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September 29, 2016

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buccaneer morgan

so were there any warning, why or why not,

maryrose

Still don't have the cause of the train wreck but a warning whistle should have gone off.According to my dad very hard to stop a train on a dime.

buccaneer morgan

had the engine and brakes been inspected recently on that cabin?

buccaneer morgan

in the metaphorical realm,

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimwatkins/the-white-house-asked-congress-to-keep-quiet-on-the-whole-ru?utm_term=.ba0gDDyjy#.kvO5vvDGD

maryrose

Lyle:
The term Frick and Frack can be applied to a variety of people in any number of circumstances.

buccaneer morgan

how often has this happened with a clean track, a functioning cab and a competent crew,

lyle

It can?!? 😬

henry the deplorable

Was the engineer texting? Isn't that what happened to the Amtrak in Philly?

Common man

Well the engineer is alive. Bet he gets the Democrat officeholder disease and just cant recall the facts...

henry the deplorable

Also note mandated automatic stopping / slowing systems not in use in Hoboken (as was the case in Philly, and also the Long Island one). This is something they know how to fix, but keep delaying deployment on.

henry the deplorable

Funny how a private firm that didn't install safety gear would be sued out of existence -- but these govt entities just get to ask for more money.

Buckeye

Henry, it will get deployed once the cronies are in place to skim their "fair share"

jimmyk

This is something they know how to fix, but keep delaying deployment on.

Isn't there a question about whether that PTC system passes any reasonable cost-benefit test? I know it sounds heartless, but spending $billions to attempt to make something risk-free (and likely it won't be) that could be spent on other more valuable things (including whatever the individuals who earned the income would like to spend it on) is at least debatable.

daddy on iPad

The train wreck is the main story on all the Brit channels. Good Morning!

henry the deplorable

jimmyk, does the commuter rail system itself pass any reasonable cost benefit analysis? Granted in the NYC metro area it might.

cathyf
I know it sounds heartless, but spending $billions to attempt to make something risk-free (and likely it won't be)...
There is always the possibility that any change that they make to increase safety will introduce new risks. See "Eastland disaster."

(After the Titanic sank and killed a boatload of people because there weren't enough lifeboats for everyone, they mandated that there be enough lifeboat seats for everyone. The SS Eastland was already topheavy, and hanging a bunch of lifeboats high above the top deck made it much more so. 844 people died when the boat capsized at the dock.)

jimmyk

Wow, cathyf, great (not in a happy sense) example. Never heard of that one. Probably not one that educrats like to include in their curriculum of why big government is the best thing on Earth.

-peter

one of the worst side effects of this accident is that metropolitan area media now saturated with sound bites from Andrew Cuomo.

-peter

I haven't seen video of the actual accident. One would think that with the trillion of so dollars spent beefing up security since 9/11, why weren't there security cameras in a major transportation hub.

Jack is Back!

Shhhh!

Need to let you all on a great, great, yuge deal. Been talking to Trump and he has this fantastic scam. We can all benefit. He is running for President but he really doesn’t want it. What he wants is to start his own TV network and newspaper to rival Fox and the NY Times.

Here is the deal. You and I contribute over $2.5K, the max for FEC, and we get a 1/25K share in the new venture, a free weekday night in his new DC hotel (twin beds only, next to the elevator, overlooking the dumpster area), plus two tickets to the last debate why ere I will concede the election to Clinton.

This way we get a head start on our new network so we can spend 24 hours bashing the shit out of Clinton to provide some relief to the flyover rubes taking in by New York Values, one more time.

Thing about it! Great idea, huh?

Captain Hate

There is no way this wasn't error on the part of the engineer. Maybe he was watching a clip of the Curb Dive shimmy and got violently ill.

Eart

Where they all on one side?🐋

Captain Hate

does the commuter rail system itself pass any reasonable cost benefit analysis?

Back when railroads were run by private companies, passenger trains were big money losers compared to freight.

cathyf

Long ago I subscribed to a Usenet discussion group Risks-L. They were centered on computer security, hacking, etc., but had strong interests in plane crashes and railway switching failures. Some of the 19th Century rail accidents are just classic lessons in safety engineering.

But, anyway, I learned that the one overarching rule of safety engineering is that ANY change in ANY thing can cause you to get totally blindsided by some risk that you don't appreciate until it kills a bunch of people. So good safety engineers don't change anything unless there is a good reason.

It this case, though, there are plenty of railroads with the safety interlocks and plenty without, so both probably can be considered reasonably proven.

...until the interlocks function precisely as designed in some situation that hasn't happened yet and no one anticipated...

(Earlier in the day there was some talk that the driver had a heart attack or stroke or seizure. That may have been simply speculation, though.)

Porchlight

cathy, the Eastland story is new to me. How sad.

It applies to so many more things than just safety, too.

henry the deplorable

Funny thing about reasonable cost benefit analysis..... when has the trial bar allowed that into a lawsuit except as evidence of the depravity of the private corporation? Another thing tilted to government entities.

Jack is Back!

Engineer is talking. No PTS on NJ Transit.

Let it make its way to what really happened. Right now its all speculation.

Jack is Back!

Fox is really going the full Vizzini on Trump. What a crock.

buccaneer morgan

I don't have fox on my cable package and I don't miss it,

Jack is Back!

In JamesD's house fire with locked doors and windows, can I ask Campaign Carl Cameron over for a visit before we ignite it?

henry the deplorable

Sure, the more the merrier.

buccaneer morgan

because that's really the issue,

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-clearance-idUSKCN11Z2TM?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

buccaneer morgan

so, why do they not install this equipment, just to save some unneeded hastles,

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/wow-watch-jacka-obama-clash-gold-star-mother-smear-christians-cnn-town-hall-video/

buccaneer morgan

well so 'norma desmond' is all wet

http://www.weaselzippers.us/298411-hoboken-crash-pelosi-rips-congress-for-delaying-ptc-deadline-but-she-voted-for-delay-for-installation/

maryrose

Obama essentially says to tell the truth about Islamic terrorists is to smear all other Muslims and their feelings will be hurt.

buccaneer morgan


"why do they use the modifier islamic, because this has been all too often the history of regimes under this faith, going back to the first caliph, it's not an accident that a pretender like baghdadi, takes the kunya of a abu bakr a successor to mohammed,

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/29/sean-penn-slams-trump-supporters-in-the-most-shocking-way-possible/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

At least our enemies leave us no doubt. That way, when it's rope and lamp post time, Penn can be included without one bit of pity.

buccaneer morgan

as a holder of a doctorate in islamic studies, he would know such things, to not regard the faith of the salafi as integral to their actions, is an insult to a well trained adversary,

Jack is Back!

Fox is the right side of the #nevertrump. Unbelieveable the thumb on the scale and its all Ruperts. I hope Jerry Hall does great BJ's to keep that asshole happy.

GUS

This just in, James Commie is investigating the HOBOKEN train wreck. All employees of the railroad have been given immunity.

MOVE ALONG FOLKS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

buccaneer morgan

and that is why they forced out ailes, who for all his faults, kept his eye on the big picture,

Implicitly biased deplorable jim

The SS Eastland ferried people from Chicago to my home town where they had access to the dunes and their summer homes along Lake Michigan.

GUS

Maryrose, likewise with the MARINE "CORPSE". Obama will allow MARINES to DIE or weaken their mission, to give OPPORTUNITY/FAIRNESS.
Truth doesn't matter. Obama is the biggest REDACTED-WAD, I have ever witnessed. He's a candy assed punk. GOOD JOB AMERICA!!

buccaneer morgan

he's written the queen and country series, the adaptation of the sanddiggers, which begs to be turned into a series, however he's still a left coast prog,

buccaneer morgan

I thought we had copyrighted that name,

http://canadafreepress.com/article/kerry-to-congress-if-you-dont-pass-tpp-that-will-be-bad-because-i-said-you

buccaneer morgan

they're just begging to be taken over by ocp,


http://canadafreepress.com/article/detroit-news-endorses-gary-johnson-who-cant-name-one-world-leader-and-whose

maryrose

Weld sitting next to Johnson was probably thinking"what the heck am I doing here?"

henry the deplorable

Or "where did Johnson put those brownies?"

rse

I know about the Eastland disaster but only recently. That suggests it was discussed in a book I was reading for another reason.

Thanks cathy f. Once again I will awaken at 3 am trying to synthesize.

lurkersusie

Scary stuff if true.

Mark Slatem
Mark Slatem – ‏@trentster

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Jack is Back!

cathyf,

Every project I was ever involved in from my entry level field engineering assignment to major project and business line management we always did complete safety and risk analysis. Backbone of the business if you want to protect your project and gross margin projections.

NJ Transit is miles behind.

lurkersusie

She is insane


Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton explained to a crowd in Des Moines, Iowa that she was disturbed by all the negativity surrounding the election.
“It breaks my heart to see all the mean spirited, divisive, bigoted things that are being said in our country,” she said, placing her hand on her chest during a rally on Thursday afternoon.

Clinton opened up her rally proclaiming that she wanted her campaign to be “about something, not just against somebody” and tried to spark a positive tone in the rally.

“We can have our differences for heaven’s sakes, we’re Americans, that’s in our DNA,” she said, calling for everyone to “listen to one another” going forward.

Clinton warmly told the crowd long stories about her parents, but her attempt to signal a bright new future quickly turned nasty.

“He spends all of his time just dumping on America,” she said, referring to Trump

She repeatedly attacked Trump, accusing him of hurting workers, and suggested that the billionaire hadn’t been paying any taxes.

“You can see that we’ve been blessed,” she said. “We’re grateful for that but we’ve paid the highest marginal tax rates, and we are glad we could.”

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buccaneer morgan

they seem not to understand what a bluff is, shocker,

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/29/russian-leaders-strangely-terrified-obama-might-nuke-them/

Jack is Back!

Why people cannot see Clinton for what she is, a walking well upohstered sofa with a phony smile and condensending focus on the past as the future, I just can'f figure.

How Trump is only even or behind her is baffling.

Free James D!

JiB, she's not even well upholstered.

henry the deplorable

Lurkersusie, that is frightening if real.

buccaneer morgan

winning the future,

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=96924

Truthbetold5

Jack

The biggest weakness for the Tea Party was also its biggest strength. It was not centralized.

That limited how effective the Tea Party could be. However it also made the Tea Party difficult to co-opt. Something the establishment could not stand for.

Trump changed all that. And not for the better.

buccaneer morgan

on a positive note,

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/september-30th-2016/my-journey-from-tehran-to-rome/

lurkersusie

Nothing to see here

Kaine preps for debate with spouse of moderator’s CBS co-worker | New York

http://nypost.com/2016/09/28/kaine-preps-for-debate-with-spouse-of-moderators-cbs-coworker/

buccaneer morgan

sound and fury, signifying nothing,

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/deeply-shallow/news-story/9930f78af05db4c2e8a2f3ef97b2ee81

Jack is Back!

Isn't that something that a high powered DC lawyer would be married to a national TV correspondent. My surprise meter just redlined. The revolving door is one of the architectual details Trump is sure to correct.

buccaneer morgan

well he'll need a limpet mine or two, barnett has flacked for both the huntress and the razorbacks, interestingly the former has probably done more business in terms of sales than the latter,

Truthbetold5

Jack

Yet, you have no problem with Clarice Feldman being a shill for Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz

buccaneer morgan

an old nelson demille potboiler, the talbott odyssey, suggests how the Division could have arisen, out of a new york storefront, somewhat like donovan leisure,

buccaneer morgan

shirley he can't be serious,


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3814819/Making-Murderer-s-Steven-Avery-wants-Brad-Pitt-play-him.html

buccaneer morgan

he was the solon's sherpa, that should fill you with anxiety,

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/29/syriasly-bro-deputy-secretary-of-state-cant-explain-obamas-plan-for-syria-video/#ixzz4LfGrm9yk

buccaneer morgan

too much bangers and mash?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/corbyn-ally-under-fire-for-questioning-holocaust-day/

a little distressing in a segment about the new film about deborah lipstadt, she seems to think
remarks about muslim's celebrating on 9/11 is tantamount to thought crime,

buccaneer morgan

here's another example,

http://forward.com/culture/350437/hollywood-makes-its-case-against-denial-will-it-matter/

Jack is Back!

Wrong place, wrong time. Young Brazilian mother of 1, trained lawyer, looking for a new apartment, loses her life in Hoboken disaster.

http://nypost.com/2016/09/29/cops-identify-woman-killed-in-hoboken-train-crash/

buccaneer morgan

that's a tautology cohen indulges in,

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/09/25/they-had-to-improve-it/

buccaneer morgan

carp, I was afraid of that, when a locomotives comes barreling down that track, such a circumstance is nearly unavoidable,

lurkersusie

Your member of Congress is lying to you

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/09/your-member-of-congress-is-lying-to-you?utm_content=buffer111c1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

lurkersusie

Number keeps changing

State Dept admitted 5,600 Clinton emails recovered by FBI were not personal emails

buccaneer morgan

I don't think we're ever getting to those yoga pictures, as c3po might put it 'thank the maker'

lurkersusie

What is congress doing about this?
I know the answer nothing.
They're are letting Obama give away
our country.


John Bolton: Hostile Foreign Governments Will Use Obama’s Internet Surrender to Their Advantage - Breitbart

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/09/29/john-bolton-hostile-foreign-governments-will-use-obamas-internet-surrender-advantage/

buccaneer morgan

a narrower learning curve,


http://www.wsj.com/articles/belgium-to-expand-targeted-security-measures-in-brussels-1475170959

Captain Hate

It is impossible to accurately measure how much I hate this gutless Congress.

buccaneer morgan

it's in the quatloons isn't it,

https://twitter.com/alimhaider/status/781631923751751680

this is why I say the gulf war was a greater mistake, somewhat like the mexican war,

lurkersusie

Federal Judge: Brown University Railroaded Student Accused Of Rape | The Daily Caller

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/29/brown-university-railroaded-student-accused-of-rape-judge-rules/

Captain Hate

Suck it, Brown; too bad the judge didn't go further in the case and bring Title IX into question.

Janet S.

THe MFM sure didn't care about protecting beauty pageant contestants when Carrie Prejean was being attacked.

Let loose the dogs on Carrie...but Alicia is a saint.

buccaneer morgan

he waxes like chauncey gardner,


http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/29/ny-governor-raises-possibility-nj-train-crash-was-work-of-our-enemies-video/

lurkersusie

Mickey Kaus
Mickey Kaus – ‏@kausmickey

"Operatives in Brooklyn had been working with Machado since the summer." http://wpo.st/F6c02 & they missed this? http://eleconomista.com.mx/seguridad-publica/2010/04/22/indio-tuvo-hija-alicia-machado

lurkersusie

Interesting

Roll Call
Roll Call – Verified account ‏@rollcall

Democratic Super PAC Cancels Minnesota 3rd District Reservations http://bit.ly/2dtJatn via @sfpathe
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buccaneer morgan

yes, they've gone full vizzini, that's why the downsides their us unit,

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/29/trump-angela-merkel-favorite-world-leader-hillary-clinton

peter

OK that's just plain stupid. DT better get out of this slump he's in.

Threadkiller

Slump?

peter

since the debate he's in a slump, imho

Miss Marple the Deplorable

peter,

What in the heck are you talking about? He's been in rallies, appearances, and interviews. His speeches have been strong.

What slump?

Truthbetold5

MM

You really are clueless

sbw

I feel warm inside. Received this handwritten note in the mail today:

Just a note to let you know that your book has joined the select group of books that I have read and then, in later years, read again. It is as apropos in the 2016 election again as it was regarding that of 2008. I savor each chapter.

Beasts of England

A dating story from Beasts:

A buddy of mine at the lake told me earlier this week that he had a girl I needed to meet - I said 'sure'. So he arranged for us to hit the water yesterday afternoon, and we did. Just a stunning young lady, and we had really big fun on the water. When we rolled in, I suggested that we have dinner sometime. She said 'Let's do it tomorrow!' Which was surprising. As much as I - quite frankly - am pleased with myself, this babe can do much better than me...

We hit the boat tonight for a sunset happy hour, and then dinner al fresco at The Rock House. I've never laughed and smiled so much in my life; but I'm still thinking that she's just happy to have some dude with a nice boat and positive cash flow. (I'm not naïve about the dating world.)

When I walked her back to the door- no sex, not even grubbing - I told her how much I enjoyed it, and asked her if we could go out again. She said: 'Tomorrow afternoon!' How about that? I haven't felt this way in years. Life is funny that way...

Nytol

peter

Miss Marple, I haven't seen the rallies. I just know from what I am seeing hearing and reading that he is on the defensive and not arguing the really great issues that are all laid out for him, the email coverup, the Clinton Foundation influence scandal, the utter incompetency of her Senatorial and SOS career, and her health, instead we seem to be focusing on who is more misogynistic Donald or Bill. I'm sorry for stating it, but that is how I feel. If you are more optimistic, I am glad for you, but you weren't here in 2012, when everyone was posting that Obama was going to be shitcanned.

RattlerGator

Miss Marple, some of these folks refuse to read Don Surber. To their detriment.

Trump's flying high, peter, but do keep fretting. Surber is absolutely correct on a range of things. A big tell is the New York Times with something of a disparaging piece on Ohio as a fading bellwether.

They are hoping like hell this is true but more fearful it is not. Seriously fearful. Some might say deplorably fearful.

RattlerGator

Is it really that hard for people to distinguish 2016 from 2012? Really? In the midst of a campaign that has freaked out Republicans and Democrats in a way I've never seen (and neither have any of you) . . . the fallback is to bring up 2012?

That is bizarre to me.

buccaneer morgan

one often goes back to the last war, but the milieu has changed as from the first world war to the second, the feiler fast hypothesis,

Truthbetold5

We see the lesser of two evils all the time RG

Art in Newport

.. the fallback is to bring up 2012? ..

Good point!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

peter,

So what you are telling me is that you are getting your impressions from 2 things:

1. Mainstream media, which wouldn't report on Trump saying those things for one minute

2. Posts here which are from people who have been discouraged by the stuff in the press.

You haven't watched any rallies, so you don't know what he is saying. You only know what you are hearing and not hearing through other filters.

I don't know how to help you.

Yes, it could be possible that all of those rallies with 20,000 people mean nothing and we are all fooled into thinking we will win.

My personal position on this is that if we do not win, it is because of massive vote fraud that cannot be overcome. If that is so, the Republic is lost and I think we will have anarchy and civil war within a couple of years.

However, what I think is most likely is that you are under spiritual attack, which I discussed this morning. This is a real thing which happens, whether you are a believer or not. I felt much better after going to church and praying for the nation and for the protection of the Trump family. You ight consider this.

It is no coincidence that Twitter was full of negative stories this morning, and that several people, normally cheerful, came on this site and were very negative and worried. Pastor Scott in Detroit warned Mr. Trump that he would be under demonic attack. That is why they gifted him with a special Bible and prayer shawl.

Anyway, try not to get down. It isn't that Trump isn't saying the things you want. He is, in almost every speech. I post links of every live stream. Most of those convert to videos after the rally is ended, so you can watch them at your convenience.

The next rally is tomorrow in the afternoon in Novi, Michigan. I will post a link tomorrow afternoon when it is available.

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