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May 17, 2015

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henry

The blob will be elected if the MSM has anything to do with it.

Threadkiller

But we do know what the media has been honest about.

Jeff Dobbs

it is going to be a long, painful campaign.

Right up there with death and taxes.

Joan

It's already been a long, painful campaign. :)

matt

The lap dog media has become the lap dance media.

Miss Marple

I still say we need to see what OTHER charities he gave $75,000 to.

GS made a big deal about wanting to support combatting AIDS and deforestation. Has he given $75,000 to any other charities which support this type of work? Any other charities at all?

Because if he didn't give this amount to anyone else, his protests mean zilch and it was all about getting access.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--The slip by Mr. Stephanopoulos....--

Oops!
This is why the press is so unpopular; because they're such hard bitten and cynical sharks when one of their own is caught with his hand in the ethical cookie jar.

Beasts of England

lol, matt!!

Did anyone suspect that 2016 would be anything other than the most mendacious media display evah? Certainly no one here at JOM.

Just one tiny example: how many days since Cankles has taken questions from the media?

Beasts of England

It's mystifying, Ig! Mystifying! Not a breach of ethics or proof of bias...

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Excellent pieces clarice; however may I suggest next time you're on the ceiling over a bunch of media types you take the form of either a bull or an elephant or maybe a bull elephant so the more oblivious ones will be aware of the message you leave them. : )

Man Tran

I found this within a post someone linked here yesterday:

Data from the National Association of Railroad Passengers shows the number of passengers that get on or off the train in any given congressional district, and reveals an obvious reason why Republicans might not be too concerned about funding the system…. There are 184 congressional districts in which not one person got on or off a train in 2014…. Of those 184 districts, 116 are currently represented by Republicans. On average, ridership in Republican districts was about 41,000 in 2014—compared to 261,000 in Democratic districts.
Miss Marple

Man Tran,

I bet they could pick up riders if they re-instituted the smoking cars. LOL!

clarice

A decent choir boy who just happened to attend a bash (with Couric and rose) at Jeffrey Epstein's apt two weks after the pedophile was convicted. We have different ideas about choir boys and decency than the media does, apparently.

jimmyk

So we are told Rs are not concerned about funding Amtrak, yet at the same time are responsible for forcing them to run unprofitable routes. Yet (to repost from the last thread), it turns out the latter is historically false:

About 5 minutes of research shows the Kirsten and Juan are full of it (big surprise).

http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/transportation/privatizing-amtrak

Right from the beginning, members of Congress have been burdening Amtrak with money-losing routes. In mapping out Amtrak's first routes in 1971, Montana's senators ensured inclusion of a sparsely-populated route in their state, Indianapolis received three routes but Cleveland none because of the political pull of Indiana senators, and West Virginia grabbed an extra route courtesy of one of its senators.

Montana had two D senators in 1971 (Metcalf and Mansfield). I presume the WV senator referred to is Byrd, but in any case WV had two D senators in 1971 as well, as did Indiana.

clarice

Iggy....

jimmyk

The lap dog media has become the lap dance media.

Can't help myself, sorry:

Man Tran

After reading Clarice's usual wonderful Sunday morning gift, I ran across the LUN. Sifting out the mutations...

jimmyk

And here's another useful fact about Amtrak:

Amtrak’s largest expense is labor, salary, and benefits, which cost over $2 billion in 2014. Maintaining fully-staffed trains on infrequently-traveled routes has contributed to high labor costs, but the pay rate of Amtrak’s employees raise its costs substantially. The average onboard employee made $41.19 an hour on Amtrak in 2012, while railroads that contracted out services to private companies paid their employees $7.75 to $13.00 an hour.

http://www.economics21.org/commentary/PRRIA-2015-amtrak-reform-subsidies-privatization-2015-03-06

Yeah, they're underfunded.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

The GOP might be slightly less inclined to dine at the Amtrak trough but the fact is fill a trough and pigs of every persuasion avail themselves.
Liberals being useless in every conceivable way invariably come up with some good government oxymoronic solution which always involves building and filling a bigger trough to eliminate waste and fraud.
The GOP vows, falsely, to build a trough halfway between the old and new and only eat its fill.
Meanwhile people who suggest it might be a good idea for the trough to be dismantled and the pigs turned into productive citizens or bacon are dismissed as cranks.

Beasts of England

I thought my 11:46 post had just been contradicted by one of the morning shows, but not to worry. While they addressed her lack of media interaction, they did so in a manner of advice. She needs to do this, she should be aware of that. Ugh.

Not to be outdone, the host tried to mitigate the difference in media questions taken between Slick and Pantsuit since her announcement: 39:9. The host said that they have agreed that he would answer questions about their foundation.

Got it? It's not up to the press or the people to decide if she'll answer slush fund questions - Bill and Hil have already decided! The topic has been declared invisible for the queen.

But don't say bossy, or pushy, or entitled, or...

Jack is Lightnings!

jimmyk,

Network Rail in the UK is going on strike the 25th. Havoc to ensue since it is a bank holiday. They have over 100 union employees - signal workers, rail maintainers, etc.) who make over £100K per year. Some more than £150K per year. Network Rail is the nationaized successor to the private Railtrack that couldn't maintain their privatized concession. The passenger service operators are all private with regulated fareboxes much like utilities and their repective PSC's.

At Amtrak, they have a captive food and beverage market on their trains yet lose over $400 million a year. I'd start with the whole shebang top to bottom and work the waste out but you can't. The unions! Almost impossible to increase labor efficiency and productivity under those kind of archaic work rules, CBA's and mismanagement.

Captain Hate

Got it? It's not up to the press or the people to decide if she'll answer slush fund questions - Bill and Hil have already decided! The topic has been declared invisible for the queen.

The MFM is really lashing themselves to the mast of the HMS Pantsuit despite sooper campaigner Slick never being able to get over on half of the electorate to believe he's anything other than lying trash. Or worse.

Skoot

I've been wondering how many Amtrak tickets between NY and Washington are purchased on official Fed gov't travel orders. I bet a lot. If you add state, city and personal travel of all gov't employees I bet the whole thing looks like a feedback circuit of waste and graft.

matt

The Indian Princess apparently wowed all of the 1%ers in my neck of the woods yesterday.

There's nothing bettah than raking in the cash at a $20 million Emerald Bay estate overlooking a private beach among the plutocrats on a sunny Saturday evening.

And Loretta Sanchez, who used to flirt with me, seems to have hurt Kamala Harris' feelings. They're both a pair of phonies.

glasater

For the CA JOM contingent who will the Rs support to counter Kamala?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Almost undoubtedly doesn't matter, glasater.

jimmyk

You should run, iggy.

Ben

George did his obligatory mea culpa on TW but it was drowned out by Cruz/Jeb running away from Iraq.

If only they had known....lol.

jimmyk

I guess my last comment rendered everyone speechless.

East Bay Jay

Hilarious Reliable Sources this morning. That show stunk with Kurtz but it's worse now. Remarkably they entirely skipped over ABC 'stealing' Washington Free Beacon's scoop and giving it to Politico. They did have time for Joe Wilson, yup that guy, who said something that I couldn't understand at 3x fast forward. And time to ask the Clinton Cash author if the 8 corrections coming in the next addition discredits the book. Really.

maryrose

Come on Fox News Get in Hillarys face about the Foundation
Force her to answer
In a recent shot it looked like she was actually running away from the mediay

Miss Marple

Fox won't get in her face. Murdoch gave $1 million to that foundation, maryrose.

Miss Marple

OK, let's say Bush had NOT gone into Iraq. What would the dems have said?

Bush ignored intelligence from CIA and UK and France and Germany! Head in the sand! Coward!

Bush doesn't care about the atrocities! Heartless! Supports killing women and children!

Bush is coddling a dictator! Oil buddies!


I hate these people. I also will not vote for anyone who dodges the real question, which is the democrats went to war with the US military and the Republicans (especially Bush), rather than Iraq. They are unpatriotic and think nothing of losing a war to advance their agenda.

Any Republican who avoids this issue is a coward.

maryrose

She can't hide clever in this stealth campaign
When I compare this poor excuse for getting people to vote for her to 2008
She appears lackluster and tired
The real weasel behind her throne is Cheryl Mills
We need to get her on perjury and then flip her to rat out the Clintons Shes lied for them before but this time we have to nail her
There's a best seller in this and possibly immunity if the Benghazi committee likes what it hears from her

maryrose

MM
Coulda woulda shoulda
This question is a waste of time
I want to know what each candidate wants to do about ISIS now

clarice

MM, get outta my head, girl!

MarkO

Unless the GOP apparatchiks use this glaring admission, the MSM will gloss over it. There must be boycotts. There must be sessions in which this matter is raised by the interviewee. Not just when GS is present but everywhere on ABC.

On the other networks, the inquisitor must be asked about similar donations.

The GOP "establishment" is stupid, but is it that stupid? This is a golden opportunity to show bias, repeatedly show bias.

clarice

Some argue, that until this scandal it would ave seemed petulant, if not paranoid for the Republicans to raise this. Now it isn't. It's time to pressure the RNC and the candidates to refuse to play this charade any longer.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--You should run, iggy.--

Believe me, jimmy, I know what's best for this state. Unfortunately the Hulagu Khan Party hasn't qualified for the ballot in CA...yet.

clarice

MM, I repeated your post on FB where it is today's big winner.

MarkO

Right on, Clarice.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--The GOP "establishment" is stupid, but is it that stupid?--

Jeremiah 13:23.

Miss Marple

Thank you, clarice.

I am fed up. It is ridiculous to me that I can figure out a better strategy and retort than any of these lame brains who get on TV and are so damn afraid to say anything.

If we are going to lose anyway because of fraud and the stupid electorate, then at least go down fighting!

I would spend more time on this except that I am trying to get my shipping done for tomorrow. I overslept this morning so I have to go to the dreaded "teen mass" at 6PM, which does not put me in a worshipful mood, since the readings will be done by teens who do not speak up and the music is heavy on drums and guitars.

Grumble.

clarice

XOXO,MM

Jack is Lightnings!

MM,

Frederick is serving Spanish Mass at 5pm today with his two Hispanic clasmates and best friends. We love it. Energetic, great music and singing. Everyone is smiling and happy. And contrary to universal opinion, they as a community are very conservative, family oriented, pro-life and spiritual. Its our favorite mass.

Bongo drums and guitars are the 12pm mass:)

Miss Marple

(Stopping by to reply as I just printed another label.)

Jack, no one can accuse me of becoming Catholic because of the MUSIC. Either it's the guitars or the lame-o hymns which sound heavy on crunchy granola. We have good hymns in the hymnal, but do we ever sing them? No. It's always stuff from the 70's. Hardly ever do we get anything with a melody from Handel or Beethoven. And our organist, who is very talented, hardly ever plays the organ because SOMEONE TOLD HIM HE WAS SHOWING OFF. So he plays the piano.

Our Hispanic mass is at 1 in the afternoon but since it is totally in Spanish I don't go, as it would be like when I sat through the Christmas Mass in Rome. I couldn't respond to anything and just stood up when everyone else did and went up for the Eucharist after the old lady next to me got up.

Back to work.

anonamom

MM, I am quite sure no harm will come to your immortal soul if you don't go to a Mass that puts you in such a foul mood.

All these nifty rules our Church has--creations of extremely fallible men,
no matter how well intended. Go tomorrow morning instead.
That spirit of law, rather than the letter, thing.

And if I am wrong--we can hang out in hell together. ;-)

maryrose

There is a 530 Mass at St Angela's near me and we call it the deadbeat Mass because everyone who attends either had plans earlier in the day or was out too late Saturday night

maryrose

I don't believe in hell except for really bad people
I know you won't be sent there for missing Mass or eating meat on a Friday in Lent
I also believe our time on earth is a. Erosion of Purgatory
Anyone with a long illness is serving purgatory time

maryrose

Should be version but erosion also works

Miss Marple

Oh, don't anyone worry. I am mad at myself for oversleeping this morning.

I will be in a cheerful mood by the time I go, and maybe Father Francis, our Indian priest, will be the celebrant.

I follow the rules. Maybe it's why I get so mad at democrats, because they don't. LOL!

jorod

One Golden Clinton to rule them all!

Steve

CC Presidential Straw Poll - 2016

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2015/05/cc-presidential-straw-poll-2016.html

Captain Hate

The GOP "establishment" is stupid, but is it that stupid?

A challenge they never fail to surmount.

pagar

Want to see a reporter who doesn't have to cover for them reporting on the Clintons?

"Attkisson concludes her piece with a “A Medley of Missing Documents Through the Years,” running from 1988 through just last week. How many of these do you remember?

Missing: Hillary Clinton S&L Records
Missing: Clinton Counsel’s Foster Records
Missing: Clinton Counsel’s Foster Suicide Note
Missing: Hillary Clinton Law Firm Records
Missing: Bush Administration Energy Emails
Missing: Clinton Terrorism Documents
Missing: Bush Administration ‘Torture’ Documents
Missing: Millions of Bush Administration Emails
Lost and Found: Katrina Conference Call Transcript
Missing: Bush Administration’s Abramoff Emails
Missing: Bush Administration Political Emails
Missing: Bush Administration Interrogation Video
Withheld: Obama Administration ‘Fast and Furious’ Documents
Missing: Obama State Department Records
Missing: Obama Administration IRS Emails
Missing: Obama HealthCare.gov Records
Missing: Obama EPA Records
Missing: Hillary Clinton Benghazi Documents
Missing: Obama EPA Text Messages"

one more thing to remember about Clinton and missing e-mails. They are only missing from Americans; our enemies have them all because Clinton had them on her private service.

http://twitchy.com/2014/10/18/sharyl-attkisson-investigates-hillary-clintons-document-sifter-cheryl-mills/

jimmyk on iPhone

"Coulda woulda shoulda
This question is a waste of time"

True, but even so, if the MSM wants to play that game, the right answer is that if we knew then what we know now, we certainly should have gone in, because we could have avoided the mistakes that prolonged the war. Knowing the future is a huge advantage in war (and in many other activities).

That's in addition of course to knowing not to abandon the place to ISIS and wasting the victory that we'd achieved.

narciso

evening all, great pieces, Clarice, I was pointing out how Judith Miller's memoir is an enlightening and simultaneously infuriating exercise, and Kurtz played a part in setting the narrative for it, using the word of one disgruntled member of a Army WMD Search group, to defame the whole effort, publishing the email exchange between Miller and Burns, and casting in negative lights, Bill Keller of Carlos Slims, most recently attached to another Soros corp exercise, also comes off very badly,

narciso

so clearly I regard Kurtz as enemy action, Miller's review of the evidence of the run up to war, would properly have forced the resignation of most of Carlos Slim's newsroom, including the insufferable Chris Hedges now at TruthDig, it leaves many open questions, as to the verdict of no viable WMD program,

my anger with the Dauphin, I've downgraded him, is how he refused to make an argument for a long drawn out endeavor, which did succeed for a time,

Extraneus

Excellent, substantive comments by squaredance in the previous thread!

And I thank the Captain for the morning show report.

As for the "If you knew what you know today" question about Iraq, has one of these candidates responded with "If I knew how badly Obama would f*k it up, no, I wouldn't have put the innocent Iraqis or our brave servicemen through that."

Anyone who couldn't think of that simple response, even extemporaneously, was off his game. Jeb couldn't come close after multiple tries over several excruciating days. Apparently, he doesn't even have a game to be off of.

pagar

Sounds the Waco shooters are a lot more accurate.

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Waco-Shooting-Near-Twin-Peaks-In-Waco-304043711.html

"What will the warmest forecasted weekend of the year bring us? Likely a lot of really stupid people doing a lot of really stupid shit.

Stupidity Tally as of 12:00p: 1 killed, 38 wounded"
Chicago Report from: http://heyjackass.com/

Captain Hate

As for the "If you knew what you know today" question about Iraq, has one of these candidates responded with "If I knew how badly Obama would f*k it up, no, I wouldn't have put the innocent Iraqis or our brave servicemen through that."

I keep waiting for that response instead of everybody, including Rubio, mincing around it like a bunch of mewling quims.

Extraneus

It was a rare and golden opportunity, Captain. I'd have recommended a riff on "We're leaving a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq," just to piss them off even more.

Beasts of England

Nine dead in Waco? Is that the largest death toll from biker gang dispute?

maryrose

Jimmyk
I believe sometimes that I am the only one who thinks that regardless of the Syrian bound WMD s we should have taken out Saddam and tried to bring democracy to Iraq
By putting Obama in charge we let a doofus squander our accomplishments
Last I looked Afghanistan was a mess too
As long as we play the Dems game of rewriting history and blaming Bush is another we don't zero in on every single FUNAR of Hussein Obama
This next election should t even be close
Hussein is lucky he and his anti American wife haven't been run out of town on a rail or tar and feathered

narciso

nice Loki reference there, Captain,

http://www.weaselzippers.us/223844-dem-congresswoman-caught-making-questionable-comment-about-native-americans-claims-targeted-by-other-dems/

there's a thin line,. ..ah forget it,

re Abu Sayyaf, he seems to be as substantial as Harvey the invisible rabbit, first it's a kunya or battle name, one assumes he is Tunisians, who were among the nastiest sort of fighters in Iraq, the one who ordered the death of Tucker and Mechaca, was a Tunisian,

Extraneus

Instead, they had all of the Republicans on the run, "forcing" them to renounce Bush.

Even Obama could have handled that if the tables were turned.

narciso

the problem was not Saddam, as we now know, the core of ISIS are Sunni Baathists, the ones who killed Kurds and Shia for sport, not unlike the Klan who were ex Confederates, including fmr Quantrill Raiders, and did the same to blacks, and sympathetic whites during reconstruction,

maryrose

If a Republican had screwed up Benghazi like Hil did we at this point would be at the sentencing stage of a trial for negligence and failure to perform duties taken under oath
She will not skate on this or her Foundation gritting and lies

DrJ

I checked in on a tech-weenie site today, and I learned that the media are controlled by Republicans. Who knew? :)

And these sorts vote.

narciso

if Abu Sayyaf, who is named after the Saudi educated Afghan warlord, who sponsored the majority of foreign fighter during the Afghan War, were such a big deal, we wouldn't be pointing out the information we recovered, or his associates, we would blast the place to bits, and let the Jayvee's figure out what went wrong,

maryrose

Narciso
We need more blasting the place to bits
Also we need someone to take Kim Yung Il

Captain Hate

I checked in on a tech-weenie site today, and I learned that the media are controlled by Republicans. Who knew?

Dumb techies are the absolute worst.

narciso

Deir er Zour, is not such a surprising target, in fact it's the closest proximate location to Iraqi
bases, if the operation had happened in Aleppo or
even in Raqqua, that would have been a surprise,

rse

CH-many have no idea why the world cannot work like a well-designed system.

Captain Hate

It will be hard to escape the camps with them in charge.

Extraneus

What about his wife, narc? I read that "we" captured her and CNN was saying she was a big-shot terrorist.

And speaking of Muslims, I've been reading Tolstoy's short stories and am currently on Hadji Murad.

It's interesting to read how hard the Russians had it with them, and how similar so much of it seems to today. Fierce warriors with multiple wives in their tent-camps. Chechens. Imams. Let me get the book and quote the translation.

Imam: The leader in the Holy War, uniting in himself supreme spiritual and temporal power.

Somewhere around 1850 or so, but the translation was from 2001.

narciso

btw, Gus, Boykin is no weenie, he was in the Iran hostage rescue attempt, Colombia, Somalia, and everywhere in between, but it wasn't till he was revealed to be a committed Christian, that he ran into trouble,

narciso

maybe, Ext, the Russians have been fighting in the Caucasus, off and on, since 1785, the first wave was in Catherine's day, almost a footnote in the Great Upheaval, the Cossacks, also lends context to the region, Grozny was established as a fortress under Yermelov, the terror to the Chechens,

Captain Hate

Ext, I just read that and yes, the disconnect from the Chechens and Rooskis didn't begin recently. Btw I read it after reading "A Constellation of Vital Phenomena" by Anthony Marra, which was strongly influenced by it, and I highly recommend it.

maryrosee

A good.book to read is the Haj
But don't be taken in by its slanted view of the Palestinians

Captain Hate

Lermontov's A Hero of Our Time was also set in the Caucasus.

maryrosee

I think the Putin thread is the shortest one ever

maryrosee

Hey Jeff
Who knew that starting a thread about you know what would finally put an end to the discussion

Jane

I checked in on a tech-weenie site today, and I learned that the media are controlled by Republicans. Who knew? :)

Oh I hear that daily!

jimmyk on iPad

"if Abu Sayyaf, who is named after the Saudi educated Afghan warlord, who sponsored the majority of foreign fighter during the Afghan War, were such a big deal, "

At some point Americans might notice that taking out these supposed "leaders" doesn't do a damn thing (other than allow the media to pretend that Obama is actually accomplishing something) because there are always six more ready to take their place. Meanwhile, I see that ISIS has taken control of Ramadi. Shockingly they didn't just lay down their weapons and convert to Judaism when they lost the great Sayaf.

Captain Hate

Incredible that the JV doesn't get deterred and morose when one of their crummy superstars is taken out. Maybe that's why they're the JV.

narciso

well Abu was still kicking around the time, of the last Afghan when he was Karzai's designated candidate, but the point still applies, btw Al Douri who was Saddam's number 2, is still pining for the fjords, and very much alive,

DrJ

Jane,

Oh I hear that daily!

Really? Is this believed? If so, all I can say is WOW.

Extraneus

Yes, Jimmy. The AP article I read about it claimed that since Sayyaf was the "oil and gas" guy, an "administration official" said that ISIS wouldn't be able to derive any revenue from oil or gas for a while.

Right.

Extraneus

Sharpton daughter suing NYC for $5M over severe sprained ankle

Extraneus
Dominique Sharpton, 28, says she was “severely injured, bruised and wounded” when she stumbled over uneven pavement at the corner of Broome Street and Broadway downtown last year, according to a lawsuit.
Jeff Dobbs

maryrose:
Who knew that starting a thread about you know what would finally put an end to the discussion

Well, remember I also put up a birther thread, and that topic has pretty much gone the way of the birds.

But unfortunately the reason for that is the lamentable fact that DoT has decided to exit for now.

I would gladly put up with birther shit to have him back.

pagar

Maryrose,
"Also we need someone to take Kim Yung Il"

Kerry is on that;

http://www.weaselzippers.us/223793-master-negotiator-kerry-iran-nuclear-deal-could-be-positive-for-north-korea-too/

If anyone believes that?

Beasts of England

Well, corporations own all the media and corporations are all owned by Republicans. If only a hippie commune would buy a major news outlet, then the left would stand a fair chance...

Extraneus
The Post does a good job of describing how the severely injured Sharpton offspring later went on several marches and was seen, “in high heels and fancy dresses and climbing a ladder to decorate a Christmas tree.”
Extraneus

Russian police detain activists at gay flashmob in Moscow

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian police detained 17 protesters on Sunday as they gathered in central Moscow to release colorful balloons into the air to mark the International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia, an organizer of the failed flashmob said.

Biphobia? Who the hell is afraid of bisexuals?

Jane

Really? Is this believed? If so, all I can say is WOW.

Every progressive on earth believes it. They also believe George Bush lost the Iraq war and caused the rise of Isis, and that whites are finally getting what they deserve, and that Baltimore is the fault of the republicans, and the Amtrak crash was because of too little funding, and that Paul Krugman is a God.

Oh and the whole Hillary think is a figment of the Koch Brothers. I could go on, but I won't.

jimmyk on iPad

Knowing how Mayor Bane handles these things (like the settlement with the Central Park rapists) my guess is he'll offer $2.5M to settle.

DrJ

corporations are all owned by Republicans.

I had no idea. The things one learns on the Internet!

Jack is Lightnings!

Our Orlando City MLS team is killing the defending champiions, LA Galaxy, all the way back to Hollywooe 4-0. Orlando is a frist year team.

This is like the Jags in their first year defeating whoever was the Super Bowl winner the year before 40 to 0. I don't know if Frank Lampard made the right decision to go to LA:)

The excuse: We had to fly East.

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