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November 28, 2016

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Dave (in MA)

Meanwhile, Slate seems to like Shapiro.

Captain Hate

Bannon has an amazing resume of accomplishments. My younger Hatette even said he managed the biosphere in Arizona while she was there as an undergrad (she said he did a poor job but I figure she was influenced by a bunch of wacademics whining that he didn't rubber stamp everything).

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

If you're basing "mainstreaming" on Baby Face Shapiro's mewling and puking from his changing table I'd recommend a slightly more credible source like maybe Erwin Corey.

Dave (in MA)

Would that be World's Foremost Authority Irwin Corey?

DebinNC

Back when I occasionally listened to Hugh Hewitt, he often had on Irvine Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinsky to play foil. I don't think a loonier moonbat than that Erwin exists.

Dave (in MA)

Now it sounds as though the active shooter/machete attack with multiple attackers was a guy who attacked people with his car and a large kitchen knife.

-peter

The crackling of the flames in Hell are making it hard for Fidel to hear all the accolades

Account Deleted

Local news coverage on Castro's death was nauseating. That he held power for 50 years was whitewashed with "Castro *improved* the education and health care systems of his country."

I knew it. Fidel was an Emo-crat!

Account Deleted

God bless Buckeye Nation.

Account Deleted

Out in my car this morning, local talk station featuring Rush on... reporting on CNN fake news---

1) the Russians hacked the US election;

2) 80 per cent of those "polled" say that Republicans should incorporate "at least some" Emo-crat policies into the platform of the new administration.

Check and check.

Emo-proggos drive like shitake by the way. Especially in the morning as they are getting ginned up by "Pacifica" (that's mezzkin for "peaceful") radio --- the local NPR buzzkill station.

henry

More upbeat stuff from a surprising source: the Milwaukee Urinal Central. Annual reminder:

Nationally, no state has lost more of its labor union identity since 2011, a Journal Sentinel analysis found.

Now for Trump to surpass Walker in skull collection.

Captain Hate

Radio Pacifica is toxic even by state media standards. They make Bill Moyers seem like a right wing philanthropist.

Account Deleted

Hope and Change to the bitter end:


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/28/snuggies-shakespeare-top-govt-wasteful-spending/

clarice

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/11/27/the-historic-facts-about-illegal-alien-voters-full-research-pdf/#more-125026

lyle

Now for Trump to surpass Walker in skull collection.

Hear, hear!

maryrose

Repeat on this thread.
MM:
Pope Francis is infallible in faith and morals.
No previous popes make comebacks.

maryrose

Popes don't have comebacks because it is ascertained at the time of voting the Holy Spirit is helping them decide.
Also probably would not get the required number of votes to win the papacy.
There has to be a reason the current Pope cannot confine.
Pope Francis looks pretty healthy to me.

maryrose

Should be continue.

Account Deleted

Thanks, Clarice. The full study is a scribd download. Free month to sub, then download. Worth it. No credit card required.

henry

Never in doubt, Stein sues in Dane County. That is Madison, land o lefty hack judges.

henry

I will observe that a hand recount fo r no reason at all is total insanity... and that Team Clintoon is still backing this (until they toss Stein under the bus).

art in newport

Poster on Reddit says this:

..Students outside due to fire alarm. Car then crashed into the crowd. Then an individual got out with a knife/machete and started attaching people. 9 injured 1 critical. Attacker dead. Heard over the police scanner the car used in the attack was registered to a Malik Mohammed ..

maryrose

So Stein isn't going to go quietly.
I guess she will have to be publicly humiliated then.

Account Deleted

More precisely, the Pope is infallible when speaking "ex cathedra."

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/what-does-the-term-ex-cathedra-mean-and-where-did-the-catholic-church-come-up-with-it

Special rundown for the underinformed on matters Catolico...

The Pope is deemed infallible ex cathedra for the believers of the Catholic Church, not "all of Christianity" (whatever that is) which includes historically protestant (Lutheran, Anglican, Presbyterian, Methodist) denominations.

Protestants reject papal authority. The "christian" moniker is used as a blade for cutting many ways against papal authority; perhaps the most effective is the "I listen to Jesus directly not the Pope" mantra.

Then there is the faux "unified front" crowd who believe the christian label gives their specific creed strength by association; and, it plasters over significant disagreements over dogmatic concerns and administrative profit-sharing (okay the profit sharing comment is from the Isle of Sark).

It's also a fav label by the one-size-fits-all atheists who reject the existence of God.

Ennahow, the bottom line--- whenever Pope Cha Cha Cha speaks to the press he isn't imbued with infallibility just because he opens his pie hole.

Account Deleted

"So Stein isn't going to go quietly.
I guess she will have to be publicly humiliated then.
"

maryrose: Or at least until she closes on her beachfront property somewhere a la the moral and ethical Bernardo Occupado.

Dave (in MA)

If you had "Mohammad" in the Ohio State knife attack pool, you won.

lyle

I had "Mohamed," instead. Is that close enough?

Dave (in MA)

ding

henry

Somali national.... that resettlement thing I guess.

Account Deleted

Mahomet? It's a leaner, yes?

lyle

Clearly "Mohamed" was radicalized by Trump's election and all you h8rs who voted for him!

Account Deleted

You can take the pirate out of Somalia but ya can't take the pirate out of the Somali. ---Forrest Gump

Captain Hate

Don't forget these guys, KK:

http://peopleof.oureverydaylife.com/orthodox-catholics-follow-pope-8765.html

Account Deleted

Captain Hate--- right you are.

Frau Edith Steingehirn

Dave (in MA) - He's already meeting his 72 camels in paradise. Will we at least get to see his grades at OSU?

Dave (in MA)

There's no known link to terrorism, so it was probably Trump's fault.

DebinNC

Last February another machete wielding Mohammad attacked diners in a Columbus, OH restaurant.

lyle

so it was probably Trump's fault.

"Probably?"

Guarandamntee you if Rodham had won this would NOT have happened, pal! ;)

Appalled

maryrose at 1:19:

Stein is building a mailing list for future Green Party activities. It's in her interest (in the same way it was in Trump's interest) to refuse to give in.

Ignatz:

Let's see what Trump does, and who he panders to as President. The r-word ought to mean something, and the Democrats and PC warriors have ensured that it really does not.

Old Lurker

Did he buy that at an unregulated Machete Show, Deb?

maryrose

KK
When the Pope speaks about forgiving those who have had abortions we have to listen as Catholics.
Please don't use the word pie- hole in regard to His Holiness.
I find it offensive.
Henry:
I love how when the action is happening in Wisconsin you are right there on the scene to keep us informed.
I still remember the updates on vote count during the Prosser election.

The Gipper Lives

If horses wore pants, I'd call it a pantload of horseshit.

In DogWhistle TimesSpeak, alt-right=right, white supremacist=white, racist=Republican, anti-Semite=Bibi fan, nativist=American, etc.

Screw the Times. They don't control the Narrative anymore. They can barely make it to the bathroom on time. That's why so much of it ends up in the paper.

The only Supremacist threat to America is Islamo-Supremicism, and the Times is AWOL--Absent With chronic Onset Leftism.

Captain Hate

Frau, I think pre Zippy wacademia put a lock on all grades when it was revealed that Lurch's grades were "essentially the same" *cough* slightly lower *cough* than GWB's. Since the start of Ear Leader's reign they've dispensed with sending out transcripts since there's no evidence any kollidge graduates have been hired in this wonderful recovery.

Buckeye

The Somalis are giving C'lumbus almost as bad a rep as B1G football referees.

DebinNC

The msm's "Don't believe your lying eyes" gambit is kaput.

windansea

CNN etc were all set to go with 24/7 active shooter story, gun violence etc

oops, machete wielding Somali pulls fire alarm and then drives car through crowd leaving building

Back to Trump bashing

Thomas Collins

Appalled, Woodstock Jill doesn't have the clout to raise the funds for this charade on her own. This is a Team Hill operation the goal of which is to capture the Oval Office for her. Woodstock Jill is the front. No doubt she's happy to serve as the front. There is undoubtedly $$$$ in it for her.

James D

CNN etc were all set to go with 24/7 active shooter story, gun violence etc

Saw the same on FB. The first post I saw about it had a call for gun control in the very first comment.

Thomas Collins

Is there any talk in Wisocnsin, henry or GUS, of the Wisconsin legislature putting an end to this charade by appointing electors for Trump notwithstanding when the recount ends? Or is the feeling that there is no need to do that unless Woodstock Jill the Straw also secures recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan?

Account Deleted

"KK When the Pope speaks about forgiving those who have had abortions we have to listen as Catholics. Please don't use the word pie- hole in regard to His Holiness. I find it offensive."

maryrose--- I'm a baptized practicing Catholic. When the Pope speaks ex cathedra on abortion, forgiveness etc, I *adhere* to it as him being the extension of God's authority. When he equates christian traditions with communism, he's opening his mouth and sound is coming out of it like any *politician* trying to curry favor with, I dunno, let's say Chinese Communists.

Truly sorry that my sarcasm offended you. Let's hope that Catholics will see fit to register discontent with the Pope's "politics." (Can I say that?)

clarice

http://www.wsj.com/articles/pelosi-gets-one-right-1480357625?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb

Beasts of England

Mohammed? Unexpectedly, amirite?

windansea

One Ohio Mosque Has Been at the Center of SIX Terror Cases

The website for Masjid Omar Ibn El Khattab, just a mile from the Ohio State University campus, proclaims itself "the Muslim Heart of Columbus." And yet the mosque, described as one of the most ideologically hardline in the city, has grabbed the media spotlight once again: former attendees were recently reported as having joined the Islamic State (ISIS) in Syria.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/06/08/ohio-mosque-a-turnstile-for-terrorism/?singlepage=true

make that seven

henry

I haven't heard anything TC. The sense from the Gov is Stein is wasting taxpayer funds, the sense from everyone (including the Elections Board) is the recount won't change the results, Hans Von Spakovsky said on the radio now judge would give Stein a hand recount anyway (no harm to her since zero chance of a recounting getting her the electoral college votes).

OneWisconsinNow (the local Soros / OFA group) likes it because they can complain about voter ID (as if the zero people reporting a lack of access to ID as a reason for not voting are compelling somewhere).

The legislature has to tiptoe (assembly districts "unconstitutional" per some hack judge... WI may not have a legislature right now?)

Thomas Collins

I was wondering whether Kellyanne Conway would escape Trump's wrath for trying to sabotage Romney.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3978496/Transition-insider-says-Trump-furious-Kellyanne-Conway-attacking-Mitt-Romney-TV-Morning-Joe-host-attacks-political-children-carping-rivalries.html

However Trump feels about Romney, I can't imagine Trump being happy about Conway's freelancing.

Thomas Collins

If it's just a Wisconsing hand recount, it probably won't matter, henry. But if Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan all do hand recounts, it could be a chaotic electoral college vote.

Appalled

TC:

I really disagree a lot. A team Hill operation would have struck much sooner. Hillary joined in this thing because she's trying to keep her viability for races in the future, and to the Dem base, giving up now would be treachery.

Thomas Collins

Apologies to henry and GUS. I misspelled W-I-S-C-O-N-S-I-N twice! Feel free to spell the Bay State M-A-D-D-A-S-H-U-S-H-I-T-Z and the Ocean State R-O-D-I-E-L-A-N in retaliation!

Account Deleted

The OSU slaughter is business as usual under the One and Only Islam.

I've prompted more head explosions here in the San Fransicko Bay Area with information contained in this stellar work of non-fiction about the One and Only Islam and jihad:

Catastrophic Failure- Blindfolding America in the Face of Jihad, by Stephen Coughlin.

Summary: After the events of September 11, 2001, Stephen Coughlin was mobilized from his private sector career to the Intelligence Directorate at the Joint Chiefs of Staff to work in Targeting.

Thus began his education in terrorism. In the years that followed, Coughlin earned recognition as the Pentagon’s leading expert on the Islamic-based doctrines motivating jihadi groups that confront America. He came into demand as a trainer and lecturer at leading commands and senior service staff institutions, including the National Defense University, the Army and Navy War Colleges, the Marine Corps-Quantico, the State Department, and the FBI.

So effective were his presentations that some in the special operations community dubbed them “Red Pill” briefings, a reference to an iconic scene in The Matrix. It’s an apt metaphor: Once the facts and doctrines are properly explained and understood, there is no going back.

This was more than our enemies – and, it seems, our leaders – could tolerate.

Beginning in 2011, the Muslim Brotherhood convinced the White House to ban Coughlin and put an end to his briefings. The move was in keeping with shariah concepts of slander that seek to blindfold America to certain realities that render us defenseless against a threat made existential by the very ignorance it gets our leaders to enforce.

In times like this – when the White House’s former counterterrorism strategist can declare it unconstitutional to allow national security analysts to look to Islam to understand jihad – there’s an urgent need to pull away the blindfold so we can see and confront the threat.

Such is the goal of Catastrophic Failure. The book, drawn heavily from Coughlin’s “outlawed” briefings, is a comprehensive assessment of Islamic law and doctrine known to form the basis of hostile threat strategies directed against America and the West, the challenges they present, and the ideologically induced breakdown of fact-based decisionmaking that is nothing short of professional malpractice by our national security elites.

Old Lurker

Is anyone besides TC certain that the Trump-Conway-Romney show was real?

I'm not.

Thomas Collins

Not publicly, Appalled. Team Clinton no doubt has been weighing the pros and cons behind the scenes. If Team Hill didn't want this, it could have come out with a strong statement to Stein to shut it down a week ago. I suspect Team Hill was waiting for Trump to fall flat on his face as POTUS-elect. That hasn't happened. This is the last gasp.

James D

TC, I don't believe that report for one second.

Any story that quotes anonymous sources "close to President Trump" is automatically suspect at this point.

Between the woman who's a longtime political professional, who's very media-savvy, and who ran a brilliant Presidential campaign; and some anonymous sources dishing dirt for their own personal agendas, I know who I'm going to side with.

Captain Hate

Woodstock Jill is the front. No doubt she's happy to serve as the front. There is undoubtedly $$$$ in it for her.

Green, green and more long green.

Beasts of England

I'm not sure how credible the source is, but someone at Althouse claiming to be an attorney (or in Levon Helm's band) said that the recount won't prevent the states from certifying electors. He said federal law superseded same in regard to recounts and presidential elections.

I suspect that's accurate or each candidate would demand recounts in every state they lost, and we'd never have an Electoral College seated...

Thomas Collins

OL, Trump wouldn't have given Romney a very respectful hearing in NJ and then have Conway undercut him. Trump knows he is going to need Romney GOPers to support or at least not to obstruct his agenda. It's one thing to avoid sucking up to Duke and Duke GOPers. It's another thing to alienate needlessly people when you have at best a 53-47 Senate majority (and that only happens if the GOPer wins Louisiana and Manchin switches).

Old Lurker

Also I do not have a clue what Hillary is thinking. If she had planned a Gore, it would have started Nov 9 if not before, and they would have planted evidence in advance.

It's just what they do when the plan is to steal something.

Not having done that, and after waiting for Trump to imply a free pass on investigation and indictment which sure appeared to be a magnanimous peace gesture, to then stick a stick into Trump's face this late looks suicidal to me.

Or she and they are nuts.

Thomas Collins

James D, I'm going to side with the notion that there is no political benefit to Trump putting Romney front and center as a possible Secretary of State and then having Conway undercut him publicly.

derwill, yet another adorable, irredeemable deplorable

This is an explanation, including direct quotes from the pertinent state statute, of the hurdles Stein faces in PA. Short-hand version--the cut-off date for requesting a recount was 5 days after the election, so she missed that deadline. Today's deadline is not for filing a recount, but for contesting the election--basically claiming that the election was conducted illegally. If I'm reading it right, in order to contest the election, 5 voters must assert UNDER OATH that the election was illegal and submit prima facie evidence of such in court. Given that President Obama himself has asserted that the federal government has found no evidence that the Russians hacked the election, I don't know what "evidence' they could come up with to support a claim under oath (and risk five years in prison for perjury) that the election was illegal.

http://janderresearch.blogspot.fi/2016/11/there-will-be-no-recount-in.html?m=1

Thomas Collins

I hope so, BOE. Time to put this to bed.

Buckeye

Masjid Omar Ibn El Khattab is about a mile from my home as the crow flies.

It is in an area that has changed from student housing to a muzzie hellhole.

What is interesting is that three new hotels and a couple currently under construction are within a block or two.

Can't imagine all of this will be a good for business.

Thomas Collins

Looks as if Trump is meeting Romney again.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/politics/trump-meeting-petraeus-romney-corker/

clarice

OL, I vote nuts.

Beasts of England

I'm not so sure, OL. The entire left was 100% certain that she would win and never even considered the possibility of a loss. When the smoked cleared the Wednesday after the election I doubt they could even process the result. I'm sure it took them a while longer to fully appreciate that their party was entirely removed from power. When that sunk in, they may have realized that there's no short-term downside to them trying any stunt.

And they're nuts. :)

Old Lurker

I'm not so sure about your 2:40 either, TC. I can see Trump being able to get the support he needs from GOPe at a lower price (lesser concessions) than giving the SOS plum seat to Romney and still benefiting by humiliating the most sneaky, namecalling, and disloyal of the GOPe leaders (Romney). In many circles seeking peace from the troops while cutting off the head of their leader is a time honored act of leadership.

Old Lurker

Nuts is my guess too, Clarice.

Dave (in MA)

Had he been from the El Kabong mosque, he'd have hit them with his guitar.

Fresh Air, deplorably

I'm not sure I understand where Guiliani stands. If we assume he was the most loyal of Trump's campaign squad, save perhaps Pence, then Rudy should be able to pretty much name his position. Does Trump really fear Rand Paul will hold up the nomination?

And Petraeus really shouldn't be anywhere near the administration if Hillary is going to be prosecuted.

clarice

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/28/wikileaks-releases-more-than-half-a-million-us-diplomatic-cables/

Buckeye

Dave (in MA)

I think I may have stumbled into the El Kabong mosque some 45 years ago on campus.

Pretty sure it isn't there anymore:)

Old Lurker

Beasts, I just think the Dems and for sure the Clintons always, always have a Plan B for stealing what they don't get fair and square. If so, then the delay from 2:30AM to the next morning, then the extra hour before she came out to concede was spent looking at the Plan B with her thugs and deciding whether to use it or not. In the end, the smart move for staying out of jail and for keeping all the loot was to smile and concede.

Afterall, at 2:30 Podesta kept Plan B alive by shouting "this is not over...get some sleep and come back in the morning".

In the absolute absence of even a single instance of fraud being raised in two weeks, waking from her slumber this late to push the button for Plan B is just, well, nuts.

DebinNC

Beginning in 2011, the Muslim Brotherhood convinced the White House to ban Coughlin and put an end to his briefings

I think I read Trump intends to add the MB to the terror watch list.

Janet ~ an obnoxious Trump supporter

In DogWhistle TimesSpeak, alt-right=right, white supremacist=white, racist=Republican, anti-Semite=Bibi fan, nativist=American, etc.

Screw the Times. They don't control the Narrative anymore.

Wonderful, TGL!!

Old Lurker

The one place where TC might have a point is if Trump is preparing for hand recounts to deny them both 270 votes on Dec 19 so the House and Senate are forced to pick. If that happened, having Romney already on his team and nice words having been exchanged between them, would take any wind out of the sails in the House to elect anyone other than Trump.

Sandy Daze



So Stein isn't going to go quietly.
I guess she will have to be publicly humiliated then.

Posted by: maryrose | November 28, 2016 at 01:19 PM

Public humiliation is one approach.

There are others...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If stien were really interested in a true vote, she might be demanding recount in states that were barely won by hrc.. As it is, only going after states won by PE45, she exposes her obvious agenda, being a shill4hill.

Did someone here link this earlier: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html

Intriguing.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

re PE45, KAC, and romny. The appointment of (or non-appointment) of romny to a position in the cabinet is the tell. For my money, I want the GOPe crushed.

Deplorables: Hao! Dai ye! We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?

GOPe: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.

Deplorables: Wrong! Conway! What is best in life?

Conway: Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.

Deplorables: That is good! That is good.

Theo

FWIW, here is my guess about Rodham and the recounts:

She was dragged into this. Her people have checked this out and know that there is zero chance of overturning the election. They have said so, basically. Obama is totally against the recounts as he does not want this on his legacy. So Rodham never wanted this and has done nothing to push this.

BUT, the more unrealistic dead enders of the left are willing to grasp at any straw and throw money at it. Stein is perfectly happy to take their money.

This put Rodham in a tough spot. She wants to "keep her options open for 2020." She cannot afford to look to the loony left that she abandoned the fight. She cannot afford to piss off Obama and the sensible Democrats who know that this is a waste of time and money. So she is playing it half way all around. She did not start this, but since it is happening anyway, she is joining in while making it clear that they think nothing is going to change.

She is trying to be the Freddie Krueger of politics, constantly arising from the dead.

anonamom

I'm in the "seek peace from the troops by cutting off the head of their leader" here, and I don't have a problem thinking this is all theater on their part.

Trump has Romney return for a second visit, then says "sorry, my supporters just can't tolerate you after your disloyalty."

No doubt after that of what is expected from his Cabinet and administration.

clarice

She has no 2020 option--she's dead dead dead. She went along with this to poop on Trump's parade and undermine his claim to a mandate--just as her freakazoids keep raising the popular vote--knowing full well only the loonies think that means anything.

DebinNC

Trump v. Conway is good cop-bad cop kabuki imo.

Fresh Air, deplorably

Hillary's options for 2020 are embalming or cremation.

clarice

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/11/trump_the_times_and_the_coming_ecoapocalypse.html#.WDyQSnUCFUU.facebook

derwill, yet another adorable, irredeemable deplorable

I was living in the SF Bay Area during the 2000 election--the day the Supreme Court stopped the re-re-re-recount in FL was the day that the liberals there completely lost their minds. It was the day they went from disagreeing with conservatives to wanting to round us all up and put us in re-educaton camps.

I think this whole current recount thing is simply a means of convincing the useful idiots that the Russians stole the election for Trump. When the recount efforts either fail to take place or fail to change the results, the meme will be that the Russians got away with it. It's nothing more than a means of keeping the anti-Trump hatred that dwells within the breasts of the Leftists' foot-soldiers and professional agitators alive and boiling.

Also, it undermines people's faith in democracy, and that is always an end-goal of the Left.

Old Lurker

Fresh Air. You forgot the leaf grinder option.

Sandy Daze

I would be content if romne were offered a spot heading the VA or the business guy (number 2) at the pentagon. Let him work his business turn-around skills in either place (my pref is for VA) and then, after four years, if he is a team player and actually, you know, gets the job done, he could, just possibly, be officially rehabilitated and offered a position more to his self-perceived station in life.

Dues, he's gotta stay in the wilderness for awhile before I'd let him in.


The GOP is dead to me. If PE45 gives romny a plum position, the master who crushed the opposition will not have solidified his tremendous victory over the GOPe--similar to Gulf War One, he will have failed to close the door, and will have allowed the GOPe to escape to Baghdad, that they might live to fight another day.

The Highway of Death should have no exit for the GOPe. I want KAC in the Apache taking care of business.

lyle

I really can't believe I read someone say something about "keeping her options open for 2020." Good gawd, utterly deranged.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

The Pope doesn't like pie?

Another strike agin him.

jimmyk

Where some perceive racism and nativism, others see a different -ism: opportunism.

So the Times is feigning shock at opportunism among political operatives? They never saw that with the Clintons and their gang (Carville, Podesta, et al) or Obama and his? In any case, Bannon seems much more idealistic in his own way than the Clinton/Obama crowd, especially Hillary who seemed to be entirely about personal enrichment for the past 20 years.

DebinNC

I want KAC in the Apache taking care of business.

lol and amen, Sandy Daze!

Jack is Back!

As I noted on the previous thread, both Kaine and Kasich deplored the gun violence in the OSU attack and called for steeper controls.

Now they want to take the guns away from our police forces.

The only gun used was by the cop who shot Mahommed dead.

jimmyk

Any story that quotes anonymous sources "close to President Trump" is automatically suspect at this point.

Probably the same sources that two weeks ago described the transition as a 'knife fight.' No agenda there, nosiree.

lyle

Hi, derwill. I sent you an email last week.

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