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Dublindave 2016

Cantor out=immigration reform dead=hispanics seek payback=Hillary wins 2016=Democrats control White house for 16 years...maybe more.

MarkO

"a Tea Party insurgent."

Not you, too, TM?

Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz

Didn't the doc tell you NOT to mix beer and clozapine, WeeDavey.

lyle

The way Shrillary's book tour faceplant is going, she'll be lucky to hitchhike back to Chappaqua (or however it's spelled). Memo to Weeboy: When you have Diane Sawyer (!) grilling Cankles and getting non-answers, evasions, and gobblespeak, your team is already losing. BIG.

Frau Fragezeichen

Done in by his staff or himself?

NK(withnewsoftware)

Beware Wee Davey beware. Hillary's approval is barely majority despite 23 years of constant media fluffing. She's lost 1/5th of her approval just by being secy of State for several years. How does anyone screw up the Secy of State job? it's resume fluff. SHE DID. Beware... Fauxchahontas is in your nominee future.

lyle

Congrats to Soylent. He nailed it:

Later, after conceding that the State Department lists Haqqani Network as a terrorist group, Hagel insisted that America did not negotiate directly with the Haqqani Network for Bergdahl’s release.
NK(withnewsoftware)

Thanks Soylent/Lyle. This Obummer crew just insults our collective intelligence-- even DuDa's. They are so frikkin' incompetent and moronic, they can keep any story straight, they make this shite up as they go along. Just....

centralcal

Bret Baier ‏@BretBaier 54s

FBI Director James Comey confirms that the bureau's Phoenix branch has opened a criminal investigation of the Veterans Affairs Department.

------

Hhhmmm. There should be many others besides just Phoenix.

lyle

More from the faceplant. Five Guys Named Moe aren't really going to be a problem:

“These five guys are not a threat to the United States,” says Clinton. “They are a threat to the safety and security of Afghanistan and Pakistan. It’s up to those two countries to make the decision once and for all that these are threats to them. So I think we may be kind of missing the bigger picture here. We want to get an American home, whether they fell off the ship because they were drunk or they were pushed or they jumped, we try to rescue everybody.”

It was a "rescue" you see.

NK(withnewsoftware)

According to Hillary! we would screw the Afghanis and Pakis to 'rescue' some drunk serviceman?..... GENIUS!

Even soopergenius HildaBeast ties herself up in knots trying to justify releasing terrorists. That's the bottomline to all this... the 5 terrorists walked and they will kill innocents. This will resonate in Nov '14 and beyond.

Rick B

"Done in by his staff or himself?"

Himself. He forgot to hire the guy who is supposed to stand beside him whispering "Thou art mortal." during the chariot rides.

Old Lurker test

"Done in by his staff or himself?"

Who cares, Frau? Either way he deserves what he got.

mad jack

Bull&$@?! No one in Cantor's district gave a bleep about his staff. He didn't lose his way with establishment republicans. He lost his way with his constituents. Because his staff didn't return Ericsson's phone calls did not cause his defeat.

Old Lurker test

Besides...wasn't it Hillary who was too busy to read those emails? I am sick and tired of leaders who do not take responsibility for the actions of their staffs.

Read Ike's message had D Day failed and wonder where those folks have all gone.

Hillary at 54%? She must be using Cantor's pollsters.

lyle

The times I heard EC on TV, he--if I may borrow from DoT--made my skin crawl. Unctuous, fake smile, a faux (to my ears) southern accent. Ugh. Good Riddance.

NK(withnewsoftware)

mad jack-- I agree with that. The suburban Richmond Repubs are sick of the DC Imperial City and it's big shots-- I think that's true for Repub voters all around the country. I hope and pray it's true for the indy voters in November.

hit and run

Frau:
Done in by his staff or himself?

A Cantor thread moved so quickly to Hillary and now we're talking about Bill?

lyle

Zing!

Threadkiller

Give that man a cigar!

lyle

Another zing!

fdcol63

Cantor's loss should prove that Big Money doesn't guarantee victory.

To paraphrase Brat, "Dollars don't vote; people do."

We all need to remember that. Let the donors, bundlers, unions, and lobbyists waste gazillions of dollars on their preferred candidates.

We can always vote for the other candidate, the grassroots candidate that actually took the time to get out in their constituency's neighborhoods, meet the people, and get to know their concerns and desires.

Nothing else will ensure "campaign finance reform" - and lessen the power of lobbyists and other Big Money donors - more than to prove that it takes VOTES, not money, to win elections.

fdcol63

" ... we try to rescue everybody."

It takes a lot of pretentious, unabashed gall to say this after Benghazi.

rse

I am still reading this paper, but it goes to the desired open borders with Mexico and the points MM raised this morning. http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/papers/2014/06/04%20determining%20proper%20scope%20climate%20change%20benefits%20gayer/04_determining_proper_scope_climate_change_benefits.pdf

The global assessment used by the Obama admin to find that benefits are not less than costs does amount to putting non-US citizen needs first. Surprise on that one.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Great pick up fdcol63. Hillary 'rescuing' anyone after her 'what difference at this point does it make ' travesty is a flat out disgrace.

lyle

It takes a lot of pretentious, unabashed gall to say this after Benghazi.

Yep.

Dave (in MA)

The Boston Globe is reporting that Cantor will step down as majority leader.

Porchlight

Jamie Radtke, an established blogger and writer who appears to have worked on Brat's campaign, has a good list of reasons Cantor lost which includes some VA inside baseball stuff (although she doesn't think that's the primary reason for the loss):

http://thebullelephant.com/top-ten-reasons-eric-cantor-lost/

Porchlight

It takes a lot of pretentious, unabashed gall to say this after Benghazi.

AND HOW. Line of the day, should be repeated in every comment section everywhere in response to that quote.

rse

This is the Brookings blurb. Boy, when you have lost Brookings.

President Obama’s proposed rule for limiting carbon dioxide emissions from the nation’s power plants is estimated to have a compliance cost $7.3 billion dollar while providing a climate benefit of $30 billion in 2030. But a new working paper from Ted Gayer and Kip Viscusi suggests that the EPA’s methodology for calculating the benefit represents a shift away from typical practice. A more traditional cost-benefit analysis would estimate climate benefits of only $2 billion to $7 billion – less than the estimated compliance cost of the rule.

The authors write that the assessments used to determine benefits for Obama’s rule has, like other recent EPA proposals to limit greenhouse gases, shifted to a global benefits approach. Rather than considering only the benefits to U.S. citizens, the analysis considers benefits for other countries while Americans bear the full costs.

The implications of this shift go beyond calculations of climate rules. Gayer and Viscusi write that “[I]f applied broadly to all policies, [this practice] would substantially shift the allocation of societal resources.” For example, a global perspective would likely shift immigration policy to one of entirely open borders, would shift away from transfers to low-income U.S. citizens and towards transfers to much lower-income non-U.S. citizens, and would substantially alter U.S. defense policy.

Captain Hate

Rupert circles the drain:

http://minx.cc:1080/?post=349749

centralcal

Yes, Dave - Cantor will step down in July. Meanwhile others jockey for his position. Apparently Cantor is supporting Kevin McCarthy to replace him.

Reid J. Epstein - Wall Street Journal has a particularly UGLY piece about Brat. Nazis and Jews kind of ugly. Looks like Brat better prepare himself for the liberal media - where the truest and deepest ugliness lies.

Captain Hate

Kevin McCarthy should be the next RINO target. Meet the new sellout, same as the old sellout.

Levin warned last night that the GOPe would respond exactly like they're doing. I've yet to see one of the usual suspects congratulate Brat on running a stellar campaign on very little money.

jimmyk

Reid J. Epstein - Wall Street Journal has a particularly UGLY piece about Brat.

I don't see anything there that's particularly damaging, though no doubt some of Brat's writings could be taken out of context, especially when the name 'Hitler' appears.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/06/11/david-brats-writings-hitlers-rise-could-all-happen-again/

Porchlight

I see nothing wrong with the quoted pieces by Brat. Nothing at all. The headline hints at some kind of anti-Jewish feeling that isn't remotely evident in the actual writing.

Brat writes that he has a "sinking feeling" that "it [Hitler] could all happen again" - and says the church spoke out against Hitler, but wasn't forceful enough - this is supposed to be some kind of anti-Jewish pro-Nazi sentiment? Ridiculous.

Miss Marple

Rush has had a couple callers from Virginia, and the assessment on Cantor was exactly like Jamie Radtke said in the link above.

They are FED UP.

jimmyk

Agreed, Porch. The writer seemed to want to make something of the "government has a monopoly on violence" quote, but that is absolutely standard political theory. Again, it can be taken out of context or misunderstood by idiots, but it's not controversial.

srp

Those passages from Brat's writings seemed pretty good to me, as a non-religious classical liberal type. The UGLY part of Epstein's post was the framing--referring to Cantor as the only Jewish Republican and hinting that Brat would somehow have to "answer for" his writings. But the non-hating, blame-ourselves-first attitude in the quoted passage does not send off threatening vibes, and his attack on conservative social policies will make it hard to scare the moderate liberals.

Captain Hate

Here's what Epstein wrote:

David Brat, the Virginia Republican who shocked House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) Tuesday, wrote in 2011 that Hitler’s rise “could all happen again, quite easily.”

Mr. Brat’s remarks, in a 2011 issue of Interpretation: A Journal of Bible and Theology, came three years before he defeated the only Jewish Republican in Congress.

...The full context of his second Holocaust prognostication comes in a section about how if Christian people “had the guts to spread the word,” government would not need to “backstop every action we take.”

Porchlight

I'm surprised at WSJ, jimmyk. I guess I shouldn't be.

Of course the government has a monopoly on violence. That is why we must be on guard against a police state. This is supposed to be subversive?

Porchlight

The only person shocking me is this Epstein fellow for writing such a crude smear.

Captain Hate

I'm listening to Tammy Bruce from last night as she just finds out about Cantor's loss. I'll bet some lucky girl had a really good night.

James D.

That Epstein piece is right up there with the best (worst?) that the dishonest and vile NYT OpEd page has to offer.

Krugman could hardly have done a better job.

Thomas Collins

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/06/11/david-brats-writings-hitlers-rise-could-all-happen-again/

The above is a link to Epstein's post. In the first two paragraphs, Epstein seems to be setting up quotes from Brat that will suggest that Brat has something to answer for in his remarks on Hitler. Epstein then quotes Brat's Hitler's remark in proper context. Epstein then quotes Brat calling both progs and social conservatives to task.

The most logical reading is that Epstein is trying to create a story where none exists, but, by providing long quotes, be in a position to defend himself against a charge of a hit job on Brat. I suppose the other explanation is that Epstein wasn't taught to read properly in school, and didn't teach himself.

Thomas Collins

http://images.politico.com/global/reporter/reid_epstein_photo.jpg

The above image of Epstein shows that he may be young enough to have received an education in which he never had to read carefully.

Porchlight

I thought it was odd, too, TC. I kept reading the passages looking for something that supported Epstein's insinuations.

I guess I could be grateful that Epstein provided the long quotes so I could decide for myself.

Captain Hate

I agree with what TC said but the question then is why didn't Gigot (I assume he's the op-ed editor) tell him to clean it up to not be misleading. Or has every newspaper given up on editors doing anything useful.

jimmyk on iPad

"he may be young enough to have received an education in which he never had to read carefully."

Yes, like Ezra Klein. In particular, he doesn't seem to know what the word "prognostication" means.

Porchlight

Sounds like Hensarling is thinking about contending for Majority Leader:

Robert Costa ✔ @costareports Follow HENSARLING just did walk and talk w/ post for 5 mins- ALL SMILES, upbeat, have never seen him in such good spirits 12:17 PM - 11 Jun 2014
Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

Rush was wonderful today in defining the 'tea party'. Around 12:30 or 12:40 on the show (in case there is a transcript tomorrow).
Very good. 2 good callers from Virginia also.
tea party = American citizens
...both the Dems & establishment Republicans can't stand answering to American citizens.

centralcal

The most logical reading is that Epstein is trying to create a story where none exists....

That is the liberal media game and they are masters at it. Headline and first two sentences often do quite a lot of damage (image shaping) if you don't read any further.

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

from Dave Brat's campaign site -

What We Believe

Dave Brat fully supports the Republican Creed, and any leader who unflinchingly upholds that Creed which reads as follows...

We Believe…

That the free enterprise system is the most productive supplier of human needs and economic justice,
That all individuals are entitled to equal rights, justice, and opportunities and should assume their responsibilities as citizens in a free society,
That fiscal responsibility and budgetary restraints must be exercised at all levels of government,
That the Federal Government must preserve individual liberty by observing Constitutional limitations,
That peace is best preserved through a strong national defense,
That faith in God, as recognized by our Founding Fathers is essential to the moral fiber of the Nation.


Rush pointed out that the DC Republicans don't even believe or support these basic Republican beliefs anymore.

We don't want compromise...we want our political party to be a firewall to STOP the other party's agenda.

centralcal

Kevin McCarthy, Pete Sessions, Jeb Hensarling, Kathy M. Rogers - some names being floated for Cantor position.

Scalise and Roskam vying for McCarthy position of Whip.

So, now read this tweet:

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 8m

GOP source: "we're going to end up with 1, maybe 2 people in (House) leadership who don't qualify as grown-up and/or ready for primetime"

Porchlight

We don't want compromise...we want our political party to be a firewall to STOP the other party's agenda.

Exactly.

The Dems are not afraid to say this when Rs are in power. Why are our guys such wusses?

Miss Marple

So, who is Tapper's GOP source. Someone like Mike Murphy, architect of Bob Dole's fantastic presidential victory? Oh, wait...

Maybe it's Steve Schmidt, genius campaigner for McCain.

The definition of grown-up is not what that source thinks it means.

Captain Hate

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 8m

GOP source: "we're going to end up with 1, maybe 2 people in (House) leadership who don't qualify as grown-up and/or ready for primetime"

Really makes you want to donate to help pay that clown's salary when they call begging, no?

boatbuilder

The Republican Establishment (which DoT assures us doesn't exist) tells us constantly that the most important thing is to win a Republican majority in the Senate and therefore we all need to get behind centrist candidates who can win swing voters, and avoid "fringe" (conservative)candidates who can be portrayed as whackos by the media. And yet instead of getting behind the candidate their own voters nominated--the candidate they have--they immediately begin a smear campaign which the media can and will use to paint the conservative as a whacko. Tomorrow's headlines will read "Moderate Republicans concerned about VA Tea Party Candidate's Disturbing Hitler Writings."
DubDave couldn't have scripted it better. I am thoroughly disgusted with the WSJ. Nobody could write that other than as a deliberate attempt to smear Brat.

AliceH

I had just replied to Tapper: "Heh. And these guys have even less respect for us, their constituents, than they do for fellow Reps."

centralcal

Glad to see MM and CH both took the GOP source with the same disdain as me.

Miss Marple

I see Peter King is out using this loss by Cantor as an opportunity to attack Cruz and Rand Paul again. I fact, he attacks them more than he does Obama.

I am making a list, I tell you.

Oh, and the source of Cantnor's increasingly out-of-touch behavior might be the most troublesome group we have, the professional political consultants.

Brat seemed to get elected without having any of those on his campaign. This might be why he didn't speak in platitudes and half-truths.

jimmyk on iPhone

Statement from unnamed source means that Tapper went fishing.

Miss Marple

Unfortunately, I need to be gone for a few hours. I would rather be discussing this, but duty calls.

Back later.

Danube on iPad

Tryin' again: a Cantor down a dark defile.

centralcal

I cannot stand to even listen to King anymore.

Captain Hate

Exactly, Miss Marple; look at all the money that was raised for Cantor that went right down the crapper. I'm sure those consultants came up with plenty of "metrics" that told Cantor he had it made in the shade. The one person I'll give credit to on this is Rove for keeping his yap shut, at least from what I've seen or heard.

Porchlight

Cap'n, I'm sure Rove would have committed plenty of his trademark sabotage if he'd had the ghost of a clue of how this was going to to for Cantor. But he was looking at the same carpy polling that Cantor was.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Tapper: "so it looks like to me 1 or 2 of this list are neophytes, not ready for prime tiome to go up against the hostile Media;"

GOP Source: "I suppose so."

Tapper Tweets-- "GOP source says...."

I am as dubious about professional politicians as anyone, but please, there is no question about the evil media and their dirty tricks.

lyle

I think Gigot is the WSJ editor of the Op-Ed pages these days. And it need be a reminder: while those pages are mostly, putatively conservative, the rest of the reportage is reliably progtard.

Porchlight

Who said it?

“Well, first of all, I don’t think you can assume that the liberals are smarter than the conservative professors,” _________ shot back. “I think that’s crazy talk, and it’s exactly the kind of attitude conservatives can’t stand.”

“This looking down our noses at tea party people has got to stop,” ________ added. “They have a message, they’re as American as any liberal is, and they’re really angry of the failure of the system.”

“We can’t control the deficit, we can’t control the debt, we can’t control the border,” the ________ host railed. “What is government good at?”

hit and run

So, perusing Epstein's corner of the WSJ (he's the lead of the Washington Wire), we get this from Hillary reacting to Brat's win...

[Hillary] said David Brat,who defeated Mr. Cantor, “basically ran against immigrants,” which she said tapped into the notion that shutting out immigrants would open up more jobs for citizens.

“The answer is not to throw out of work and deport the 11 million immigrants who are contributing already to our economy."

1) She can't even bring herself to use "undocumented" when speaking of 11 million.

2) Even if we grant that there are 11 million illegal immigrants, paging Rick Ballard, the idea that all of them are "contributing already to our economy" is . . . well, look, if she's weaseling her way through by leaving out "undocumented" then I suppose we can grant her that many of those "11 million" are contributing to our economy in the same way that Obama is contributing to America's standing in the world.

narciso

the quote is anonymous, however we can think of a dozen names who make that point on the record, then again there was that anonymous
Taliban commander, last week, things are tough all over.

Threadkiller

My impression of some of Hagel's testimony is he goes back to Berghdal could have been harmed if we attack these clowns andnow the taliban don't have that threat anymore.

My guess is they are planning on raining down a shitload of bombs pre election.

narciso

She sets fire to strawmen with great aplumb and a large lighter,

lyle

Hey, Porch, that's MY JOM turf! ;-)

lyle

She lies so effortlessly but she's no Slick Willy, that's for sure.

GMax

Via Twitchy:

Psst @WendyDavisTexas Your campaign manager isn't the problem..

Porchlight

Sorry lyle, I couldn't resist! It blew my mind when i read it.

cindyk on IPad

Flying into DC tomorrow to see the son's PhD work at the NIH. Wondering if we should arrive in full hazmat suits or just wear tin foil on our heads until we head out on Sunday?! Seriously, our elected class is so very disconnected from reality and how very fed up the electorate really is.

James D.

My guess is they are planning on raining down a shitload of bombs pre election.

I believe that.

But what would be the point? Which voters does Zero et al think will be impressed by that?

The Republicans who (rightfully) don't trust anything he does?

The hard-left progs who are pretty much on the side of the Taliban anyway?

The LIVs who don't care about foreign policy, can't find Afghanistan on a map and have been told for going on six years now that we have no national interests there, and, besides, the was is over anyway?

Sounds like a loser all the way around to me.

sbw

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 8m

GOP source: "we're going to end up with 1, maybe 2 people in (House) leadership who don't qualify as grown-up and/or ready for primetime"

If I were fluent in twitter:
@jaketapper, that isn't news. It isn't even opinion. It's propaganda.

fdcol63

If I had any confidence in Obama's true alliance and real strategy, I could almost hope that their plan was that their release of the Taliban 5 would prompt communication between them in Qatar with the Taliban and AQ leadership in Afghanistan and Pakistan, which would allow them to target these rag-headed mofos now that Bergdahl isn't in their possession, thereby allowing the US to wipe out these guys before pulling out of Afghanistan.

But .... I have no such confidence in just whose side Obama is on and I really doubt he's that smart in terms of military strategy.

jimmyk

sbw, based on I think AliceH's experience, he would then block you. How's that for open-mindedness?

DrJ

cindyk,

the son's PhD work at the NIH.

Congrats!

Your son probably knows this, but be cautioned that you have to go through a TSA-like screening to get into NIH. If he is in one of the off-campus buildings and you get to NIH by Metro and take one of the NIH buses to get there, you will have to go through the same routine to get back onto campus.

So go with as little "stuff" as you can. Of course, I always have a briefcase and pockets full of things, including computers and whatnot. Ugh.

NSF is a lot easier to get in and out of, FWIW.

Threadkiller

But what would be the point? Which voters does Zero et al think will be impressed by that?

The GOP leadership will be painted as the ones making the decision, not Odummy.

The GOP will not bring clarity to the issue in an effort to reassure the conservatives that they are a better choice in November and the conservatives will not show up at the ballot box.

narciso

what is sane about 17 trillion in debt, a health care system that's being dismantled as we speak, AQ on the march from Waziristan to Aleppo to Borno, after a baker's dozen years of fighting

Volodya went after one Chechen exile leader, on the streets of Doha, either immediately before or after Beslan

fdcol63

Beslan.

All these school shootings show just how vulnerable American schools are to a Beslan-style nightmare.

Old Lurker test

Sorry, Jake.

I used to know what a grownup was, and I used to know what being ready for prime-time meant.

Please list from the 535 in Congress and those in the Executive Branch who meet the former meaning of those words? Throw in some Ven Diagram Circles from Justice too while you are at it.

Anyone?

Bueller?

cindyk on IPad

DrJ: Groan....but thanks for the TSA heads-up! The son loves his work there and will be headed to Cambridge England in Sept to actually receive his PhD. So want this country to pivot back to the land of opportunity and optimism. Our brightest and best deserve to have the possibility of "Morning in America" all over again.

lyle

I'd take bets Jake was no idea what a Venn diagram is, OL.

NK(withnewsoftware)

AllahPundit calculates Obummer's Amnesty Timeline. I won't hazard a guess if he's right about August. But I would say that if Obummer doesn't do Amnesty Order by August, it means that the polling for Amnesty is hideous: http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/11/more-cantor-fallout-what-happens-to-obamas-executive-order-on-deportations-now/

daddy
lyle

Okay, Porch, I'll take a stab.

It was Chris Maddow-Shultz.

Some Guy

I'm shocked at what some pundits think the Cantor defeat means or doesn't mean, and therefore I wouldn't be shocked if Speaker Orange misreads it as well.

I don't believe Top Men vs the Tea Party explains it. I don't believe immigration explains it.

I believe it was lash out at the entire status quo. Emperor no clothes, feckless leaders in congress from both parties, out of control federal agencies... you name it.

Voters standing athwart history, yelling Stop!

NK(withnewsoftware)

What a nightmare that Mass DCF is. It's Kafka or Dickens in 21st Century America.

hit and run

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Old Lurker test

Thanks for adding the missing "n" Lyle. I knew it looked funny but heck, this is JOM!

NK(withnewsoftware)

Attack against the DC Status Quo, definitely. The New Corrupt Va Governor, the lawless child invasion camps and Taliban release were fuel to the hatred of DC.

Some Guy

Some idiot from the Nation (I repeat myself) stated that the Cantor lose was a great opportunity for democrats smart enough go "more anti-corporate, more anti-Wall Street"

What kind of bubble does it require to be so completely out of touch with real people? That nonsense stopped polling well in 3 years ago.

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