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rich@gmu

maybe the Dems can launch a war on sugar next.

cell bars for candy bars.

Ignatz

Those numbers are largely meaningless, I suspect.

They have to rely on, at best, educated guesses, at worst WAGs, apportioning heart disease, various cancers, strokes, etc to diet and lifestyle rather than genetics, environmental factors and random, unknown causes.

Jane

Wait: Doesn't a joint lead to a candy bar?

rich@gmu

Exposure to secondhand smoke causes nearly 42,000 deaths each year among adults in the United States:1
•Secondhand smoke causes 7,333 annual deaths from lung cancer.1
•Secondhand smoke causes 33,951 annual deaths from heart disease.1


looks like all lung cancers are classified as smoking related. and hummm, if smoking tobacco is bad then why is weed ok. setting aside the intoxicating effects, it is smoke in the lungs.

**fd: i'm trying to quit smoking.**

rich@gmu

Jane-

Cheetos and taco bell and brownies.

or so I've heard.

Jane

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D., Texas) declared the U.S. Constitution to be 400 years old Wednesday on the House floor, which would mean it was signed in 1614.

And she was there to watch it.

Threadkiller

 if marijuana use were more widespread it might (or might not!) be associated with more deaths, such as from traffic accidents.

Roof hits in a rollover...

maryrose

Jane:
No one knows American History anymore.
If people are this ignorant I don't believe they should be in Congress voting on issues that affect our everyday lives. They are just not qualified for the job.

Jane

It's because to get elected you have to be good at running for office. You don't have to be smart, or qualified or honest or anything else. You just need good marketing. That has always disturbed me. I propose an SAT for government office.

Thomas Collins

I think one has to be careful to speccify extent of use. I'd be a lot more worried about a relative who had seven drinks per day than I would be about one who smoked seven Camel straights per day, especially if the drinks occurred before driving or operating heavy equipment.

George

To say nothing about the Sugar Act of 1764 as a cause of the Revolution.

maryrose

Jane:
I second your propasal only let's make it the ACT. SAT is under review and undergoing changes to make it more like the ACT which determines "what you actually know not just what you think".
H&R:
I like ant feathers too but where would they go on an ant?

George

BTW the Representatives' full name is Sheila Stonewall Jackson Robert E. Lee

Thomas Collins

It's amazing to me that tobacco gets so many more harmful votes than alcohol. I've known relatives who were alcoholics and relatives who smoked. Alcohol causes far more of a downward spital than smoking. One can be very productive and be a smoker. Alcohol, heroin, pills, crack and the like can send one to the rooming house or the street very quickly.

Thomas Collins

Make that spiral.

See what the bottle can do to you?

Miss Marple

Thomas Collins,

As a substitute teaher I had to repeatedly sit through anti-smoking stuff, including looking at the actual lungs of a dead smoker, in a grade school presentation.

I thought they were too young for that, but what do I know? Teachers seem to get a lot of free materials and such from the anti-smoking people, so it gets into the thinking patterns very early.

This explains the answers on the survey.

matt

In the mid-1970s, approximately 37% of U.S. adults were current smokers. In 1975, the lung cancer mortality rate among men was about 76 deaths per 100,000 persons; among women, it was about 18 deaths per 100,000 persons.

In 2007, approximately 20% of U.S. adults were current smokers. The decrease in the prevalence of current smoking seen since the 1970s has been a major factor in the decline of the U.S. cancer death rate overall—and especially the lung cancer death rate among men. In 2007, the lung cancer death rate among men was 65 per 100,000 individuals; among women, it was 40 deaths per 100,000 individuals.

CDC Statistics

Despite the fact that the percentage of the population smoking has dropped by 17% the mortality rate has increased. This doesn't seem to jibe with the numbers.

Thomas Collins

Thanks for that insight, Miss Marple. When I look back to my school days, I do recall more anti-tobacco stuff than anti-alcohol(although I must concede that none of us took health class too seriously).

GMax

Miss this one earlier, NBC/WSJ is historically very friendly to Zero, but he is in downward spiral and is a stinking albatross around every Democrat neck. Could not happen to a nicer bunch of folks:

Barack Obama and his Democratic Party are facing difficult political headwinds less than eight months before November’s midterm elections, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. Obama’s job-approval rating has dropped to a low point of 41 percent, never a good position for the party controlling the White House; By a 33 percent to 24 percent margin, Americans say their vote will be to signal opposition to the president rather than to signal support, though 41 percent say their vote will have nothing to do about Obama; Forty-eight percent of voters say they’re less likely to vote for a candidate who’s a solid supporter of the Obama administration, versus 26 percent who say they’re more likely to vote for that candidate; And Republicans hold a one-point edge over Democrats on which party registered voters prefer to control Congress, 44 percent to 43 percent. While that’s within the poll’s margin of error, Republicans have traditionally fared well in elections when they’ve held a slight lead on this question.

“The wind is in our face,” says Democratic pollster Fred Yang of Hart Research, who conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff. “There is an advantage for Republicans right now.”


Thomas Collins

If rubbers had been distributed at my health class, there would have been no talk about safe sex, but a rush to the bubblers to fill the rubbers with water in preparation for a water balloon fight. Girls as well as boys.

GMax

Apparently its the same poll as TM found for Sugar/Pot. Not its no longer OT!

hit and run

maryrose:
I like ant feathers too but where would they go on an ant?

His headdress:

Account Deleted

"This doesn't seem to jibe with the numbers."

You're not using the correct dyslexic scientistic approach, Matt. You may also need to refresh yourself with some of the peck and drool indoctrination mentioned by Miss Marple.

It's also possible your IQ is not within the range required to fully integrate the information provided. Do you prefer words and numbers to simple pictures?

Old Lurker

Please don't focus too much on Matt's numbers. If they decide the lung cancer death rate stayed too high after smoking decreased 50%, then they will go back and blame my asbestos all over again and I don't want to go through that again.

So drop the figures and stick with pretty pictures please.

centralcal

You guys simply HAVE to see this photo. John Kerry tweeted it!!! (He ought to be embarrassed by it.)

BE AFRAID. BE VERY, VERY AFRAID.

Ranger

Just out of curiosity, how many people who smoke pot also smoke cigarettes?

Porchlight

OT,

If anyone watches Jimmy Kimmel, which I hope no one does, he is broadcasting from Austin/SXSW this week, and tonight there *might* be a segment where people are being interviewed on the street, and some of them *might* look like homeless band members shooting a music video, and one of those guys might be Mr. Porchlight. ;)

This town has jumped the shark, I tell you. Bieber and Gaga are here and Edward Snowden talked to an audience at SXSW Interactive via the internet.

In other news Mr. Porch's main band the Gourds, although on indefinite self-induced hiatus from playing shows and stuff, are being inducted into the Austin Music Awards Hall of Fame tonight and most of them will be present to accept the honor. So that's something, I guess.

Jack is Back!

China says they have found the plane but it was actually a guy sitting in his pajamas using a satellite recon photo app. We will see. In the South China Sea near the coast of Vietnam.

Old Lurker

A question for you New Yorkers:

Last September and again today I drove back from Nantucket via the Tappan Zee Bridge over the Hudson. Both times I saw much barge dredging activity on the whole width of the river north of the bridge but today the line of work had moved downstream in the intervening months.

Is that related to the dioxin (?) cleanup forced on GE (?) a few years ago?

Just wondering.

Jim

After finding out how liberals distort research with "global warming" to support their agenda how can anyone trust the research that tobacco and especially second hand smoke are lethal?

Jane

I second your propasal only let's make it the ACT. SAT is under review and undergoing changes to make it more like the ACT which determines "what you actually know not just what you think".

RSE can design it.

The Chinese say they found the plane.

NK(withnewsoftware)

OL-- they are preparing the river bottom for a new Tappen Zee bridge.

Old Lurker

Thanks NK. That makes more sense. Big bucks being spent.

NK(withnewsoftware)

CC-- Kerry really is Mr. Potato Head, spud face is too kind.

PS: the photo looks like a frame from a hostage video. What a tool Kerry is.

Captain Hate

John Kerry tweeted it!!! (He ought to be embarrassed by it.)

Point on the doll where the botox didn't go.

Jack is Back!

OL,

My old firm bid the new bridge, but the state pulled the bids and we had to protest as the other bidders. I haven't followed in a while but there seems to be a little NY style slippery bidding process underway.

Sue

Porch,

Congrats to the Gourds. I may have to watch Kimmell tonight.

centralcal

Congratulations to Mr. Porchlight and the band on the HoF award!

Jack is Back!

OL,

I forgot to add that there is still a push to name the new bridge The Pete Seeger bridge. Enjoy your future travels:)

NK(withnewsoftware)

CaptH@5:42-- heh-- too funny.

Jane

I'm going to post this again, because I don't think it got enough attention:

The Chinese say they found the plane.

NK(withnewsoftware)

The ChiCom photo-- small grainy image certainly looks like the verticle tail assembly of a big jet. A big piece of the plane; why didn't the tail shatter on impact with the sea surface?

Account Deleted

Was it close to where they shot it down?

NK(withnewsoftware)

Here's the BBC Tweet/photo: https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking

clarice

That's just Kerry's idea of how to look manly and commanding.

As for Sheila Jackson Lee..NEVER, I say NEVER...fail to credit the institutions which credentialed this moron B.A. Yale, J.D. UVa.

matt

There is a smoke popular in the 'hood called a blunt. They take a cigar, which by the way creates much more tar, smoke, nicotine etc and hollow it out, replacing much of the filler with pot.

So in addition to getting all of the bad muck from the weed, you get a massive dose of tobacco smoke as well. It's a win-win situation for the knuckleheads.

clarice

CH earns today's Chicken dinner: "Point on the doll where the botox didn't go." ROFL

Captain Hate

Wow, I didn't realize the Gourds did so many covers in concert: Dirty Water, Birthday, Take Me Back to Tulsa, Loving Cup (great choice that; I don't think I've ever heard anybody, including the Stones, do it in concert) and I Fought the Law. Plus there's this gig where Wammo from the Asylum Street Spankers sat in: http://ia600508.us.archive.org/1/items/Gourds2007-11-10RiverhawkMusicFestivalBrooksvilleFL/Gourds2007-11-10RiverhawkMusicFestivalBrooksvilleFL.mp3?cnt=0

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/Gourds2007-11-10RiverhawkMusicFestivalBrooksvilleFL.html

DrJ

Waiting on my 6' leggy brunette...

NK(withnewsoftware)

Take it easy Doc.

DrJ

NK, she has a PhD, so all is well.

Dave (in MA)
That's just Kerry's idea of how to look manly and commanding.
Can you imagine having to be so close to Lurch that you could smell him? I can't stand close-talkers. I got waylaid by a close-talking former neighbor last week at the supermarket and by the time I escaped I had a headache.
Jack is Back!

The ChiComs are only stealing American secrets again.

Mike Seaberger found it on Tomrod this Sunday.

So, now the attention will turn to whether this is actually the plane and what brought it down. What if they find a blonde sitting on the copilots lap?

Miss Marple

I am going to go watch the news.

This plane thing is giving me a headache.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Ukraine-- pretty clear headed analysis in the link. Although it discounts what the Tartars think about this Novy Russia: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116905/russia-wants-much-more-crimea

Jack is Back!

What do you think is on the news, MM? LOL

Jack is Back!

NK,

Mean't to ask - how are you getting home tonight? Is Metro North running again or still shut down?

Ignatz


Lena Dunham considering giving up acting.

Whatever you do, don't point to any place on the doll.

NK(withnewsoftware)

JiB-- thanks for asking Metro-North is operating again, with delays.

Ignatz-- be nice.... hmmm... OTOH, the Dunham kid really is a pig, snark away my man.

Ignatz

--Waiting on my 6' leggy brunette...--

Aren't we all?
Course 6' is right in the ol comfort zone for some of us. :)

GMax

totally unfair to pigs everywhere you pigist...

Captain Hate

Lena Dunham considering giving up acting.

I'll never think of thespians the same way again.

narciso

Interesting since the Tatars, are the original occupants of the peninsula;

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-23-ukraines-interim-prime-minister-meets-obama/

lyle

NK, she has a PhD, so all is well.

Amy Farah Fowler?

lyle

Lena Dunham considering giving up acting.

She was giving the porn industry a bad name.

GMax

Rarer than a blue moon, we have Paul Begala making sense! Here:

Dems should not try to spin this loss. We have to redouble our efforts for 2014. Too much at stake. #noexcuses

Captain Hate

Teh Forehead making sense? Unpossible. Redouble the efforts? Can you go further than full retard?

narciso

As with Morbo, Lena gives me gas, an ironic reference, some might say, to the new Ms, Jolly

narciso

the pattern looks very familiat from this politico piece;


Republicans complain Feinstein’s version of events is hardly the full picture — some of the details are classified, they note — and others point to potential wrongdoing by the Senate staff in investigating the situation.

rich@gmu

gonna have to throw a yellow card for taunting on DrJ...

Beasts of England

Fantastic news, Porchlight!!

GMax

CH let them deny reality, there will be more of them on the ledges the first Wednesday in November that way. I might be tempted to stay outside and yell "jump" too...

narciso

that comes from this piece;

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=39F7E040-C6C5-43D8-82B1-486FD3380937

when the Dems start acting so high and mighty,
I check the silverware,

NK(withnewsoftware)

speaking of disgusting pigs; roseanne barr sued by Mr & Mrs zimmerman for tweeting the ir address. I hope she has to pay up, big time: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-zimmerman-parents-sue-roseanne-bar-20140311,0,3636401.story

Captain Hate

Jonestown 2 GMax; Drink the koolaid. I said all of it!!!

miss Marple

narciso,

"The louder he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons."

jimmyk

Congrats to Mr. Porchlight!

here seems to be a little NY style slippery bidding process underway.

Shocking, isn't it?

According to CNN the pictures of the suspected plane wreckage were taken Sunday. Not sure why the delay. But it was in between Malaysia and Vietnam as first thought.

narciso

Yes, that's the sentiment, this puts her in the category of 'devil's advocate' for thet misunderstood lad, Abu Zubeydah

narciso

Rizzo covers part of this, any records that identified CiA contractors, had to be redacted, but this is a special magic trick;


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/03/12/221033/despite-vows-of-help-white-house.html

chemman

Posted by: matt | March 12, 2014 at 05:13 PM

What doesn't jibe?
1970 total per 100,000 is (76 + 18) 94 per 100k
2007 total per 100,000 is (65 + 40) 105 per 100k

So the lung cancer death rate has increased while the smoking rate has decreased. It suggests that smoking is correlated to lung cancer but it certainly isn't a strong causative factor.

narciso

So did the plane, make the turn or not?

hit and run

I am so happy to hear about the Gourds, Porch.

And CH - thanks for those links. On the first one I just got to 9:07 . . . if you listen closely I think you'll notice that they're celebrating my birthday.

jimmyk

Not if this is the wreckage. It was right on course toward Beijing. Unless it turned just before crashing. But nothing is confirmed.

Beasts of England

I also want to thank Capt. Hate for the musical links!

hit, was that you in the background singing?

hit and run

It must have been me.

Ignatz

--As with Morbo, Lena gives me gas, an ironic reference, some might say, to the new Ms, Jolly--

I'm reaching for my Rosetta Stone; narciso edition, but it's not handy.

narciso

the Hill link in the LUN, when Jolly was her boss,

Ignatz

Am I the only one who has a helluva time deciphering who is saying what to who in twitter and twitchy posts?

narciso

Well in this case, Yglesias was struck by multiple cluebats, at
least one wielded by Nick Searcy

Ignatz

Too funny narc; Jesse Jackson Jr is number nine on the list you linked (from 2010) of the 50 most beautiful DC crabspreaders.
At the end;

“What’s next?” Jackson asks. “GQ?”

Only if GQ is featuring prison work release orange this year.

boatbuilder

Alcohol has sugar as its primary component! Ban fruit! Ban vegetables! Ban sugar cane! Tax them all!

GMax

This for CH from a poster on a different site I frequent. He finds Mr Plaid Suits to be compelling and urges them to double down on the Obamacare cheerleading:

No, no. The pajama boy is right. Obamacare is super fantastic. I bet if Sink had talked about Obamacare more, she probably would have won. Please don't make that mistake next time, dems. Please, talk A LOT about Obamacare and how strongly you support it. Especially in North Carolina, Montana, South Dakota, Michigan, Colorado and Arkansas. Be sure to mention job lock and how great it is that prisoners are finally getting the health care they deserve.

LOL queue up Debbie Does America.

boatbuilder

You are not alone, Iggy.

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