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September 23, 2013

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Ranger

Via Instapundit:

Exclusive--IRS Offers True The Vote Tax Exempt Status, Files to Dismiss Lawsuit

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/23/Exclusive-IRS-offers-True-The-Vote-tax-exempt-status-in-bid-to-keep-lawsuit-from-proceeding

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has offered election integrity group True The Vote its tax-exempt status in what appears to be a bid to keep the group from proceeding with discovery on its lawsuit against the agency, Breitbart News has learned exclusively.

I am a big believer that the government should fear the people as much as the people fear the government. It's about time they are getting scared.

narciso

Very convenient, dontcha think;


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/23/Exclusive-IRS-offers-True-The-Vote-tax-exempt-status-in-bid-to-keep-lawsuit-from-proceeding

You could ask those grateful folk, Sheik Rahman, and Ali Mohammed, the former in Florence Co,

MarkO

I'm not certain that such an offer can be made in derogation of the IRS rules and I'm not certain it would moot the claims of damage.

narciso

The most interesting part of the exercise is the discovery, and the designation of damages, who do they think they are fooling?

daddy

O's fans,

Manny Machado just blew his left knee out by stepping wrong on the first base bag while running out an easy single. Ugly scene. he's still on the ground squirming.

Ranger

What I would really love to see is everyone in the chain of command, all the way up to the Turbo Timmy and JEF sued privately for civil rights violations. The TEA Party groups had a 14th amendment right to equal application of the law, and they were clearly and deliberately denied that basic civil right.

MarkO

Everything about the Rev and his family is phony:

The U.S. Marshals Service today cancelled the auction of forfeited assets from the Jesse Jackson, Jr., case before the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. After receiving legitimate concerns about the authenticity of the guitar purportedly signed by Michael Jackson and Eddie Van Halen

NK(tryin' again)

Ranger @5:47-- sorry, no civil liability under 'color of authority' Fitgerald v. Nixon I & II.

matt

daddy, some of my friends at Ft. Rich are none too happy. They head out for 2 weeks of training exercises in the Alaska forests today. Then again, some of them are Hooah.

Ignatz

So, if I put my cell phone I drop in the toilet with a small bag of rice, do I put three or four fifty pound sacks in my SUV in which I left the sunroof open during a pouring rain?

NK(tryin' again)

Daddy-- shame about Machado, he's a beautiful ballplayer to watch.

Extraneus

I don't believe that bit about Obama accidentally veering into health care due to a throwaway line in a 2008 speech.

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” (applause) “I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”

Obama speaking to the Illinois AFL-CIO, June 30, 2003.

He was riding high after his election - a god-like man, such as we've never seen in U.S. history - and figured that this was a chance for a serious legacy. He could have dialed it back at any time, but chose to go for the gold ring.

And the idea that he didn't realize there would be problems, or didn't understand the 3,000 page details, is absurd. The whole idea for decades was to create problems, or not adopt simple solutions so as to allow problems to fester, all in the service of eventual single-payer. The only thing he had to know was that the bill was designed to fail in a way that paved the way for single-payer, and nobody had to read the fine print to know that.

The strategy is still working, and they're all still on board.

sbw

I wanted the O's to lose, not Machado to get injured.

daddy

Ma(n)y business schools also offer a degree in Entrepreneurship.

I don't know why people think these Minneapolis Somali's wind up as cab drivers, 'cause from the story I linked above it seems the field they are flourishing in is "Community Activist":

---Minneapolis resident Kasim Bashir served time in prison for his part in the gang-style sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl in 1998. After his release he became a community activist in Minneapolis’ Somali community, coordinating a youth basketball league.

---Sadik Warfa, a Somali community activist in Minneapolis, has been in contact with some deportees. He said they find themselves targeted and isolated.

And I think this 3rd guy mentioned in the story is well on the way to becoming a community activist:

---Ali Khalif Hasan, for instance, awaits his fate in the Sherburne County jail after serving time in South Dakota for raping a 12-year-old girl who ran away from home.

sbw

Two streams are going to cross:
1) In the U.S., most mass shootings take place in gun free zones.
2) The Kenya mall was an instance to be repeated elsewhere.
Where else but in American gun free zones

It makes good sense to be prepared.

narciso

'You ask for Miracles, Theo'


http://hotair.com/archives/2013/09/23/oh-my-mcconnell-cornyn-wont-join-cruz-and-lee-in-filibustering-houses-cr-to-defund-obamacare/

MarkO

And every Democrat will vote together. What's wrong with this picture?

narciso

Now is Budoff this ignorant, or does she expect us to be this gullible, I think we have the answer.

Account Deleted

Cruz should have had a chat with one term Senator Norm Coleman regarding the advisability of first termers charting their own course without permission. It looks like the Sound and Fury Show is going to close without ever getting to Broadway.

matt

1 - The War on Terror is over. Obama himself told us so in May. The War by Terror people were not informed of this however.

2 - The national media is silent on the DC massacre because it does not fit the narrative.

3 - Single Payer has been the mecca of the democratic party since the 1960's. Read your Teddy Kennedy.

4 - The IRS Commissioner visited the White House over 150 times and know one has answered why he did so.

5 - Lois Lerner needs to be subpoena'd by a Grand Jury.

We are living in a world gone mad.

daddy

An observation on Global Warming:

ADN reports that the Feds (Interior Department) are about to release a new report requiring increased regulations for Arctic Oil Drilling operations: A cold, hard look at Arctic drilling as feds prepare to unveil rules

Some of the expected New Regulations:

1)---limit oil and gas drilling to the 100 days or so a year when ice melts enough that rigs and oil spill response equipment can operate in open water.

2)---companies should be required to use purpose-built Polar Class drilling rigs that are designed to prevent ice accumulation and survive encounters with thick ice floes while remaining anchored over a well, even when water starts freezing over.

3)---An armada of Polar Class vessels capable of supporting an oil spill response and working in icy conditions.

It strikes me that if the Fed's are so damn positive that the Arctic is warming from AGW, and that therefore there is and will be less Ice cover, and that therefore there is and will be much more open warm water to drill in, then these recommendations would be going in the other direction---towards increasing the number of days a year that Oil Companies can do their Arctic drilling.

I begin to think that they don't even believe their own propaganda about AGW.

Extraneus

Hey, so if anyone is ever in a situation where they're forced at gunpoint to name Muhammad's mother, here's the answer:

The womb of Aaminah bint Wahb was certainly the noblest and the most honorable of all wombs because it was the womb that carried the seal of all the Prophets and the leader of the Messengers. It was in this womb that the noble fetus (Allah's Messenger) settled. This seed had been passed down from the loins of men, generation after generation until Allah in His Divine wisdom decreed that it moved into 'Abdullah ibn 'Abdul Muttalib, the youthful Qurayshi who excelled his contemporaries in greatness. 'Abdullah ibn 'Abdul Muttalib was ransomed from slaughtering, after his father had vowed to sacrifice him and had sought to fulfill his vow. He was the most precious person the Arabs had ever known.
Forty years later, he figured out that he could fool others into believing that his perversions were actually plans that God had made specifically for him.
daddy

daddy, some of my friends at Ft. Rich are none too happy.

Me neither Matt,

Now I have to now do my best to not come home from some trip with a suntan---"Cabin Fever" Momma don't take kindly to that at all:(

Carp.

pinkman

It is rather like closing the barn-door after the livestock has been rousted, daddy.

4JIB2

Ex,

Do the muzzies say the Hail Aminah during their Friday service? Or is that only the veiled ladies in the back room that do that.

Extraneus

The fruit of those precious loins (pbut), I mean.

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

I don't think there is a chance in hell any suit will be dropped against the IRS - provided the lawyers are working on a contingency.

Extraneus

I think they prefer to hail the precious loins, JiB.

narciso

So this is like that Quilliam fellow against the pebble mine"

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/22/McAuliffe-s-Green-Billionaire-Supporter-Enriched-Himself-Through-Coal-And-Oil

matt

didn't they stone her to death?

narciso

Ah I did see they were paying attention;


http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/09/23/oh-to-be-young-and-socialist-again-bill-de-blasio-sandinistas/#.UkCIKRKxHN4.facebook

narciso

So Tepid Air was championing a CNBC poll of 800 people??, saying the blame would be split about the shutdown, but they are very adamant, they don't want a shutdown,

Danube on iPad

"seven days to go and this thing is going to be an absolute disaster with the media helpfully pointing out it is all the GOPs fault."

They can't possibly do so, and they won't, unless it goes forward without funding. In that event they can and they will, and it will be impossible to prove them wrong.

4JIB2

We are all assuming that the people who are going to hold Cruz or others accountable actually understand what the hell is going on. I don't even believe 50% of the American electorate watch the news or even read it.

Cruz and Lee should damn the torpedoes and just go for it. What more harm can be done than the white toga, Duke and Duke gang has already done?

narciso

It's a fairly simple propositon;


'This defund movement boils down to a very simple request. As Andrew McCarthy recently pointed out: “Obama himself has already unilaterally and unconstitutionally defunded aspects of Obamacare, including repugnant accommodations for big corporations, Obama insiders, and members of Congress.” All we’re asking is that the rest of America “get the same relief from this awful law that Obama cronies, the ruling class, and the politically-connected get.”

polly

Totally, totally agree, JIB.

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

Defunding OBamacare will forever be tied to Cruz and Lee. That will never ever hurt them.

narciso

One has to conclude, then Jane, that they don't believe in the cause, isn't today your birthday;


Lhttp://legalinsurrection.com/2013/09/yuck-yuck/#comments

4JIB2

For some reason I am watching BOR and I am reminded what a jerk he is and why the hell am I or anyone with a brain would listen to his BS.

The fact that he can trap Brit Hume, Dennis Miller and others to appear tells me that Cruz and Paul and Lee are on the right track.

Give me liberty or give me death!

rich@gmu

They can't possibly do so, and they won't...

Ha, "the facts were wrong but the narrative was right." Already saw over at Yahoo News the weather ballooning of the it is the GOPs fault this is such a clusterf#$%. We'll see, just a few more days to go.

Danube on iPad

"We are all assuming that the people who are going to hold Cruz or others accountable actually understand what the hell is going on."

I'm assuming no such thing. I'm simply taking account of the fact that if the law is unfunded on October 1, its innumerable requirements and restrictions will still be in effect. The millions of Americans who have been cut loose from employer plans will have nowhere to go for insurarnce - the exchanges will not be operating. Those people are going to be extremely pissed. Whom do you think they will blame?

Janet

I agree JiB & Jane.
I am starved for someone to stand up for the Constitution....to be brave & unapologetic.

narciso

Is it this piece you're referring to:


http://news.yahoo.com/wild-week-ahead-senate-confronts-shutdown-deadline-050639978.html

Threadkiller

"Whom do you think they will blame?"

The Party of Stupid?

Danube on iPad

"it is the GOPs fault this is such a clusterf#$%."

By "this," they don't mean Obamacare - they mean the defunding/shutown matter. And wait to see what they say if either happens.

It'll be doubly tragic, because all we had to do was let this thing go forward as planned, and when tens of millions of Americans pay much more for less, they'll know exactly where to direct their rage in 2014 and 2016. Cruz is trying to do them a favor of staggering proportions.

Danube on iPad

"The Party of Stupid?"

How did you guess?

Somebody please let me know when Cruz or Lee utters a single word about how the insurance market will look on October 2 if they succeed.

narciso

Who knows what they mean, it's a poll of 800 people, they didn't even bother with picking adults, so great is the scam, of course McConnell and Cornyn, are sdoing their best, to scuttle any such prospect,
So I'd say the chances are 1 in 3.

Threadkiller

If blame is the game I would propose the GOP does everything in their power to lose in landslide proportions in 2014 as well as 2016.

The more the voters suffer the better the GOP will succeed.

That is assuming they don't have some sort of decree to never win in the first place...

narciso

I think that was Ramius's line, when he was asked what were the odds he would make it through the subhunt, but it might have been another Connery role,

Ranger

Well, right now the Dems are doing everything they can to convince the public that it is the dastardly Republicans who are trying to bock ObamaCare, so that is good. Now, if Cruz can just force every single Dem to vote for ObamaCare again, with a few "reasonable" Republicans to go along (just enough to ensure every Dems has to vote Yea), then it is a win/win for the Republicans. People will know the Rs fought like hell to prevent it, and every Dem will be on the like for voting for it when the pain kicks in.

jimmyk

So DeBlasio is a reformed Sandalista, according to the Times, if you read between the lines, who 'read from the Book'

Now lest you think that the Times is actually digging into a candidate's background to expose damaging information, in this case the typical Times reader will view this information as a plus.

Lhota needs to make this a referendum on Dinkins vs. Giuliani.

Eric in Boise

Big Mo's Mom's middle name was "Bint"?

Heh.

narciso

No of course not, Jimmy, the Commentary piece had a better take on it, the reference from the Mummy, is heartfelt because this guy is like Sonny Bono in 'Airplane'

jimmyk

all we had to do was let this thing go forward as planned, and when tens of millions of Americans pay much more for less, they'll know exactly where to direct their rage in 2014 and 2016. Cruz is trying to do them a favor of staggering proportions.

Since he won't succeed, how does any of this change? Will Americans now not know where to direct their rage because of Cruz's efforts?

Danube on iPad

"If blame is the game I would propose the GOP does everything in their power to lose in landslide proportions in 2014 as well as 2016."

That would be roughly as stupid as defunding Obamacare - but perhaps it's also one of Cruz's goals. If so, he's doing a great job.

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've seen a single comment at JOM concerning what will happen tp people on October 2 if the law is unfunded. I don't even recall any expression of concern, or even interest. The attitude - and it mirrors Cruz perfectly - seems to be, "the Democrats have inflicted great harm on the people with Obamacare. We're ready to inflict even greater harm in order to get back at them,"

That'll show 'em!

Danube on iPad

I'm with Ranger, except that I don't attach that great a value to making them "vote for it again." everybody knows how they voted already.

But it is vitally important that Cruz ultimately fail. I invite all those who disagree to give us some idea of what will happen on October 2 to those who will no lnger be on their employers' plan.

narciso

The law isn't designed to work, it is a kamikazi crashing into American healthcare, this is how it was designed,

narciso

An odd detail about the mother of the Prophet's whereabouts;


The grave of Amina bint Wahb was found in Al-Abwa in 1998 but was then bulldozed and allegedly doused with gasoline.[8]

seriously they are insane,

Joan

I probably shouldn't be, but I am ... confused. I've read every one of the comments, and I come away not understanding, so I will ask. Who is correct? Cruz and Lee or Cornyn and McConnell?

If letting the ACA roll on, funded, and waiting for the predicted chaos is the politically smart way to go, won't the mess just lead to the single payer national insurance that so many of us fear?

And, if the Republican's bill, funding the government but not funding ACA, is sent back to the House; and the (expected) and resulting media and press hissy fit blaming the Republicansturns out to be just as bad politically as the other way, what have Cruz and Lee and backers gained?

It seems like we are in a lose/lose situation, and that is sort of how I've felt about our government for many years now. The Democrats are socialists/liberals, and so many of the ordinary people who support them seem to be hell bent on electing politicians who will provide food stamps, health care, ad nauseam, I see no hope for the near future.

What has happened to us?

sbw

This reads like a birther yes-it-is/no-it-isn't thread.

jorod

We are all banana republics now.

narciso

legal and political malpractice, Joan, Steyn was pointing out yet again, the fraud of AGW, pointing out Michael Mann's fraudulent hockey stick, and the lawsuit to call him on that, and the judge who denied one of his motions, because she got the plaintiffs and defendants wrong,

Ignatz

--I invite all those who disagree to give us some idea of what will happen on October 2 to those who will no lnger be on their employers' plan.--

They will have to buy insurance in the relatively free market but won't receive a subsidy.
Which brings me back to my original question; if we're counting on all these schmoes who are going to have to buy insurance now but will get massive subsidies to stoke the anti Barrycare fires isn't there a decent likelihood instead they'll learn to love it?

narciso

In other nearly as incomprehensible news, what with the Steelers?

Danube on iPad

"won't the mess just lead to the single payer national insurance that so many of us fear?"

Not unless they have control of the political branches on the scale of what they had in 2009. Unless Cruz gets his way, I don't see that happening.

Threadkiller

It is nice to see that Cruz is such a formidable individual.

Jane on Ipad hi there NSA

Well my tech guy told me today he regrets voting for Obama - twice. And in my unending gracious way, all I could say is. "I told you so".

narciso

Hey it's a futile gesture, likely to fail,
what did Franklin say 'a Republic if you can keep it'

Danube on iPad

"It is nice to see that Cruz is such a formidable individual."

What's nice about it? A single senatoe can do a lot of damage to his party if he's sufficiently pig-headed.

narciso

The folks at GQ, well it's only Zengerle, who's probably a Journolist, was peeved about Cruz's part in the interrogation of Hagel, I guess they expected a coronation for the Hamas friendly beneficiary of Arabian interests,

jimmyk

DoT won't answer the question of exactly what damage Cruz has done, or will have done, given that the defunding effort will fail. The answer is: None whatsoever, and the positive is that he has kept R opposition to Obamacare front and center.

Janet

If letting the ACA roll on, funded, and waiting for the predicted chaos is the politically smart way to go, won't the mess just lead to the single payer national insurance that so many of us fear?

That is what I think. We end it ASAP or it will never end. Probably too late anyway.
March 2010 was **the moment**...but most Americans didn't even realize what was going on.

boris

The left could probably get away with blaming Todd Beamer, Mark Bingham, Tom Burnett and Jeremy Glick for crashing flight 93 in a Pa cornfield. Doesn't make fighting for what's right the wrong thing to do.

Jim Rhoads f/k/a vnjagvet

I still think Cruz is playing with Reid and BOzo's heads. I also think his end game is bringing to the attention of folks who generally don't pay attention the perils of Obummercare, and the train wreck that starts on October 1.

He is giving everyone notice that this week is the last clear chance to minimize the error made by the Dems when they forced the monstrous bill by the use of every hook and crook tactic on the American people. He knows he will lose this battle, but it is in pursuit of victory in the war against this pernicious legislation.

One think is for sure. Obummercare is in the national spotlight, and is likely to remain so through November 2014. Anyone who supports BOzo and his Cruella Secretary of HHS can run, but they can't hide.

narciso

How about that,


http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/23/off-duty-officer-with-hand-gun-at-kenyan-mall-saved-dozens-of-people-returning-to-mall-again-and-again-to-rescue-people/

Account Deleted

jimmyk,

Agreed, 100%. This has all the danger and drama of a pro-wrestling match or a carnie geek act. I'm not sure it makes any difference at all whether Cruz actually bites the head off the chicken at this point.

The fact the NYT is running articles about BOzocare warts and running lesions suggests some concern regarding unpopular reaction to Grand Theft Healthcare. The gratitude of new welfare recipients from the same basic Dem voter cesspool doesn't worry me very much.

Thomas Collins

Cruz will win the battle, although the war is still in doubt. The battle is forcing Dem Senators in purple and reddish hue states to go on record again in support of Barrycare. I don't think there will be a shutdown. But when the dust clears, although Barrycare will still be in place, the GOP's chances to take over the Senate will be improved.

I think Cruz and Lee are being underestimated as middle game chess players.

Danube on iPad

"DoT won't answer the question of exactly what damage Cruz has done, or will have done, given that the defunding effort will fail. "

I don't recall having been asked. My answer, as I think I have made clear from what I have said, is "none, provided that it does, indded, fail." And while I think that is certainly the very likely ultimate outcome, depending on how the parliamentary games are played it may well depend on a few GOP senators going with the Dems. If they do, they will be vilified by the people who thought it was a good idea to nominate Sharron Angle and the Delaware witch lady. And who think it would be a good Idea to defunf Obamacare.

Threadkiller

Ted Cruz is Sharron Angle.

Thomas Collins

I would have preferred the vote smoking out the vulnerable Dem Senators be on a suspension of Barrycare, but I can't say the defunding gambit is unreasonable.

Clarice

I still think the back up in the conference committee ought to be striking out the exemptions and demanding proof of identity and income or subsidies.

narciso

They wouldn't do it, they are lashed to the mast, like Odysseus's crew, steering into to the rocks,

Angle arose whieh Sue' how many chickens' Lydon, selfdestructed, and Danny Tarkanian couldn't pick up the pieces,

Danube on iPad

"I can't say the defunding gambit is unreasonable."

Would you like to see it succeed?

MarkO

Well, there are many unknown things, the one I know for certain is that Obamacare today caused my long time insurance effectively to cancel me.

Tell me, oh sage ones, how letting it go on will help me with that issue. On October 2, when Cruz lets this bill go, will I be insured? Theory is great until it meets reality.

For the past 10 years the GOP has been too cute by half in its strategy to let the common man see how bad the Democrats are. Instead, the common man has been bought off.

So I ask some historical evidence to support the fiction that letting Obamacare continue to ruin the insurance market will translate to a GOP majority in both houses and a GOP president in 2016. Personally, I think it assumes a fair media and some intelligence on the part of voters.

Even the Dread Pirate Roberts shied away from killing the beast. May his name be raised in vituperation. But the common voter? You must be kidding.

I would prefer to drive a stake in it. But, for certain, on October 2, whatever the speculation about something that won't happen, I will be out of my insurance.

I have no trust in the common voter.

MarkO

"Would you like to see it succeed?"

Hell yes. Do you really think time is on our side?

Danube on iPad

"The battle is forcing Dem Senators in purple and reddish hue states to go on record again in support of Barrycare"

Where is the magic in "again?" Would it be insufficient simply to point out that they enacted the thing in the first place and have refused to bring to the floor the repeated house votes to repeal it, and it belongs to them? Besides, they're not voting for Obamacare; they're voting to fund an existing law that, in the absence of funding, would harm millions of Americans much more than they would be harmed by the law if the funds were provided.

Threadkiller

After Googling the intertubes I have determined MarkO's: "For the past 10 years the GOP has been too cute by half in its strategy to let the common man see how bad the Democrats are. Instead, the common man has been bought off." to be an original.

I will now perform a Google truth test of the statement.

Threadkiller

The statement is judged to be true.

Janet

Where is the magic in "again?"

Because more people are paying attention now & they are being affected....it's not some pie-in-the-sky "nice" idea anymore. Even the unions are squealin'.

matt

I am in deep shock at the moment. A close friend called me a couple of hours ago to inform me that another close friend, a high ranking USA officer died in a training accident a few hours ago.

The deceased officer, another highly regarded soldier and I spent @ 3 or 5 or 6 hours just a few weeks ago destroying a couple of bottles of Kentucky's finest late into the evening and solving the world's problems. I am deeply grieving.

The news will come out in a day or so after they notify the family. The brotherhood will gather once more.

In those late night conversations we talked about reality, not fiction. It angers me deeply that we have been so lied to.

We are being lied to every single day. This isn't paranoia. It's fact and it has been done by both sides. They disgust me.

More American soldiers will die for an contemptible, lying oligarchy soon enough again. We really have passed the breaking point if nothing is done very shortly.

Centralcal on iPad

Oh Matt, I am so very sorry to hear that.

narciso

So sorry to hear that matt,

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Sorry about your friend, matt. Is it just me or has the number of training accidents spiked recently?

MarkO

Do you not think that if Obamacare brings as much suffering as his economic policies that he will do as he as done before and blame the Republicans. Do you not believe the media will carry his water? What great epiphany can we expect?

The Tea Party brought us the House, despite the fact that it was defamed and abandoned by the very Senators who are now against Cruz. Internecine bloodletting is the stuff of the retrenched GOP.

Janet

I am so sorry, matt.
I don't even know what to say...

Gus

If I'm not mistaken, DANUBE himself wants the public to suffer greatly so as to show how wrong Obamacare is. Am I wrong here?

Gus

Everything Obama and his fuktard Marxists have done, has been blamed on the GOP. The obvious CRASH AND BURN of Obamacare will also be blamed on Republicans. Today Obama blamed the UN-FUK-ING BELIEVABLE levels of HIS spending on CONGRESSES budgets. America believes the lies. They will believe the CANDY MAN when Obamacare collapses. I back Cruz.

Centralcal on iPad

You are so right, MarkO!

MarkO

Well, if public suffering will elect GOP candidates, we would have won the last election. Things have not been worse for blacks, the poor, unions and Americans in general in decades. I think this is a theory in search of support.

I would love to be able to believe in it. Actually, I have believed in it to my grand disappointment.

Janet

That's how I read it Gus...& a dig at anyone that supported Sharron Angle and the Delaware witch lady.

Nobody makes me more disheartened about the GOP than DoT.

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