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henry

Even lefty crazed Madison dumped the WI AG gal who got caught driving drunk. Does the NYT think Lehmberg is a Kennedy or something?

Dave (in MA)
having done great harm to immigrants
There seems to be a word missing here. What kind of immigrants?
Sue

Great harm? I guess that's why we keep electing him. We dig great harm.

Ignatz

Great harm to abortion abattoirs and illegal immigration is not seen as a negative in most of the country.
How exactly did he do great harm to people without health insurance?
Prevent them from buying some or prevent them from moving to a state that will buy some for them?

Least thoughtful? They mean wrong thoughtful.

narciso

thought crime, must be real crime of course if they could they would put the Texas leg in the
doc.

they don't focus on the absurdity of indicting him for a veto, that Patterico has zeroed in on.

James D.

I love this from the NYT:

But bad political judgment is not necessarily a felony

Am I the only one who can clearly see the unwritten "unfortunately" or "is regrettably not yet a felony" in there?

narciso

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:


www.libyaherald.com/2014/08/19/more-missiles-fall-on-tripoli-residential-areas-in-defiance-of-air-strikes/#axzz3AqTzLOyBhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/us-iraq-security-un-idUSKBN0GF1T320140815

clarice

12 eyewitnesses now confirm Darren Wilson's account of Brown's shooting.

jor

Heh. Indictment sounds silly, but Texas is last in almost all social measures.

Education #50th of all states
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment

Texas ranks as highest in uninsured. And also ranks in top 10 in # in poverty.

Economy though is relatively good.


Danube on iPad

I sure am eager to hear from those twelve.

clarice

Grand jury begins tomorrow,DoT.

clarice

http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/19/preliminary-report-over-a-dozen-witnesses-back-darren-wilsons-story/
Post-Dispatch reporter Christine Byers sent a tweet late Monday teasing her findings.


Wilson’s claims match a woman who called herself “Josie” who called into Dana Loesch’s radio show on Friday. CNN confirmed with police officials that what Josie told Loesch matches what Wilson says happened during his encounter with Brown.

According to Josie, Wilson, a six-year police veteran, claims Brown assaulted and then “bum rushed” him during their encounter on August 9.

The assault followed after Wilson drove upon Brown and a friend walking in the street. Wilson told the two to move to the sidewalk. After driving forward, Wilson reportedly received a dispatch call about a strong-arm robbery at a convenience store.

Brown allegedly stole cigars from the store and shoved a store clerk. According to Josie, Wilson says he saw the cigars and then confronted Brown and his friend.(more)

Rick B

They have to start soon. Keeping the witnesses under protection from Holder's Civil Racist Team is expensive.

the wolf

"Bad political judgment" = "Things the NY Times doesn't like"

Pagar

"Ranks as highest"

Anyone think that illegal immigration might cause a lot ot those rankings?

fdcol63

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Claire Wolfe
101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Jane

"Grand jury begins tomorrow,DoT."

Since Holder arrives tomorrow, I'm doubtful any of those 12 will be called to testify.

Threadkiller

Search for "Operation Zero Footprint: The bombshell truth about Benghazi?" If you want to read Allen Wests latest.

Linking him never works here.

Jane

FBI confirmed document that says new black panther leader is in area encouraging violence against cops did indeed come from FBI

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/snitch-alert-new-black-panther-leading-protests-in-st-louis-is-police-informant/

I'm not sure I get it. So the FBI is working with the black panthers to encourage rioters to kill cops?

Captain Hate on the iPad

Sooo Carlos Slim's barely house trained monkeys don't like Rick Perry? What were the chances?

jimmyk

Clarice, I thought Josie was a friend of Wilson's and was just restating what he'd told her (per DoT in the previous thread).

Gov. Rick Perry of Texas is one of the least thoughtful and most damaging state leaders in America

As if the NYT's leftist credentials would ever be doubted. This reminds me of when W was in office, and whenever someone in Hollywood or anyone center or left would say something positive about Bush, it would always be prefaced by something like "Of course he's been a horrible president, but...."

Danube on iPad

Bear in mind that Josie is not an eyewitness. She's simply giving a hearsay account of what Wilson told her.

The flow of information from the various authorities is just plain mystifying.

Comanche Voter

Perry's "bad judgment"? He's got a rogue DA in Travis County on his hands; that office has been an embarrassment to the State of Texas. That office had been hounding one of the Governor's pet programs for a year.

It's headed by a woman who, based on video evidence, is fat, drunk and stupid. As Dean Wurmer said, that's no way to go through life. She's an embarrassment to prosecutor's offices throughout the state.

So Perry lifts up his line item veto pen, and encourages Ms. Fat, Drunk & Stupid (and I might add sloppy) to leave the hog pen that's the Travis County DA's office. And the NYT thinks that's "bad judgment" on Perry's part?

I'd say that the new owner of the New York Times has some hog pen cleaning that he needs to do pronto.

narciso

well it might like with that new series, Legend, where Sean Bean plays a deep cover agent in various militant organizations, then again who knows with this administration.

why are we not targeting ISIS top men, like Al Adnani, instead of errant artillery pieeces and
whatever lemming is manning them,

henry

Wishful thinking on my part, but does the NYT reaction remind anyone of Brit snobbery post empire? Perhaps they realize the empire of the left is collapsing before their eyes and can only snark at wogs colonials fly over state economic success which the coasters are not capable of matching.

Rick B

"The flow of information from the various authorities is just plain mystifying."

The locals are declining to join the DoJ lynch mob. There's no mystery at all.

DebinNC

MB lawyer to Nancy Grace last night in discussion about MB's reported hand wound:

"Nancy, without question, there was some level of interaction, strong interaction, between the officer and Michael at the car. We don`t deny that,” Daryl Parks, attorney for Brown’s family said Monday night. “I think as evidence comes out, you'll see and hear more of that. But that`s not what killed him.” [HLN]

jimmyk

Reposting from the previous thread: Didn't Baden or some ME claim that there was no sign of any struggle between Wilson and MB?

narciso

Carlos Slim's isn't the only one with this type of rote printing of press releases:

https://twitter.com/DevlinBarrett/status/501483565994229760

DebinNC

He sure did, jimmyk.

Jane

OT: According to Caro it is snowing in the Italian Alps.

Global warming sucks.

Beasts of England

Strong interaction? Euphemisms 'R' Us!

jimmyk

Yes, Deb, via TK on the previous thread:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/forensic-pathologist-there-was-no-evidence-of-a-struggle-when-michael-brown-was-shot-20140818

So is Baden just lying? Or perhaps claiming Wilson inadvertently head-butted Michael Brown's fist, or he accidentally banged his head on the car door?

mike in houston

BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack

LUN

narciso

It was on account of his mischief, Beasts,

so Baden says the bullet to the eye,traversed and exited through the jaw, was Wilson a sniper, how does that happen?

Dublindave

It's up to the Democratic black caucus to finally get this message out to their communities: the only way mothers are going to stop their babies from being hunted down and murdered by white police officers is to vote for Democrats this fall. Not voting for Democrats this fall is akin to murdering your own child.

Also,Fathers within the African American community have to understand that they are not men if they cower at home in the darkness on voting day hoping to placate white by being a "good boy". Whitey don't care if you're an obedient n*****. He gonna kill you anyway so might as well vote for Democrats this fall and buy yourself some protection againt whitey.


Young AA men....if you want to stop being harassed and searched by white men who laugh at you back at the station among their white friends about the power they exerted over you then get registered a VOTE DEMOCRATS THIS FALL.

If we can use Ferguson to up voter turnout this fall then we might be turning those slivers of margins back in our direction and we might just hold onto the Senate. We need to hit the "War on voting" big and keep the media eye on Ferguson, where apparently it's deemed acceptable to shoot an unarmed college kid(was he shot because he was going to college...did whitey hear about it and target him?????)

Beasts of England

Thanks, mike in houston! Strong interaction, indeed...

henry

Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket

my brother got one of those (soccer ball to eye, not kicked by me). That is bad news for DW, permanent visual impairment likely as eye muscles get ripped up when that happens.

Captain Hate on the iPad

The trolls are going all in on Ferguson. Internal donk polls must look brutal.

Threadkiller

It seems as though they keep describing "4 bullets to the arm" instead of "3 to the arm and one to his punching fist."

Could a bullet fragmenting through clubber's knockout-game tool obscure the telltale signs of a "struggle?"

I'm certain the DoJ will clarify.

Some Guy

But bad political judgment is not necessarily a felony

So we can put the Times down as PRO drunk-driving-prosecutors!

clarice

Josie's account is hearsay.The cops say there are 12 eyewitnesses confirming Josie's--that is, Wilson's account. The ferguson police are obviously using their links to the St Louis reporter to keep Holder from lynching Wilson and screwing their community to fatten Crump's wallet.

Danube on iPad

Tomorrow's grand jury is state, not federal. Holder won't be involved.

Threadkiller

I should have warned the ten-year olds that their was a cartoon pecker and ballsack in my previous post.

Beasts of England

Agreed, Captain. Even at the GP link they're being trolled about the eye injury report. This may be the worst narrative fail evah!

Dublindave

Doesn't look good when a bullet ricochets off the top of a shooting victim's eye socket and exits below his cheek. It could only do that if the victim where bending over-as in getting on the ground.

Also,the bullet that entered the top of the vics head indicates that he was bent all the way over when the white police officer thought it would be a goo idea to blow his brains out.


Not good,not good at all.

I think it's perfectly apt to question if Brown was targeted by the white police because he was attending college.

Dublindave

sorry...good idea

Danube on iPad

This eye socket news illustrates my point. Why the hell are we just learning about this now?

Eric in Boise

Is that what that is, TK? It looked like a big "U" to me. I thought it stood for "underclass", or something.

Thanks for clarifying. I'm REALLY REALLY offended now.

Porchlight

Texas ranks as highest in uninsured. And also ranks in top 10 in # in poverty.

That tends to happen when there are several hundred thousand uneducated jobless aliens pouring over the border every single year.

Dump those people into any other state of similar population to Texas and see what happens to that state's "social measures."

Threadkiller

Does it look better, worse, or the same as a bullet that "penetrated the skin and soft tissues of the left lower back, and then passed forward, rightward and upward to penetrate the spinal column and cord at the level of L2," ...The bullet continued on to perforate the aorta, mesentery, small intestines, distal stomach, and left lobe of the liver before causing subcutaneous hemorrhage of the anterior midline abdominal wall, 22 inches from the top of the head."?

narciso

Because the Justice Department, SorosCorp, the Justice Bros, (sharpton, jackson) are steppping
all over the evidence like Godzilla does to Bambi

they discovered the tape and suppressed it, they fed a lie to New Yorker, which created the hashrag narrative, we've seen this rodeo before,
they;ve added new players with Bosman and Blinder,

Threadkiller

I didn't want to say balls-sack, Eric.

Porchlight

Also,the bullet that entered the top of the vics head indicates that he was bent all the way over when the white police officer thought it would be a goo idea to blow his brains out.

Dumbass, in real life, multiple shots are fired very quickly one after the other in a matter of a few seconds. Brown appears to have been in the process of falling on his face/putting his hands up to protect himself while still charging/stumbling toward Wilson. All consistent with the forensic evidence and most eyewitness reports.

narciso

this is the Pallywood narrative imported, recall the Al Dura shooring, the incidents in Jabaliya
and Rafah, which did happen but not in the way related.

Threadkiller

their=there

centralcal

Porch - two NYC cops on news last night said 6 bullets would only take 3 seconds. You're most likely correct in your hypothesis.

Marlene

So,Officer Wilson hasn't been in hiding,more likely in the hospital where the doctors probably are trying to save his vision.

Rick B

Narciso,

Isn't Hoft just creating a counter narrative? "Two St. Louis sources" has a rather ephemeral resonance, as does "police sources". Having been apparently mislead by reports the police chief said the first shot was fatal, I'm rather unwilling to fully believe much beyond the video of the thug committing a strong arm robbery and the fact he's dead.

The release of the video was definitely a counter narrative move on the part of the locals but Hoft's breathless blather needs more confirmation than has been provided to date.

[Having said that, we should expect confirming X-rays within the hour based upon my previous reversals.]

Dublindave

"Brown appears to have been in the process of falling on his face/putting his hands up to protect himself while still charging/stumbling toward Wilson. All consistent with the forensic evidence and most eyewitness reports"


When you say "most" you really mean one,right? And when you say "one" you really mean.....some crack addict standing twenty feet away from a camera recording the scene inadvertently overheard bragging that he saw the whole thing,but who hasn't been seen or heard from or interviewed by anyone.


Hey you know what,I saw the whole thing too? Yessrrrrr,I saws it all and ima gonna take myself over to Fergusan POH-LEECE and ima tell ma story t'night!!!!!!

Danube on iPad

I simply cannot wait to hear how the usual suspects account for the officer's broken eye socket.

clarice

Holder removed the local Le in the Trayvon case and put his troops in to set the narrative--this time he succeeded only partially--He got in someone over the local chief but the cops are fighting back thru their contacts in the press and
releasing what Holder's stooges are hiding.

narciso

Well Rick, I observe patterns, and we've seen memory holing, attempted unpersonning, the truth is not a narrative, no matter what Oliver Stone
says.

Rick B

"I simply cannot wait to hear how the usual suspects account for the officer's broken eye socket."

It's obvious Officer Wilson head butted Halo Brown when he reached out of the car and jerked the tyke in through the window. It was the halo which caused the fracture.

Captain Hate

CSI Dumbass sounds like he's trashed as usual.

Since Carlos Slim has reluctantly come down on the side of Perry, have any GOPe stalwarts risked getting a smudge on their pristine togas by doing so?

Cecil Turner
Nancy, without question, there was some level of interaction, strong interaction, between the officer and Michael at the car.
Each version has some of that in it, so I'd take that as a given. And, obviously, Brown opened up some distance before the shooting. But Parks is right on one thing, it was the second interaction that killed him.

Simplest scenario covering all the facts: Brown muscles (punches/pushes/grapples, whatever) Wilson, decides to run . . . Wilson recovers enough to get out and yell "halt"; Brown turns and rushes Wilson, gets shot.

Baden's claim of "no struggle" was particular to the second interaction. Nobody denies the first.

narciso

Well Stay Puft seems to have gotten a clue, Corbett who seems to be relishing the return to public life, isn'r so inspired

Our esteemed governor has gingerly realized that Scott Rothstein, our local Madoff wannabe was very
chummy with Charlie Cheetah

glasater

Speaking of Rick Perry...

Networks Ignore that Group Behind Perry’s Indictment Got $500K from Soros

Such a busy guy that Soros. Barely has time to muck around in the S&P.

Bori

Jimmy K,

The statement by Dr. Baden is not inconsistent at all. It is based on a statement by the family that said that the police had claimed that MB was shot and killed during a struggle.

Dr. Baden's conclusion was that he was shot at a distance of more than 2 feet, which he could not confirm because he did not have access to the clothing to test for gun residue. Reporters are the ones who are confused and mixing statements and their conclusions.

Extraneus

Since Carlos Slim has reluctantly come down on the side of Perry, have any GOPe stalwarts risked getting a smudge on their pristine togas by doing so?

The only reason the NYT has spoken against the indictment is that they've concluded that Perry will benefit from the whole thing. Otherwise they'd have been all for it.

You'd think the Republicans would have the same motivation.

Dublindave

"I simply cannot wait to hear how the usual suspects account for the officer's broken eye socket"

The trick is to hold the line on the narrative that yields the greatest political reward. If the officer is guilty it's yet more proof that whitey enjoys killing blacks and the only way to remedy that injustice is to vote for Democrats this fall. If the officer is innocent it's further proof that whitey enjoys killing blacks but covers his own ass and the only way to remedy that injustice is to vote for Democrats this fall.

Well move the goal posts to wherever they need to be moved,we'll spin conspiracies like you wouldn't believe and we'll do this to hold onto the United States Senate and you know what....we will.

Captain Hate

Right you are, narc:

Christie joined U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in issuing statements of support of Perry, even though he and the Texas governor haven't always been on the same page.

Kudos to Jeb Bush for his support. As head of the Republican Governors Association, Fat RINO Bastard was somewhat obligated to weigh in, to coin a phrase.

Rick B

Narciso,

I really want to see the actual threats made to local officials by the Federal Civil Racist Flying Lynch Squad. Are they based upon "impeding a Federal investigation" or is it simply "cuz AG My People sez"?

The locals need to show more spine in standing up to the Fed racist thugs. There is no reason whatsoever to allow Feds to interfere with the investigation of the shooting of a thug by a cop. Holder can just get his skinny ass back to DC and work on more coverups.

AliceH

Extraneus@12:31 --You'd think the Republicans would have the same motivation--

LOL!

Dublindave

"CSI Dumbass sounds like he's trashed as usual"

TRANSLATION: Dave is right,there is only ONE eyewitness report stating that Brown charged.Not several as Porchlight suggested. Porchlight is wrong but I can't point that out because he is my friend, so i'll attack Dave instead.

Some Guy

ahhhh...

Remember ya'll how DoubleD would do a driveby everyday with some new theory or alleged fact that would support the 'poor saint Trayvon' narrative, only to have it blow up a few days later.

What's that thing about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

narciso

I described all the players, involved here, add Carlos Slim's Shakespeare trained chimps, and AP

Extraneus

Redskins took the field with their hands up, folks, even after the forensic info proved that MB didn't have his hands up.

DD knows how the game is played. It ain't about facts.

Eric in Boise

I simply cannot wait to hear how the usual suspects account for the officer's broken eye socket

Wicked recoil. Those damned high-clip magazines will get you every time.

jimmyk on iPhone

Bori, Baden's statement still seems a bit misleading. First, I thought there was a struggle and a shot, plus a hand injury to MB, there was certainly a struggle, and the evidence is simply silent on whether it occurred at the time of the shooting.

Pagar

Why would any American ever vote for a Democrat?

narciso

Isn't that they played last season, sarc,

Cecil Turner

I think it's perfectly apt to question if Brown was targeted by the white police because he was attending college.

Wow. Talk about multiplying beyond necessity. But let's discuss.

The first story I read about Brown's college aspirations were all about music and sound engineering and his aspirations to being a rap star. But then, a couple days ago, it switched to "heating and air conditioning engineer"; neither of which seems to me to be much of a threat to whitey's dominance of the Ferguson social structure or a reason to "target" him. YMMV.

But wait, there's more . . . Vatterott College gave a rather uninformative statement when asked whether Brown was enrolled:

“Vatterott College has been part of the Ferguson community since the 1970s and we share in the community’s grief over this young man’s death and the circumstances surrounding it. As a matter of policy, we do not disclose the enrollment status of current students or those who may have plans to attend Vatterott College. Our thoughts and prayers remain with Michael Brown’s family and the Ferguson community during this difficult time.”
Seems to me it'd have been fairly easy and unremarkable to confirm his enrollment. Unless . . .

Marlene

Christie was in Maine recently and said the RGA will support Lepage with all the money it takes. Sen.Angus King (I) endorsed his friend Eliot Cutler, the independent running in the governor's race against Lepage and Michaud. Cutler split the vote last election and could do so again,in Lepage's favor. Michaud has brought in the Democrat activist groups and such luminaries as Debbie Wasserman Schultz and James Carville. Michaud has also sought advice from Barney Frank on how to run as an openly gay politician. He (Michaud) is pandering to the other Maine.

Captain Hate

TRANSLATION: Dave is right,there is only ONE eyewitness report stating that Brown charged.Not several as Porchlight suggested. Porchlight is wrong but I can't point that out because he is my friend, so i'll attack Dave instead no more credible on this than he was on Saint Traytable.

Stephanie accidentally OnT?

Caution... that x-ray at gateway pundit is, I believe, a sample x-ray of an orbital socket injury NOT the actual x-ray of the officer's particular injury. It has U of Iowa on it. I believe Hoft used it for illustrative purposes only. That is unless Iowa is where the officer is receiving treatment...

I advise caution in using that particular exhibit.

AliceH

Ferguson and similar suburbs are not exactly lacking in electing Democrats to office. Urging voters to elect democrats is essentially urging voters to keep the same people in power who have been in power for years.

Hope without change!

Rick B

What happens when the grand jury returns a justifiable homicide verdict based upon the testimony of twelve eyewitnesses and the ME reports (including the report on Officer Wilson's injuries)?

Does the Fed Flying Lynch Squad go home or do they persist in fanning the dump fire?

Extraneus

Unless . . .

...they're white racists, hell-bent on keeping the black man down. Tell him, DublinDave.

Captain Hate

fixed?

Jack is Back

This is deja vu all over again with the return of DuDa and BuBu. Must be nervous times in Progland. The bosses must not like the poll numbers of the full criminal enterprise operation in Mizzou, St. Louis County, Ferguson and the USA.

We went through this whole poltical masturbation with these clowns during St. Skittles Adoration. In the proble this time there are witnesses and if they are impeachable then Holder and his State equivalent will have their chance. But I have a feeling this is going to whimper out the more details emerge that 1) MB was stoned, 2) a known thug, 3) resisted arrest or Q&A, 4) battered a police officer and 5) committed suicide by cop.

I'll even go so far as to speculate the NYT's leads the way in abandoning Ferguson for "good news" - which is what they are probably looking for right now.

henry

Barnes Hospital in St Louis has excellent eye surgeons, can't imagine why he would go elsewhere (except death threats). I'm sure the sample image was to show what an orbital socket injury is (ie not something astronauts experience while in orbit).

Threadkiller
ISIS is all over the Ferguson protests on Twitter, encouraging jihadists to head on over and do some recruiting. And it seems like the message has gotten through, as a t-shirt spray painted with “ISIS Here” was flashed on CNN Monday
.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-isis-in-ferguson-video/

windansea

fun idea for MSNBC and CNN pundits

give pundit a paintball gun, put 300 lb 18 yr old 35 feet away, pundit has a patch over one eye to simulate blown eye socket

instruct 300 lb 18 yr old to charge

PS commenter Jello333 at the Treehouse

I think all the wounds other than the two to the head came first, as Brown was charging. I do NOT really think he had his head down in a charging elephant kind of position… I think he was just running full speed toward the cop, in a more or less upright position, as the cop was firing.

But finally one of the bullets struck a vital spot, which caused the (conscious) charge to end. That is the bullet that hit him in the eye. At that point Brown DID begin to fall forward, and the last bullet hit him in the top of the head. I believe all the shots were fired within a matter of maybe 3 or 4 seconds…. and those FINAL 2 shots were both fired within a fraction of a second of each other.

No, the very last shot was NOT necessary to stop the threat. HOWEVER, unless I’m mistaken, this cop doesn’t have super-human reflexes, so it was impossible for him to that quickly react to the fact that the next to the last shot had got Brown in the head (and so ended the threat). No human could be expected to do that if, as I say, the final two shots were separated by a max of half a second.

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