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July 14, 2016

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Man Tran

Foist?

Captain Hate

Bernie would've just squandered it like everything else...

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

The challenge, in searching Hillary's life is not finding scandal.

Helen Keller in a lead lined bathysphere at the bottom of the Marianas Trench could detect it.

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

We already have a winner @11:23.

sbw

Thanks for your suggestions. All good.

Continuing:

Education means not nurturing a self-regulated individual, but rather schooling a student to conform to what the elite define as useful.

buccaneer morgan

lol, sbw, right up there with bierce's devil's dictionary, but all too brief,

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

A further exploration of the staggering hypocrisy and outright lies that the letters ESPN represent.

The writer reminds us that Curt Schilling and Ray Lewis lost their jobs for off the cuff comments that were minuscule in comparison to the giant, offensive orchestrated BLM dump they took on their own meaningless Espys, or whatever they're called.

Blue Porchlight

Salty tears in Slate as the Bernvictims realize just how hard they were played.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/07/how_bernie_spent_his_millions_was_anything_but_revolutionary.html

Thomas Collins

Perhaps C-Span could invite the heads of polling at Reuters Rolling and Rasmussen Reports to discuss how responses are weighted. It would be an interesting discussion.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch

buccaneer morgan

Schweitzer, is perhaps one of the phone booth full of real journalists in this country,

Blue Porchlight

TC, what do you think of the polls? I note you usually mention them only when he's doing badly.

;) j/k old pal...

buccaneer morgan

I put up a graph about campaign spending in the three battleground states, which is almost an inverse correlation, to quinnipiac figures,

Blue Porchlight

Sorry I missed it, narciso. If you can point me to it I'd love to see it.

Is it true he hasn't run any TV attack ads yet?

buccaneer morgan

there's been some,

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/campaign-spending.jpg?w=640&h=395

more by outside parties,

henry

Well, possibly jumping the gun...

but on twitter:

BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump picks Mike Pence as his running mate.

buccaneer morgan

lets be blunt, how many felons, past and present, in the goodell lineup,

henry

And the there was one, 6 of 7 remaining ACA co-ops about to fail. 16 failed already.

RattlerGator

I have to say, I'm more than a little surprised at the dismissal of Senator Scott's speech. Though my personal history doesn't support it, seven stops in twelve months for any collection of reasons is extraordinary.

And doubting the truthfulness of his remarks? Damn. I don't for one second doubt the man on this score. I do doubt his conscious connection to the simple mathematics of policing but much of the country seems to have this same affliction.

Even if true, however, our over-representation in policing matters gives rise to a maddening by-product: stopped by law enforcement for nothing more than Driving While Black. When you combine that with an inability suffered by many African Americans (conclusively presuming race is the primary factor in all manner of ordinary occurrences that most people encounter), you get some of the foolish community overreactions (Trayvon particularly drives me crazy; so does Ferguson, Missouri).

But not all of them are overreactions.

Blue Porchlight

Pence it is! Shows what I know. :)

buccaneer morgan

it's probably true, it's also beside the point people don't hear nuance, this is why zimmerman has to act like dr. richard kimball, three years after he was acquitted, because the crump/julian core of what we later call somelives matter, poured blood on him,

DebinNC

But not all of them are overreations

Amen, brother. The worst episode imo was the arrest and subsequent suicide-in-jail of Sandra Bland

buccaneer morgan

the choke hold on garner was as well, but again it wasn't about race, and tamir rice, well the greeks couldn't have conceived of something so horrible,

buccaneer morgan

we attribute tragedys to unrelated elements and they whitewash deliberate acts,

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/07/14/senate-intelligence-committee-to-investigate-known-wolf-terrorism-problem/2/

Jack is Back! (As Mr. Fixit)

If you have a lead foot, and I have been known to possess one from time to time, I can understand even a white guy getting stopped 7 times.

Just wondering the weight of Scott's right foot and his driving record.

Momto2


Spelling Lesson :
The last four letters in American.......... I Can
The last four letters in Republican........ I Can
The last four letters in Democrats......... Rats


End of lesson! .....Test to follow on November 6, 2016 .


Remember, November 2016 is to be set aside as rodent removal month!

buccaneer morgan

now back to house of cards,


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/14/theresa-mays-cabinet-reshuffle-who-will-join-boris-johnson-and/

RattlerGator

Interesting Periscope with Scott Adams just concluded; he's still predicting a landslide victory for Donald Trump based on his utilization of far better persuasion tools.

Also, someone commented that Bill Clinton has Parkinson's. Has anyone heard that rumor?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--And doubting the truthfulness of his remarks?--

I must have missed that.

DebinNC

Tim Scott's rise from poverty to the national stage ... credits his very remarkable mother and his savior Jesus Christ. I believe Tim Scott, especially about his own life experiences.

Frau ich verstehe die Welt nicht mehr

Howard Zinn strikes again!

In my small town McClatchy newsette today, a letter to the editor stated that "an entire community is being systematically exterminated,"
and the writer concludes:

The proposition that all lives matter is a false narrative that neglects to consider the racist history of a country that has not fully evolved and in some ways devolved.
I want to live in a nation where *all* lives actually do matter, and it's more than simply words being uttered as a counter-narrative to the actual truth.
But I don't, and until the lives of black people are equally valued in the same way as my white friends, then I reject the notion that all lives matter.

My questions for this "former city youth commissioner" are: Will he name those actually exterminating his entire community? Will Days of Rage alleviate what he calls an "insidious problem" or can he actually offer some suggestions?

Blue Porchlight
"Was I speeding sometimes? Sure," said Scott. "But the vast majority of the time, I was pulled over for nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood or some other reason just as trivial."

Speeding sometimes - check
Some other reason just as trivial - check, and "trivial" is unsubstantiated

So exactly how many times was he pulled over "driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood" (which I note has nothing to do with race)?

Frau ich verstehe die Welt nicht mehr

I don't doubt Senator Scott's account, either. I'm waiting to hear more from him. I note that he was driving and not being driven; I'm thinking of you, Sheila!

Was Sen. Scott invited to the most-important meeting in the WH?
If not, why not?

Thomas Collins

With the exception of Reuters Rolling, Blue Porchlight, both the overall and battleground state polls indicate a close election with The Hill as the favorite. Reuters Rolling has been such an outlier that I tend to discount it. I suppose if I were more ambitious, I could look into the weightings the various pollsters are making (for example, the assumptions re Dem/GOP/Independent turnout) and see whether that explains Reuters Rolling's far more favorable numbers for The Hill. Rick Ballard usually does that type of analysis, but I don't think he has posted for awhile.

Dave (in MA)

I figured it wasn't going to be Flynn when he appeared on a Boston sports radio show this morning.

buccaneer morgan

no he's been over at neoneocon, swallowing the dessert topping,

buccaneer morgan

this is the insight we get,

https://twitter.com/JennaMC_Laugh/status/753595419414896640

actually it's likely to be much larger than san bernardino, more like paris scaled up,

Thomas Collins

Pence is a wise choice. Among other things, it makes any revolt virtually impossible to succeed.

Blue Porchlight

Thanks TC. I was wondering what you thought of the recent positive change for Trump, since the last time I remember you weighing in you had noted a recent negative change for Trump.

buccaneer morgan

do the #willing for hillary, do anything constructive, rhetorical,

Thomas Collins

I think Trump needs a solid convention bump, Blue Porchlight, because The Hill's coronation as Dem queen is going to be a positive worship-fest by Oligarch Media.

Blue Porchlight

Agree on Pence TC. The socially liberal Trump supporters I follow won't like it, but it won't keep them from voting for him, whereas I think it can win over some of the needed anti-Trumpers or fencesitters on the right.

Also, Indiana was such a huge primary win for Trump that I think a little Hoosier flavor on the ticket might just bring some more luck.

Yet another reason to watch Hoosiers and Breaking Away. :)

henry

TC, plus they don't broadcast in Smell-O-Vision -- the Bernie bro fart in has less impact outside the venue.

Blue Porchlight

Agree too on convention bump. Just praying for peace and safety most of all.

Thomas Collins

I'll bet Kasich feels a tinge of regret he didn't board the Trump train. He would have been the pick if he had gotten on board, I think.

buccaneer morgan

I think weaver and spencer, who's in the pleistocene era, kept encouraging him,

Art in Newport

.. Kasich ... would have been the pick if he had gotten on board,..

Not unlikely, Thomas

Miss Marple 2

Thomas Collins,

True, but I am also remembering how many of the democrats are old and unappealing. Also, the democrats have a tendency to do boring things like panel discussions or mockworthy things like "Introducing Hillary Clinton on Film - the Most Amazing Woman Ever."

Also, I don't think Debbie Wasserman-Schultz can organize her way out of a brown paper bag.


We will see.

Frau ich verstehe die Welt nicht mehr

Ruthie did not apologize to Trump, citing problems with her lace collars.

Half of that is factual.

Thomas Collins

Smell-o-Vision would make the Bernie fartathon have more impact, henry. Perhaps we could also smell weed being smoked on the convention floor by Bernie's Baby Boppers and Boomers. Ultimately, though, Bernie's Baby Boppers and Boomers will be pacified.

RattlerGator

Thomas Collins, I think you're missing the vibe of this election. It doesn't matter at all how much they slobber over Hillary. In fact, that will only hurt her with the undecideds. Enough people know we're being lied to. Don't think it, know it.

Scott Adams opined that the majority of the "undecideds" are Trump voters who simply haven't digested the choice . . . yet. I agree.

Blue Porchlight

Manafort says decision to be announced tomorrow. Not confirming Pence. I suppose a late head fake is still possible.

buccaneer morgan

speaking of coup d'etat's

https://twitter.com/JennaMC_Laugh/status/753595419414896640

true, but they will hide that in the afternoon when people are watching soaps or the sad panoply of springer and co,

henry

Porch, a head fake on Pence would be a good way to force people to watch Trump announce (not the "insider" news readers). It cuts the MSM power to size.

Blue Porchlight

Totally agree, RG.

It's like 1980. Undecideds know they don't like the Dem, are waiting to see if the Repub is acceptable.

Media sHilling would have already worked by now if it was ever going to.

Blue Porchlight

That would be great, henry. Yet another stick in their eye.

Miss Marple 2

Saw a report that Marco Rubio and Bob Knight will address the convention by video.

Also, I think a head fake is quite possible.

I will take whoever it is as Trump has his reasons for whoever he chooses. I don't think he's looking at the election as much as governing.

buccaneer morgan

coincidence, or enemy action.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/politics/28-pages-on-alleged-saudi-arabia-ties-to-sept-11-attacks-to-be-released/index.html

Jack is Back! (As Mr. Fixit)

If its Pence and we have two white males for the Republicans then Hillary has to go Hispanic or person of color, right?

Castro or Perez?

Think BLM will accept that?

Thomas Collins

I hope you're correct and I'm wrong, RG. But my only bet for the general election is with Blue Porchlight, and it doesn't involve a tattoo this time!

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

I don't think anyone doubts Tim Scott's numbers or even his perceptions.
The question is whether his perceptions are correct and as Porch points out just exactly how those numbers break down.
Seven is a mighty small number to be shoehorning "sometimes" "the vast majority" and "some other reason" into.

Frau Lamont Cranston

What evil lurks in the hearts of men?

The Friday news dump knows.

buccaneer morgan

I noted last night, how ms, keelar, strove to convince that she had not been shutdown for two instances of crimethink, on twitter,

Thomas Collins

Corey Booker or Deval Patrick, JiB? Or maybe Team Hill will decide that of pallor males still vote and do a really "out there" thing for a Dem and pick one for the Veep slot.

Thomas Collins

Corey Booker or Deval Patrick, JiB? Or maybe Team Hill will decide that of pallor males still vote and do a really "out there" thing for a Dem and pick one for the Veep slot.

buccaneer morgan

ugh, I was seeing on drudge, there's an interview scheduled with leslie stahl, what is this 1984?

buccaneer morgan

'you didn't see that coming'

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/et_tu_bernie_20160712

Frau Lamont Cranston

Red diaper baby Castro for sure, JiB. BLM and the the United FSA are working for HRC without a VP slot.

Beasts of England

Trumpence 2016!!

Jack is Back! (As Mr. Fixit)

TC,

The Black vote is already tied up except for election day enthusiasm but Trump is showing that the Hispanic vote is not as tied up.

I go with a Hispanic. YMMV.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--The worst episode imo was the arrest and subsequent suicide-in-jail of Sandra Bland--

That was a sad episode but what has it got do with anything?
The cop went off on her but there is not a shred of evidence race played any part in it.
The cop was fired but that was because he was indicted for lying about how events had transpired to cover up his overreaction.

Has nothing to do with race. Period. Unless one believes that every interaction between a white cop and a black person is about race.

Frau Hoden

buccaneer - your link @ 1:37 shows Hillary! caught in the act of adding two more to her lock box collection.

RattlerGator

I have to run, but I'll end with this offering. Iggy, you've got to remember he (Senator Scott) was talking about just one year. He quite likely isn't limiting his recollection, however, to one year. He gave an example of his brother, a Command Sergeant Major in the Army, driving home from Texas to Carolina. I think y'all benefit from not narrowly dissecting his speech.

[*]
--And doubting the truthfulness of his remarks?--

I must have missed that.

Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | July 14, 2016 at 01:02 PM

Well, Iggy, consider these comments from impressive regulars. It might just be me, but I view them as dismissive of his personal claim.

[1]
Re Tim Scott, I am skeptical of his claim, unless he himself is in the habit of doing something suspicious or speeding, say.
Posted by: jimmyk on iPhone | July 14, 2016 at 10:16 AM

[2]
I have nothing against Senator Scott. I just don't see why I should take his word for it that the only reason he was stopped was because he was a black man driving a nice car.
Posted by: Blue Porchlight | July 14, 2016 at 10:46 AM

[3]
Scott needs to hang out with Allen West more and less with Goober Graham.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 14, 2016 at 10:55 AM

Certainly not a big deal to me but very representative of just how varied (and fraught with opportunities for miscommunication) any national discussion on the topic will inevitably be.

jimmyk

RG, my skepticism was the claim that he was pulled over seven times in a year simply because he's black. It sounds like even he said that's not the case, that he was "speeding sometimes," etc.

the choke hold on garner was as well, but again it wasn't about race

That's the point, though: Police can be overly aggressive for a variety of reasons, but when the victim is black there's a presumption that race was the reason. As I said, maybe it is on occasion, but not nearly as much as seems to be claimed, since much of it can be explained by rational profiling, and the particulars of the situation.

jimmyk

And I should add, I'm not even sure the police were in the wrong in the Garner case. It was a bad outcome, but largely caused by Garner's own health issues, in the sense that hardly anyone treated identically by the police would have died.

buccaneer morgan

scheer's salty tears were worth savoring, honestly how can he be that naive, money and power crushed a people's movement, isn't that dependency theory chapter one, by contrast, another movement withstood the power of organized money and influence,

daddy

IMO, the link Janet put up @06:21 is insane.
"vote and serve on a jury" "transported at taxpayer cost"

That is astounding, but think what a pain it is for the average employed citizen to do Jury Duty. If a scheme is created that allows convicted and incarcerated Felons to be eligible to serve on Jury's, and the Police are required to transport these criminals to court so they can be on Jury's, every Felon in the jail will be begging to be driven to court each and every day for potential Jury Duty.

It will destroy the Justice System obviously, but just the cost and mechanics of transporting the criminals to Court will be astronomical, plus they will have to be fed and somehow paid for doing their "Civic Duty."

If I was an incarcerated Felon, I would demand to be driven to Court each and every day Court is open, in order to sit on a Jury or to be eligible to be called for the Jury pool, and I would sue the Government for not complying with my wishes to perform my Civic Duty on any day they refused to transport me to Court.

Total madness.

The Legendary Matt

The gap in Hillary's e mails is much longer that 18 minutes considering the time it took to type them.

Free James D

Ig @ 1;52

I agree - it's not about race at all. It's about police (and jail, in the Bland case) misconduct in general. I think that would be a far more fruitful conversation to discuss the corrupting effect of police unions, the lack of oversight and accountability for not only police but prosecutors and judges, the criminalization of so many things that ought not fall under criminal law at all, the use of police as revenue generators rather than peace officers, and so forth.

But I'm not holding my breath on any of that.

daddy

Miss Marple,

Just awoke and haven't started catch-up, but I see that Mike Pence is pulling out of the Indiana Governor's Race. Who steps in?

buccaneer morgan

your guess is as good as mine,

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/14/trump-campaign-denies-reports-mike-pence-tapped-vp/

Miss Marple 2

You know, one of the problems with this whole Scott thing is that he is saying something that we really hoped wasn't true.

Since he is a truthful man, I am assuming that at least some of the stops had no logical explanation.

On the other hand, some of the stops might have had a rational reason but they didn't bother to explain it to him.

I don't know enough about this to judge one way or the other. For example, could it be that in some jurisdictions these stops ARE racially motivated? Could it be that in others they are not? I need more information. I would also like to hear the police side of Senator Scott's stops.

The Legendary Matt

I have a hard time with Senator Scott's story. All state and federal senators and assemblymen/women/representatives etc. have license plates that indicate such. One does not dare stop them unless there is very good cause. The fallout is career fatal.

I remember driving up I-5 at 75 to Sacramento and watching a nice BMW blow by me at 90. They have important things to do, y'know....

daddy

Now I see that Miss M's favorite, Mitch Daniels, says he won't run for Indiana Governor.

C'mon, Greg Ballard.

Buckeye

if Scott was pulled over 7 times in 12 months in South Carolina, I would not be surprised.

In 1972 I was visiting a high school buddy who went to College of Charleston on a basketball scholarship over spring break.

I was downtown and needed to stop in a drugstore. There was an elderly, somewhat feeble, black man entering right in front of me, and I opened the door for him.

I will never forget the look of disbelief on his face. Nor will I forget the look of disapproval from the shop owner.

What was normal respect for your elders in the North was clearly a breech of protocol in Charleston.

Attitudes were worlds apart.


The Legendary Matt

One of the other hard things to believe about the release of "non-violent" felons is that often they are in on those non-violent charges because the case could not be built for charges for violent felonies.

Think Al Capone.

It would be interesting to delve into Obama's commutations and pardons.

Anyone wanna bet that the list in January 2017 will be the longest in history?

DrJ

I remember driving up I-5 at 75 to Sacramento and watching a nice BMW blow by me at 90.

The stories about then-speaker-of-the-Assembly Willie Brown's speed on I-80 to or from Sacramento are legendary.

Miss Marple 2

daddy,

Nothing has been verified yet.

Mitch Daniels says he won't run, no how, no way. He wants to stay at Purdue until he retires.

Names mentioned include Susan Brooks, Eric Holcomb (vurrent lieutenant governor and a former Daniels' aide) and (ta-da) Mayor Ballard !

Ballard would be my choice, but as you know, no one listens to me.

I am still not sure Pence is the pick. I won't believe it until i see him riding down that golden escalator in Trump Towers.

buccaneer morgan

and they wonder why they are farfegnugen,

http://www.thelocal.de/20160714/germany-will-be-rooting-for-hillary-in-us-elections-trump-usa

Dave (in MA)

Sooper Jeenius Deval Patrick? The guy who had to take the bar exam 3 times as many times as my neighbor who drives a tow truck for a living did?

daddy

OK, I see has been picked as the Veep. That explains the Pence move pulling out of the race for Governor.

Not my favorite Newt, but I suppose I have to live with that choice.

Go Pence.

buccaneer morgan

a reminder,


https://personalliberty.com/activists-call-day-rage-friday-avoid-places/

jmo

FYI, If you watched the video of Senator Scott he would see that he raised his hand and indicated that two of the stops (of the seven) were for speeding. I still think he's just being honest. How many of us have been stopped 5 times in a year.

And yes I would listen to the other side of the story if its available. We all see things from our own perspective.

daddy

It is nice to see that the unqualified moron Donald Trump has been able to educate Legendary Legal Genius Ginsburg on her Constitutional ignorance.

buccaneer morgan

rocket surgery practiced here,

http://freebeacon.com/politics/mccaskill-founding-fathers-maniacal-wanting-separation-powers/

daddy

Pence is a wise choice. Among other things, it makes any revolt virtually impossible to succeed.

Posted by: Thomas Collins

Good point TC. That makes sense to me. Newt as Veep would not have alleviated that problem.

rse

Someone should inquire if scott was driving to and from myrtle beach frequently. Those towns rely on speeders to meet their budgets.

daddy

ugh, I was seeing on drudge, there's an interview scheduled with the Legendary leslie stahl, what is this 1984?

Fixed that for you, Narciso.

 Oughta know.

EB, isn't Pence a conniver on education?

 They've figured out that climate policy impacts industrial policy.

Oughta know where he stands on Energy and Climate.

They're Maydancing in Great Britain. Cleaning out the greenhouse.

rse

Yes kim. The so-called pulling out of common core was simply a rename and Lumina and Hudson are both headqaurtered in Indianapolis. Unclear to me whether he knows better or simply assumes terms mean what they used to mean.

I have a document from the January 2015 Lumina 'convening' of 75 metro areas where the template on what education would become had clearly stated origins in an Indianapolis regional vision, but that could have more to do with the former mayor who is now a prof at kennedy school of govt.

Indiana is not like Ohio which is piloting some cutting-edge globally work in both performance assessments as well as part of the Innovation Lab Network.

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