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July 30, 2014

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Threadkiller

Ellison, KeithTO AVOID HITTING CIVILIANS. IF THERE ARE CASES WHERE -- WHEN I THINK HUMAN SHIELD I THINK OF A COMBATANT PUTTING A CIVILIAN IN FRONT OF THEM...

http://www.c-span.org/video/?320780-4/washington-journal-rep-keith-ellison-dmn

About 3:30 into the show.

NK(withnewsoftware)

DebinNC-- that Obummer photo has a vague torchlight march in Nurenburg feel to it.

narciso

the zampolits at 538, are just furthering the Bialystok scare, I was out of town, and unfortunately subject to CNN, which is a Geneva and Vienna convention violation i'm sure, as they were in full Hamaspalooza mode

clarice

henry, gus, in the ID case, Chief J Shirley Abrahamson has surely jumped the shark.

DebinNC

NK, it surely does.

henry

Clarice, what did Shirley say now? (My computer thinks it is at the IRS or something, can't view documents).

maryrose

henry:
Your news from Wisconsin has made my day!
Glad the House has their own scaled down bill and one by Marsha Blackburn to shot down Obama.
My last thought yesterday was the Lawsuit trumped Obama's glee over the $%. It will be revised and if one looks today,the stock market hates it.

maryrose

should be faux 4%

clarice

The dissenting Chief Justice said:
"Today the court follows not James Madison -- for whom Wisconsin's capital city is named -- but rather Jim Crow -- the name typically used to refer to repressive laws used to restrict rights, including the right to vote, of African-Americans."

Threadkiller

Fox News' Sean Hannity: Odd It Took Obama So Long To Produce Birth Certificate; Muslim School? 

http://youtu.be/nIPMYBhnnAk

Hannity is launching asymmetrical warfare against the GOP's hopes of gaining control of the Senate.

He should shut up.

Some Guy

"Today the court follows not James Madison -- for whom Wisconsin's capital city is named -- but rather Jim Crow -- the name typically used to refer to repressive laws Democrats used to restrict rights, including the right to vote, of African-Americans."


There. Fixed it for you clarice.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Clarice-- that woman should be dragged out into the street and horsewhipped.

Threadkiller

BREAKING: Federal Judge Carter Orders Obama To Court To Prove Eligibility

http://americannews.com/breaking-federal-judge-carter-orders-obama-to-court-to-prove-eligibility/

Judges...

(Probably a spoof site)

Extraneus

And treating the one Constitutional remedy that's actually available as something radioactive and never to be discussed, let alone seriously contemplated, has a cost also.

Agreed. We're basically saying that a Democrat cannot be impeached. It's kind of like the government shutdown gambit: The government can never be shut down under a Democrat, even if the Democrat is the person shutting down the government.

I find the impeachment discussion long on opinion and a little short on facts. Wouldn't it be smarter to simply list the supposedly impeachable offenses first? Let the list speak for itself.

jimmyk

One of the many good comments on that Kohn piece about Detroit:

Yes, those rascally Republicans caused Democrats to be consistently elected to office in Detroit who then implemented policies that completely destroyed the educational system, the police force, and every single city resource.
Extraneus

The investment markets are really loving that

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Stephanie

I love Drudge right now...

Headline: Russia Eyes Banning U.S. Chicken

Pic is of Obama

LOL

Rick B

Extraneous,

The investment markets are obviously reacting to extraordinarily

1) hot

or

2) cold

weather. The GDP report generated by the Winston Smith's of the BEA has nothing to do with the markets. Or the economy, for that matter.

narciso

she jumped right into the sharknado, without Ian Ziering's chainsaw.

the 9/11 commission report, is one of those documents a little like those big coffee table
books, that everyone has, but no one has read.

'failure of imagination' is a tag, that could apply to being caught off guard in the Cuban missile crisis the Gulf of Tonkin, any number of situations I'm reminded of the former, because Stephen Carter, has another trip down memory lane
on the subject that he previewed on Morning Joke, he's not a foolish man, although he may be wrong on occasion,so I took in a snippet, it's premised on a chess game,
and recontextualizing the Mimi Alford affair
as a cover for the backchannel

Danube on iPad

"A similar suit (Barnett v. Obama) recently came before U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter. Contrary to what is claimed in the example block above, Judge Carter did not 'refuse to hear Obama's request for dismissal' of the suit, nor did he order 'Obama to release his birth certificate in a timely manner.' The referenced case was dismissed by Judge Carter, who concluded his 29 October 2009 order granting the defendants' Motion to Dismiss with the following statement:


"'Plaintiffs have encouraged the Court to ignore mandates of the Constitution; to disregard the limits on its power put in place by the Constitution; and to effectively overthrow a sitting president who was popularly elected by 'We the People'— over sixty-nine million of the people. Plaintiffs have attacked the judiciary, including every prior court that has dismissed their claim, as unpatriotic and even treasonous for refusing to grant their requests and for adhering to the terms of the Constitution which set forth its jurisdiction. Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this Court is not unpatriotic. Quite the contrary, this Court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism.'"

Not surprisingly, this was an Orly Taitz fandango.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/carter.asp#FU7ZCmRgw6pBEiBZ.99

Extraneus

Long article on impeachment:

Obama Peddles Impeachment Conspiracy Theories To Raise Money

narciso

the Daily Beast, almost inspite of Tina Brown,
has some promise, Rogin and Lake and Dettmer,
are good on the foreign policy/intelligence
front as are some of the Russian and other stringers. then you have tomasky and cohn,
and all the other idiots, flacking their pet causes, like the false flag attack on McDaniel

Danube on iPad

"We're basically saying that a Democrat cannot be impeached."

Not at all. We are saying is that 67 out of 100 Senators will not vote to remove a Democrat president from office when 54 of them are Democrats.

narciso

Most of the good information in that report, came from interrogation, however I concurwith EJ Epstein, since I read 'Agency of Fear' and his review of the Nosenko affair that some detainees are not always entirely forthcoming, about certain matter,

But is interesting the two practical recommendations they made, a verifiable borderidentity check, are always dismissed and/ordemagogued, and we know what Risen did with SWIFT, re terrorism finance tracking,

James D.

Not at all. We are saying is that 67 out of 100 Senators will not vote to remove a Democrat president from office when 54 of them are Democrats.

100% true.

But a more aggressive GOP could make a nice little campaign issue out of that.

Decide which of Zero's many violations of law and oath sounds like the worst or most unforgiveable act, and put the question to vulnerable Dem candidates - is thus-and-such action of Obama's wrong? Is it a violation of the law?

Make them defend the lies and the executive orders and the rewriting of laws on the fly.

Make them explain why these things AREN'T impeachable offenses.

Danube on iPad

"Make them explain why these things AREN'T impeachable offenses."

They don't have to, any more than they had to with Clinton. All they have to do is vote to acquit or, as with Arlen Specter, "not proven."

Some Guy

"We're basically saying that a Democrat cannot be impeached."

And the sun rises in the east. Film at 11.

Look, impeachment is by design a political act, and politics have to be calculated into it. There are only two methods to successfully impeach a sitting president:

1) Opposition party takes at least 67 seats in the Senate.
2) Members of the president's party turn on him in sufficient numbers to join with opposition.

Right now, I don't think anyone can name 12 dem. or ind. who would turn on the president. Nor do I think there are enough Democrats who would take their oath of office more seriously than their party loyalty no matter how serious the charges.

That's just the way it is, and pretending otherwise is only a waste of time.

Threadkiller

Wouldn't it be smarter to simply list the supposedly impeachable offenses first? Let the list speak for itself.

Here is a 14 page example:

http://northamericanlawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Articles-of-Impeachment-of-Barack-Hussein-Obama-3.2-41.pdf

The 54 scary Dems in the Senate can't stop the House Judiciary, AFAIK, but I'm not to savy in yellow-spine politics.

Some Guy

Arlen Spector voted 'Haggis!'

Threadkiller

...too...

narciso

now this makes some sense, with some of his previous actions;

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/31/bibi-wants-hamas-to-stay.html

but we're still stuck with Malone's query to Ness, 'what are you prepared to do'

Danube on iPad

It's too bad you left the GOP, TK. They could use your sage counsel.

What the 54 Dems can do is make it clear to the House Judiciary that working on articles of impeachment would be an empty, useless, counterproductive and monstrously stupid idea.

narciso

And the Dutchess of Anchorage, and Crying George Voinivich, of these are a governing
coalition made, lord love a waterfowl,

but Bob Packwood had to go yesterday, because he a boorish drunk, who couldn't keep his hands to himself, Ensign had to go, because
extreme stupidity, Craig, well 'wide stance'
what else do you need. Delay,vapors and fainting couches,

Threadkiller

Jindal's 100% only requires the counsell of the appeasers.

Threadkiller

...counsel...

narciso

beliefs are more important than place of origin, TK, Jindal operates in the practical world of Louisiana politics, where the legislators, all 'accidentally,' pulled the wrong levers, and voted for the stimulus,

I was a little more dissapointed on how as the wunderkind on healthcare, he was basically awol in the first skirmishes over the unaffordable care act

jimmyk on iPhone

Narc@1:17, that headline is a bit misleading. I might prefer a migraine to a brain tumor, but I wouldn't say I want the migraine. I also question the wisdom of the policy (not that the writer provides any support that it's actually Bibi's). How much worse could any alternative be than Hamas, and why couldn't Israel just wipe that out as well? Especially if there weren't a hostile US administration.

henry

a couple note from the land of Quinn:

CIA accessed Senate Staff computers.

and:

@CronkiteSays: BREAKING: Pres Obama is said to be be so frustrated over Congress's refusal to impeach him said he would sign executive order to impeach himself.

Threadkiller

Speaking of the GOP needing sage advice:


On Thursday, his last day as House Majority Leader, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) did not mention amnesty or work visas during his farewell speech on the House floor. 

Shockingly, Cantor lost a June 10 primary to Dave Brat largely because of his views on amnesty, and he did not urge his colleagues to move forward on giving amnesty to illegal immigrant children or increase the number of high-tech guest-worker visas. Before his defeat, Cantor was reportedly working on the so-called KIDS Act and pushed the STEM Jobs Act that passed the House last year. The STEM bill would have increased the number of various work visas.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/31/Eric-Cantor-Doesn-t-Mention-Amnesty-Guest-Worker-Visas-in-Farewell-Speech

Didn't his constituents care that the scary Dems in the Senate had forced his hand on amnesty?

What is this world coming to?

narciso

You know even Frank Underwood doesn't hold blackmail over people this long,

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2014/07/what-does-joe-scarborough-think-we.html

Bibi has a large coalition, some of whom like Danon don't feel the need to be civil to knaves and mountebanks, 'the Lions of Jerusalem' are the new up and comers, if Hamas falters,

Threadkiller

I dunno, Henry, until a guilty person is identified and their motive is clearly laid out in front of us, I fail to see what the CIA admitted to doing as being wrong or bad for our Republic.

Hopefully the GOP waits this one out.

Threadkiller

beliefs are more important than place of origin, TK

I tend to agree.

Man Tran on iPhone

BREAKING: Pres Obama is said to be be so frustrated over Congress's refusal to impeach him said he would sign executive order to impeach himself.

This is finally getting close to the truth of the matter. Barky is realizing he is facing 30+ yrs of enduring that total fustercluck of a presidency and his terminal case of NPD demands that he become a victim. Once he is formally victimized by impeachment, all the burden of failure is gone.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Henry@1:42-- heh-- the Cronkitesays tweet sums up the impeachment discussion. There is no discussion, it's Obummer shouting 'impeach me', and a few nitwits listening to him. When he issues an EO impeaching himself the nitwits will demand a Senate vote for removal.

jimmyk on iPhone

I would go further: By criticizing Israel rather than Hamas for civilian deaths, the MSM, and the left more generally, have blood on their hands, as they are providing Hamas with exactly the reward they seek.

Captain Hate

And treating the one Constitutional remedy that's actually available as something radioactive and never to be discussed, let alone seriously contemplated, has a cost also.

There's another remedy that they won't use despite having campaigned in 2010 on it.

Danube on iPad

"Once he is formally victimized by impeachment, all the burden of failure is gone."

TK is eager to assist him.

narciso

A squirrel occasionally nibbles on a nut on occassion;

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/31/world/middleeast/fighting-political-islam-arab-states-find-themselves-allied-with-israel.html?src=me&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Most%20Emailed&pgtype=article

Threadkiller

Presidents who play the victim need the help of loons because loons are the deciding factor when it comes to gaining GOP majorities.

narciso

It's often illuminating how media say in the UK, refract their view of the cave, the British version of '24, MI-5 was an example.

the latest is this new series on the Sundance Channel,the Honorable Woman, it has byzantine angles on the Arab/Israeli crisis and off course it stars Maggie Gyllenhall, so there's a prospect that she could suffer the fate of her character in the Dark Knight,

Rick B

ISTM that Articles of Impeachment introduced as a resolution of censure would best set the stage for the next Congress. I'd suggest passage of a censure resolution after the Obamas return from their vacation - perhaps the first session after Labor Day. It's true a censure resolution has no teeth but it will set the stage for the budget battles which are the only means available to lock Loose Bear in the Oval Office for the duration of his maladministration.

lyle

Clenis boasts:

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/07/31/bill-clinton-september-10-2001-i-could-have-killed-bin-laden-once-but-called-it-off-because-of-civilian-casualties/

Frau Steingehirn

Guten Tag! Still looking for my brain after 20 hour flight from D'dorf. TM's topic, however, goosed me into action to show my favorite photo of Sen. Conehead (D-South of France).

I'm amazed the pic is still available.

Threadkiller

Welcome back Frau!

henry

How about a musical interlude, (but without any actual music). We need a mental health thingy in the ACA to handle these idiots.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Frau@2:16 = NIEDERMEIER!!!

Shame John Effin' Kerry wasn't shot by his own sailors. Why didn't you arrange that DoT?

NK(withnewsoftware)

Henry@2:21--

are they all teacher union types?

narciso

the reason for the 'Road to 9/11' becoming samizdat becomes clearer now, Scheuer was a desk jockey taking credit for the work of other men, including his successor who ran
the operations to go after Bin Laden

Dorothy Rabinowitz, probably wrote the definitive review, but the salty tears coming from this review, make it interesting;

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/31/sundances_the_honorable_woman_takes_on_the_middle_east_but_manages_to_sap_it_of_drama/

Frau Steingehirn

Thanks, TK. I'm really glad to be home.
P.S. Yes, the beer Kölsch alone was worth the trip...and the genealogical research in Wesel's city archives as heavenly.

Beasts of England

The sound of censure has a nice ring to it. I'd like to hear others' thoughts.

p.s. Hey Frau!

Frau Steingehirn

"was heavenly."


NK(withnewsoftware)

Where is Koelsch? (did I get that spelling correct without the punctuation thingy?)

Danube on iPad

"Presidents who play the victim need the help of loons because loons are the deciding factor when it comes to gaining GOP majorities."

Obama doesn't need it. You would like to give it to him.

Everything after "because" is gibberish.

Jack is Back!

NK,

Kö;lsch is a German beer.

Jack is Back!

KÖLSCH

Finger issues,

Danube on iPad

I don't see how a censure resolution relates to the budget battles.

Jane

Brennan apologizes for breaking into senate computers. Says it was unwise. Even Fox doesn't bother to wonder who ordered it, and what were they looking for. And was it all Senate members or just the republicans. Just another day in DC.

Ignatz

--Everything after "because" is gibberish.--

No it's not. One might disagree with the ironic point it's making but it seems understandable enough.

lyle

Worth a click, trust me:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/07/mid-week-in-pictures-milton-friedmans-birthday.php

Threadkiller

Didn't employees of Brennan break into the passport files of Clinton and Obama while they were on the campaign trail?

Vast...

Threadkiller

Birthers now support Obama. Loon-hunters believe it is of consequence, but don't know why.

Threadkiller

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/obamas_passport_breach_unanswered_questions_and_an_unsolved_murder.html

centralcal

Loved the link, lyle.

lyle

Thanks, cc. Kruggy burning down Gilligan's hut was the best, no?

Threadkiller
Regulator keeps San Onofre study secret

The California Public Utilities Commission is declining to release a report by an expert on nuclear safety who was hired by the agency last year to provide insight into what went wrong at the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station.

http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jul/31/regulators/

I guess I would identity the CPUC as the enemy in my misuse of the term "asymmetrical."

clarice

Glad you are back, frau.

TK, isn't it time to apologize for posting such crap as the Carter disinfo?

As for Obama--Make him suffer--impeach Holder instead.

daddy

Excellent link Lyle. I love how Milton Friedman thought it was insane to give freeloaders something for nothing.

Meanwhile, up in Alaska: Size of 2014 PFD checks may double from 2013's $900

the annual dividend check that qualifying Alaskans will receive this year will be considerably more than the $900 checks distributed in 2013, and may approach the all-time record.

That could mean a 2014 check of $1,500-$2,000, depending on how the final numbers work out, according to Burns. The largest Permanent Fund payout in history was the $2,069.

The reason for the big bump in money Alaskans will get this fall: The 2009 fiscal year has dropped out of the five-year rolling average used to calculate the amount of money going toward dividends.

About time they were paying me what I'm worth.

Captain Hate

Welcome back, Frau. How did Cleoville survive in your absence?

Captain Hate

As for Obama--Make him suffer--impeach Holder instead.

I'm for this. Plus it would infuriate the Ferret.

Threadkiller

It is necessary to apologize even though you identified the link as a possible spoof because of time limits.

There is no time limit for issuing an apology for the trashing of a book that one never read.

Danube on iPad

"loons are the deciding factor when it comes to gaining GOP majorities" makes sense? I neither agree nor disagree with the point. I have no idea what it is.

daddy

Here's an odd local story: Tulugiagruaq

Tulugiagruaq is an Iñupiaq word for a walrus with three tusks, and the story tells us that a Rare 3-tusked walrus fills dinner tables in Barrow

Bon appétit.

WE learn that A third tusk appears in fewer than one in 1,000 walruses, but also In 20 years spent researching the animals at St. Lawrence Island, Snyder said he has seen only about 10 with extra tusks.

“I do know that there was one recently reported in Nome that had four.”

clarice

When the agreed upon principle historic arguments of an author are off the wall, there's no reason to continue on to read the entire mess IMO.

When someone consistently posts utter birther crap after having been shown day after day to be wrong, there's no reason to continue to read his posts either.

Maybe if you have something else to say, TK, you can signify that by putting an asterisk at the beginning--otherwise, adios.

Frau Steingehirn

"As for Obama--Make him suffer--impeach Holder instead."

It's racist, but I'm in! When do we start? CH, I was thinking the same thing; however, there is also Janet Reno.

Same ole, same ole in Cleoville: sustainability surges ahead. To solve the problem of the dying trees, an solar panel expert said water tanks need to be used to toss a bucket of water on dying sixty-plus-year-old trees to save them (from our city fathers and mothers half-baked ideas.)

Threadkiller

It is tough to agree or disagree as to whether loons are a problem for GOP success so it is best to treat them as influential.

Threadkiller

*adios to you too.

Frau Bierkrug

I denounce my lack of proofreading. Even preview didn't work.

daddy, explain to NK and JiB how Kölsch is *not* just a German beer!!!!!!! You are noted for your unbiased findings on beer.

Extraneus

We are saying is that 67 out of 100 Senators will not vote to remove a Democrat president from office when 54 of them are Democrats.

So if there were 67 Republicans in the Senate who would vote to convict, impeachment would be a good idea? Wouldn't the feared backlash be even worse?

I like the censure idea, though. At least it would create a formalized list of offenses. (TK, the one you linked to seemed a little off to me. I just skimmed a few items but didn't agree with any of them. For example, it says he illegally appointed cabinet members. Huh?)

Surely we can all agree on starting with Holder.

Danube on iPad

The first version was "loons are the deciding factor." Now it is "loons are a problem." I see no evidence that either version has any basis in fact.

"so it is best to treat them as influential." I know of no one who is doing so. (I assume that in this context TK uses "loon" to mean those who would like the House to impeach Obama. They have no influence at all, although TK, like Obama, wishes they did.)

Threadkiller

Would the NRLB "recess" appointments be what they meant, Ext?

Threadkiller

Not understanding what a loon refers to is a defense.

Thomas Collins

Dead Flops trade John Lackey to the Cards for outfielder Allen Craig and pitcher Joe Kelly. So the defending World Series champs have traded their number one and two starters, both of whom were key parts of the World Series win and both of whom continued to pitch fine ball this year.

daddy

Frau,

I have not yet started catch-up, so I don't know exactly what those scoundrels may have said that is uncomplimentary about Kolsch, (that marvelous nectar from the beer gods of Cologne), but without question there is not a finer beverage on the planet to quaff while eating Tulugiagruaq, or even a 4 tusk Walrus with homemade pickles!

Jane

As for Obama--Make him suffer--impeach Holder instead.

Why haven't we?

Frau,

Were you in Europe? I forget. Did you look got Caro. Apparently she is walking across the ALps.

Jane

"look got" Really?

Captain Hate

To solve the problem of the dying trees, an solar panel expert said water tanks need to be used to toss a bucket of water on dying sixty-plus-year-old trees to save them (from our city fathers and mothers half-baked ideas

That's the good thing about Clownifornia, their lunatic projects are done with sustainability in mind.

daddy

Did you look got Caro

Jane has obviously been hitting the Kolsch early this morning:)

Danube on iPad

"impeachment would be a good idea?"

Not necessarily. It would result in President Biden

"Wouldn't the feared backlash be even worse?"

Quite possibly. But with the current Senate makeup, all that need be considered is whether it would succeed in removing him from office (it wouldn't), and whether impeaching with no chance of conviction is a good idea (it isn't).

Captain Hate

We are in the best of hands:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/31/Leaders-Try-To-Resusciatate-Dying-Border-Bill

Ignatz

--"Presidents who play the victim need the help of loons because loons are the deciding factor when it comes to gaining GOP majorities."--

I took to be an ironic criticism of the seemingly paradoxical claims that loons and their lunacy have a significant deleterious impact on the Republican brand but are also dismissed as a tiny insignificant cohort with little to no influence who can safely be dismissed but nevertheless must not be dismissed but opposed and derided at every opportunity.

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