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narciso

There was already an episode of Elementary, that tried the scare with this,

Some signs of intelligent life;

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/01/18/9th-circuit-first-amendment-media-protections-apply-to-bloggers-too/

henry

Higher quality than casting. Thus fewer scrapped components, not to mention elimination of all the casting and machining steps in the manufacture of the components. That is a lot of skilled labor, energy, and material (scrap & tailings) made obsolete. Higher quality, lower cost, much smaller work force... This process will impact manufacturing the way the tractor impacted farming. Plus the comparative advantage flips to high tech economies from low wage economies (ie, here not China) -- the employment simply disappears.

daddy

It seems to me that putting that dirty, dirty slimeball Podesta in charge of learning all he can about how the NSA does it's business, is equivalent to putting Craig Livingston in charge of the Nations FBI files.

I think it would be hard to find a creepier, more ruthless, untrustworthy slimeball than Podesta in the entire nation, to give a Carte Blanch card to regarding the NSA's oversight.

matt

The cost of that pistol is prohibitive, but nice that they spent the time to do it.

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

I really don't get 3D printing. (It may be the use of the word "printer".

Ignatz

--This process will impact manufacturing the way the tractor impacted farming. Plus the comparative advantage flips to high tech economies from low wage economies (ie, here not China) -- the employment simply disappears.--

If you don't believe Henry just click on any Motley Fool spam you might get and they'll spend an hour hinting at the same thing if you'll only send them some dough to say what Henry did in two sentences.

Ignatz

--I really don't get 3D printing.--

Jane,
Like a printer it makes a copy of whatever you feed it (or the specifications for what you wish it to make), except it "prints" a three dimensional object rather than a document or photo.

henry

Jane, normal ink jet printers spray a combination of primary colors to produce an image. The ink has vertical depth as well. 3D printing takes advantage of the same process (controlled spraying of material in two dimensions) to create a three dimensional object layer by layer. You start with a computer representation of the object, the send it to the printer. In the early 90s this was done with plastic (replacing ink) to create prototype parts. The plastic had to be heated for the layers to stick together. (As I recall, a bed of plastic granules was fused by heat in the printed pattern for a layer, more granules added, then the next layer heated & fused). Now the technology can use metal dust, it is heated by laser (mounted in the printer head?) for precise build of a metal component. I saw a plastic part printed at a USAF logistics center near San Antonio, and assume the process with metals is similar (but haven't seen it in action).

Rob Crawford

Here's a good time-lapse of one working.

The "printer" part is, I think, partly because you hook it to a computer like a printer and partly because like old dot-matrix printers, it works line by line.

Ignatz


Hoboken Mayor claims Christie held Sandy relief money hostage for private development project governor favored.

Now, it comes from msnbc so your first act might be ingesting a salt mine, and parts of the story sound kinda implausible ("my beloved governor"? We should be so lucky if this one lied to her diary) but if true then this story will have legs a little more reminiscent of Wilt the Stilt's than Reich the Hobbit's.

Rick Ballard

It's Jersey - not quite the cleanest cesspool of the Mid-Atlantic states. Christie's been dog paddling around in it for years so a lack of the odor of sanctity was a given.

Are Dems driving this or did Mitt hire more hit men?

Ignatz

--“The industrial printer we used costs more than my college tuition (and I went to a private university),” Kent Firestone, Solid Concepts’ Vice President of additive manufacturing, said in a statement.--

Which is why I'm kinda curious about why this 3D printing stuff is so weirdly related to guns.
For vastly less one can go buy a CadCam vertical mill and lathe and churn out gun parts that can be assembled into entire guns by the thousands already.

jimmyk on iPhone

And let's remember that Christie has made a lot of enemies, notably among unsavory union thugs who would not be above a little lying to get back at him, since the usual cement shoes might not be feasible.

henry

Which is why I'm kinda curious about why this 3D printing stuff is so weirdly related to guns.

Guns are manufactured objects which face Prohibition from various government agencies... Thus the desire to show that any Prohibition is doomed to fail. (Cost is not the primary consideration, a demonstration of ubiquitous onsite production is the point).

Relative costs for one manufacturing process versus another are not entirely captured by the machine capital cost, and tend to be in flux anyway. My understanding is that 3D printing may already be cost competitive for titanium components (a difficult material to machine, and expensive as well), with use and improved technology 3D printing will become competitive for more materials over time.

Truthbetold


Next question;

http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/politics/obamas_auchi_problem.php


yes, it's groundbreaking in the admission that water is wet, and some other details, but it's underwhelming, I put together a better product
a year and a half ago

Posted by: narciso | January 16, 2014 at 08:57 PM

narciso

In that better product you put toghether on the subject of Nadhmi Auchi.

Did you mention the Chicago fundraiser Auchi and Rezko did for Bush 2004 campaign?

peter

Daddy @12:14 great point about Podesta, he's a slimy Chicago boss.
LUN, a blog post about him.

Frau Gummibärchen

Crikey! Meryl Streep and pal Harvey Weinstein are going to blow this away. Remember what Meryl did to the apple industry? Harvey's no light weight, either.

narciso

Yes, but we've already read that book, that was the template that the Sarah Diamond and Joyce foundation used though.

Holly

Marlene, I see you were here this morning. In response to a comment in a couple of threads back, yes my family will be in Maine next month for the Madawaska snowmobile festival. I have not been able to go the last five years or so because I'm busy babysitting grandbabies (so that sons and DILs can go). We would take the grand babies to the festival, but we have so many grandkids it embarrasses my DILs when the good people of Madawaska insist upon housing us all in their homes. Madawaskans take pride in the fact that there's only one motel in the area and plan to celebrate should it ever close. And they heap mucho scorn upon visitors who suggest using such accommodations. Twenty six years have conditioned me, Hubby, and sons to the practice. DIL's not so much. The next time I fly to Bangor, however, I would love to meet with you. :)

Holly

BTW, my email is chinogarza at aol. Feel free to contact me anytime. That goes to all JOMers.

narciso

well the last mayor was arrested, curious she complains now;


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_Zimmer

Holly

Hubby just now corrected me. Apparently the Madawaska festival has been cancelled. The snowmobile club is having a celebration.

narciso

They'll probably be running her for higher office zoon,


http://www.politickernj.com/tags/dawn-zimmer

Truthbetold

narciso

No Mas on Auchi?

Let's try an easy one for you.

Do you support Richard Perle?

Ignatz

--Guns are manufactured objects which face Prohibition from various government agencies... Thus the desire to show that any Prohibition is doomed to fail.--

I suppose but it is already obviously bound to fail by looking at the thousands of machinists who can already build guns from scratch or something like the Pakistani back alley gun industry which makes serviceable guns using the most primitive processes imaginable, not quarter or half million dollar industrial printers.

Presumably the point is eventually anyone will eventually be able push the printer's button and make a gun, but that is not necessary to defeat prohibitionists anymore than bathtub gin anyone could make at home was necessary to end run Prohibition.

In contrast to Mr. Say's law, when something is prohibited demand creates its own supply.

Jack is Back!

I wonder if Dawn's hubby is following this 3d printing advancements:)

3D printing is a natural machining evolution.
We have gone from pedal-powered lathing, to hydraulic or electric powered machining to numerical control to now this. Difference is in material management and production precision. Big market, eventually, in nuclear power and aerospace where quality assurance requirements and reverse engineering make cannibilization of spare parts a distant memory.

narciso

Speaking of which, I learned from Rupert's Gazzette, that they want name the aTF building after Elliot Ness,

Captain Hate

Speaking of which, I learned from Rupert's Gazzette, that they want name the aTF building after Elliot Ness,

They've already named a Great Lakes Brewery offering, the best of their non-seasonals imo, after him; after all he used to knock back a few at the site of the brew pub. That should be adequate.

narciso

She's shocked gambling is going on here;

http://hoboken411.com/archives/59104

henry

Ig, all true. However it must be noted that politicians as a group do not know machinists or what they can do, but they all know computer printers that work in spite of their own technical incompetence. Thus printed guns are scarier than those potentially mass produced in machine shops far from urban cores.

An aside is the viral marketing freebie for manufacturers of 3D home printers as well as the industrial ones.

Marlene

Holly,the freezing rain,fog and warm temps haven't been good conditions for the trails. In fact,the thaw has caused ice jams in the streams flowing into the Penobscot. Two Coast Guard cutters are breaking the ice in the river near Bangor. Please,the next time you are in Maine,let me know!

Sandy Saturdaze

Henry is correct.

I originally saw this technique--laser sintering--at a major defense aircraft manufacturing facility in Texas, circa late 90s. Was used to build unitary aircraft wings, that is, the wing, fuel tank, tubing etc was all a single piece of metal, and of course, no fasteners. No armies of "expert" (union) employees working 24/7 shift work needed... Just one employee to ensure the CAD file was loaded and the laser(s) were performing appropriately. The rest was all automatic. (Some eventual assembly required.)

Then, the "printer" cost was somewhat higher, in the tens of millions of dollars. Now, the cost of said printer is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Don't get hung up on the aspect of simply manufacturing guns. This technique will distribute and decentralize manufacturing across many horizontal and vertical boundaries.

Not just "metal" printing, but for other materials, e.g. plastics.

Tremendous labor dislocations.

Jack is Back (On Ring 5 of Typhus Hell)

Tremendous labor dislocations.

Sandy,

We'll just add it to all other reasons Obama has so much unemployment, you know, ATM's and now this:)

rich@gmu

we have one at school and a few classes about it (hum something for the summer). Suppose since we build ics it was only a matter of time for it to scale up.

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

Like a printer it makes a copy of whatever you feed it (or the specifications for what you wish it to make), except it "prints" a three dimensional object rather than a document or photo.

Can it print a gun then a car, then a letter without being revamped? Or can it only print one thing?

Same question to Henry.

henry

Rich, take that class! It will do wonders for your ability to be employed in the future.

rich@gmu

well just raise the minimum wage. that'll fix all the problems.

Truthbetold

--Does this comment board know who Nadhmi Auchi is?--

We're more interested in who you are.
Enlighten us.

Posted by: Ignatz | January 16, 2014 at 09:03 PM

Ignatz

You wanted to be enlightened. Did you Know that Auchi and Rezko had a fundraiser for Bush in Chicago for the 2004 campaign?

henry

Jane, right now it can print whatever thing is next in the print queue. I assume it is constrained to a single raw material for the printed item, but big bucks to whoever figures out how to print mixed material items. (That would be the SciFi maker required to colonize the Moon or Mars).

rich@gmu

henry-

have to get some pre reqs out of the way, but there is a whole manufacturing pathway (ic, pcb, classes) in the engineering school although I don't think electronics manufacture is a specialization. they have seminars on 3d printing, a quick search shows they have been looking at building medical implants (bones?). interesting stuff.

matt

Gun barrel steel is very specific. It has to withstand extremely high pressures over a lifetime of typically at least 10,000 rounds being fired through it. The molecular structure has to be just right and there can be no imperfections.

As far as I can tell the print- a- gun cannot do this.

Further, if you think printer cartridges are expensive, wait till you see the cost for these kinds of specialty materials.HP's biggest profit center is its cartridge division.

We've been playing around with this in the electronics industry for years and it has very limited applications. A friend of mine almost went BK after opening a service doing 3D printing.

Great for modeling and prototyping but the cost has to come way way down and the materials are limited.

rich@gmu

maybe I'll build a flying car or a supercharger for the one I have...

rich@gmu

maybe I can build a 3d model of a cheap apartment close to work and school and a grocery store.

rich@gmu

henry-

>>>but big bucks to whoever figures out how to print mixed material items. (That would be the SciFi maker required to colonize the Moon or Mars).<<<

sounds like a kickstarter idea.

henry

Rich, medical implants (joint replacement) was an early candidate for imaging to CAD/CAM alongside military spare parts scan from paper plot to raster to 3D solid models for quicker production. Both require one off pieces to exact specs. As it is, joint replacements need to be custom fit -- better medical outcomes if the customization is of the implant rather than removal of bone. 3D printing would allow faster turnaround and better fit than machining pre sized blanks. No idea of comparative costs.

Jack is Back!

matt,

Like all engineering technology its evolutionary. Right now they are dealing with the dimensional and precision machining issues. Don't be surprised that there is another set of engineers, techies and scientists working on materials technology to advance the efficacy of 3D Printing (which is actually a misnomer since it is far from printing but rather building or molding).

I can also see big time progress in advanced materials development much like the quantum leap from aluminum to carbon fiber. I am waiting for some one like Bill Gates mother wondering why would anyone want a 3D Printer?

Who knows by the time all this comes together we won't be using carbon steel for rifles or even what we consider a rifle. Rail guns for all:)

narciso

well Frederick only has to finish up those thorium reactors, and it will be ready to go,

Jack is Back (On Ring 5 of Typhus Hell)

CH,

Remember the Haribo sugar free gummi bear Amazon review you posted? Well, Iowahawk had posted it on twitter and one of his commentors noted to also read the "Customer Questions and Answers".

Customer Questions & Answers
Q: Can I get 535 orders for our Congress?
A:
Sure. We would be happy to assist you with this. Let us know if you need help ordering.
See all 35 answers

Danube on iPad

"Did you Know that Auchi and Rezko had a fundraiser for Bush in Chicago for the 2004 campaign?"

This is some of the funniest shit to show up on this site in a long, long time.

rich@gmu talking to my future Star Trek replicator

Computer, build Romulan Disruptor.

Jack is Back (On Ring 5 of Typhus Hell)

DoT,

We survived Anduril, Sara, Sylvia, DuDa, KaKa, BuBu, Anne and Dana Ward (I always put him in last place:) and we will survive this as long as no one has recently installed abdominal stitiches.

Skoot

We make test/prototype parts with these that survive ballistic launch 10-15k G's. Very fast and good quality parts. This is just the beginning.

Truthbetold

"Did you Know that Auchi and Rezko had a fundraiser for Bush in Chicago for the 2004 campaign?"

This is some of the funniest shit to show up on this site in a long, long time.

Posted by: Danube on iPad | January 18, 2014 at 03:37 PM

Danube

Is that a Yes or a No to the question?

Dave (in MA)


An early 3-D printer.

Danube on iPad

"Is that a Yes or a No to the question?"

It is a "this is more fun than a barrel of monkeys" to the question.

Frau Gummibärchen

Perhaps 3-D printers can bring better trolls. We could use some.


henry

Dave, that is a home extruder.

Truthbetold

Danube

Clearly the question is to difficult for you. Beyond your comprehension.

Danube on iPad

The insurmountable problem facing the prohibitionists is not the manufacture of handguns, either in the factory or in the home. It is the 200 million or so handguns that are already in the possession of the citizenry. Some of mine are nearly a hundred years old, and they function as beautifully today as they did when brand new. They're indestructible, and they ain't going anywhere.

Stephanie lots of surprises in the BCS bowls

A gun is not much use without ammo. That is where the prohibitionists will focus. That and the materiel components to make your own. Think narcotics controls on black powder that you have c to sign for to buy.

Truthbetold

While danube searches the internet for an answer.

Would anyone else like to tell me how smart they are, and how far in over my head I am?

NKonIPad

DaveinMa-- too funny.


Question-- so who here ate play doh clay?......
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

J. Fred Muggs

TBT,

I'll answer your question: Yes, I knew of the fund raiser and in fact, I attended it as a representative of Bush but only to pick up the check. When I handed it to Dubya, he asked where I got it and I told him Tony R and that creep "the Iraqi".

Dubya swore under his breath that he would deal with the Iraqi in good time. Then he asked me if Ayers was there and I told him "no". He breathed a sigh of relief knowing that any hint of Ayers involved with the Bush family would be very difficult to deal with. I did tell him that Jerry Wright was there and he just hung his head took a deep breath.

When he looked up he had changed. He was more resolute and more confident that this is going to work. Kerry will never be able to win Ohio, now. We had the Chicago fix in and they would take care of Ohio. But what he really worried about was how to hide his relationship with Perle even though he had nothing to do with Illinois or Ohio.

I told him to not avoid it but embrace it and let Clarice do the rest. Dubya smiled at me and told me that some day I would be another Scooter or possibly another Armitage. It was the proudest moment of my life.

Does that satisfy your insatiable curiostiy?

Man Tran on iPhone

I had a crown replaced about a year ago. Our (lady) dentist has a new operation and her husband runs the front office and within that he had a CNC milling machine that could just as well have been a 3D printer. When the tooth nub was ready, they scanned the space around it, picked a virtual CAD model tooth to fit the space, tweaked the clearances/interferences desired and sent the results to the micro mill. About 20 min. later they popped the newly created ceramic crown into place with a little UV activated adhesive and I'm out the door.

Truthbetold

J. Fred Muggs @4:25

Good. Now were getting somewhere.

So you are aware of the Auchi, Rezko Bush connection. But you're not aware of Perle's connection to Chicago.

Is that correct?

J. Fred Muggs

I was told he was from Wisconsin not Chicago but then as everyone here will tell you when it comes to voting there is no difference.

Truthbetold

Muggs@4:44

Who said anything about where Perle is from? I didn't.

Man Tran on iPhone

Two friends have had run-ins with Gates. Herb M. sat across from Gates at the Company. Gates tried to get Herb fired. Casey told him to pound sand. A decade or so later, another mutual friend had two run-ins with Gates re Russia and Gates apparently didn't win any friends as a result. (I obviously don't have total knowledge on the particulars, but even the better ones can still leave a trail of steaming piles.)

J. Fred Muggs

Look, guy, I am just a dumb chimpanzee.

I do whatever Fitz and Bags tell me to do. Ya gotta live, right?

I mean how'd you like to get by on bananas alone?

narciso

I recall something about that.

Truthbetold

Muggs@5:00

Your right. I should have recognized from your response @4:25 that
that was the case. I apologize.

Ignatz

LOL, J Fred.

Ignatz

--Clearly the question is to difficult for you. Beyond your comprehension.--

Apparently it's catching because your response to my question was, as the lawyers say, non-responsive.

Ignatz

--About 20 min. later they popped the newly created ceramic crown into place with a little UV activated adhesive and I'm out the door.--

Did they machine a little gun inside it?

Truthbetold

Ignatz

What was your question?

Skoot

As interesting as 3D printing is, the real deal is steering small cal. DARPA actually has it working. Game changer.

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

J. Fred Muggs,

You rock!

jimmyk

Oh, man, talk about a mismatch, kaka tried to take on Taranto today on Twitter. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

@jamestaranto

@kathykattenburg Putting aside your misunderstanding of the subject matter, what gives you the idea I'm "furious"?

and so on.

Ignatz

--What was your question?--

Who are you?

Rick Ballard

If only we possessed a Rosetta Stone to unlock the secret of the Ancient Cretin dialect in which they miscommunicate, we might be able to laugh harder at the connect the dot inferences they absolutely fail to make.

Truthbetold

Ignatz

As the lawyers say, that's irrelevant.

If you feel strongly about full discloser of commenters identity on this board, perhaps you should lead by example for all to follow. Otherwise, as judges say, case dismissed.

Truthbetold

Fred J. Muggs

Since you brought up Dick Armitage

Do you know one of the main ways the Sinaloa cartel was bringing drugs into the country and Chicago during the Bush administration?

MAJOR MEXICAN NEWSPAPER’S INVESTIGATION MAKES STUNNING CONCLUSION ABOUT THE U.S. GOV’T AND NOTORIOUS SINALOA CARTEL

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/13/report-the-dea-really-did-strike-a-deal-with-mexicos-most-notorious-deadly-drug-cartel/

miss Marple

I sure wish we could have another thread. iPads are irritating with how you have to scroll down every time you refresh.

Plus I am tired of 20 questions.

J. Fred Muggs

Meet TBT: Ernie Souchak.

I had to work with Belushi once but he since I didn't do dope he was offended and asked that I be replaced by Dan A.

To this day, I miss wearing that hat:(

narciso

that worthy of Vizzini and Inigo Montoya;


https://twitter.com/jamestaranto

rse

A perfectly delightful ruling out of the 9th Circuit. http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/01/i-got-rights/

Truthbetold

J. Fred Muggs

I will respect your aversion to learning. I know for many, ignorance is bliss.

centralcal

Miss Marple - when using iPad, click on the date and time stamp of the last comment in the thread that you have read - then, when you refresh, it will pick up from there.

Ignatz

--As the lawyers say, that's irrelevant.--

Well, not really, because you are making accusations about a poster here who is not anonymous whatsoever. Specifically you are accusing her of non disclosure of conflicts of interest based on your knowledge of her true identity. One who tosses such accusations around shouldn't expect or assert anonymity for the very same reason you accuse clarice; you may have a towering conflict of interest yourself.

--If you feel strongly about full discloser of commenters identity on this board, perhaps you should lead by example for all to follow. Otherwise, as judges say, case dismissed.--

When I start accusing you of professional misconduct or misleading the reading public you can then plausibly assert I should disclose my identity publicly. Until then I'd say you can safely be dismissed as a crank with some weird, obsessive ax to grind.

Jane-Rebel Alliance1

RSE there was a woman on Fox this morning talking about Common Core. I thought it might be you - southern accent but from Little Rock. She was very good tho.

Ignatz

As an aside, I have made it known here many times that I am compelled to maintain my anonymity because I have been locked in civil court with a lunatic for many years and in order to comment freely have to remain anonymous.
What's your excuse?

miss Marple

Centralcal, thank you SO much!!

Truthbetold

Ignatz@6:46

There has been a public accusation made that Clarice Feldman did not disclose a conflict of interest she had, when she reported on the subject of Sibel Edmonds credibility.

Get your facts straight if your going to speak for Clarice.

Plamegate Update: American Thinker fails to disclose conflicts of interest!

http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2014/01/15/plamegate-update-american-thinker-fails-to-disclose-conflicts-of-interest/

Truthbetold

Ignatz@6:49

I don't need an excuse!

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