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Dave (in MA)

Well, I wouldn't have to be dicking around with hwclock on these frickin' Linux VMs that a European customer keeps giving me to test on.

clarice

Love this, TM! In a world full of strife and trouble, it's nice to know MI is still around to amuse.

Porchlight

Zulu time!

NKtryin' tologin

Porch@5:48-- too funny; does MattyI even mention Zulu time? (I refuse to read that link, I have few brain cells to sacrifice to stupid)

TomM-- lay off MattyI; at least he's aiming high here, stopping the earth rotating on its axis and revoving about the Sun. What was it Galileo said? "And yet it moves."

Porchlight

I don't know, NK, I can't go to Vox for the same reason. It sucks brain cells and I'm short my quota as it is.

centralcal

Aw, let's just do away with time altogether.

Dave (in MA)

Daddy would end up having to walk the dogs in the middle of the night.

NKtryin' tologin

Porch-- OK so we'll both mock MattyI without knowing what he actually said.... works for me!

rse

I was afraid one of my kids had contacted TM and told him about the time, preoccupied with research, I left the meat out of the dirty rice.

You can just imagine the enunciation and tone of voice with which I heard "Special, Mom."

Porchlight

Me, too. ;)

cathyf

Ah, yes, those were the days... Watching unix sysadmins argue over how to timestamp files. It was quite the knock-down, drag-out fight back in the day. It did make you think really hard about things which are much more complicated than they appear.

NKtryin' tologin

OK I tossed a handful of brain cells into the pit and scanned the MattyI piece; he does sugget a GMT/Zulu unitary time zone.

Danube on iPad

In the USN communications times are always given in Zulu time (GMT) so everybody around the world is on the same page for operational stuff.. But you keep the clocks on your ship at local time.

BTW, the reason the Brits got to be the reference point for the world is that they were the first to develop a chronometer of sufficient accuracy to allow you to determine your longitude at sea; a guy named Harrison devoted his life to its development. The story is well told in a marvelous book entitled Longitude.

cathyf

Interesting factoid which I saw claimed once and have not actually confirmed for myself -- that the boundaries of the time zones are all artificially pulled to the west. For example, if you divide the planet up into 24 even intervals, and Greenwich is exactly in the middle of its interval, Chicago would be in the middle of Central Time not the edge as it is now. Certainly makes sense...

I have always been delighted by Indiana's eye-rolling 'whatever' on the subject of time zones. They've come into line much more in the last few decades.

NKtryin' tologin

"Longitude", one of my favorite books ever. I still have a headache from trying to master the concept of measuring longitude. I'll never get those brain cells back.

MarkO

Dear God, that boy is stupid.

MarkO

Cows are not confused by daylight savings.

NKtryin' tologin

But MattyI is.... what are we to conclude from that? Hmmmmm?

Danube on iPad

If you know what time it is in Greenwich, then the time when the sun reaches its highest point at your location ("local apparent noon") tells you how far west of Greenwich you are.

Skoot

So not since Johnson have we lost a general officer in combat. A fitting legacy for 404.

Danube on iPad

E.g., if your LAN occurs at 1600Z, you know you you are one-sixth of the way around the world to the west of Greenwich, or 60 degrees west longitude.

Marlene

Time zones are why the Canadian Maritimes tourists crowd the restaurants here at 11am for lunch. :) Unless daddy is in China or a JOMer is in Europe,I'm the first to see the sunrise. Cadillac Mtn. in Acadia sees sunrise first in Oct.-March. Mars Hill Mtn. in far northern Maine sees first sunrise March-Sept.

NKtryin' tologin

DoT-- don't pull that Canoe U easy as pie stuff. For this Queens Boy understanding the interface between sextant read 'local apparent noon' (how the hell was that determined?) and comparing it to the Harrison Greenwich chronograph and latitude charts maintained by the Captain was a painful chore for me.

narciso

the pride of Dalton and Harvard, paging Graham Chapman,

so one of these bits of received wisdom, was that occupied countries yielded more terrorists than most, this was the insight of Dr, Robert Pape, of the U of Chicago, well explain Syrian then, which is the facehugger
nest of the modern jihad,

Beasts of England

Time zones are racist!

And all the good stuff happens after 2:00 a.m... That's why I have these dark circles under my eyes.

MarkO

Someone here has a masters degree in math.

GMax

Iglesias, the gift that keeps on giving. Mark it down, he is not done with the stupid. It sticks to him like superglue and he NEVER seems to notice, which of course makes me laugh.

MarkO

Do stupid people know they are stupid?

Danube on iPad

As the sun approaches its zenith, you put the sextant on it and keep checking its altitude which of course will be increasing. The first time it decreases, you know you've just had LAN.

NK, you will no doubt be as dismayed as I am to learn that celestial navigation is no longer taught at Canoe U.

GMax

And while we are on the subject, ya gotta admit watching John Kerry being humiliated on the world stage is too rich for words. Rasmussen finds a 44% favorable rating for Lurch today. He probably rues the day he got the call from Zero, but his rating has only one direction to go, and that is south.

Thomas Collins

Whether time zones are stupid or smart, the stupidest idea for 2014 is the AL keeping the DH. Each year the AL keeps this rule, it's the stupidest idea of the year. The rule ruins the fun of second guessing so many managerial decisions that fandom is the poorer for it.

Yes, some things I just have trouble letting go of! :-))

NKtryin' tologin

DoT-- I am getting that headache again. Not taught at Canoe U? Is it described in the Aubrey-Maturin novels?

MarkO

TC, my youngest son is with you. He was a fine amateur player and thinks the DL is an abomination along the lines of Barry Bonds.

Thomas Collins

Good for your youngest son, MarkO. I hope he becomes Commissioner of Baseball and insists the AL DUMP THE DH!

I'm so agitated I'm channeling Gus!

Buford Gooch

MarkO, pretty much all of the stupid people I know think they are smart. Truly retarded people know they aren't smart, but the 93 IQ ones don't seem to know.

Beasts of England

Thanks for that info, Skoot. I couldn't remember if we had lost one in the Middle East or not. No idea that it went all the way back to Johnson. Sad. And it's not like BHO or the media truly give a damn. Thankfully (hopefully?) MomJeans won't be able to use the funeral as a photo-op.

Skoot

MG Greene graduated from RPI and was commissioned as an engineer. Held a PhD in Materials Science from USC and a PE from the commonwealth of VA. He was PEO IEW&S (Intelligence, Electronic Warfare and Sensors) before current assignment. The kind of guy you want pushing tech for the Army. A terrible loss.

Beasts of England

So, we've lost an ambassador and a 2-star general under Obama. Where's the outrage? Seriously. Where's the outrage?

JiB

From navigator school at Mather:)

" The pilot was sitting in his seat and pulled out a .38 revolver. He placed it on top of the instrument panel, and then asked the navigator, "Do you know what I use this for?"
The navigator replied timidly, "No, what's it for?"
The pilot responded, "I use this on navigators who get me lost!"
The navigator proceeded to pull out a .45 and place it on his chart table.
The pilot asked, "What's that for?"
"To be honest sir," the navigator replied, "I'll know we're lost before you will."

source: http://www.jokebuddha.com/joke/Pilot_and_Navigatorsuch_Good_Friends#ixzz39Z0g6E6M"

Danube on iPad

I'm outraged that the general was even there. This was a "surge" that was doomed to fail on the day it was announced, as was widely and accurately predicted. It was undertaken solely so that Obama could follow up on his campaign rhetoric about the "good" war and the "bad" war. He has squandered a hard-won victory in the bad war, and has quadrupled U.S. fatalities - to no effect - in the unwinnable one.

daddy

TM,

I'm excited about this idea, but I think instead of calling it GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) we need to call it GKT (Greenwich Kumbaya Time). "Mean" is just so White Imperialist don't cha' think?

Ignatz


--Do stupid people know they are stupid?

--

Could you repeat the question?

Captain Hate

They don't even pretend any more:

http://ht.ly/zZTgA

gospace

Danube said: "In the USN communications times are always given in Zulu time (GMT) so everybody around the world is on the same page for operational stuff.. But you keep the clocks on your ship at local time."

Except on submarines.

daddy

Meanwhile, The Russdians show us that this sanctions game can be played by both sides: Moscow may force European airlines to fly around Russia

For example, here's a standard "Big Circle" route from London to Manila:

Obviously if you wanted to do the same route to Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc, they would face the same problem.

And with The Ukraine already off limits for overflights, and now Iraq, to get from the west to the east is going to involve threading your way over Turkey and thru Iran and the 'Stans, or doing stuff further south, all at very increased fuel costs.

Currently the Rooskies are sonly talking about banning overflights of Siberia, which would clobber me and long haul planes trying to do over the Pole sort of treks, but regardless it'd make air travel less timely and convenient, and obviously more expensive.

Ignatz

Remember this 2008 quote from Barry?

“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child.

That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”

If $4 Trillion in eight years is irresponsible and unpatriotic what is $7 Trillion in five and a half?

daddy

For this Queens Boy understanding the interface between sextant read 'local apparent noon' (how the hell was that determined?) and comparing it to the Harrison Greenwich chronograph and latitude charts maintained by the Captain was a painful chore for me.

NK,

I like how Dava Sobel in her preface to "Longitude", talks about her parents were carpy at Geography and were only able to get from anywhere in Manhattan by going way the heck out of their way and going via Canarsie.

Threadkiller

I was looking for a kinda, sorta on-topic quote from Shemp that I saw earlier today.

He had the African summit on and was waiting for Obama to show up. As he grew impatient at the perpetually late Prezzy, he said something the the effect of: "there is everybody else time, and there is daylight Obama savings time."

Couldn't find the clip so you'll have to settle for this rant:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/greghengler/2014/08/05/nyc-buses-crashshep-smith-rants-how-he-hates-them-n1875212

James D.

I'll join in with the praise for "Longitude" - fantastic book!

I never saw it, but A&E did a TV movie based on the book with Professor Dumblefore as John Harrison...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0192263/

maryrose

daddy:
I can totally relate to Sobel's parents because I have a terrible sense of direction.
It has come to the point now that I go opposite the way I believe I have to go in order to be correct and find my way home.I also must drive 4 or 5 times to a place inorder to feel confident I can arrive there.
Tomorrow I get an updated prescription for new lenses for my glasses. Yea1 I'll be able to see again.

henry

MI should go for metric time while he's at it... solves the kilometers / hour confusion we have when driving in Canada.

Beasts of England

The littlest Beastette is finally settled into her first non-dorm residence at school. She and a few sorority sisters were fortunate to land a brand new house within walking distance of the stadium campus. And she has her own bathroom - and you can imagine how our VP would assess that!

She raided our storage unit and the attics of both grandmothers, and, between her and the roommates, needed nothing for a housewarming gift. She asked for a subwoofer for her SUV, instead! lol!

There's a lot to be said for witnessing the unbridled joy that such freedoms and, frankly, luxuries afford. The only thing in it for me is a great parking spot on game days and good ice for my Bloody Mary's. ;)

maryrose

TK;
I think Shemp's new assignment has him a bit cranky and out of sorts. He doesn't seem very happy always "Breaking News".

James D.

MarkO @ 7:03 - I'm with your son. Down with the DH! Away with the wild card!

daddy

Do stupid people know they are stupid?

Always loved this bit about Socrates tho' I've seen it written up much better.

When told that the Oracle of Delphi had revealed to one of his friends that Socrates was the wisest man in Athens, he responded not by boasting or celebrating, but by trying to prove the Oracle wrong.

So Socrates decided he would try and find out if anyone knew what was truly worthwhile in life, because anyone who knew that would surely be wiser than him. He set about questioning everyone he could find, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer. Instead they all pretended to know something they clearly did not.

Finally he realized the Oracle might be right after all. He was the wisest man in Athens because he alone was prepared to admit his own ignorance rather than pretend to know something he did not.

But then on the other hand, there's quick learners, like Mark Twain's Father:

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”

maryrose

Beasts;
How does it feel to have your youngest out of the nest and growing up so fast?

Jim Miller

I see Baroness Sayeeda Warsi has resigned from Cameron's cabinet, over Gaza.

That's probably a slight plus for him, politically.

The Daily Mail (and, I imagine, every other news source in Britain) has a big story on the resignation. The DM's story already has almost 3,000 comments, which is quite high, for them,

James D.

On topic, I keep waiting for Yglesias' own intestines to leap straight through his heck and throttle him in an effort to save civilization from his stupidity, as happened to the second worst poet in the Universe, according to Douglas Adams.

Beasts of England

Bad sense of direction? I flew into LAX about fifteen years ago and Hertz had just released their 'Never Lost' GPS program in their rental cars. Mine had one. I carefully programmed in my destination, hit start, and cruised out of the parking lot like I owned the town.

First command I received: 'At the first available opportunity, make a legal U-turn.' I had to pull over I was laughing so hard. Never lost, my foot. Try me!! :)

narciso

Boris Johnson seems as stupid about Gaza, as he was with Iraq, from the Guardian piece on the resignation

Danube on iPad

"Except on submarines."

Proud to say I wouldn't know.

Beasts of England

It's a trip, maryrose. Easier than the older daughter, but still tough. It's been really brutal for my ex - our girls are her life (and she's a damned fine mother) and I truly worry about her as an empty-nester...

daddy

Do stupid people know they are stupid?

Let's ask Joe Biden!

”There’s no reason the nation of Africa cannot and should not join the ranks of the world’s most prosperous nations in the near term, in the decades ahead,” the vice president of the United States of America said. “There is simply no reason.”

I happen to recall that when FOX reporter Carl Cameron said that he had heard from some anonymous source that Sarah Palin stupidly thought Africa was a country, that that hearsay hit the news as big as her "There are places in Alaska where you can see Russia" truism.

Wonder if Biden's "the nation of Africa" will get a s much ribbing?

BTW, a Moroccan Long Distance swimmer is in town to try to swim the 3 miles separating Russia from America

The plan is to swim from Alaska’s Little Diomede Island to Big Diomede Island in Russia. The Russian government has yet to give full approval to the plan to land on their shore. If he does not receive permission, Baraka said he will swim from the international date line back to Little Diomede.

if a swimmer can swim between two continents that means we are very close together and we are all brothers,” Baraka said.

Tell it to Sarah Palin.

Carol Herman

It works for a flat earth.

And, it would also "work" if we had one weather report. That way you could always carry an umbrella.

Of course this idea is stupid! And, gives new meaning to being "where the sun don't shine." With, or without your pants on.

daddy

What a boring Baseball Game.

5th Inning, Yanker's up 3 to 1 over Detroit, and not a single shot yet of Kate Upton in the Grandstands.

Beasts of England

Hopefully Kate brought a glove. I have no idea where else she might be able to secure a pop fly...

narciso

they used that stupid anecdote on Julianne's
Bender, which they ran on four HBO channels
on one morning:

the Telegraph piece shows how worthless the Tories, have become,

Ignatz

--MI should go for metric time while he's at it... solves the kilometers / hour confusion we have when driving in Canada.--

LOL, henry.

(A)Nuther Bub

Our fishwrap had an amusing mini-headline today:

Delay in Seeing Doctor Cut in Half

Sounds brutal. I'm glad they've put it off.

Jim Miller

One possible weird result in our primary today, here in Washington state. Like California, we switched to a "top two" system some years ago.

The big election is the primary over in the 4th district. (Doc Hasting held it for many years, but has retired.)

It's a very Republican district; for example, Mitt Romney carried it, 60-38, in 2012.

But it is just possible that the voters there may have to choose between two Democrats this fall, because a slew of Republicans are running, and, I think, only two Democrats.

If that happens, and I were running the party, I would strongly consider running a write-in candidate. Assuming, that is, you could find one that every Republican would agree to unite behind. Unfortunately, one of the Republican candidates is Clint Didier, who has not been a team player, in politics.

(In my own 1st district, Pedro Celis is likely to come in second, beating out a fellow named Moats.)

daddy

TM,

I got an offer you can't refuse...

Because we have finally learned the reason why all these Alaska Reality TV Shows are multiplying like mushrooms---the out of State guys producing them are subsidized by our State coffers.

As films disappear, state subsidies explode for Alaska-based reality shows

Among the 32 applications that have pre-qualified for the film incentive in the past year are:

-- 12 “unscripted” or reality TV shows, for an estimated subsidy of $6.8 million.

-- Nine documentaries, expected to receive $4.2 million.

-- Four commercials, for an estimated subsidy of $2.2 million.

-- Seven features or shorts at $1.7 million.

So who's making all that Moolah, Locals or "Out-of-Staters?

"For every dollar earned by an Alaska worker under the subsidy program last year, out-of-state workers earned five."

I suggest TM put in for a subsidy of about 2 million a year to Produce a Reality TV Show called "Alaska Dog Walking Adventures with daddy".

TM, all I want is enough for dog-food and to pay tuition at Dartmouth for my oldest. You keep what's left. Deal?

Jim Miller

Speaking of the Torygraph, let me recommend Daniel Hannan's post on left-wing anti-Semitism, which I linked to a few days ago. It is quite good.

narciso

he's a little like a honey badger,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/08/01/clint-didier-releases-statement-on-hillary-clinton-the-redskins-name-and-benghazi/

yes, Hannan is quite good, I think the Telegraph was better when Conrad Black owned it, there's an object lesson there,

clarice

I didn't know this but a few years ago Canada defunded UNRWA,http://www.frontpagemag.com/2010/jamie-glazov/canada-defunds-a-terror-supporting-u-n-agency/#.U9_UcMttgGQ.twitter

Imagine if the Republicans insisted we follow their lead.

Jim Miller

Clarice - Once or twice, when commenters at Kate's site (Small Dead Animals) have been complaining about Prime Minister Harper, I offer to trade leaders.

So far, no one there has agreed to the exchange.

Jane on Ipad

AB,

What 2 storms are you expecting?

narciso

yes, Brigitte Goldstein pointed it out on Megyn's show, to which the UNWRA spokesman,
Gunness, yelled squirrel

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/04/egypt-consider-military-action-libya-amr-moussa

Threadkiller

How about "Daddy's Garage Door Diaries"

Miss Marple

Man this pro-Hamas guy on Fox is a completely obnoxious person.

Regarding Daylight Savings Time, it is the only thing I fault Mitch Daniels for.

We used to sit here happily and not change our clocks. In the summer we were on Chicago time, and in the winter we were on New York time. Easy - peasy.

BUT, the rest of the country got confused! And so, to keep the rest of the country from getting confused, we had to switch OUR clocks. So now, twice a year, we have to be disoriented along with everyone else.

And furthermore, until the mid-50's we used to be on CENTRAL time, but they moved the dividing line.

It is a constant annoyance to me as I am an early riser and I do not like getting up in the dark. And I do not like it not getting dark until almost 10PM in the summer.

Bah.

Beasts of England

Save some room in your budget for a catchy theme song by GUS and his ALL CAPS Band, daddy. We need the exposure.

Miss Marple

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/08/04/3365612/drug-given-to-american-ebola-victims.html

Made in Kentucky from tobacco plants.

I wonder if smokers have a lower incidence of ebola infection. That would be ironic.

Captain Hate

Don't get me started on time changes...

narciso

He is a total tool, where did they find this twit?

rich@gmu

evening all. catching up....

Jim Rhoades-

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Hope everything goes well.

beasts-

lol. got the text, you lucky devil.

rich@gmu

Matt Yglesias-what can you say?

Good grief. Hard to believe Bezos turned down the Voxsplainers business plan.

(A)Nuther Bub

Jane, I'm expecting Iselle late tomorrow or Thursday and Julio on the weekend. Could get interesting.

Miss Marple

I see no stories about the ebola virus which contain comments believing thegovernment.

Every group of comments is 95% disgusted and disbelieving. This epidemic is creating even more distrust of Obama, if that is possible.

Some lady called into Rush today and said she was convinced that Obama is deliberately trying to kill us because he hates us.

If this virus does end up escaping and infecting people, I foresee pitchforks and torches on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Miss Marple

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/iraqi-yazidis-stranded-on-isolated-mountaintop-begin-to-die-of-thirst/2014/08/05/57cca985-3396-41bd-8163-7a52e5e72064_story.html?hpid=z1

There are a lot of them, 20, 000.

This is directly Obama's fault, as he wouldn't bomb Isis.

I am going to bed and say a prayer. And the only person who has covered this is Tapper.

rich@gmu

on the situation in Gaza. I can understand the US might at times need to lie and "find the nuance" regarding unpleasant groups, but Hamas are a bunch of Nazis and are a designated terror group.

People have gone to jail for supporting them in the US. The Holy Land Foundation trials were all about sending money to Hamas (the first round of trials were hung juries and the second crack produced guilty verdicts and long jail terms).

rich@gmu

think if i started screaming and throwing things, i'd wake the neighbors ...

daddy

Save some room in your budget for a catchy theme song by GUS and his ALL CAPS Band, daddy.

Beasts,

Obviously I'd expect some trickling down of the economics from TM. We'd need an episode where the Gourd's come to Nome and I fly out there to walk with the pup's around Wyatt Earp's Saloon, and then we'd have to have Stephanie come up to an Indian Casino with TM supplied quarters for the slots. Clarice would need to visit for pickle expertise, Frau for beer drinking, Jane for skiing tips, Narciso for Sarah Palin-ogling...This thing basically writes itself I'm telling you:)

henry

MM, better yet that is a GMO tobacco creating the serum proteins. FrankenSmokes save lives!

rich@gmu

and another leak (and leaker) of intelligence info from Greenwald ... wonder what the end game is?

rich@gmu

Posted by: (A)Nuther Bub | August 05, 2014 at 09:54 PM -

stay safe.

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