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jimmyk

I doubt most of those asked remember Carter, or his "worst" rating would have been higher. Probably so for Nixon and Johnson too, though the MSM keeps Nixon-hate alive.

miss Marple

Carter has rebuilt his reputation by going around building houses and. Being an international use body. It is only we people who were adults during his disastrous presidency that remember.

My children have tired of me ranting about Carter and everything from the selling of the Panama Canal to the betrayal of the Shah.

But by golly they know he was the worst until 2009.

Dave (in MA)

The communisty organizer himself considers himself worse than Johnson, but the Q-pollees who bothered to answer their phones probably never heard of him.

NK(withnewsoftware)

LBJ is an interesting analog to HildaBeast. LBJ was the ultimate Dem Party man, and conventional Liberal crony groomer. He was driven out of office by the 1968 Progs who were taking over the Dem party at the time. Very similar to Hildabeast 2008 and 2016 IMO.

jimmyk

Johnson has been elevated and sanctified by the left because of his (rather cynical) support of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, plus Voting Rights, Medicare, War on Poverty, etc. Combine the disasters of the last two, the overreach of the first two, and his horrific mishandling of Vietnam, and he's got to be up there in the Hall of Shame.

Extraneus

Carter was an incompetent sanctimonious prick, but LBJ was a bigger asshole.

NK(withnewsoftware)

'Sanctified'? Perhaps. More like made tolerable by the Legacy Media, who pretend that Vietnam started in January 1969 with the Nixon Admin.

Captain Hate

Guns and butter Lyndon gave us stagflation, which Nixon and Ford were both dunces about dealing with and don't even get me started on Carter. It took Reagan, an "amiable dunce" to that simpleton hack Clark Clifford, to have the non-pandering resolve to eliminate it. I was really hopeful he'd be the first of many people I was proud to vote for but the Party of Rockefeller put the kibosh on that.

Extraneus

I think Krauthammer's comment about the fence around the White House will leave a mark.

Laura White

I don't understand why Clinton gets a pass, e'en unto his scabrous wife's future. He did unspeakable things to our national dignity--we are not French, not yet, at any rate. And he is almost certainly a serial rapist. Why does no one care, outside of the right, and how do feminists live with themselves? I know the answer, "abortion rights," but that only kicks the conundrum down the road. I have not begun to mention his many other crimes and misdemeanors--the man was and is vile, and I thought it was pretty obvious. Does his easy manner really absolve him of pretty much everything? The Fourth is almost here, and I am newly heartened by the small victories at the Court, but still, this nation needs a re-birth of republican virtue.

NK(withnewsoftware)

LBJ and Arthur Burns started the Staflation fire... Carter and Fed Chair Miller made it a roaring inferno. Reagan and Volcker had the guts to put the fire out. The Left hates that history, but those are the facts.

Ignatz Ratzkiwaski

We shouldn't gloat over this.
By 2055 co-Empresses Malia and Sasha will cause anyone who can remember this far back to think fondly of the good ol days under President Barry.

jimmyk

The sanctification I was thinking about includes the various encomiums at 50th Anniversary of the Civil Rights Act gatherings earlier this year, plus the Broadway show about Johnson that is paints a generally favorable picture of him (from what I've heard).

jimmyk

Laura, it's only by comparison to Carter, Johnson, and Obama that Clinton gets a pass. But you're right that people on the left just give him a complete pass on his sexual assaults and harassments, as they did the Kennedys.

matt

I think in this case Time wounds all heels.

Laura White

You know, of all the "modern" presidents (I don't know, I think WWII was pretty modern, but who am I to say), only a few really loved and were faithful to their wives. Both Bushes and Nixon and Reagan, certainly, and Truman, Ford, and (God bless him) Carter? I don't know enough re Truman and Ford, though both seemed pretty stalwart spouses. But NOT Ike, JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Obama--not at all.

Captain Hate

Slick never received 50% of the popular vote. I never tire of pointing that out.

Danube on iPad

I don't think polls of this kind mean much, because the most votes tend to go to the more recent entries (but see Reagan). Still in all, I love the result, and hope it demoralizes the progs even more.

Captain Hate

Truman was very loyal to his harridan wife, who constantly complained about being in DC.

Captain Hate

On the subject of Presidents and their spouses, I found that Mooch, of all people, realized when 404 stuck his foot in it the other day with that witless comment about crack in the White House pastries and stepped in to do damage control. I've gleefully bashed her, along with everybody else, when she's made her own set of howlers but in this case she was the only adult on the podium and possessed much more savoir faire than her idiot husband.

jimmyk

Any photos of Obama with a fat lip from "basketball" after that idiotic remark?

Extraneus

I didn't see where MO got involved, but the idea that a president would imply that crack cocaine was somehow a desirable thing was simply a disgrace. One among many, but this one in particular was one that will probably influence a number of young people.

Beasts of England

GHWB had more girlfriends than a certain commenter here at JOM...

TexasIsHeaven

"My children have tired of me ranting about Carter and everything from the selling of the Panama Canal to the betrayal of the Shah.
But by golly they know he was the worst until 2009." Posted by: miss Marple | July 02, 2014 at 05:54 PM

Right on Miss Marple! And we have to face two more years of this jug eared marxist community organizer crapping all over us and the the White House! And the Constitution and anything else American that he can think of....

I just hope there is something left of this country by the time he is gone.

Carol Herman

Truman fired MacArthur! He did this knowing MacArthur was popular enough to win the presidency. But back in 1948, the GOP earned the "stupid label." Because they refused to nominate MacArthur as their candidate. Instead they chose John Dewey. Who had lost to FDR when FDR was practically on his death bed.

The reason given? MacArthur was "too independent." Then, when 1952 came up, and Truman "could have" run for re-election, he ran away. And, Eisenhower (with Nixon as his veep) got to run. And, to win. 1952. And, 1956. The 1960 race, between Nixon and JFK was tight. Or as Joe Kennedy said, "son, I'm not going to pay for a landslide."

When you reach 1980, you see Reagan coming up to bat. (But he wasn't supported by the insiders in the republican party!) Still, Reagan won. And, he'd do so, again, in 1984.

When republicans win it's a miracle! And, it depends on talent that the insiders in the GOP don't want inside their tent.

Extraneus

Lyle is right. Great comments on the Gay Whopper at the Ace link.

Here's a tame one.

53 The Russian Whooper comes in a box. You open that box there's another box. You open that box . . . .

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 02, 2014 02:05 PM (XUKZU)

Extraneus

Geeze, sorry I watched that, Captain. Ok, he's a bigger asshole than LBJ was.

Jack is Back!

Our Air France flight to Dulles just landed in Boston to take on fuel. Said it was bad weather in DC area & not enough fuel to wait if ATC holds. There is some merde de bull here. No bad weather in DC according to my car service and the Hay Adams. Is it a security issue in DC or Dulles?

Carol Herman

Nixon stepped down in 1974 because he had lost popular support. Still, he put in Ford. Whom the GOP faithful thought would make a great presidential candidate. LOST TO CARTER!

Sure. Obama's popularity has nosedived. But all presidents have numbers that skid up and down. (You'd have to go back to Eisenhower to find a president popular with 74% of American voters.

Plus, Americans are disgusted, now, with both parties. Candidates like Hillary suck the oxygen out of the room for other contendahs.

Meanwhile, over in Congress, where you have Boehner who falls off bar-stools, rated well below Obama.

WW2 produced heroes who could run and win elections. Not so Korea, Vietnam, Irak, or Afghanistan.

Where are we going to go to find talented people?

Jack is Back!

Just found out DC has big severe thunderstorm warning until 8:00pm.
The car service guy must be blind, deaf and dumb.

Soylent Red

Who knew there were so many A and A+ Presidents since WWII? I mean since Barry is a solid B+ and all...

Seriously, does anyone think this guy cares about a Quinnipiac poll? Other than schadenfreude for us, I seriously doubt this will puncture his ego any, or diminish his cult worshippers.

Unless it's scrolled at the bottom of SportsCenter he probably doesn't even know.

Not to be a wet blanket or anything...

Soylent Red

Where are we going to go to find talented people?

Halp us Jon Cary!

lyle

I smiled at that one, too, Ex. And, yes, that was one the tamer ones.

lyle

You're probably right, Soylent, but if it peels a few more LIVs from the cult it's worth it.

Ignatz Ratzkiwaski

--Seriously, does anyone think this guy cares about a Quinnipiac poll?--

I think he takes every slight and minor criticism as a mortal threat to his fragile little inner and outer child.

maryrose

Soylent: So good to see you posting.
sadly what you say is true.
I learned today that Val Jarrett makes over 170,000 dollars a year. What a complete waste of taxpayer money. So does Dan Pfeiffer my guess for the WH official connected to the IRS scandal. I am sure Lerner and Company were on his I-phone.

boatbuilder

I believe that all Carter votes should count for Obama as well, as it is a very close call and they play for the same team. I personally lean to Obama, and I think by 2016 he will have completely trounced all competition, but he's had 5 and a half years and Carter was cut short in the prime of his incompetence. Think of the travesties he could have carried out, the damage to the country, the absolute implosion of all we stand for he could have achieved with another 4 years! He's been trying to get that mojo back since he left office, but he won't ever get there, as Obama took everything he stood for and jacked it up another notch.

lyle

Carter's still a tyrant loving, despot fellating, blame America first, jackass. H for H aside.

rich@gmu

I'd have to give the edge to LBJ. What a disgrace.

JamesD-

I'll third your comment. 95 today here in NoVa (and yes JiB it is still looking like thunderstorms are possible, I'll wave as you fly by).

and for the incomprehensible Carol-Reagan challenged Ford in 76 and made it a close run thing (until the convention iirc). Reagan won over 20 state primaries and caucuses and carried over 45 percent of the vote. Ford won the nomination by about a hundred delegates.

rich@gmu

and looking at wunderground it was 100 here ...

Rick B

SR,

Could this poll be a skirmish in the civil war in Progistan? BOzo just ain't gonna hand over his OFA 'one ring to rule them all' and the Golem Red Witch has to control her precious or she's truly and sincerely dead. I mistrust this type of polling in general and Quinnipiac is a decent vehicle for obtaining required results.

I really don't mind seeing the Vulvarians sniping at blacks from the back of the bus.

rich@gmu

maryrose-

another incident to recall was that Austan Goolsbee had at some point access to the Koch Bros tax records. He was mouthing off to the press and then quickly exited the WH (less than a year on the job). It happened in the middle of the IRS targeting scandal and hard drive emergency lie.

rich@gmu

good to see you back in the comments SR.

narciso

Yes Nixon doesn't get blame for his daft economic policies, and too much blame for Voetsnam

narciso

Enough blame and Vietnam, so judge Walton seems to think the It's has some explaining to do

rich@gmu

and the GOPe is up to its old tricks ... http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/211189-republican-no-problem-for-house-to-pass-path-to-legal-status

>>>Farenthold called protests in response to the crisis “uninformed.”

“This is a humanitarian crisis,” he said. “The whole country needs to step up and help out.”<<<

more like a political crisis that the administration engineered for whatever bizarre reasons and eventually the borrowed money used "to help out" will have to be paid back. unsurprised that the party of stupid still sends out drones every once in a while to see if they can milk the CoC some more.

Miss Marple

OT: My unmarried sisterhas lost her dog, Norman, who she is really attached to. He was a rescue who has become her best friend. He got through an undetected hole in the backyard fence and is strolling around Old Town, Greenwood, Indiana.

I would appreciate kind thoughts and prayers. She is very distraught and will be devastated if she doesn't find him.

I put an ad on Craigs List for her, but don't know if anyone will answer. What a crummy thing to happen!

Dave (in MA)
Carter's still a tyrant loving, despot fellating, blame America first, jackass.
You could have saved a lot of typing and still have used some of the same letters.
narciso

Sarkozy is not taking the French Kangaroo court seriosly, it sounds like there is the French Ronnie Early running the thing

Miss Marple

This is Norman, my sister's dog.

narciso

So sorry to hear that Mrs marple, prayers for Norman ' s recovery

Miss Marple

Thanks, narciso.

I am so worried about my sister. She loves that dog more than anything.

Catholics could maybe pray to St. Francis for intervention, please.

clarice

Such a cute dog/ I can see why she's distraught.

Danube on iPad

I sure hope she gets Norman back, MissM. No one should lose a dog. Please keep us posted.

anonamom

I'll light my Mary candle, MM
(Available in your grocer's Mexican food section.)
They work wonders for free-floating anxiety that comes with having adult children who travel and face major life decisions.

I hope it works for the safe return of your sister's companion.
Norman is adorable.

Off to the airport an hour north to meet one of said children.

rich@gmu

MM-

prayers for Norman's safe return.

Captain Hate on the iPad

Best wishes for Norman's safe return.

Miss Marple

Thanks all for your good wishes and prayers over Norman.

Back to the main point of the thread, now.

Comanche Voter

You mentioned the urologist who tells the patient with a kidney stone "this too shall pass".

I think in Obama's case, a more appropriate medical specialist should be called in--a proctologist or a gastroenterologist. Obama is not bright enough to be a kidney stone--but he could be something else.

narciso

Re Sarkozy there was a previous charge he had received campaign contributions from a certain L'Oréal heiress, that turned out to be bogus so they finned up a charge about how he knew about the investigation

Captain Hate on the iPad

Anytime Repuke clowns like Fartinghole go on MSNBC Rove must get very happy. What part of Texas is he from? Austin?

Eric in Boise

by 2055 co-Empresses Malia and Sasha will cause anyone who can remember this far back

LoL, Ig - I tell people that the thing that terrifies me most is that thirty years from now people will look back on 2014 as a "simpler, more innocent" time.

JiB

Still sitting in Boston Logan. Refueled but no T/O slot yet. Looks like a dozen or so Heavy's had to divert here and wait out the DC weather. At least Frederick is sleeping.

The thing that sticks out in that poll is that there must be a high proportion of younger people who don't know of Carter but they do know Bush 43 and Bozo. If so, that is not the kind of news the Dems want to hear.

narciso

South Texas from corpus Christi to brownsville

Eric in Boise

Apropos of Carter, while I always got the impression that he didn't appreciate America, I never got the impression that he hated it.

I'll repeat: I always knew I'd miss Bush. I never dreamed I'd miss Carter.

narciso

Hey Jib I'm more or less settled over here, although the moving boxes are stacked like the warehouse in Raiders

Ignatz Ratzkiwaski

-- Obama is not bright enough to be a kidney stone--but he could be something else.

Posted by: Comanche Voter | July 02, 2014 at 09:15 PM --

I don't know; seems to me Barry as America's gigantic, jagged, blood curdling scream inducing kidney stone is not far off.

Captain Hate on the iPad

I'm 50/50 on Carter hating America. He's a very small vindictive man.

narciso

Maybe he was just naive before 1980, but subsequently there is no doubt. Captain did you ever finish the Burn notice cds

jimmyk

Sorry about your sister's dog, Miss M, I do hope she finds him.

Unlike the JEF, I can actually point to a few positive things Carter did: Deregulation of trucking and airlines, and starting the defense buildup. I can think of no positives for Obama, none.

rich@gmu

Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPad | July 02, 2014 at 09:19 PM-

I'm probably being too judgmental, but good grief, Cantor lost his primary bid and the crisis at the border is going to get worse as the summer drags on (Obama's own Mariel). I would think the densest at the Chamber and in the GOPe can see that the whole thing is a loser.

Danube on iPad

"I'm 50/50 on Carter hating America."

Sounds about right. I'm 90/10 on Carter thinking Americans are unworthy of him.

rich@gmu

"Office" of the President-Elect ...

clarice

Where have you moved to, narciso. I don't know why I thought you were just vacationing.

rich@gmu

narciso-

wow that was a fast move ... mine has been an interminable fiasco ... still ongoing.

rich@gmu

still some faint rumbles of thunder ...

narciso

Ormond beach, one can still move around, but just barely.

narciso

By the way, Kate upton, that is all

rich@gmu

the birthplace of speed!!!

rich@gmu

ha ...

Patriot4Freedom

Watching the vile, unrepentant killer, Bill Ayers, spout his sophistry on FNC makes one wonder, once again, how Barack oBOzo came to become friendly "acquaintances" with a domestic terrorist. Kudos to Fox and Megyn Kelly for shining the light on who Ayers is, and how he hosted a fundraiser for oBOzo.

Really . . . allowing a terrorist to host a campaign fundraiser for you, in his home, and the MFM couldn't be bothered to even mention it in their so-called "coverage" of oBOzo's campaign in 2008.

Remind me, again, who were the consultants running the campaigns of the Repubs who *wouldn't* point out the truth of oBOzo's past ?

jimmyk

who were the consultants running the campaigns of the Repubs who *wouldn't* point out the truth of oBOzo's past ?

I thought they did (at least the issue was raised quite a bit), but the MSM wasn't interested, because, you know, Obama!

narciso

Steve Schmidt (dr. Evil) Nicole Wallace (fraud bissima) and probably Ron wallace

Captain Hate on the iPhone

narc I stopped watching Burn Notice after they were all on the run.

rich@gmu

i recall that one of the senior McCain people either threatened to quit or did resign after the primary over critical Obama ads (the issue with Ayers featured)...i'll look it up.

others picked up the biggest reason, the msm didn't care.

narciso

Sorry Mark wallace, all of whom came out like a ride in Julian e's bender

Dave (in MA)

Here's hoping for the swift return of Sis Marple's little guy.

rich@gmu

i had that sort of right ...

>>>Senator John McCain’s chief advertising strategist, Mark McKinnon, announced Tuesday that he was resigning, following through on a vow he had made months ago not to work against the candidacy of Senator Barack Obama.

In telling the Cox News Service last June that he would not work against an Obama candidacy, Mr. McKinnon had said that Mr. Obama’s election to the presidency “would send a great message to the country and the world.” In that interview, Mr. McKinnon had said that he had policy differences with Mr. Obama, especially on Iraq, and that he believed Mr. McCain was best suited for the presidency because of his national security positions. But, he added, “I just don’t want to work against an Obama candidacy.”<<<

he made those comments about a year out, and sure enough, McCain though he was qualified to be the chief advertising strategist for his campaign.

Sue

Clinton was a lucky bastard. He was president when the tech bubble took off and everyone (not farmers) got rich. He had nothing to do with that but he gets credit for a booming economy.

narciso

Mark mckinnon, there was a practical reason for that course of action in the series, the city of Miami tried to extort, I mean request reasonable payment from the series, so they segued to Panama and what appeared to be the Dominican RRepublic for most of the last season

rich@gmu

Sue-

he had the sec and doj look the other way on insider trading and laddering schemes ... never doubt the sleaze

narciso

As you've probably surmised they still haven't connected the Internet or cable, hence the late night I phone postings

Jane on Ipad

I think what saved Clinton's reputation was the contract with America. What he did was irreparably harm an entire generation who no longer valued any kind of restraint in sexual matters.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Slick and his GE buds moved a lot of tech secrets to the ChiComs

Patriot4Freedom

narciso - Congrats on getting your new place!

Glad to hear your move went (relatively) quick. Never fun to live out of boxes 'til everything gets sorted out. Hope you get everything hooked up soon.

narciso

Bernard Schwartz ' s Loral did their part as well

Ignatz Ratzkiwaski

--Clinton was a lucky bastard. He was president when the tech bubble took off and everyone (not farmers) got rich. He had nothing to do with that but he gets credit for a booming economy.--

I remember George Gilder in 92 or so saying like the rooster in the morning taking credit for the sunrise Clinton would ride the coming tech wave and lo and behold.......

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Ach, my bad; I meant Loral

rich@gmu

Dave-

clever. did you 'shop that?

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