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December 16, 2013


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Rob Crawford

As I said at Insty's -- I will not give a confessed war criminal the benefit of the doubt.


Can we excoriate the long faced botox brain yet?


Let's excoriate him anyway!


Kerry's intellectual firepower?.... no that's too easy. "More dangerous" NorK actions? Suffice to say, that the NorK nuke delivery system does not have to be too accurate to kill a million people in Tokyo or L.A. And TomM is right to point out that Kerry as the USA SoS calling for the removal of Kim as dangerous, has its own massive dangers given the number of NorK artillary tubes withing range of Seoul.


SO Kerry. He was for removing dangerous dictators, before he was against that, before he was for that..again?...maybe? Kerry certainly doesn't suffer from the hobgoblins of a consistent mind.


Pause: Mocking Kerry.

Resume: Mocking Kerry.


If we can't excoriate, can we extirpate? Is that an option?

2Jack is Back4!

Was he licking his lips as he talked to Martha? When he does its his tell tale that he doesn't know what he is talking about and is winging it.

Also, was he wearing his hat?


You know a really scary thought? I think that Kerry would have been a better president than Obama. (I'm pretty sure that Joe Biden would be, too...)


Talk about grading on a curve.



Stephanie looking forward to the bowl games

The new newschick working for Shep has some pretty serious chops. He just introduced her and she was at the naval academy, flew planes, landed on carriers in Afghanistan war, and did Intel for special forces. Wow. And seriously hot.

The tests went great today and the stent is gone and no issues so far.


Stephie-- best wishes for continued good medical reports.

Cecil Turner on mini pad

I'm not sure what we're talking about as far as inaccurate, unreliable, or naval vessel nukes. Obviously a nuke that can't be delivered is no real threat (and I doubt putting one on a naval vessel and sailing it into someone else's harbor is considered viable, even for the ditzy NorKs).

Likewise, a problem with miniaturization leaves them with a device that can't fit on a missile, not an inaccurate missile. (Though that may well be effectively the outcome if they decide to make it into a bomb for one of their not-very-suitable aircraft.)

Finally, except for the criminally unstable, the value of a nuke is in the (usually implied) threat of its use. Hence a reliable capability is an essential part of the equation, and they're not there yet.

Concur Kerry is a rather dim bulb . . . but I don't think this example is the best evidence.

very undude

Gawd he's a tiresome dolt. He long ago passed the Peter Principle


Seriously. All recordings of Perry Como singing "The Lord's Prayer," should be destroyed.


As I've said before, if we'd had just hung Kerry for sedition 40 years ago, we wouldn't be waiting to excoriate him now.


hooray for you, Stephanie!

In the 1960's the United States had unreliable missiles tipped with nuclear warheads. That didn't mean we wouldn't launch them or pretend to at least. They were a very successful deterrent.

One of the unknown facts of the Cold War was that many of our missiles in places like Alabama or Arizona were really only good to hit Seattle or NYC if we launched them. it was only with the Minuteman and Polaris that we gained the reliability to reach out and touch the Russians.

And the only time nuclear weapons were used was by a 4 engined airplane that even the North Koreans can master.

This administration's hallmark has been covering up the facts, so John f'n Kerry may be quite rightfully confused.


Great news, Stephanie! Keep up the good work.


Yay, Stephanie! Hope you remain issue-less.


Obviously a nuke that can't be delivered is no real threat

Unless you sell it to someone who can deliver it. Or maybe that is the hard part.

Anyway, I'm not inclined to be generous to Kerry, even if I should be.

Nice to see you Cecil - and congrats Steph.

Beasts of England

Good news, Steph!

Captain Hate

Yay Steph; Boo Lurch. Boo Raddatz.

very undude

Have some Freedom Fries.

"Piketty shows that modern economic growth and the diffusion of knowledge have allowed us to avoid inequalities on the apocalyptic scale predicted by Karl Marx. But we have not modified the deep structures of capital and inequality as much as we thought in the optimistic decades following World War II. The main driver of inequality--the tendency of returns on capital to exceed the rate of economic growth--today threatens to generate extreme inequalities that stir discontent and undermine democratic values. But economic trends are not acts of God. Political action has curbed dangerous inequalities in the past, Piketty says, and may do so again."


Great news, Stephanie, Carlos Slim's man, Erlanger has Prince Turki, congratulating Lurch for his move on the 'peace process'

Beasts of England

Damn you Thai Pad!

(and please tell me about them newkyoolar missiles in Alabammer, matt. News to me...)


Of course, if you actually fought the administration;


Lurch has defamed his fellow soldiers, sailors and airmen in Vietnam, the CIA in Central America, and a reprise in the Middle East, so no he's due a speck of doubt.


not due, and the Boston Globe can't stop embarassing itself, with their latest findings on the T-Dawgs.


Michael Boskin is what many here call a 'top man', GHW Bush's chief economist. He's at Stamford, and in today's WSJ he briefly summarizes the continuing social, economic and political (for Dems) disaster that is ObummerCare. 2014 will be a totally shitty year to be a Dem in a Senate or competitive House election:

2Jack is Back4!


Are you saying Atlas couldn't go intercontinental? Do you have a cite for that? Went operational in 1959. My Dad was involved in its development and deployment when at SAC.


Taranto brings up this gem, worthy of Butterfield;

"So, why are we so mistrustful of our fellow Americans? Why, for example, do record numbers of our people--whatever their politics--believe they need to keep firearms in their homes, even though crime continues to decline nationally to nearly historic lows?"--Tim Rutten, Daily Breeze (Torrance, Calif.), Dec. 13


Dear Tim Rutten,

Because of people like you.




Rutten is the EJ Dionne of the Left Coast, well one of them,


LOL Lyle.

2Jack is Back4!

lyle wins the "snark of the day".


This Fiscal Times article just reinforces why I think Walker as Top of Ticket in 2016 has a real chance, including against HildaBeast:


Of course he has to first win the Governor election in 2014.


Had an interesting conversation with my elderly semi-retired pharmacist on Saturday. He reports an incredible increase in the price of generic prescription drugs. Said he found a 10-yr-old invoice for Premarin, and the price was 1/5 the current price.

A little variation I didn't see coming -- it's not just that the dopey are getting in-patent drugs when the cheap generics would work just as well, but much worse. The market for cheap generics has basically disappeared. Instead of a robust market of people paying cash for their prescriptions keeping prices down, the dawn of everything "free" is giving the generic drug manufacturers an unprecedented opportunity to loot insurance premiums. The pharmacist explained that Obamacare makes it illegal for insurance plans to negotiate with drug companies.


Regarding U.S. foreign policy, or lack thereof, and in particular the whole mess with Japan and China, I happened to catch Ian Bremmer of the Eurasia Group on Charlie Rose a few days back. He seems like a mainstream guy, and he's basically saying Obama's FP is a disaster (though at one point he seems to suggest Hillary would have done better as SoS).

"There were not happy privately with Biden's visit... While saying publicly there is 'no space' between the US and Japanese positions, the State Dept instructed American civil aviation to file flight plans with the Chinese, after the Japanese explicitly said don't."

And more:

"U.S. foreign policy is in decline...The perception of American leadership and diplomacy around the world has taken a significant beating in the last six months...So many countries around the world are having questions about the U.S....Obama has issues with taking on the role of international leadership..."

The stuff on Japan and China is at about 3:30.

Dave (in MA)
More bafflegab. Open mikes are not Kerry's friend.
And if he went to an Open Mic Night, he'd just botch all of his jokes.
Rick Ballard

"Obama has issues with taking on the role of international leadership chewing gum while walking...

First things first.


OK OK, I'll say something positve about John Forbes Kerry... he has very good hair.


So, heck of a job. Wendy, you put the nuclear arsenal in the hands of the bond villain, from the last Brosnan outing,


Pop was one of the experts on rocket fuels back in the 50's and early 60's. When I was a kid I played with the models the defense contractors would give him of his projects. Very Gahan Wilson or Charles Addams.

The rangesof the missiles were apparently known by the propellant chemists and top level DoD and presumably, executive branch officials.

We needed those sites in Turkey and elsewhere.First strike was critical. The removal of the missiles in Turkey was the quid pro quo that Khrushchev got from Kennedy @ 5-6 months after the Cuban Missile Crisis.

As to Alabama, Beasts, I don't know. It was one of those toss off lines, I think. It was 25 years after the event, probably, when he told me and it is now another 25 years or more.

I would imagine the real "Book of Secrets" has all sorts of wild stuff in it. It seeps out a little every now and then. The classified world is full of that kind of stuff.

Now, every time they launch it is being watched by the most advanced telemetry by both sides/all sides. Back then you could get away with deceiving your enemies more readily.


"Lurch has defamed his fellow soldiers, sailors and airmen in Vietnam, " and every day since, IMO.
"disaster that is ObummerCare"

"But if you go on Medicaid, you owe the entire amount that Medicaid spends on you from the day you turn 55."

Captain Hate

And if he went to an Open Mic Night, he'd just botch all of his jokes.

He sounded more like an awkward fool than usual when he tried to tell a joke at Palin's expense. Well done, Taxachusetts; anybody who voted for this bloviating gasbag deserves the hook.


excoriate is too good for this SOB.

Danube on iPad

Wonderful, Steph.


"A peevish, grudging rancor against men has been one of the most unpalatable and unjust features of second- and third-wave feminism. Men’s faults, failings and foibles have been seized on and magnified into gruesome bills of indictment. Ideologue professors at our leading universities indoctrinate impressionable undergraduates with carelessly fact-free theories alleging that gender is an arbitrary, oppressive fiction with no basis in biology."

Immediately thought of KaKa.


From the previous thread, you can say that again, MaryD:

highly recommend "It's a Wonderful Life -- but It Will Cost You" by Stella Morabito in the Federalist today. LUN

Posted by: MaryD

THANK YOU. excellent.

Merry Christmas.


They though they had hit the bottom of the barrel, but they went further;


Even Abbas doesn't favor 'boycotting Israel"-- I guess the Saudis told him to say that.


In my email today, as suggested on Saturday...:

15 December 2013

To our West Point Graduates:

I share with you the disappointment of the Army Football Team’s continued losses to Navy – the 12th in a row occurring last Saturday, 14 December, in Philadelphia. The players had worked too hard, the Corps had laid it all out all year in support, our graduates were watching with great anticipation, and our Soldiers across the globe expected a different outcome. But they did not get it this year. They deserve better and you deserve better. I accept full responsibility to get us moving immediately in that direction.

At West Point, we continue to attract the right young men and women from across America to develop the world’s best leaders on and off the field. We must surround our cadets with staff, faculty and coaches who will develop them and toughen them for the world we know they’ll face when they graduate. They must connect, challenge, and inspire them, or we will cause harm beyond the playing field.

To that end, our Athletic Director Boo Corrigan and I have decided to terminate our football coach, Rich Ellerson’s contract, and to immediately begin a search for the coach who will provide the leadership that will quickly build a winning program here at Army. In preparation for a possible move, we have and will continue to consult with former coaches and players who participated in winning programs, and have also carefully reviewed the input of many graduates whose recommendations and observations have been appreciated. Substantive work has already begun on a comprehensive, national basis to identify a pool of very impressive candidates.

Leadership must come from the Institution, the coach, and the players. We are also reviewing previous football studies and looking at institutional changes that are necessary to support winning programs, but fully integrated with our intellectual, military, physical and character developmental programs.

Thank you for your continued support of West Point. When America puts its sons and daughters in harm's way, they do not expect us to just "do our best"... but to win. Nothing short of victory is acceptable. That fundamental ethos is at the heart of this Academy. It must be ingrained in every one of our athletic programs. Our core values are Duty, Honor, Country. Winning makes them real.

Go Army – Beat Navy!

Robert L. Caslen, Jr.
LTG, U.S. Army
59th Superintendent


It was all good until the last para...


Well they get results, Sandy,


That letter was poorly written and foolish imo.

Comanche Voter

You say "open mikes" are not Lurch's best friend? That's true--but then in his case an "open mouth" is even worse. We suspect that Ol Jean Fraud Kerry--an upper middle class gigolo to rich women--is not too bright; but when he opens his mouth, he removes all doubt.

So John--a word to the wise--- where your mouth is concerned, "Keep it zipped".

2Jack is Back4!

Go Air Force, Beat Army and Navy.

Just like you have done 18 times to win the CinC Trophy.

BTW, Navy is second with 14 CinC trophies. Army? Meh!


His mouth wrote out further checks, he can't cash;

Re; the deal with Afghanistan;

KERRY: I’ve said they will. No, no, no. I said either he or they will. But he needs to sign it. And the reason he needs to sign it is because of the planning that is necessary, because of the — the slide scope — the glide slope that we’re on now for the withdrawal of troops, because you have more than 50 nations that have been involved in supporting this. They all have budgets. They all have planning requirements. And it is vital that Hamid Karzai recognize the importance of doing this.


Martha should have put down the pom poms, it was unseemly, but let's have her moderate the next debate um kay.


SD, I'm so glad that you liked "It's a Wonderful Life -- but It Will Cost You".

I should have said in my original post that it is a wonderfully written examination of the huge importance of personal friendships and relationships in life, and names them as the bulwark against the ever-encroaching state attempt to isolate people and make them dependent on government. My description is prose. The article is poetry. LUN

Captain Hate

I'm pretty sure Camille, Tammy and SP could reduce all the crones to quivering pools of smelly resentment.

Danube on iPad

The Polaris subs were first deployed in 1966.


Just turtles all the way down, the fact that Syrian jihadists, just tore down a statue in Christ in Saynaba, (sic) he has no answer to,
well not that Raddatz asked,

he also had somethng about young people's aspirations being foiled, leads to car bombs,


Sounds like their aspirations were doing just fine.


The first test was in 1960, but we are being exceeding charitable, to think he's talking about missiles, you need a ICBM to boost a payload into orbit.


Talking Points Memo (or TPM) is a politically liberal web-based political journalism organization created and run by Josh Marshall, a journalist, liberal blogger[2] and historian.[3]



Well reading between the lines, just like Joffe didn't intend for Obama to send tanks firing against Capitol Hill, he suggested a mass demonstration,

Danube on iPad

"Talking Points Memo (or TPM) is a politically liberal web-based political journalism organization created and run by Josh Marshall"

They quoted the loon. Did they do so inaccurately?

Rob Crawford
They quoted the loon. Did they do so inaccurately?



His own words don't seem to include "coup".

very undude

Boner has taken his condom off. He's sick and tired of TP orgs focus on raising money and expanding organizations at the expense of the GOP.


Remember when Hillary had such an epiphany,

KERRY: Well, you know, at that — at a certain point in time, yes, it did. And I — and I said something about that publicly previously. Um, but I really, you know, I just thought about it a lot. I think I had a sort of epiphany, a moment where it just occurred to me that, um, there still is a purpose, uh, in God’s work, that defines itself, sometimes, differently than the ways one might superficially think.

Lord, she seems to caught the ums from Caroline;


Well she gave him the ums;

We're in the best of all possible hands, facepalm;


--Talk about grading on a curve.--

I believe it is now called grading on the arc.


So it's more like when he set his hair on fire;


Narc, I still have that bumper sticker.


Well there's another fine mess;

his admission indicates they have no clue how much they lost,

Danube on iPad

Own words:

"That is the reason for Freedom Watch's citizens' grand juries, which are indicting and trying political felons like Obama as we speak. In this regard, a conviction is near in the case of the Obama for eligibility fraud.

"Once convicted, We the People will have the right to enforce this conviction and demand that Obama surrender himself to the people's system of justice for incarceration. Will he do so voluntarily? Obviously not! His arrogance and disrespect for American law – just look at how his attorney general has flouted it – and his apparent allegiance to Shariah law make this more than unlikely, to put it mildly."

Well, we'll convict him in some sort of fantasy court (the "citizens' grand jury" was a favorite of the loon Donofrio) and then march in our millions and demand that he surrender himself to us. Coup? I suppose one could argue no. Loon? (Laughing out loud...)


So Talking Points, runs a months old article on the day that klayman secures an injunction against the NSA,


That took some time.


The subs were meant to get close in and be undetectable, narciso. Much shorter range than the ICBM's.

We had Jupiters in Turkey that could hit targets in Russia fast and our allies were deadly afraid of the Soviets. In 1961 Adenauer was afraid JFK was going to sell Western Europe and specifically, Germany out as JFK was not going to extend Eisenhower's guarantee of nuclear response to any major Soviet aggression.

JFK and Adenauer disliked each other. JFK thought Adenauer was a senile old man. He also set up a back door channel with Khrushchev through Bobby using a Russian spy the Kennedys thought was a newspaper editor. This direct access allowed Krushchev to read JFK better, as Bobby was inexperienced in the ways of tradecraft and statecraft and was easily read.

Most of the European leaders did not have a lot of regard for JFK. They thought him weak, callow and indecisive. Bay of Pigs and Yuri Gagarin happened almost the same day. We were going to launch Alan Shepard a month later and got beat out. JFK was punked by the USSR in front of the world that day.

So we had Bay of Pigs, the Berlin Wall and the the Cuban Missile Crisis. Camelot could easily have turned into Armageddon.

We were trying to fasten nukes onto anything that could fly at that point. We certainly had the advantage, but the Russians were willing to lose huge swathes of their population, and Russia is pretty damned big.

I don't think the postwar period can be overstated for its complexities and dangers. And all the way along the left was either in denial or acting as fellow travelers or even active agents in this country.


The whole fustercluck with the South Africa interpreter, reminds me of an anecdote from a Peter Benchley comic roman a clef, Q Clearance,
before he was wrangling sharks, he was with the White House press corps, I know what's the difference,

Anyways, the main character was a speech writer,who had the aforementioned clearance, and in the course of a speech he had to write, he discovers the administration, a loosely disguised Johnson presidency is catering to the prince of an oil rich statelet that happens to be a pyromaniac,


Still his faction, was at variance with the Stevensons and even the Fulbrights, or 'Half Bright' as Truman called him, Acheson wasn't terribly impressed with his successors at Foggy Bottom,


Is that plot more like one with a CIA Director who seemingly covered up probable involvement by senior military and intelligence officials of an unnamed nation in a major terrorist act?

Or would it be more like the one with a Director of the CIA delivering a 1 hour top secret speech on the erasure of a terrorist with scriptwriters in the room, narciso?

Really, you can't make this stuff up.

Danube on iPad

"So Talking Points, runs a months old article on the day that klayman secures an injunction against the NSA,"

The TPM article to which I linked was published on September 17. Are you referring to a different one?

Klayman's words to which I linked, some of which I excerpted, are simply loony. "Apparent allegiance to Sharia law?" Citizens' grand juries? Surrender himself to the millions who march on Wahington?

I say it's loony, and I say the hell with it.


No, you can't, the weird thing, is sy hersh's latest blast, doesn't seem that insane, in the book they do namecheck Hersh,


Even TPM wouldn't stoop so low as to pretend a September story is related to one from today.

They probably don't know how to have fun


Ooops - the one SD posted. I thought it was you - sorry.


I think the term "Tea Party" may need to be trademarked.

Tea-Party Resistance Clouds Push for Major Trade Pacts

The link may not get through the paywall, but the gist of it is that they've found some anti-free trade activist is part of a group that calls itself "Tea Party." Even though most of the people discussed in the article have nothing to do with the Tea Party, that's the term that makes the headline.



I worry about the world and the state of Washington when Hersh sounds reasonably sane.

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