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JeanD

Beasts, thank you for that! I will write down all suggestions and pass them on to the other equally clueless, but hopeful, attendees.

And, NK, thank you for your 3:55 post. Things like that help offset my cynicism and misery, at least for a bit.

Old Lurker

Daddy even a sixth grader can sort through that sentence and see that he is not at all denying that US Soldiers died in those efforts. At least Obama and the others just outright lie. It is sad to watch a stupid man try to be clever in constructing his words.

Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz

The problem with WeeDavey is his quality control officer is out to lunch. He used to be regularly self deprecating and more cognizant of his fairly monumental failings but his work product has slipped perilously close to regulation, run of the mill trolleries.
Which leads to ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

GMax

JeanD

I see Hit gave you the hook up on Paradis which is outstanding. Beast is correct on Caliza in next door Alys Beach. Georges is also in Alys Beach and very good.

I would add for a short drive further, you can go to Seagrove Beach and Café 30A. Probably my favorite restaurant.

Still on 30A but west of Grayton Beach is a fantastic place known as Stinkys Fish Camp. Some nights there is live music.

Beast gave you the hook up as well on the Red Bar which has live music as well. Bring a lot of cash, absolutely no credit cards taken. Always a wait, and the parking situation is beyond challenging, but if you can get over that you will enjoy.

Finally over in Destin you can hit the Marina Café. The redfish dish is the best. I don't even look at the menu anymore, but they do have some great steaks and usually have a Grouper dish that is very good.

How long you got in town? I can keep this up for awhile.


Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz

I've known a lot of stupid people in my life and they all seemed to disprove the theory that stupidity leads to one being right half the time or even very often at all.
They are almost invariably wrong and usually have no clue why or even that they are.

JeanD

Hit, thanks. (I thought I might ask rse, Gmax and Stephanie, too, but could only remember a recent mention by Beasts.)

If we decide to extend our trip, I might be asking for advice about Panama City, too.

Given your skills, you will know whether I need this advice before I know it myself. If you find out, let me know!

Old Lurker

Yes Iggy, as soon as I wrote that I thought of my sister who is never right. About anything.

JeanD

GMax,

Thanks to you, too. We won't have much "free" time, but wanted some ideas for what to do with it.

You all came through like champs, and I thank you so much. Sorry to have derailed the thread, but it was my turn, and that is how I roll...

jimmyk on iPhone

"Nixon on policy would be today's Jon Huntsman."

No. Look at the size of government in '72 versus today. Nixon was only moderate relative to that. The whole country has gone crazy left. Tea Partiers would dance for joy if we could revert to the government we had in '72. (Hence my airplane simile on the last page that was evidently too obscure.)

Beasts of England

Thanks, hit. I left off Paradis, Cafe Thirty-A, George's, Louis Louis, Fish out of Water. Too many great places to name. Very few, if any, are marginal in any way...

daddy

I must say, it makes one ponder what would happen if the survivors of Benzhazi had come forward - would there have been a different outcome? Would their first hand accounts expose the lies that we were initially told?

It's interesting in that the boys doing the talking on Bergdahl are the boys in the lowest ranks and rates, the guys with the least to lose career wise from talking. What are we going to do if they talk. Bust these Corporals back to buck Private? Beg deal.

That is not to take a single thing away from them at all for stepping up and talking so honestly. Obviously their emotions and thoughts and feelings on Bergdahl are 100% genuine and they recognize that it is their duty to their country and to their fallen comrades to get the truth out. Right on.

But in Benghazi by contrast I get the impression it is much more a scenario made up of mid to high level Military folks, mid to high level Secret Agents, and mid to high level Govt folks, all of whom are much more prisoners of the career system where they learn damn quick what they are supposed to say and not say and how to stay muzzled.

Worth contrasting that in both instances we have obvious Offical efforts having been instituted to keep mouths shut, but in the Bergdahl case the flood gates have opened and the horses are out of the barn, whereas in Benghazi we are still completely stonewalled and don't even know the names of any individuals that were in theater that night with the exception of the 4 dead.

The lesson I take away from the example of the Bergdahl'ers speaking out, is that there must be Benghazian's capable of speaking out, but they haven't yet found the courage of the grunts in Bergdahl's Unit.

GMax

Don't you think most of the servicemen, are former servicemen? As in enlisted and then got out when it was up. They don't qualify for a pension and there is not much the Army can do to them. Zero might try to sic the IRS on them, but my guess is the IRS knows they are being watched like hawks and that a Republican Senate would make the oversight even more comprehensive so they are not going to stick their neck out.

The CIA guys have to worry about being exposed and that their pension would be in jeopardy. That makes a huge deterrent.

Old Lurker

Jimmy is so right. One need only look at the share of GDP that is consumed by US governments at all levels; at the share of those expenditures that are simply transfers of wealth; and at the skewed collection of income taxes from a smaller and smaller share of the population.

Or look at the results. $.35 gas is now almost $5.00. A $3,000 Mustang is $25,000. A $100,000 house is a million. 34% of 18-30 year olds live with their parents and have college debt that will take their lifetimes to repay. How a young family can survive on one income is beyond me. And that of course means our kids are raised by schools run by the bottom of the SAT Bell Curve of college applicants. And my church pew get emptier and emptier and grayer and grayer.

Repeat.

lyle

Your airplane simile wasn't lost on me, jimmyk. It brought a wry smile to my face.

Jane

Jimmy Van Bramer is an utter moron. He's what's wrong with this country.

daddy

OT - does anyone else have someone in their life that seems unable to answer direct questions?

Mark Begich. He is the best I have ever seen at that craft.

lyle

You're Episcopal, right, OL? ;-)

Momto2

I fear you are correct, daddy. I think they fear for their future and have already invested years and years and could not recover economically from such a hit. But isn't it sad that not ONE is willing to put our country first? NOT ONE from Benghazi is brave enough to even seek a way to speak "off the record" or under cloak of anonymity....

I feel sorry for them - they must be miserable to carry knowledge and yet remain silent....

jimmyk on iPhone

"One need only look at the share of GDP that is consumed by US governments at all levels..."

The number of pages in the Federal Register, the number of cabinet departments, and so on.

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself
daddy

Chuck Todd reports that, in response to allegations of possible desertion by Bowe Bergdahl, White House sources are accusing the soldiers that served with him of 'swift boating.'

Would love to have the names of those "White House sources", but I doubt we ever will, and I also doubt there any such sources. Probably another talking point flung at the wall in desperate hopes that it'll stick and the MSM will carry it forward.

daddy

Steve Hayes is saying (of the 2 Secret Video excuse) that the video the White House is saying that shows Bergdahl supposedly in awful health thus mandating immediate efforts to get his release, was actually a video from 6 months ago, and that they were comparing that 6 month old video to video of Bergdahl from at least 2 years prior.

So it is even more of a Bulls@#t excuse than I initially thought.

BTW, did anyone looking at that video of the release think he looked like he was a deaths door? Or did you share my opinion that he looks from his carriage and pace, fairly healthy?

daddy

Juan Williams is moving the goalposts and saying that the Military head guy wanted to effect this release under the assumption that "this was our last, best chance," not so much his terrible poor health.

Steve Hayes continues to blow the meme of the ill-health excuse out of the water.

jimmyk

Daddy, it wouldn't surprise me if "White House sources" are saying that anonymously, given what State Dept dudettespokesperson Marie Harf was willing to say in public. I linked the video earlier, but this is a WFB story on it:

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/state-dept-the-facts-of-bergdahls-disappearance-have-no-bearing-on-bringing-him-home/

Miss Marple

He looked healthy to me, except maybe pale, but that could have been fear of retribution from the Special Forces.

He also could have been pale from being indoors so much to keep him out of sight.

Stephen Hayes isn't buying the poor health excuse at all, detailing about the videos on The Five.

daddy

Ha! Eric Bolling is now showing how on the same day Susan Rice was saying he was in terrible health requiring his release, and later the same day saying he was in good health.

Again Steve Hayes hammers the point that the video they used to supposedly make the bad health diagnosis was at least 6 months ago.

If you guys have a chance today I would recommend watching the first 15 minutes of the replay of The Five.

daddy

BTW, The Five today is "Beckel-free!"

Miss Marple

Apparently this is one issue Beckel will not defend Obama on. He has been very firm about fighting the Jihadists and is often pointing out that no Muslims come forward to denounce the Jihadists.

Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz

--No. Look at the size of government in '72 versus today. Nixon was only moderate relative to that.--

I would venture to guess that a guy who maneuvered himself to the mushy, left-wing accommodating middle in '72 would do the same in whatever era he lived and that the Nixon/Huntsman comparison is not inapt.

daddy

My guess is that both Sean Penn and Woody Harrelson are pissed at themselves for being too old to play Bergdahl in the movie.

Stephanie tortoise not the hare

I wouldn't be of much help on the Redneck Riviera. Haven't been to the Riviera since 96 when the Olympics were in town.

I tend to Biloxi, Mobile, Tampa, Amelia Island, the Keys, Orlando or St Augustine now.

Extraneus

JFK couldn't be elected today, and would have been purged from the Democrat party for his views on taxation, never mind his views on foreign affairs.

Extraneus

Btw, is there video of any other POWs being frisked by U.S. forces upon their release? Do we have video of McCain's release?

centralcal

In all fairness, Extraneus, I don't think suicide bombs were an issue during McCain's captivity.

Momto2

Again Steve Hayes hammers the point that the video they used to supposedly make the bad health diagnosis was at least 6 months ago.

They don't have a good track record with using videos to prove their point /s.

jimmyk

a guy who maneuvered himself to the mushy, left-wing accommodating middle in '72 would do the same in whatever era he lived

That may be so, but to say that Rs have moved farther to the right when all they are doing is trying to push back a bit harder because the government has become so big and intrusive strikes me as very inapt.

Beasts of England

I'm sure the fine gazillionaires of Alys and Rosemary Beaches appreciate being included in the Redneck Riviera, Steph! Gulf Shores, Panama City? Sure. But I think that 30A considers itself more of a Côte-d'Or. ;)

Momto2

Bergdahl's hometown cancels celebration of release

Someone made a comment asking why can't the town just stand up and say - "Until questions are answered about his disappearance, we will not celebrate nor use tax payer money to fund such a celebration.... instead they use the excuse of "crowd control."

We've become so P.C. - even the obvious truth cannot be spoken without fear of reprisal..... so sad!

Extraneus

Good point, cc. Still, it didn't suggest that he was a trusted comrade being rescued from captivity. And now we know that he wasn't.

Captain Hate

Steve Hayes continues to blow the meme of the ill-health excuse out of the water.

Where is the opposition party to ridicule Susan Rice as a flat out liar every time she goes on the gab shows? Boehner and his clean toga friends always let these hanging curve balls just pass right by rather than slamming them into the upper deck. We need some damn leadership from these clowns. Hayes and company do a good traditional journalism job but he can't carry water for an entire party of eunuchs,

Sue

Daddy,

I thought Bergdahl was crying in the video where he is wiping his eyes.

Stephanie tortoise not the hare

Lol beasts. I've always considered it to be from Appalachicola to Pensacola. Money doesn't mean you can't be a redneck - Phil Robertson comes to mind or Terry Bradshaw, Ted Nugent etc.

Miss Marple

Sue, I wondered if he didn't want to go home.

Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz

-That may be so, but to say that Rs have moved farther to the right...-

I must have missed that one. It's even less accurate. The Rs regularly vote for a government bigger than LBJ ever dreamed of.

Beasts of England

Finally skimmed the MoDo article and learned that she consumed a candy bar meant to be split sixteen ways. SIXTEEN WAYS! Wow, just wow! Too bad she didn't freak and jump out the window like that college boy did a few months back. Dang she's insufferable.

daddy

Juan Williams (in the Bob Beckel seat) is on the Harry Reid bandwagon as supporting the President's terror-swap, and Juan apparently thinks Harry Reid is 100% correct.

Probably the weakest segment I can recall seeing on The Five--even Jaun could hardly go thru the motions with any enthusiasm. I'm surprised he didn't simply invite Harf or Susan Rice on the Show to give the official version and save himself the embarrassment.

Some Guy

Wow, the SF 49ers are nuts. Just signed a deal with Colin Kaepernick with $60 mil guaranteed.

He's an athletic specimen, but a mediocre quarterback who can't make a read beyond the 1st option.

Paying Tom Brady money for Jeff George will hand cuff the team for a decade.

Stephanie tortoise not the hare

BTW last time we were in PCB I was shocked at how yucky it seemed. There was some joint that was named something like "Bubbas Rib Shack and Tattoo Parlor" - not the PCB I remembered from my annual visits from about 70-79 BEFORE all the highrises replaced the little motels that were there and they had supposedly classed up the place.

Threadkiller

Yes, this is the work of an incompetent:

The National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) revealed to Breitbart Texas that the San Diego Sector of the U.S. Border Patrol is making plans to receive, process, and then release 500 illegal aliens into the U.S. per week who were shipped in from Texas, specifically from the Rio Grande Valley Border Patrol Sector

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/04/BREAKING-Border-Patrol-Sector-To-Release-500-Illegal-Aliens-Per-Week-Into-US

No malice here, just some accidental bungling, move along...

Miss Marple

Stephanie, Tattoo parlors seem to be the biggest growth industry on my side of town. There are 5 here in the southside suburbs of Indy, which is just bizarre to me.

I inherited my father's extreme distaste for tattoos, which is only eclipsed by my disdain for body and facial piercings (I do not even have pierced ears).

Captain Hate

It's even less accurate. The Rs regularly vote for a government bigger than LBJ ever dreamed of.

Exactly. GWB blew the doors off the concept of government restraint when it comes to spending and anybody who claims otherwise is a damn liar. The only Republican who curbed the rate of growth (but not the growth itself) was Reagan and the two Bushes did everything in their power to make that a vague memory. The Tea Party discontent with spending began under GWB. If they want to say the number of people in the party who are fed up with that situation has increased, I guess that would be correct but there's scant evidence of the party doing anything even close to producing the necessary level of restraint.

Rick B

"slamming them into the upper deck"

'Flushing it down the toilet' would be more apt. How long would it take progs to make Boehner the story rather than BOzo and the lying Dems? Why trigger a peck and drool fest before the public has this tied around BOzo's neck like the ACA albatross or the IRS or Benghazi or the VA?

BOzo and his Bobbleheads are doing just fine without assistance from the GOP. There is no urgency that I'm aware of regarding this matter and I'm crossing my fingers that our racist AG and his utterly corrupt DoJ are going to use one of their pet monkeys in robes to try and enforce those NDAs.

Some Guy

No malice here, just some accidental bungling, move along...

Where did you come up with odd notion that stupidity and malice are mutually exclusive?

centralcal

Sue, someone on a news show speculated that Bergdahl's rapid blinking was because a blindfold had been removed and his eyes were trying to adjust to sunlight.

But, who really knows?

daddy

From Bret Baire's Show, here is a FOX News Doctor 2 minutes again (verbatim)

Dr Marc Seigel: Looking at the latest video of Beay Bergdahl I can say with medical certainty, as a practicing physician, that he appears to be in excellent health right now, without sigs that he's malnourished.

My diagnosis perzacktly:)

Captain Hate

I inherited my father's extreme distaste for tattoos, which is only eclipsed by my disdain for body and facial piercings (I do not even have pierced ears).

Father Hate pointed out to me, at an early age, what tattoos looked like when otherwise good looking people started aging. Not a pretty picture. No further example necessary.

I don't want to go overboard on slamming people who have them because some of our finest anti-Bergdahls fighting for all of us are packing lots of ink; but it's not for me.

daddy

Where is the opposition party to ridicule Susan Rice as a flat out liar every time she goes on the gab shows?

Captain,

Until we replace Reince with Dennis Miller, we are going to continue to let opportunities like these slip thru our fingers.

Happy, happy, joy, joy Ignatz

So does the Border Patrol work product now count toward the "imports" segment of GDP now?
In what way does this policy differ from other human traffickers? They charge us the taxpayer for it rather than those they import?

Wouldn't RICO statutes apply to the entire Federal enterprise at this point?

Extraneus

What would be the point of blindfolding him?

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

Has Obama given himself enough credit for this wonderful traitor/terrorist swap?
I hope he isn't being too humble.

Threadkiller

I do not have that idea, Some Guy.

But I do get the impression that you believe that Obama is not guilty by reason of inanity.

Beasts of England

I inherited my father's extreme distaste for tattoos, which is only eclipsed by my disdain for body and facial piercings (I do not even have pierced ears).

Note to self: do not bring any of my girlfriends around Miss Marple. ;)

daddy

I thought Bergdahl was crying in the video where he is wiping his eyes.

Sue, That's possible but I don't think that's all of it. There is one shot where after he wipes his left eye with his left hand, then he looks at his handler and keeps that left eye shut for a few seconds while he keeps the right eye open. That seems to me to be evidence of something irritating his eye rather than standard tears from emotion.

Some Guy

What would be the point of blindfolding him?

So he wouldn't see that he was being returned to the Americans. They didn't want to have to endure the weeping and begging for mercy.

JoJo

I'm wondering if there will be a grassroots military reaction to the Bergdahl exchange that will rise to the same level as the swiftie movement did in reaction to Kerry running for president.

daddy

I wiss to heck we could take those incoming illegals and dump them all outside the Capitol and the White House. Why punish the rest of American for the sins of DC?

daddy

I inherited my father's extreme distaste for tattoos, which is only eclipsed by my disdain for body and facial piercings (I do not even have pierced ears).

Miss Marple,

Is this relation with you and Mr Marple solid? Have I still got a chance?

:)

JoJo

daddy, I think that statement by Hegel is going to make a lot of people, especially military people, really mad.

Miss Marple

Captain Hate,

I know they are popular with lots of soldiers and a whole lot of the younger generation, but I cannot get over hearing my father say "Tattoos" the way Seinfeld used to say "Newman!"

The piercing thing is because I do not like holes in my body and whenever I see lots of piercings I get creeped out. Can't help it.

Sue

We went to PCB every summer from 94 to 00. My kids loved it. I never thought of it as anything other than a party town for young people. They would have hated Destin.

Captain Hate

daddy, Priebus was on FNS and, with all these new controversies, I forget what he was addressing but he sounded to me like he struck a good balance on how he addressed it. For all the times I've criticized him, he was pretty good.

I suppose I can agree with Rick B to some extent but at some point a political party has to be identified as being for something rather than just against the donks.

Eric in Boise2

Bergdahl's rapid blinking was because a blindfold had been removed and his eyes were trying to adjust to sunlight.

Are we sure it wasn't Morse code for J-I-H-A-D ?

centralcal

Bret Baier has the strangest zig zag part in his hair. I have noticed it before. Is he trying to hide a thinning spot?

daddy

What that Hegal admission tells us (if it can be believed) is that Secretary Hegal pays even less attention to the News than President Obama does.

Geee-zus. Can it get any more frightening?

Why yes it can:

Captain Hate

Hagel certainly seems dumb enough to prosecute people for violating an NDA.

Barbara

I just looked at the links daddy provided last night showing Bergdahl's transfer to the Americans. Just a few observations.

1) Bergdahl looked pretty healthy to me. Full face; clear, direct eyes. Didn't look drugged. Didn't look like he'd lost a great amount of weight compared to the photo taken of him after his training.

2) His head looked pale, but also just shaved. Whereas his neck area was quite tanned. The tan line conforms to the clothes he was wearing. So, it doesn't appear that he was kept in a cell or room during his stay with the Haqqani.

3) What I thought was interesting was the brief pat down they gave our returning soldier before they let him climb into the helicopter. Not exactly a "welcome home"; more like checking to see if he was wired.

4) Our guys didn't seem to want to stick around and shake hands with the local tribe folks, and didn't shake hands or give much of a reception to Bergdahl either. Just get the guy and get out. I don't blame them.

Anonamom

Instalaunch of this thread.

centralcal

Yes, Anonamom, and Insty put it on Twitter too.

centralcal

Guy Benson ‏@guypbenson 1m

.@JamesRosenFNC tells @HughHewitt that military sources say *further* allegations against Bergdahl are coming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWYYfCmZYdY

Miss Marple

"Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides blasted the New York Times for what they said was unfair coverage of the former first lady during a recent secret meeting with the paper’s Washington bureau, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.

Sources said the meeting included Clinton advisers Philippe Reines and Huma Abedin, as well as Times Washington bureau chief Carolyn Ryan and national political reporter Amy Chozick, who has been on the Clinton beat for the paper."

1. Reines is the guy who accused CNN of passing Ambassador Stephens' diary around for gossip purposes. (And what would that gossip have been, Miss Marple asks.)
2. With all of this Muslim stuff and talk of collaborators floating around, it is beyond nuts that she sent Abedin out as the face of her campaign.

Jane

Daddy,

I spent the first i/2 hour of the Five debating with Glenn Greenwald about why I shouldn't feel terrible for the GITMO detainees because they haven't had a trial.

I can't tell you how many people sympathized with that.

Buford Gooch

I've read this comment thread with interest. The quibble over stupid or evil seems to have missed the obvious. Some Guy was close. Think of 12-13 year-old boys you know or have known (or have been). That is what makes up this administration.

narciso, the filmmaker gets jail, the murder's row go home

Hagel, knows nothing, he ought to wear the Sgt. Schultz helmet, which was why it was imperative to put him in the Pentagon, and Ted Cruz was crazy to say otherwise.

His Saudi sponsors, are probably still ashamed he couldn't swing the intervention on behalf of the jihadists

Buford Gooch

As to why Bergdahl was lightly patted down, it would not be above the Jihadis (which he may have been one of) to have strapped a bomb to him, with or without his consent.

daddy

Good job, Jane.

Would love to hear more.

On a different topic, I saw a FOX TV report that Thad Cochran did not make an appearance today to thank his supporters. Instead he sent a spokesperson out to do that, whereas McDaniel was out in fine celebratory fashion. I hope we are seeing that Cochran's heart is not in it, since as I understand it he previously said he wanted to run again, and that he'll peacefully bow out and move along.

Anyone down in Mississippi territory have any insight on that?

centralcal

Here is the Twitchy recap of Jane and Greenwald.

Way to go Jane!

narciso, the filmmaker gets jail, the murder's row go home

Well the general rule is they are unlawful enemy combatants who don't abide by Geneva convention stipulations, however Khairwa, Nabi and at least one other, were high government officials of the Taliban regime,

daddy

Gretta says that in just a minute we will hear Allen West call Susan Rice a "delusional liar."

narciso, the filmmaker gets jail, the murder's row go home

So they might merit a military tribunal, but that system has been so subverted, re the recent ones for KSM, that it has become useless

daddy

correction on my comment on Cochran:

since as I understand it he previously said he did not want to run again,

Miss Marple

narciso, No one recognized the Taliban government except Pakistan and maybe a couple of other countries.

The United States did not recognize them as a government.

Captain Hate

Good job, Jane; getting a rise out of that pansy douche means you hit his emotional G spot.

Threadkiller

When trillion dollar stimulus plans sack the Treasury and hand the dough over to the political allies of the administration doing the sacking my first thought is the tweens I once knew.

Any thing else, like evil, does not make sense.

Jane

Oh it went on for a lot longer. The killer was when they were demanding why they aren't entitled to due process and I said. "they aren't Americans." Shut them right up.

What shocked me is how many people were so pro terrorists.

NK(withnewsoftware)

MissM@6:49-- Hildabeast must know that Pinch Sultzberger will support the Prog challenging her from the Left in the Dem primaries, so she's prepping the '16 Prog battlefield.

GMax

Greenwalt lives in Brazil with his boyfriend, FYI

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