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GMax

Back down to 40% in Gallup. He has fallen and cant get up.

lyle

So does this mean the first post American president is offically now the first post post American president?

Just hope the petulant prick doesn't go and do something really stupid. Oh, wait...

Threadkiller

He's the first non-American President.

GMax

OH YEAH that Quinny poll? Its a RV poll that weights out to + 5 Democrat. I will bet anyone here a steak dinner that the midterm will not be + 5 Democrat turnout. JiB will pay off if I am wrong, he is just dying to buy someone a steak, but the odds are very very long on a midterm turning out that way. Never gonna happen.

GMax

About that opportunity that San Fran Nan sees, well that aint the way a strong majority see it either:

according to the latest IBD/TIPP Poll released Monday:

The poll found that 59% of those closely following the immigration crisis agree that “current administration policies and lack of focus on securing the border” are behind the human tide of illegal crossings. Six in 10 say that the children should be ordered to leave the country. (The survey found that 73% of Americans are following this story closely.)

lyle

Okay, I'll amend:

So does this mean the first anti-American president is offically now the first post anti-American president?

Just hope the petulant prick doesn't go and do even more really stupid shit. Oh, wait...you can count on that.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Lyle-- he will now do really horribly destructive stupid shit. Moochelle and the Iranian Rodent told him to.

Miss Marple

Well, driving around with my husband today I was talking about current events and he said, "Do you realize all you talk about is negative stuff?"

I said, "All that's happening is negative stuff!"

Frau Brennnesseln

During the rest of my life, I hope to see at least one president who loves and is proud of the country warts and all.

Review Miss Marple's recommended article in the previous thread. LUN

lyle

I'd make some joke about creating a "death pool" and start taking possibilities from JOMers as to what this jerk might do, but the "death" would be to our already dying country.

Call me morbid, then: I'll start with any easy one: Constitutional Crisis.

Who's next?

Captain Hate

We're already in a Constitutional Crisis when 404 started changing laws with no input from Congress.

Sue

And tells congress to go ahead and sue him.

lyle

Okay, that was too easy.

jimmyk

From that Quinnipiac "Worst President Poll" (via Sharyl Attkisson): Men are more likely to view Obama as worse than George W. Bush, women are more likely to see Obama as better.

Repeal the 19th Amendment.

Threadkiller

Lyle:

Journalist Fouad Hussein Called It In 2005, His Prediction About the Course of Jihad Eerily Predict Today's Events

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2014/06/events-this-weekend-reminded-me-of-this.html?m=1

What the jerk is doing lines up with a master plan, one phase at a time.

The phases are detailed in the article.

rse

Jane-to your point on the previous thread I explain to my Dem friends if they ask that my problem is govt does a great deal of things that amount to lighting dollar bills afire and now they are gone. Real people do not do that with their own money generally.

That gets through.

Captain Hate

Live Tammy is slattering Rick Perry and Jan Brewer for not mobilizing their states' National Guard to secure the border.

Extraneus

Here you go, Iggy.

At Colorado burger joint, waitresses pack heat

It's called Shooters Grill and it is located in Rifle, Colo., so naturally, the waitresses pack heat.

The burger joint, about 180 miles west of Denver, embraces the firearms theme with menu items like the "M16 burrito," "Smith & Wesson Grilled Cheese" and "Locked and Loaded Nachos." The salt and pepper shakers are made from shotgun shells. But the biggest Second Amendment statement is in the guns waitresses carry, including the Rueger Blackhawk .357 Ashlee Saenz sports.

Owner Lauren Boebert, 27, started the trend when she began carrying a pistol shortly after opening the restaurant a year ago.

"I started open-carrying maybe a month after we opened just because I am a woman in business and I was there early hours and late nights," Boebert said. "There was a man beaten to death in the alley behind my restaurant last year. It was very unfortunate."

The accessorizing caught on with the staff. But even though carrying a gun openly is legal in Colorado, Boebert nonetheless makes staffers who want to pack take an extra safety course.

Customers don't feel threatened by their servers carrying guns, she said.

"No one has ever turned around and walked out because they saw a gun," Boebert said. "They might have left because it was too crowded, praise the Lord. But not over the guns."

Threadkiller

You all know when I think the Constitutional crisis began.

jimmyk

Whew, that 2:05 upper photo is hotter than anything Hooters could ever come up with.

Captain Hate

The science is settled: Pistol packing skirts are teh hawt.

Miss Marple

Captain Hate, I could swear Perry already had some Texas National Guard down on the border, along with Texas Rangers. He was interviewed on Fox some time in the last 2-3 weeks.

jimmyk

And, as I was saying yesterday, isn't it great how wide open and unpredictable men's tennis is today? :)

Spoiler Alert

But I was right about Bouchard and Halep. That should be a blistering semi. Too bad they can't meet in the final.

sbw

Wasn’t it Maye West who said: Is that a pistol in your pocket or . . .

Captain Hate

I don't know, Miss Marple, Tammy was talking about him only saying he wanted 404 to come down and see how bad things are, like that's gonna happen.

I'd rather you be right.

Miss Marple

Captain Hate, I found this article:

http://www.kltv.com/story/25832870/gov-perry-asks-president-obama-for-national-guard-troops-predator-drones-to-patrol-border

He has deployed state security, but apparently has to ask Obama for permission to call up the guard?

Curious. I will go find out what has changed.

lyle

This editorial headline may cause this 30 year+ subscriber to WSJ to finally cancel his subscription:

The Immigration Reform Collapse

A bipartisan failure that will hurt the economy—and especially the GOP.

pagar

"Six in 10 say that the children should be ordered to leave the country."

None of these children are going to leave voluntarily, IMO. Maybe there were people who were willing to kick people who were grabbing onto overloaded helicopters on the roof of the American embassy in Saigon, but kicking children off of US airplanes in Central America is a whole different ballgame, IMO.

Miss Marple

Back in 2006, when Bush was president, Perry sent 2300 to the border at Bush's request (for those who think Bush stood by and let people walk in).

http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2006-06-30/380870/

Captain Hate

Rupert has killed a once great newspaper.

Steve

California California Protesters Await Arrival Of Undocumented Immigrants To Southern California town. Force buses to leave!

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2014/07/california-protesters-await-arrival-of.html

MarkO

This post title reminds me of a headline in my high school paper:

Where Has the True Meaning of Christmas Went?

Janet - the districts lie fallow, while the Capitol gorges itself

Rush mentioned this Reuters article - http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/02/us-usa-immigration-california-protesters-idUSKBN0F65L720140702

Anti-immigration protesters block undocumented migrants in California

They are "migrants" now?
How 'bout some of us become homesteading migrants on the property of Dem. politicians? Can we move onto the property of Obama's Chicago home? Why not? Is it AGAINST THE LAW?

Threadkiller

They didn't force those buses to do anything but waste more time and money.

The illegals were still unloaded in the United States, only now they are being processed at a frontline station instead of a retirement station.

Miss Marple

Captain Hate, The law was changed in 2007 (dem cCongress, remember) to give the president more authority over the Guard. Here is the explanation:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100902071226AAXm2aI

The governor can call them up, but the president can countermand it.

lyle

I hit your link, TK. Interesting if not prescient but one of the commenters was even better. Apologies for length but everyone should read this. Were it more eloquently written, you might thing Rick B might have penned it:

Up until the fifth phase it is pretty accurate but the problem starts when these scenarios or phases don't consider the clear possibility of civil war.

Same mistake was made by MB in Egypt when they thought that seizing power in Egypt was all they needed to do then they had free reign. But their clear barbarism backfired and the army and a lot of the populace had other plans.

I think the muzzies will be stuck in the fifth phase for quite a while and there will be a lot of infighting.

This latest idiocy from the muzzies is going to attract a lot of "waiting to be jihadis" from the west to the battleground in the middle east hence actually helping the west get rid of this threat.

It is true that 1.2 billion muslims (more accurate figure than 1.6 that everyone seems to want to quote) would be a huge force if they were all united, but it is also true that infighting between 1.2 billion idiots makes this a very uncertain civil war that will be fought for decades without a clear victor.

In the end, at the end of the so called civil war filled fifth stage, the muzzies will end up weakening each other and some power, Russia, China or the US (if it has a president with a brain) will decide to take over the oil fields and leave the muzzies to kill each other.

The fact that muzzie terrorists are so overtly barbaric makes the more powerful countries (Russia, US, China, Western Europe) unable to openly support them so there is going to be no overt alliance with these barbarians, leaving them stranded.

That is how I see it happening. This is too soon on the part of the muzzies. It is a failed project in the end.

I am glad they're idiots and making these mistakes and I also think the non Muslims should pack their bags because the shit is about to hit the fan for all the muzzies in the region and non muslims don't want to get caught in the middle of it.

pagar

From Jane on the last thread.
"Never in their minds has being a democrat equated with being for more government."

100% caused by Democrats.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/211106-senate-gop-to-epa-dont-take-away-our-fireworks

If the EPA gets their way you can say goodby to most fireworks displays.

Captain Hate

How did the country muddle through before the input of RINOs like John Warner?

jimmyk

Rupert has killed a once great newspaper.

As best as I can recall, the WSJ has always been pro-immigration. That view probably made some sense 100 years ago when it was mainly European Jews and Christians emigrating, and there was no welfare state. Even Milton Friedman understood that you can't have open borders and a welfare state, but the WSJ hasn't figured it out yet.

I still like the paper, I don't have to agree with everything in it.

NK(withnewsoftware)

The WSJ Editorial Board was for open borders during the Dow Co ownership. As a Citizen of the World beholden to no national identity, Murdoch is probably more enthusiastic about open borders; but the effect on the WSJ is marginal, if any.

Captain Hate

I wasn't talking about immigration. Reagan got snookered on immigration until he said it was his worst political mistake. I was talking more about the retreat from small government conservatism.

clarice

Friedman's point is so obvious, I don't see how even stupids like Pelosi can miss it.

henry

NK, yes. I think she was elsewhere by the time her memory starts (6th Service Command in Chicago comes to mind). For a second I wondered if it was another of my grandfather's model rr efforts (he had one in the commander's basement at West Point while a cadet). ; )

Extraneus

Burger King Launches Gay Whopper

Burger King has concocted yet another way to have it your way: a gay pride burger. The Proud Whopper, as it's called, comes wrapped in a rainbow colored wrapper with this inscription: "We are all the same inside." It will be sold through Thursday at one Burger King restaurant on San Francisco's Market Street, that was at the heart of the route for last weekend's 44th annual San Francisco Pride Celebration & Parade.

Burger King on Wednesday morning at 8 a.m. EST plans to post a two-minute video about the Proud Whopper on its YouTube channel.

"It showcases who we are as a brand," says Fernando Machado, senior vice president of global brand management at Burger King. "It shows how we, as a brand, believe in self-expression."

The inspiration behind the unusual burger wrap and video, he says, is Burger King's localized efforts to put into motion actions that support its recently-tweaked slogan: "Be Your Way."

Marlene

Jane,my daughter's lawyer friend is on vacation,daughter can't contact her.

Captain Hate

clarice, have you ever heard Pelosi natter about Catholic theology on the Sundy gab shows? There are some strange cartoons playing in her head.

Extraneus

I'm sure Friedman's point was obvious to Cloward and Piven.

jimmyk

I was talking more about the retreat from small government conservatism.

Ok, I thought you were responding specifically to Lyle's 2:14. I haven't noticed that retreat. (I don't think of immigration as a big/small government issue in any case.) But I don't read the WSJ as diligently as I once did, so I could have missed it. Do you have examples? I'm curious.


jimmyk

I don't see how even stupids like Pelosi can miss it.

They don't, they see it as a feature, not a bug.

Ignatz Ratzkiwaski

--The Proud Whopper, as it's called, comes wrapped in a rainbow colored wrapper with this inscription: "We are all the same inside."--

While I was an inattentive student at best, I did perk up with the appearance of the anatomy charts and, IIRC, the differences on the outside do actually extend inside as well.

Anyway, seems to me Der Weinerschnizel would have been the more obvious home for this "pride".
BTW is "pride" like honesty; the more someone tells you they are the less likely it's true?

Beasts of England

@pagar: Seems a but odd that the legislative branch would be pleading anything with a regulatory agency. Haha. I can't believe I typed that sentence. I'm only laughing so I won't cry...

jimmyk

I guess my 3:04 makes the same point as Ext's 3:01, only worse. :)

Jane

Mike Lee is calling for the defunding of Obamacare.

Finally.

It's 93 degrees here. I'm really happy it is not 4 degrees.

Extraneus

BTW is "pride" like honesty

heh

Extraneus

I thought they were harmonious, Jimmy.

Jane

Thanks Marlene. Don't kill yourself. I don't know the person but agreed to ask around.

Extraneus

Oh brother.

University of Utah tweaks fight song amid concerns of sexism; removes 'coeds are the fairest'

The new song replaces "our coeds are the fairest" with "our students are the finest."

The phrase "no other gang of college men" becomes "no rival band of college fans."

But the new version doesn't officially change the lyrics from "I'm a Utah man" to "I'm a Utah fan." Both are listed as options, allowing singers to choose which phrase they sing.

Officials say fans may still choose to sing the former version.

Thank you, Officials!

Extraneus
A panel of students, school officials, employees, and alumni were tasked with reworking the anthem.
DebinNC

Why did CA Dem Rep. Pelosi get the grand tour of the illegals facility in TX, but OK Repub Rep. Brindenstine was turned away from a similar facility in his own district and told to make an appointment for late July?

James D.

It's 93 degrees here. I'm really happy it is not 4 degrees.

I'd take the 4 degrees, personally. Give me cold and snow and ice and the sun going down at 4 PM, thank you very much!

(I know I'm...not exactly in the majority on this opinion)

James D.

Why did CA Dem Rep. Pelosi get the grand tour of the illegals facility in TX, but OK Repub Rep. Brindenstine was turned away from a similar facility in his own district and told to make an appointment for late July?

I'll take "Questions that Answer Themselves" for $200, Alex.

It seems like almost any question one might ask of/about Zero and his administration falls into that category.

lyle

Here's the editorial I didn't link to:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-immigration-reform-collapse-1404255501

My favorite snippet:

Immigration and trade are the two pro-growth issues on which a bipartisan compromise should be possible, and the Senate proved it by passing its bill last year. A few Republicans were willing to stand up to the talk-radio demagogues, notably Marco Rubio in the Senate and Paul Ryan and Mario Díaz-Balart in the House.

Sounds like something straight from the Huffinglue Post.

AliceH

I'm pro-immigration.

Please submit your application at the US Embassy or Consulate in your home country and we'll get back to you.

lyle
pagar

While Burger King has more locations, Chick Fil A has better food IMO. Can't remember the last time I ate in a Burger King and don't plan to eat in one in the future.

Beasts of England

Are you kidding me, lyle? As I was scrolling up I saw 'HuffPo' and when I read the quote, I had the same thought. Pro growth? This doesn't call for a beer, this requires one.

Jim Miller

Miss Marple - The good news goes in the back pages. (Of the better newspapers.)

Here's my favorite example: Once a year, the CDC releases new estimates of longevity. Every year that I have looked at them, those estimates are up.

For example, here's a summary quote from a CDC document, which you can find here:

"Between 2008 and 2009, life expectancy increased 0.5 years to 74.5 years for the black population, and 0.3 years to 78.8 years for the white population. The difference in life expectancy between the white and black populations was 4.3 years in 2009, a historically record-low level."

Incidentally, black women now have a slightly higher life expectancy than white men.

What does that mean? Again, here's my favorite example: Millions of grandmothers now live long enough to see their grandchildren graduate from high school and college.

(Anyone who wants to explore further should find more recent numbers. But this one is the first taht popped up for -- and it makes my point.)

lyle

If gay burger jokes are your thing, hit Ex's 2:57 link to the horde and read on.

DebinNC

NSome non-lib alternatives to Burger King:
Cracker Barrel, Domino's Pizza, Chick-fil-A, Outback Steakhouse, Waffle House, Wendy's

hit and run

MarkO:
This post title reminds me of

Once we had an easy ride and always felt the same. Time was on our side, and I had everything to gain. Let it be like yesterday. Please let me have happy days.

Threadkiller

From the internet:

Jim Miller

If you are wondering who those "war on women" arguments are aimed at, check out today's Seattle Times lead editorial on the Hobby Lobby case. (No link, but you shouldn't have any trouble finding it.)

They end with this paragraph: "This case is an insult to women, and personal religious liberty. How will this license to impose one's religious beliefs on others be applied next?"

(ST editorials are a strange mix of nutty, and sensible, mostly depending on the subject.)

DebinNC

Ellis Island immigrant inspection rules in 1903

Hard to believe "likely to become a public charge" was once a deal-breaker.

hit and run

Idaho or bust.

NK(withnewsoftware)

Look at Class III Ineligibility. 1 case in October 1903 of a 'Loathsome' deportation; I'm glad I was an immigrant in 1903.

Jane

Give me cold and snow and ice and the sun going down at 4 PM, thank you very much!

After last winter it might be forever before I prefer snow to sun - unless the AC goes out.

Never ever ever will I prefer it getting dark at 4:00 PM. Are you a secret Zombie James?

AliceH

"likely to become a public charge"

Isn't it still? It was in 1982.

lyle

Way to go, hit!

Captain Hate

Do you have examples? I'm curious.

First of all, like AliceH provided a clarification, my son in law is a legal immigrant so my feelings on immigration aren't anti all. Second, I was very put off by a lot of the anti Tea Party rhetoric that the WSJ promulgated. Bill Kristol, while not omniscient, very early on saw the potential of the Tea Party to revive a sclerotic GOPe which frankly has become an embarrassment. I didn't see that in the WSJ; in fact I saw a dig in your heels attitude which was very disappointing. It's like Reagan never existed.

AliceH

Belatedly realized my stupidity and/or ignorance and/or naiveté.


I wish there were an "undo" button that activated after clicking "post".

Jim Miller

I wonder if someone at the WSJ doesn't like Taranto, because it is strange, to say the least, to put a "Best of the Web" column behind a pay wall.

(Who? Knowing nothing about the internals of the WSJ, I can only speculate. I can imagine, for instance, someone who didn't care for his arguments for traditional values deciding to limit his audience.)

Dave (in MA)
I'd take the 4 degrees, personally. Give me cold and snow and ice and the sun going down at 4 PM, thank you very much!

(I know I'm...not exactly in the majority on this opinion)


+1
Not just because I hate the heat myself, but also because I wouldn't have to listen to my coworkers' flip flops flapping for 9 hours a day and it seems to help keep their BO under control just a teeny bit.

DebinNC

One of umpteen boycott conservative businesses sites, this one featuring Hobby Lobby. None of the alternatives (Michael's, JoAnn's, etc) pay their employees as much or treat them better than Hobby Lobby. Plus, like Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby is closed on Sunday. providing more family time.

James D.

I'm not a zombie, Jane.

Of course, I'd still say that if I WERE a zombie, so I don't know how much credence you can give it...

aged lurker


"I'd take the 4 degrees, personally. Give me cold and snow and ice and the sun going down at 4 PM, thank you very much!

(I know I'm...not exactly in the majority on this opinion)"


You too, James D.? We are so far from being in the majority that I did not know anyone else felt that way.

Jane

James,

I have absolutely no idea what the qualifications are to be zombie. I'm not even sure I know what a zombie is. But I assume they like the dark.

clarice

As far as I know "likely to be a public charge" is still a deal breaker under the law. I always had to show that immigration clients would support themselves and there was a law precluding immigrants from citizenship if they ever took public welfare funds.

CH:clarice, have you ever heard Pelosi natter about Catholic theology on the Sundy gab shows? There are some strange cartoons playing in her head.--Never watch TV but if you look at her face you can see the lights are on but nobody's home.

cathyf

From the other thread, the SCOTUS HL decision is quoted:

The Court assumes that the interest in guaranteeing cost-free access to the four challenged contraceptive methods is a compelling governmental interest
Isn't "assumes" in this case a term of art? We have a law, that Congress passed with full-throated Democrat support signed into law by a Democrat president. That law says that when the government has a compelling interest in something that infringes on people's religious freedoms, the government has to act in the way that least infringes. In other words, there are two conditions, and BOTH must be satisfied. So the regulation can be struck down by showing that one condition is not satisfied, and simply ignore the other condition at this time. This is just logic 101, nothing special. With the RFRA, it's even more special case in that the law requires the least restrictive measure to be used, and so, again by basic logic, a single example which is less restrictive blows the entire government case out of the water. That's true whether or not the example brought forth as less satisfies the tighter constraint of least. And that's without even going to the First Amendment.

In this case the scariest part is that we've got 4 justices who thought that the regulations satisfied the requirements of the law, when it wasn't even remotely close.

Captain Hate

Btw I had my stress test on Monday and still haven't heard anything from the cardiologist. Mrs H assures me that's a very good thing because when she's received bad news in that area before, the feedback was almost immediate. So you're probably stuck with my pixels for quite a bit longer, subject to fate.

Captain Hate

In this case the scariest part is that we've got 4 justices who thought that the regulations satisfied the requirements of the law, when it wasn't even remotely close.

Levin was focusing on this two days ago.

Buford Gooch

On that gay pride burger, is it mostly ordered, "Hold the pickle"? Just wondering.

Skoot


Are not the Church Amendments still in effect?

The Supreme Ct just held abortifacients = abortion for Religious Liberty purposes, so how can the fed pay for them as suggested by some commenter’s?

And does anyone think, say a Catholic group refuses to comply by refusing to forward a form or letter, Is #NineZero going to impose odious fines in light of Hooby Looby? I doubt it. I think the contraception mandate in total is kaput.

He’s such a "daddy left me wah wah" screwed up masochist that he may dare Alito to punish him again. What a jackass.

clarice

I'll be happy to be "stuck" with your pixels for years and years to come, CH.

clarice

thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/mississippi-burning-3300-cochran-to-resign-true-the-vote-sues-barbour-investigated-and-more/

clarice

More than sifficient evidenced of illegal voting and fraud; Cochran rumored to resign if new vote called for.

Dave (in MA)

CH keep the pixels coming.

Is the gay whopper made with smuggled sausage instead of ground beef?

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