story in the UK and Italy this morning as well. The UK papers were supportive of Obama's actions while all the major Italian papers gave the Russian's "It's a lie." (re Sarin) statements equal billing.

MarkO

Why, exactly, should the story of Big Brother spying on all of us in unimaginable ways go to the back of the media bus?

Politics?

daddy

Good Morning.

Running a little behind schedule this morning and need to catch up quick. If someone has a free moment can you please advise me (via using A, B, C, etc), who has lied to us so far today.

A) FBI
B) IRS
C) NSA
D) Jay Carney
E) State Department
F) White House
G) Congress (Dems)
H) Congress (Repubs)
I) MSM
J) All of the above

Thanks in advance:)

henry

K) Door number 3.

Zerohedge had an article up saying pretty much every company in the US is sharing info or tech specs with the intel community. It is the secret handshake of the crony in crowd.

daddy

Thanks Hank!

4JackisBack!2

Just read that Bill and Hill are looking to buy in Easthampton. Want something in the $10 to 15 million range. Have been renting on Lily Pond Lane.

Well, there goes the neighborhood. Won't be seeing them on the bench in front of the old Dreissens donut shop, I guess.

See what investing cattle futures can getcha?

AliceH

via CoalitionoftheSwilling.net - very funny video. No profanity - gratuitous or otherwise. Just a funny idea, brilliantly executed.

It's Not About The Nail

henry

Detroit to stiff bondholders ($2.5 billion per Breitbart).

Old Lurker

Thanks Rick

jimmyk

Link for henry's 1:45

http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/DA6TK8FO1

The details will be interesting, and maybe precedent-setting: Will (union) pensioners take a haircut? How much?

daddy

Funny video AliceH:)

You wonder how folks come up with such ideas.

James D.

I'm curious. Does anyone here think that:

1. Zero and his gang have an actual goal or desired end-state in mind with regard to Syria?

2. If so, do the plans that are currently being drawn up/discussed have any likelihood of achieving that goal?

3. If so, does that goal actually benefit in any way our national security?

I've got a pretty good idea as to the answers...

Clarice

test. test. test. what the heck is wrong?

Clarice

Test. Attkisson story very disturbing.

daddy

Me too Clarice. test:(

Clarice

Test. Greenwald atMarxism conference go to CIF dot com.

Clarice

test. I guess the problem is trying to link urls.

DrJ

jimmyk,

City [Detroit] employee pensions and retiree health care would also be trimmed. Unfunded retiree pension and benefit obligations of about $9 billion would be cut to less than 10 cents on the dollar under the proposal.
centralcal

Clarice, I have noticed that my comments that contain certain words will not go through (even links that contain the words). If I remove the word I can comment just fine. Yesterday, the censored word was st*lin.

Clarice

test from the cif story:Conclusion:
"As I argued recently, Greenwald is not a mere civil libertarian or a ‘progressive’ commentator but, rather, a radical, anti-American activist, who aids our enemies by amplifying their toxic rhetoric.

Whatever may come from the debate currently underway about NSA surveillance techniques, we can not let those, like Greenwald, inspired by a palpable loathing of America, frame the debate concerning how best to defend the country against reactionary Islamists, extremists diametrically opposed to our values and openly committed to the murder of our citizens."

centralcal

And yes, the asterisk is in place for an A and I didn't capitalize the S.

Clarice

today the word seems to be M*rxiam.

daddy

test

daddy

E) State Department

Megyn Kelly just did a segment explaining how Hillary Clinton's State Department lied about rapes or attempted rapes in their Beirut Department, and that a woman who came forward as a whistleblower is being squashed as a result.

"Whistle-blower Aurelia Fedenisn says State Department investigators threatened to prosecute her for providing documents to U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz."

Can't link.

Captain Hate

Stalin

centralcal

CH: smarty pants. There went my theory - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Captain Hate

Stalin-Rodham lying about a rape? Where have I heard that before?

Captain Hate

cc, nobody is more shocked than I am that my crummy laptop is working fine on this garbage software.

Clarice

test. Do we really need a multi billion dollar spy system when (a) even when we have specific info --i,e,, the Boston bombers--it is allowed to slip thru our fingers? and (b) when Obama whose now providing military support to the AQ linked Syrian rebels has sided with our enemies everywhere? I mean why give them military aid and then pretend we have to listen in on them? Is it just me?

centralcal

Well, I did say that Stalin was YESTERDAY'S censored word. So just cuz it is getting through today, doesn't really prove me wrong.

Okay - it probably does. But honest injun, 3 comments in a row that contained that word via a headline and the url link never posted. As soon as I removed the word - voila successful posting (the rest of the day, too).

maryrose

CH;
Lying is a main feature in Hil's repertoire.
She of the vast right- wing conspiracy meme.
When is she going to learn that people "just aren't that into her".
The dems must have someone else to run. She has so much baggage she will surely sink their ship.
Benghazi remains her Achilles heel. Kudos to whomever can bring her to her knees.
I am going out on a limb to say a State dept. person hacked Atkisson's computer to find out what she knew about Benghazi.
Rape and predatory behavior seem ripe in that Department. It is corrupt through and through and the minions took their cue from Hil.

daddy

Another Letter K) Henry,

Jerry Willis on Megyn's Show is saying that the United Way is intentionally sitting on Millions in Donations that are supposed to go to the families of the Newtown Shootings. She smells a big rat in the United Way and does not trust their excuses, especially when compared to how similar donations have been paid out to the Boston Marathon Bomb victims, and that bombing happened well after the Newtown Shootings.

henry

daddy, that is their typical bonus pool scam.

Clarice

Is it just me or do the Newtown parents insisting that gun control legislation be passed when that is not the real issue remind you of Mother Sheehan. What about those people saved because of guns? I'm sick of Oprahized politics.

rich@gmu

MarkO-

because what the nsa might or might not be doing is abstract and distant (that there is enough people and computing power to parse through yottabytes of data...in real time...get real). what the IRS is doing is real and damaging?

Did you know that the IRS had a major technology upgrade over the last 2 years and that they too use datamining tools and social network analysis to spot fraud and tax cheats, which explains the oddball questionnaires that the targeted groups had to answer. It is a pretty short drive from that to harassment and extortion. If the NSA has my name on a wall chart that is 10'x10' and contains tens of thousands of names, I'll take my chance that the bad data is chasing out the good. I'm skeptical of the NSA story as it is being reported, Greenwald's involvement in it, and the odd menagerie of characters around it. If the IRS has my name on a 2'x2' wall chart with a gross of other names because I contributed to some cause that an IRS bureaucrat doesn't like I'd like to see the bureaucrat rotting in a jail cell for about 25 years and his (or her) family bankrupted and begging on the streets.

jimmyk

Clarice, it's for the children. Do you hate children?

MarkO

I don't disparage the impact of the IRS corruption and it affects us all seemingly more immediately than NSA.

OTOH, the NSA disaster should warn us that the IRS oppression is merely a subset of the larger danger. The seeming acceptance of the dilution of the 4th Amendment in the name of "war" powers by so many troubles me.

rich@gmu

James D.

No. No. and No. He isn't the SCOAMF for nothing (and I can only imagine what sort of file the Russians have on him).

jimmyk

Well, I did say that Stalin was YESTERDAY'S censored word.

It would be more fun if they did it like Groucho on You Bet Your Life and give out a prize for posting the censoredsecret word of the day.

Yesterday I wasn't able to post the link to the White House page with "Founding Founders," even though I could post any other link I tried. Go figure.

MarkO

It was apparently under the direction of Al Franken.

rse

Lost comment. Trying again

http://techonomy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/How-Far-Can-Innovation-Take-Cities.pdf is about Detroit. Juxtapose with stiffing bondholders.

rse

Clarice-I suggested you could use Uncle Karl's real small c vision as a euphemism.

The M word sure is alive and well in 2013.

rich@gmu

oh blocked again...and I didn't copy the comment before I hit post. it was a brilliant response to MarkO and I probably can't reconstruct it.

daddy

Clarice,

I could not be more turned off by the Newtowners. In any rational world I would and should still feel massive compassion for the family members, but with all the politicking and agenda pushing and moral preening we've been clobbered with on their behalf, I find myself in the bizarre non-compassionate position of hoping I never hear another word from any one of them ever again about how to live my life, and if they continue tugging at my heartstrings and morally scolding me about what rights in our Constitution I ought to give up I feel they can go
straight to hell.

jimmyk

I don't have a problem with stiffing bondholders as long as reforms are put in to stop the bleeding. Part of that is stiffing the pensioners as well, but that won't solve the ongoing deficit. They need to sell assets, fire 25 percent of city employees, and impeach every elected official who took office prior to the current administration. (I'm exempting the current group only because I think Dave Bing is a good guy who came in too late to save the patient.)

Ideally they'd bring in some private equity guys like Romney to clean up the place.

maryrose

The Newton families do remind me of Mother Sheehan. I know they are grieving ,but going political and buying the dems gun baloney is not going to give them peace of mind. Setting up more mental health clinics and providing school counselors with referral people will go much farther in securing their community and making them feel like they've done something for other young students.

Captain Hate

Is it just me or do the Newtown parents insisting that gun control legislation be passed when that is not the real issue remind you of Mother Sheehan.

They've gone from objects of sympathy to full time irritants whom the MFM are using to advance a liberal agenda.

maryrose

The Newton families are being used by this administration and that act is despicable.

Clarice

Thanks. I thought I needed an empathy transfusion.
Losing a child is a horrible thing. Using that to advance a political agenda is wrong.

Captain Hate

Ideally they'd bring in some private equity guys like Romney to clean up the place.

If the GOP in house geniuses weren't engaged in ramming garbage like immigration amnesty down our throats, they'd come up with something just like that. There is almost no risk involved and the good will that would emerge from even modest success would be far greater than any of their usual harebrained schemes. With Romney's background it would be a perfect match.

rse

Now I am losing comments.

http://transitionnewtown.com/ suggests the 2nd Amendment is not the only concept that it is par for the course to be progressive on.

NKonIPad

The Debt Bomb-- it has begun Detroit defaults utterly and completely. The workout specialist called it 45 years of mismanagement. Why thst would coincide precisely with Mayor Coleman Young, one party Dem rule, white flight, then business flight, then black flight.

Newtown-- it s not just them media-- those people are pushing the agenda on their own. My question remains -- if we are looking for root causes, what did that town do to spawn Adam Lanza.

jimmyk

Losing a child is a horrible thing. Using that to advance a political agenda is wrong.

Yes, though I blame the politicians using them even more than the parents themselves.

hit and run

NK, I thought for sure you would tell us what word the Greeks have for it.

jimmyk

CH, there is some risk if it's not handled delicately. The media would play up every sob story of a pensioner having to buy hamburger helper or a fired city employee's having to wear hand-me-downs, and blame the heartless capitalists.

Ideally all the "austerity" would get announced first, then you bring in the Romney types to "save jobs."

Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version)

Adam Lanza was another perfect storm of improperly treated dysfunction masked with psychotropics. The vacuum created by the doping left little to understand rationally.

It's not about gunz, for sure. It's about our failed mental health system which is not much better than it was when Under the Cuckoo's Nest was written/filmed.

NKonIPad

Jimmyk-- the group of parents and the Drunken Dan Malloys and empty suit extraordinaire Sen Murphys are impossible to take for me-- it s really local up here for me (including passing the nice little ole ladies carrying 'the 20 angels are watching the pro gun crowd' signs in downtown Westport this morning.) their crusade is so deluded (Ct had more restrictive laws before Lanza than the ones they are trying to shove through Congress) i am forced to conclude that they are either made senseless by grief or they are in denial of how their haughty town created the monstrous rage in adam lanza. Either way, i have no choice but to ignore the Newtown agenda.

Captain Hate

You might be right, jimmyk, but that city has been such a disaster for so long that I don't think Mitt coming to the rescue, particularly with a standup guy like Bing in place, has that much downside. Maybe I'm being naive but I think the residents of the city have been down so long that they're tired of the same old non solutions. They kicked Kwame's witch mother out of her career long elected job, which puts them ahead of the dumbasses here in Cleveland.

Joan

Someone has probably already said it, but:

"Stalin-Rodham lying about a rape?" Captain Hate.

"What difference does it make now?!!!"

Wow, I actually tried to make a witty, sarcastic comment instead of moaning in a depressive state. :)
Joan

centralcal

Good for you Joan!

Joan

:)

Frau Eulenspiegel

Transition Newtown = the borg. What a wretched outlook for the town and the country.

IMO losing a child does not mean you must lose your mind.

Frau Eulenspiegel

Testing...
Onkel Adolf
Dyadya Joe

(Today is Friday. I'm thinking of you, matt.)

Clarice

Right in time--Taranto's BOTW blog on "pathological altruism"

A sample:
Pathological altruism is at the root of the liberal left's crisis of authority, which we discussed in our May 20 column. The left derives its sense of moral authority from the supposition that its intentions are altruistic and its opponents' are selfish. That sense of moral superiority makes it easy to justify immoral behavior, like slandering critics of President Obama as racist--or using the power of the Internal Revenue Service to suppress them. It seems entirely plausible that the Internal Revenue Service officials who targeted and harassed conservative groups thought they were doing their patriotic duty. If so, what a perfect example of pathological altruism.

Oakley concludes by noting that "during the twentieth century, tens of millions [of] individuals were killed under despotic regimes that rose to power through appeals to altruism." An understanding that altruism can produce great evil as well as good is crucial to the defense of human freedom and dignity.

daddy

Janet,

Thanks for the Breitbart link to that Zuckerberg Funded Immigration Radio Ad, "Americans for a Conservative Direction."

I had heard it on the headsets a few times, but having just read your link, I listened to the end to see who paid for it, and there at the end it was "Paid for by Americans for a Conservative Direction."

Nice calm guitar music, compassionate, polite and friendly voices, telling us that the Bill will do common sense stuff like "Border Security First" (a blatant lie), and that it is supported by such conservatives as Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan.

Of interest, we have a local guy in jail for murder, who we just discovered is an illegal alien, previously deported, but he snuck back in and used someone else's name and identity to get jobs, assistance etc until he got caught for murder. Reminds me of our local Police Officer who was an illegal and who worked for our Anchorage Police Dept as a full time cop, only to be discovered after 8 years that he was an illegal alien who fraudulently used somebody else's name and SSN. He was caught only when he foolishly applied for a Passport and got caught by State Department Computers.

So we almost had a situation where an illegal alien cop arrested an illegal alien murderer, and both were using stolen identities.

If it was in a novel you'd put it down and say "That plot is too stupid. That could never happen."

Janet  --- -... .- -- .- ... ..- -.-. -.- ...

I tell you what...I never want to hear moaning about McCarthyism, the Hollywood blacklist, or Watergate bugging ever again.

This administration is hunting down patriotic Americans, constitution loving citizens, Bible believing Christians & Jews, pro-life people, marriage supporters,...
It has its minions bugging McConnell's office & releasing private divorce info. It is using government agencies to threaten people & to collect info & then give it to leftist groups.
It targets businesses that they label politically incorrect - Chick-fil-A boycotts & the pro-marriage businesses in Calif. during prop 8.

And the uber AGW/"green" people have become the religious fanatics. So closed minded that they are scared if anyone hears another idea that they might not believe the crap they are sellin'.

daddy

Am watching Cavuto and this clip of a Dem Congressman is playing, regarding the stink in DC about their staffers having to comply with ObamaCare:

Rob Andrews (D) 'New Jersey Congresman: "The staff members, the people making 25-30 thousand a year in some cases, should not have to take a huge pay cut relative to other Federal Employees because of the way the Law is written."

Why the Hell not?

Let's check the votes: "Rob Andrews, Democrat of New Jersey, voted for the Affordable Care Act".

Kiss my ass Rob Andrews.

2/4SemperFi1st

daddy, and any other fond denizens of bars, here is a neat bucket list and website.

There are a number of bars in Austin. Wonder if Porch has been to them.

I have been to the Elixir in San Francisco and The Bridge and Fraunces Tavern in New York but that's it for me. Daddy may have the JOM record, lets see:)

NKonIPad

Hit-- it s all Greek to me.

4Jack is Back!2

Here is a blast from the past.

Stephanopolous calling for the asassination of Saddam Hussein in 1997. Plus his involvement in the Travel Office firings. Creepy little dude. No wonder ABC/Disney hired him.

NKonIPad

Daddy en fuego!,

I may not know the Greek word TM alludes to, but the Yiddish word for Rob Andrews is Chutzpah!

I don t like the fact that i lack empathyfor the Newtown people who are politicizing the Lanza madness, i assume you too feel that way. But the way these people are carrying on, it just is.

AliceH

2/4SemperFi1st: The list is pretty much 4 states, with a handful of Chicago thrown in.

When I'm new in town, I go with the "find a bar with a shamrock on the window". I've never been disappointed by an Irish pub.

4Jack is Back!2

NK,

Someone has got to them and convinced them this is the honorable, pain relieving thing to do. People with loss like this are always more susceptible to anything that they believe can make it all go away. Unfortunately, the political hucksters out there have no concern for their pain just their voices to bark their demands.

The two questions that should be asked of all of them is 1) are there any current laws on the books that if they had been enforced could have prevented this tragedy, and, 2) what law do you propose that could, in fact, have prevented this loss of life?

Outside of banning, they can't answer either question.

4Jack is Back!2

AliceH,

They are supposed to be "historic' bars and McSorley's for example is the oldest Irish bar in America but the date of its establishment is still disputed.

Now, since St. Augustine is the Oldest City, I wonder where the first tavern or taberna was located. Maybe its still there but I doubt it since I have been to every dive in the Old City.

MarkO

They lost a child. They get a pass.

Ignatz

Well we know one thing; the NSA, the FBI, the DOJ, the EPA and any other arm of the feds could not have been responsible for accessing Sharyl Atkinson's computer because she says it was "unauthorized" and we already know the federal government is authorized to access every computer on the planet.

4Jack is Back!2

MarkO,

The Gold Star Mothers disagree.

Janet  --- -... .- -- .- ... ..- -.-. -.- ...

My question remains -- if we are looking for root causes, what did that town do to spawn Adam Lanza.

Here NK -

"Does anyone ever ask these people how their lovely little town, and this school administration in particular spawned a monster such as Lanza? What's that-- the towns people are not collectively responsible for the monster Lanza? ... OK... then how is it that these same townspeople can demand that tens of millions of people, some thousands of miles from Lanza, are made to pay a price for his monstrous act?" ~ NK

daddy

I'm outraged!@#$

How come foreign websites have different pictures of the Pole Dancing Ballerina than US websites?

What the hell else is our Government hiding from us?

MarkO

JiB,

They get a pass, too. Here is what they say, and I know it is true.

"No one knows how you feel like another mother who has lost a child."

Corn-fed conservative (southern strategy version)

Naked Capitalism; Snowden's China choice was savvy...

"Today, in a newly published interview in the South China Morning Post, Snowden showed a sample of some of the data he has:

The detailed records – which cannot be independently verified – show specific dates and the IP addresses of computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland hacked by the National Security Agency over a four-year period.

They also include information indicating whether an attack on a computer was ongoing or had been completed, along with an amount of additional operational information.

The small sample data suggests secret and illegal NSA attacks on Hong Kong computers had a success rate of more than 75 per cent, according to the documents. The information only pertains to attacks on civilian computers with no reference to Chinese military operations, Snowden said.

“I don’t know what specific information they were looking for on these machines, only that using technical exploits to gain unauthorised access to civilian machines is a violation of law. It’s ethically dubious,” Snowden said in the interview on Wednesday.

The article consistently uses the word “shown” rather than “given to” with respect to the detailed information, but it’s a safe bet that US outlets will depict him as having handed documents over to the SCMP, and hence to “China”. And even in more discerning circles, this move is likely to cost him sympathy points in the US. Based on the disclosure of Chinese hacking the previous day, the Congresscritters on the intelligence committee are now questioning his bona fides. From the Financial Times:

While many senior members of Congress have already labelled Mr Snowden a “traitor”, some lawmakers have started to raise suspicions about his links to China.

“We are going to make sure that there’s a thorough scrub of what his China connections are,” said Mike Rogers, chair of the House intelligence committee. “We need to ask a lot more questions about his motives and his connections – where he ended up, why he is there, how is he sustaining himself while he is there and is the Chinese government fully co-operating?”

Responding to Mr Snowden’s claim that while working at the NSA he could hack anyone’s phone or email, Mr Rogers replied said he “was lying”.

“He clearly has overinflated his position, he has overinflated his access and he’s even overinflated what the actually technology of the programs would allow one to do,” said Mr Rogers. “It’s impossible for him to do what he was saying he could do.”

“It seems unusual that he would be in China and asking for protection of the Chinese government and giving press conferences to the Chinese media,” said Dutch Ruppersberger, the top Democrat on the intelligence committee. “We’re going to investigate.”

“He chose to go to China, a country that’s cyber attacking us every single day, taking billions of dollars of American business data,” Mr Ruppersberger added."

Hhhm, the lady doth protest way too much.

AliceH

JiB - oh, that was made quite clear. "12 Cities. 40 Bars. ... Austin, Boston, El Paso, New York, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, San Antonio, Denver, Las Vegas, Tucson"

Maybe I'm just not discriminating enough, but the list seems a little artificial to me.

AliceH

I'm not a "bucket list" person.

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