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December 07, 2015

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Very droll.

Hmmm, an arbitrary, and capricious list is more likely than 'natural born' to capture allegiance?

Bombs away.

Heh, Joe Kennedy on a no-fly list.

Old Lurker

Since the No Fly List has no judicial underpinning, what would prevent them from placing us all on it then creating an application process for them and their kind to get off it?

Poof.

Sayonara.

Incoming.

Captain Hate on the iPad

Running roughshod over the rights of the accused at every opportunity while releasing convicted criminals. Oh yes, we're a happy Manson family.

Thanks for confirming Loretta Lynch, Repukes. Take a bow for that act of perfidy.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Donald and Ivanka Trump's donations to Kamala Harris probable next CA Senator and slightly to the left of Huey Newton.
But he's evolved...since 2012-2014.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

I think every person including any journalists/newsmen on the no fly or terrorist watch lists should be denied access to a typewriter, word processor or microphone.

As the prez says we've got to stop this radicalization and guns don't radicalize anyone, words do.

Bori

TM,

What I am curious about is if they are referring to the broader Selective Screening list of which, the No-Fly list is a sub-set. That list is 40 to 50 thousand names on it.

Regardless, the list is flawed. I remember that many military personnel were on the Selective Screening and even the No-Flight list because they had traveled to the Middle East where they were serving.

Rick Ballard

Ignatz,

Are you suggesting the buffoon is actually a charlatan? His jabber and blather just a huckster's pose?

That's very cruel - think of the feelings of all those who have already bought Certificates of Egress.

glasater

On Stuart Varney right now its being reported that donors to certain non-profits will require SS numbers.

clarice

It's just a new way to get the courts to consider challenges from people on that list I suppose.

Threadkiller

Where is gets a little sticky is that Fiorina, ousted in 2005 as Hewlett-Packard’s chief executive officer, has contributed $25,000 to Hewlett-Packard’s PAC over the years. The Hewlett-Packard PAC, in turn, has consistently donated significant sums of money to Democratic candidates — including $15,000 to Boxer this decade, $5,000 of which came during Fiorina’s tenure.

Bottom line? The Hewlett-Packard PAC funneled between 39.1 percent and 45.4 percent of its federal political donations to Democratic candidates during the election cycles in which Fiorina led Hewlett-Packard, CRP’s analysis indicates.

In 2000, Fiorina also donated $5,000 to the Technet PAC. That election cycle, Democratic candidates received more than 47 percent of the Technet PAC’s more than $133,000 in political contributions.


http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/11/carly-fiorinas-political-donat/

Threadkiller

Maybe we should be looking into this list.

http://obamafailedeverify.blogspot.com/2013/01/obama-social-security-number-failed-everify.html?m=1

glasater

The IRS already has SS numbers on tax returns, how hard would it be to have to cross reference the names on donors lists with their own database if there was something questionable was going on.

Fun little figures, though.

Hmmm, TK, remarkably even-handed largesse, as if she determined the recipient.

Threadkiller

Trump should have had one of his company's do the donations, Kim.

One step removed would make him an opportunist at Fiorina's level.

He went big, though. This will certainly cost him support.

Cassandra

I'm so confused.

Won't the 3 bulleted measures on your White House slide disproportionately impact Oppressed People of Cholor? I mean, we're constantly being told that law enforcement is far more likely to suspect OPOC types than the far more deadly Murderous White Male.

Isn't any law enforcement practice that disproportionately impacts minorities - GASP! - just the same as profiling?

What do do... what to do???

JMHanes

The White House was in such a hurry to clean up Obama's visa waiver blooper, they completely forgot to include the K1 Visa that Malik actually used on the corrected bullet list.

What does "warzones" even mean? This is just embarrassing.

I hate to disappoint JiB, but how can you even begin to mock a White House which is updating counter-terrorism policy on Twitter?

daddy

There is a new plan that exists know as the "Known Crewmember" system, whereby domestically if I have the badge and am entered in the system (which I am) I am supposed to be allowed to just walk on through with my bags like as if it was pre-911 days.

Well just a bit ago I entered the SFO Terminal. I was wearing the "Known Crewmember" badge with all the info, and the first SFO Homeland Security Screener type recognized it properly and waived me through. Then I got to the 2nd SFO Homeland Security Screener type and he didn't know if I was qualified for the program. (I am).

So those 2 stopped everything and got together and started jabbering, and they couldn't agree on what the "Known Crewmember" badge allowed known crew members to do. (That's their job) So they decided to split the difference, by putting me back in the regular passenger screening line, but ushering me to the front of the line, thereby angering all sorts of regular folks as to why was I being escorted by 2 cops in front of everybody else.

Oh well...Overall point is simply that Government Incompetence continues rolling along.

Rick Ballard

JMH,

They know how to use Twitter. The other stuff is a little too complicated.

daddy

Here's a bit of info from the TSA's website on their "Known Crewmember" system: Known Crewmember program continues to expand with launch of landmark 50th facility

Tomorrow I'll be sending out my Passport to get a new India VISA, since my current India VISA is expiring. Usually it takes about 5 days to complete and a maximum of 15 Business days to get completed and returned, but I'm interested in seeing if with all this VISA and terrorism business world wide, if it'll take a while longer. If anything out of the ordinary happens in the process I'll let you know.

glasater

RB,

I'm betting you are watching what is going on in the oil market. As Mr Spock would say.."fascinating"..

matt

Harris is Jerry Brown Jr. A complete leftist tool with no ethical system.

She has grandstanded her way into political clebrity by running over the rights of Californians and even non- California companies and individuals. The alternative right now is Loretta Sanchez, who is all in on the Leftist agenda now.

Funnny that she campaigned in a generally conservative district which was then gerrymandered Dem.

These people have no shame.

matt

Harris is Jerry Brown Jr. A complete leftist tool with no ethical system.

She has grandstanded her way into political clebrity by running over the rights of Californians and even non- California companies and individuals. The alternative right now is Loretta Sanchez, who is all in on the Leftist agenda now.

Funnny that she campaigned in a generally conservative district which was then gerrymandered Dem.

These people have no shame.

daddy

I hate to disappoint JiB, but how can you even begin to mock a White House which is updating counter-terrorism policy on Twitter?

JMH,

The guys at the top don't know anything, nor do the guys at the bottom know anything. Like turtles, it's incompetence all the way down.

Captain Hate on the iPad

Contributing to corporate PACS was strongly encouraged in house and one of the many reasons I preferred consulting.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

So are you equating Fiorina donating some dough to a PAC that gives less than half its donations to Dems to Trump directly donating to the commie pinko Kamala Harris, not once but three times from 2011-2013 and his kid donating last year, TK?
Because that equation doesn't add up.

Not only that but I believe you have, as I have, questioned Fiorina's conservative bona fides. Why doesn't a far worse record on such things cause you to question Trump's?

NK

Don't mess what TK's vibe. Le Donald says what TK wants to hear, so that is all.

Rick Ballard

glasater,

Iron ore is similarly fascinating. Chinese mills are liquidating stocks of iron ore purchased (and paid for) with LCs at liquidation prices far below cost in order to make interest payments in order to prevent default. The same thing is happening with copper and aluminum but to a slightly lesser extent.

The collapse of OPEC control gets really interesting if oil gets below $30. The ME is not net positive on food production and the subsidy level required to prevent civil unrest cannot be maintained for very long with oil <$30.

Threadkiller

I am wondering how much money to Boxer is enough to DQ Fiorina, I guess.

Threadkiller

NK!

;-)

NK

Ig-- Carly was head and senior exec at publicly traded corps., i.e. a fiduciary to shareholders like gov't worker pension funds. Hence, she has to play the even handed game. As an individual SH I didn't like her business plan as HP CEO, but I admitted she pushed the political envelope as much as possible back in the day when Silicon Valley started going left wing. Le Donald has never run a publicly traded business to my knowledge, he had investors and bond creditors. He could have said and done anything he wanted. And he did.

How low can they go?  Oh, yah, I know.

TC, CLF.

Threadkiller

Why doesn't a far worse record on such things cause you to question Trump's?

It causes me to question both Trump and Fiorina equally and conclude that they both had to use a strategy to survive in business in liberal run pay to play hellholes.

If they were congressional politicians would they would similarly vote for cloture and then vote against certain bills to appease both side of the aisle?

I don't know.


Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Your comments have not reflected an equal questioning of both.

Fiorina, despite a considerably more conservative record over the years, has been the butt of many comments by you while Trump has been the beneficiary of many despite being a Dem most of his life and supporting more liberal policies on most issues than Fiorina until quite recently.

NK

Senior Exec/CEO at Fortune 100 companies is materially more politically restricted than promoting private investment projects. Trump had far more flexibility to be politically selective than Carly at public corps. Trump could have been a minor league version of the Kocks or Sheldon A, who leveraged their privately held wealth into political action. He always sided with Trump action, not political action. And that's fine, so long as we all acknowledge that reality.

NK

Kochs.... sorry

Rick Ballard

Sharpen thy lance, Queequeg.

Threadkiller

Your comments have not reflected an equal questioning of both.

This is true. As is the rest of your comment.

Trump's birther antics have made me gloss over some of the better arguments you have made against him.

I will give pause before I post my rapid defensive statements about him and try to digest what other's comments are saying.

Have you come across a source that tracks Trump's evolution from Liberal to Conservative?

I will search as well, and give it serious consideration, Ig.

henry

Cruz now 5% above Trump in Iowa. FWIW. (ht lurking one)

NK

Cruz-Carly I think crushes Hilligula; I KNOW Marco - Carly would.

glasater

Thanks, RickB. Always appreciate your thinking and comments.

glasater

The thing that comes to my mind re Rubio is that he appears to now be the MFM's fair haired child. They're promoting him big time.
Its another set-up to undercut the guy if he should win the nomination.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Have you come across a source that tracks Trump's evolution from Liberal to Conservative? --

No, because it doesn't seem to have a discernible arc. It seems to change more with whether he is considering a run for office and what that run might require.

It would be nice if Trump were elected and surprised us all by doing what he said he would, but if anyone should be leery of ignoring Sam Johnson's definition of a second marriage regarding a politician it ought to be someone looking at a Republican.

After all I'm pretty sure no democrat has ever won the Strange New Respect award.

Old Lurker

Cruz-Carly, NK...

Old Lurker

"The thing that comes to my mind re Rubio is that he appears to now be the MFM's fair haired child. They're promoting him big time."

I rest my case.

:-)

Bori

Trump's evolution can be summed up by one word; Opportunity.

A weakened Clinton, a failure for a President and a large mostly unknown cast of candidates in the Republican side.

NK

or opportunist.

JMHanes

I didn't realize the "transcript" page also included this companion international bullet list:

 photo WhiteHouseBullets2_zpsxsna0rv8.jpeg.

Things got funnier and funnier, from there, and then curiouser and curiouser.

Although TM's page reproduces Obama's address, I clicked their "read the President's remarks" link, assuming that it would take me to the actual White House transcript. It went to the White House alright, but I got a "Failed to open page/Can't find the server" error message. Now, I wasn't sure upon whose end the problem lay, but the actual URL was highly suggestive:

https://edit-v2.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/12/06/address-nation-president

LOL. I don't know how many interim edits there have been, but here's the latest from the White House, which is actually presented as a news item about the speech, and which gives pride of place to this "quotation" from Obama:

For seven years, I have confronted this evolving threat each morning in my intelligence briefing. And since the day I took this office, I have authorized U.S. forces to take out terrorists abroad precisely because I know how real the danger is. As Commander-in-Chief, I have no greater responsibility than the security of the American people.
By confronting, I believe he means reading the latest on his iPad, after it's been vetted to protect his pride. When you get to the end of the report's alternating bullet pointed text and bullet pointed slides (and a video highlight cautioning against war with Islam!), you can finally click to "Read the Transcript" -- which takes you back to the page originally linked by TM. The odd URL of that page is why I went looking for an "official" transcript in the first place.

https://medium.com/@WhiteHouse/president-obama-addresses-the-nation-on-keeping-the-american-people-safe-b4cfa8a0f143#.ts4l9shkd

Wondering why the White House seems to have outsourced this particular transcript, I checked out A Medium Corporation.

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I'm going to go with the most obvious conclusion here, although the tin foil can be hard to resist.

The White House has clearly been thrown into total disarray by the obvious need to address the San Bernadino shootings, the lack of plausible ideas on how to do it, and a President loathe to have any part of it. It looks like everybody & his brother was working on this thing, trying to slap something together, and then trying to mitigate the disaster after-the-fact with corrections, and powerpoint bullet lists, and new talking points added on the fly. Everything about it, right down to the design mechanics screams "Amateur." The grown-ups have well and truly left the building. Alas.

JMHanes

Oops. Didn't mean to interrupt the flow. Carry on!

buccaneer morgan

The ypg are the only forces that don't turn and run facing islamic stAte, they took back kobani and severed the road from sinjar.

buccaneer morgan

Yet as patrick poole points the administration still trusts like ahram al shams and others with men and materiel.

NK

JMH-- thanks for catching that. I have to agree with every word in your comment.

Appalled

JMH:

That's an impressive bit of detective work...

Threadkiller

It isn't the first time Whitehouse amateurs slapped something together in response to mounting pressure on a topic they did not wish to address.

Jeff Dobbs

JMH:
The odd URL of that page is why I went looking for an "official" transcript in the first place.

If you go to the wh.gov homepage and hover of Briefing Room, then go to "Speeches and Remarks" link under "From the Press Office" - you will see the transcript linked on the resulting page.

In fact, the url is simply the funny looking url with "edit-v2" being replaced by "www"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/12/06/address-nation-president

Of course, right below his Oval Office speech is the link to his remarks to Kennedy Center honorees a few hours earlier. Those start off this way...

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you so much. Please, everybody, have a seat, have a seat. Have a seat and welcome to the White House. This is a good-looking group. (Laughter.)

Doing a ctrl-f, the transcript indicates there were 34 laughters in his remarks.

Hey, one can't expect the president to be serious all of the time.

A rich, rich, legacy.

He's going to be one of the most laughed at Presidents of all time.

JMHanes

NK:

I'm just glad you managed to get to every word! It ended up a little longer than I intended.


Jeff:

Actually the "odd URL" was a reference to the medium.com page.

Yes, if you replace the edit-v2 with www, it will take you to the barebones transcript, but if you don't do that, you will not be redirected, you'll get a Failed to Open page. In other words, the latter link is broken, presumably in the process of yet further tinkering, and quite likely because they really don't want to send people to the official transcript.

The second part of my exercise started out at the WH home page, where I used the "Learn More" link under the prominently placed "President Obama's Address to the Nation." This is where most people looking for the President's remarks will start, rather than doing a Briefing Room hover. The transcript link at the bottom of the resulting page does not, in fact, take you to the text only transcript, it takes you to the sexier version on medium.com -- i.e. to the page that includes the corrected and updated powerpoint slides, which presumably could not be inserted into the formal official transcript.

anonamom

No mincing words here--
Let's Kill Then First

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/12/07/lets-kill-them-first-column/76887412/

In light of the recent attacks, we should remember our heritage and apply it today. Tough citizens don’t give government more power in a crisis. They know that government cannot always be there to protect them. Police and bureaucrats didn’t stop the hijackers of Flight 93 on September 11, the shoe-bomber later that December, the underwear bomber in 2009, or the Thalys train attacker this year. Neither did thicker cockpit doors or ineffective TSA screening. These acts of terrorism were stopped by ordinary citizens.

anonamom

FDR addressing Congress, Dec 8 1941

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK8gYGg0dkE&feature=youtu.be

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