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October 18, 2015

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Dave (in MA)

How dare anyone question the journalistic standards of CBS. Just ask Sharyl Attkisson.

sbw

Zeroeth!?

sbw

Rats!

Beasts of England

We didn't expect the Times to be honest did we? These things happen! Hyper competitive environment, abusive dad. Did I mention that these things happen?

henry

What's the frequency Kenneth?

Beasts of England

Does the film mention that their source made a copy of the document and then burned the original? I'm sure that was mildly important in gauging its veracity.

buccaneer morgan

No why interrupt the narrative, like I said the director was uncreative with the material in the past As an adapter of graphic novels,

buccaneer morgan

Killing the messenger by contrast included those flashbacks to events that there is no Perot they happened. A supposed threat by a Langley operative inside the very confefence where Webb was meeting.

jimmyk

Does the film mention that their source made a copy of the document and then burned the original?

Am I remembering correctly that the source made a copy of a copy of a copy, so that what was supplied to CBS was somehow thought to look older and was less obviously produced on MS Word?

buccaneer morgan

So had a cia hit team hunted Burkett team, and mapled escaped with a secret data stick, that she tranfers to rather before she succumbs from the injuries.

Beasts of England

I think you're right, jimmyk. That's what bothers me - nothing said by their source should have ever had the first drop of credibility once they saw the copied memo. Fake but accurate was the point of departure for the new left. The truth became a serving suggestion, like on a can of peas.

Captain Hate on the iPad

Does Jarles Chonson have a cameo in this? Or has he renounced his role?

Joan

I like Redford's movie where he gets kidnapped by a disgruntled former employee, marched through the hills and woods, toyed with by the kidnapped letting him think he's going to be saved, and then is shot and killed a whole lot better than The Truth.

Why doesn't that wrinkled old man just stay in Sundance and not come out. Ever.

Joan

Oh, lol, Captain Hate.

I never could understand how Johnson could turn 180 degrees into such a leftist when he didn't even believe the documents were genuine. I've never seen such a flip. His site is impossible to read now.

Beasts of England

You mean you haven't been banned from LGF, Joan? C'mon - join the club! ;)

Miss Marple 2

Even Vox didn't like the movie! When those cretins don't find it believable, you know the New York Times has gone full nutter!

Captain Hate on the iPad

Joan, my hypothesis was that bike boy was getting frozen out of crummy smooth jazz gigs by his fellow dipshit musicians, a probable gaggle of political retards, unless he renounced his apostasy. Which, like a fat ignorant turd lacking in core beliefs, he rapidly complied.

The site got so horrendous I never wasted enough time to get banned, unless I was part of a mass purge in absentia.

Miss Marple 2

Captain Hate,

Much the same thing that happened to David Brock, although one can substitute "hot dates" for "smooth jazz gigs."

Jack is Back!

Wasn't the problem with the whole thing that W ddin't need a political introduction to the Texas ANG since they were at the time begging for members due to unpopularity of the war among college age men? Then if memory serves me correct, he had over-achieved attendeance before he was excused to take his job out-of-state.

Beside the memo being a time-fraud, the essence of it was untrue.

Beasts of England

Especially for the jet he was qualifying in, JiB.

jimmyk

This is particularly remarkable:

Just as there are conspiracy theorists who will never be satisfied with the Warren Commission report on the Kennedy assassination, there are some who passionately believe that Mr. Rather and his producer Mary Mapes (Cate Blanchett) conspired to tarnish George W. Bush’s reputation.

This in reference to a movie that apparently promotes a wacky conspiracy theory that CBS execs sought to curry favor with conservatives??? I'm willing to believe that Mapes and Rather suffered from extreme confirmation bias, and simply failed to scrutinize "evidence" that supported their agenda. But surely the likelihood that they knowingly went along with the hoax is much greater than CBS kowtowing to conservatives.

Dave (in MA)

CH@03:43 PM, I figured he fell off his bike and conked his head.

Beasts of England

Overtime in Cleveland.

Dave (in MA)

Hugh Hewitt has a sad.

buccaneer morgan

Anyways I found my film idea more interesting, if you're going to dispense with toof, as manny Davis would say.

Jack is Back!

Snowing in Southampton. Wet but its high altitude snow that survives in our descending chill. And the sun is still out:)

Algonquin

jimmyk

You are being too generous to Mapes and Rather, read the post further where Mapes in "an agenda free way" (this is sarcasm of course) helps her source--Burkett--get in touch with the Kerry team's top people.

That's more than overlooking the documents, that's more than even bias, it's the usual media corruption of a press that is percentage wise more Democrat than San Francisco proper, and that has abandoned all appearances of maintaining ethical standards.

Algonquin

Speaking of randomization, CBS only seems to attack one side-- particularly around election time.


Mere mistakes would show a different pattern of distribution.

clarice

Not one word in that story was true. The memo was just one part of it.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2005/01/what_the_cbs_report_actually_a.html

Jack is Back!

CBS are pro's at writing friction. Remember one of their spawn is Ben Rhodes. Masters in Fiction. Libyan video was a best seller in DC.

Janet S.

I'd like to know how Redford made his latest crap film without fossil fuels.
They didn't use lights did they?...or better yet, ANY electricity.
Is he asking patrons to walk to see his film?...or ride a bike?
Hopefully the actors aren't flying around to promote the movie.
Hopefully there is no AC or heating in any of the theaters showing the film. We don't need THAT carbon footprint destroying our planet just for entertainment.

Robert Redford is one gigantic hypocrite.
His entire cushy life - from birth until the moment his wrinkly ass is sitting in some lousy Hollywood chair made by a machine run on fossil fuels...has been made possible because of fossil fuels.
His glasses, his shoes, his clothes, the hospital he was born in, the schools he went to, the carpets, the furniture, the buildings, the lights, the foods he ate all his lousy life, the transportation he used, AC, heat,...

and then it fans out from there. The people he encountered in his life ALSO were blessed by fossil fuels...the Dr. that delivered him, his eye doctor, his teachers, his friends, .... They all ALSO had lives of prosperity because of fossil fuels.

Algonquin

Here's an interesting link from Washington Monthly--hardly a conservative blogger. He felt that even worse than the supposed authenticity of the documents themselves was the providence of the documents.

https://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_01/005432.php

clarice

Remember, too, at the same time Simon & Shuster was publishing every crap lie book on Bush they could get their hands on and CBS was promoting those books on prime time shows.

henry

Proving left wing sanity never goes away, Kloppenburg is trying to get on the WI SC again. Good pic of her for your Halloween decorations.

clarice

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260492/muslim-refugees-berate-female-aid-workers-daniel-greenfield#.

Jane

I never could understand how Johnson could turn 180 degrees into such a leftist when he didn't even believe the documents were genuine.

I agree, Joan, that was beyond weird.

lyle

What is this "left wing sanity" you speak of, henry? Isn't that one of those oxeeMOrons?

henry

That was iOS changing what I typed. Good catch. "insanity"

Beasts of England

Philip Rivers' wife expecting their 8th child? I'm sure there's a quarterback joke in there somewhere...

Dave (in MA)

Maybe he should take the snap from shotgun more often?

henry

Protection breakdowns keep him from the super bowl as well.

DebinNC

Truth was made for a paltry $6M. For Redford, Blanchlett, et al, it was an unselfish act of love - the love of skewering the conservatives they so vehemently despise.

glasater

could understand how Johnson could turn 180 degrees into such a leftist

Ditto for David Corn, Joan.

glasater

I meant David Brock..

narciso

well we saw this with a lot of bloggers, in that era, the proprietor of Balloon Juice, was perhaps the next most extreme switch, followed by Outside the Beltway,

we have a real life that painted the Sahara red, which has compromised our national security secrets, in part for private political interests, and little seem to care about it, in the press,
this is of course, intentional,

narciso

Stacy Keach, the original MacBird, of the 60s outrage theatre, is in this, so apparently is the late Admiral Pike, Bruce Greenwood,

Beasts of England

Hopefully after seven kids, Mrs. Rivers will at least be able to manage a bit of a spiral when she delivers the eighth.

Was that bad?

narciso

all that needs to be said, on another matter,

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2015/10/18/the-syrian-offensive/

squaredance

Well, folks like Johnson were most liley plants on the first place. That is feature of propaganda campaigns, infiltration and "entryism". Never forget, you are dealing with pros here.

squaredance

Interesting.

Extraneus

Maybe he should take the snap from shotgun more often?

lol

(Had to spell it out for my wife.)

lyle

Better than a personal foul, Beasts

narciso

it's been a long strange fifteen years:

https://stream.org/carson-communications-director-gave-big-bucks-democrats/

intellectual conservative was one of the first such boards that I engaged in, that showed the craziness

lyle

That's not so interesting as it's utterly predictable, squaredance. It's also utterly predictable which political party runs the entire apparatus of all government, whether it's fed, state, or city with some but few exceptions. It's also worth pointing out that all levels of the gubmint are the largest employers of minorities which are in turn unionized. Try dismantling that leviathan.

lyle

A republic if you can keep it indeed...

narciso

the obvious questions are often not raised,


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/18/why-was-hillary-clinton-transferring-secret-historical-state-department-documents-to-her-private-server/#comments

narciso

why would those files, be among the included, put it another way, how did Manning not felch them first,

Janet S.

This is interesting - " The rumor that Hungary had used the chaos to empty out their prisons, is persistent."

https://vladtepesblog.com/2015/10/13/bordertown-nickelsdorf-drowns-in-garbage-and-feces/

Who would know?...

The world over, politicians have sold out their own citizens. It is unbelievable.

Like this here -
Governor Says Residents Questioning Refugee Settlement Should Leave His State
Tells taxpayers they should "find another state" to live in if they don't like refugees.

https://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/10/15/governor-says-residents-questioning-refugee-settlement-should-leave-his-state/

narciso

so they say, but until they confirm he's norwegian blue, on the other side,

https://www.weaselzippers.us/237175-pentagon-confirms-it-has-sent-senior-al-qaeda-official-to-hell-via-airstrike/

Beasts of England

Which is why some leftards say that reducing the size and scope of our federal gubmint is rayciss, lyle. Geez.

Beasts of England

Go Tom Brady's balls!

Beasts of England

And go Carrie Underwood's sequined dress!!

Dave (in MA)

Oh, is that who that is?

Beasts of England

It is, indeed.

lyle

Same here, Dave. I never knew who that gal (if you'll pardon my redneckism) was. By the way, who is she? ;)

lyle

That is to say, how is she famous? I mean, other than the babaliciousness? I'm outta touch these days with who's the latest cheesecake.

The Infamous Ignatz

That Wretchard column is of course a must read.
The thing that struck me after reading it is the inevitable conclusion that to win, at some point we will be required, just as we were in WWII, to fight as the enemy fights.
There is nothing mysterious about muslims. they like all fanatics have to be killed to be defeated.
Not selectively by some hapless drones slinging the occasional missile here and there, nor by an air war delivering shock and awe, nor by an armored force of moderate size occupying territory.

Barry is partly right that we are fighting an idea. He is utterly wrong in how to defeat it but he at least seems to consider it something of a danger. It is and it is an existential one despite its lack of military might.
To defeat it we will have to mount a massive mobilization to invade, conquer and destroy several national regimes and we will have to hunt down and kill many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of our enemies.
Anything less will constitute a stalemate which most likely favors the muslims, despite Spengler's fanciful idea they are about to crash and burn within their own footprint, of their own volition, in a few years.

It's simple; if we aren't willing to kill and destroy them and keep them out of our nations in at least as thorough a fashion as they desire to kill us, we will lose.

narciso

she's a country star of some note,

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3278441/Revealed-British-son-Indiana-Jones-movie-director-al-Qaeda-jihadi-poster-boy-bent-terror.html

kids today, with their phases of behavior,

narciso

well surely, Kadyrov, who is Volodya's man in Chechnya, is a ruthless sort, probably tied to at least three prominent dissident killings,

Beasts of England

She won American Idol in 2005 and can really belt it out. Not a big country fan, but she's got the (vocal) goods.

Jack is Back!

Hell, I can understand it and it all starts at the family.

lyle

I agree with Ig's trenchant analysis. Again. Zero doesn't WANT to defeat the jihadis. He's simpatico. Heavy on the simp.

narciso

nothing to see here,

https://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/18/us-swiss-election-idUSKCN0SC0ZI20151018

lyle

Funny, I've never heard her open the Hilligula network's show (a lot of competition for that) because I'm always listening to classical music while watching the game. Or jazz. I never listen to Al and whathisface. No need. I used to like some C&W but not anymore. Blech.

Beasts of England

We should start by nuking that stupid meteorite out in the fucking desert. During the hajj.

Dave (in MA)

Or take it hostage.

Beasts of England

Even better, Dave! That would be hilarious.

clarice

https://www.israelvideonetwork.com/what-is-your-israel-iq-watch-these-answers-on-the-ucla-campus-and-youll-be-floored-by-the-cluelessness/


This is what we are dealing with==the chocking ignorance of college students

Beasts of England

Is Brady wearing slippers?

Jack is Back!

Europe trying too late to save themselves. Who knows it may work but my money are on the invaders from everthing I see, read and hear from the in-laws. Not posotive. No one has a savior only a complaint.

The Brady Thread.

Seven-Up!

Beasts of England

It's too cold outside for a Klondike Bar™. Think I'll have a couple of Pumpkin Spice Oreos™ and a big glass of moo juice. Mmmm.

Jack is Back!

It doesn't look like Tom's dad dream will come through. Pats will be lucky to just win.

I am going to bed. Slaap lekker. Tots morgen.

lyle

I'm having a glass of Patz & Hall Pinot waiting for my oven roasted chicken with rosemary bread dressing and braised Brussels sprouts. Pan gravy. Comfort food at it's best. Salud! Oh, and listening to Bruck violin concertos while watching Brady's balls vs the Colts.

Stephanie

Lucy, I'm back!

Didn't do well in the first slot tourney but placed in the money in the second and again busted out in the third one. Love the three day slot tourneys!

It was 88 degrees in Gulfport on Friday and 77 on Saturday and 72 or so today. Got home and turned on the heat - it's 59. Brrrr.

Beasts, noticed you said you were back on FB and you have a friend request outstanding.

Beasts of England

Here's Ms. Underwood bringing the heat (and her Louisville Slugger) in one of her big hits.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WaSy8yy-mr8

Beasts of England

Thanks, Steph!!

narciso

this is what I was referring to yesterday,

https://linkis.com/www.telegraph.co.uk/7ECNS

narciso

so in that memo, that pops now, there are at least two redacted blocs, I'm distrustful of all documents that purport to describe one state of mind,

narciso


the Daily Mail is unfortunately prone to these squirrels,

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/10/has-hillarys-last-defense-been-destroyed-by-a-smoking-gun.php?utm_

Captain Hate on the iPad

If any of you are ever in the Rehomoboth area, visiting David Brock maybe, you should amble over to Milton and take a tour of the Dogfish Head brewery. Our group had a former theater major doing a very entertaining and informative narration; much more engaging than a prior tour that my former roomie had taken.

Beasts of England

Rosemary bread dressing? Sounds wicked-good - recipe, please!

Dave (in MA)

I follow pop country about as much as I follow golf.

Beasts of England

lol, Dave!!

lyle

We buy this rosemary bread in SV. Cubed it with roasted garlic, onions, mushies, toasted almonds, Parmesan and baked with butter and chicken stock. Lots o' dill. The house smells... Comforting.

Stephanie

BTW filled up the car in Gulfport this morning for $1.80 a gallon.

daddy

Good Morning! OT.

On this 2 week trip we do 4 layovers in Japan, so for the last 2 days I've been walking 'Inop', the Jet Lag Lounge's famous bar dog,
drinking beer with the usual suspects, and enjoying heaping bowls of chili pepper noodles and gyoza at Ramen Bayoshi, the best noodle shop in Japan.

TV is relatively terrible. No football, but at least I've been able to pick up the Mets/Cubs games.

Guy I'm flying with majored in Japanese History in college, then taught English in Sapporo, and wound up marrying one of his students, so he is excellent to have as a drinking buddy, as he teaches me bits and pieces of the language. Knowing we were going to be in Japan 4 times, and knowing I had him as my beer swilling professor, I am reading The Tale of Murasaki, an excellent fictionalized history of the woman 1,000 years ago who wrote the famous 3000 page Japanese novel "Tale Of Genji." I'm really enjoying it, as it gives you slices of what the cultural norms were in Kyoto back in the year 1,000 AD, and it's been a great conversation starter for me with the very pretty Jet Lag BarMaids, who are always interested in having an opportunity to laugh and chat about fun Japanese stuff from yesteryear. All of them were exposed to The Tale Of Genji and the author, Lady Murasaki , back in High School (since she is their equivalent of Shakespeare and Jane Austen all rolled up in one). And Genji is such a ribald, rakish sort that he fits in beautifully to interesting bar chat.

Last night the topic was this bit that I found fascinating---something called A Koshin Night.

Apparently there was this Daoist belief back then that inside each human resided 3 supernatural worms. The worms kept tabs on a persons sins, and every 60 days, on a Koshin night, when the person was sleeping, the worms would leave a persons body and travel to heaven and rat out the sins a person had committed. As a result of those sins, the gods would shorten the lifespan of the offending human. This led to the practice of everyone trying to stay awake every Koshin night, in order to prevent the worms from running to Heaven to rat you out:) What a cool and interesting concept, beautiful for partying and all sorts of other mischief, and of course excellent for bar chit-chat.

Anyhow, jabbering with pretty girls about such stuff is what I've been up to the last few days. Excellent Pieces Clarice.

Cheerio.

Jeff Dobbs

CH:
If any of you are ever in the Rehomoboth area

This week we'll get fairly close - but down south closer to Chincoteague.

RV TRIP!!!

clarice

I loved Tale of Murasaki.

Thanks, daddy.

Jeff Dobbs

I thought Murasaki was the person daddy ran against as a fellow write-in candidate in the 2010 Alaska Senate race?

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