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December 15, 2016

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Gotta get 'em all.

Gotta find that Pokemon.

Dave (in MA)

Fauxcahontas got herself put on the Armed Services Committee.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/12/15/warren-gets-spot-on-armed-services-committee

If that doesn't make you feel safe, what could?

henry

Maybe get her hooked on that FUBAR stuff TM posted about.

Captain Hate

I guess idiot Martin Sheen thinks that because he played a President on tv, on a show that only leftists watched because it was pretty much about Slick minus being a sexual predator, that gives him a soap box from which to lecture the electoral college. Maybe he should reflect on what a terrible father he was to raise such an asshole of a son and STFU.

Buckeye

When heroin starts looking like the safe, prudent product our War on Drugs has reached a sorry state.

Unadulterated heroin is rarer than hen's teeth. Cutting with fentanyl is now the normal course of action.

Chinese payback for the Opium Wars.

rse

To carry on from the other thread, my first job was to clean out the saw dust and blocks and other debris from houses my dad built. I got paid 15 cents an hour and he took out the cost of lunch. It is no wonder I looked for a lucrative profession.

Later I graduated to painting parking lot lines in shopping centers at the crack of dawn when no one was there. Again manual labor taught me I liked making a living through thinking. It also taught me there was no chore I was too good to do when called for.

henry

I was a lifeguard at a local pool. Boring, with lots of clean this, that and the other thing. The got lucky with a job at the Chrysler plant on the line. Big pay, stupid work. College looked attractive all of a sudden.

Buckeye

To carry on from the other thread, my first job was to clean out the saw dust and blocks and other debris from houses my dad built.

My BIL has been building custom homes since we got out of school 40 years ago. When he first started, I got conned a few weekends to "give him a hand".

I remember the sawdust piles well, particularly where he had a cutoff saw set up for framing.

Came to appreciate the value of a good shop vac in a hurry.

Donald

Or they ate a whole cookie.

From What I understand that can screw you right up. Not that I would know anything about that sort of thing.

Donald

My first job was curb waiter at Steak and Shake. I was literally making more money than My dad who was whatever the top grade was at Lockheed.

I could also buy beer when I got off work at a tiny town that doesn't exist anymore 24 hours a day. That didn't work out well.

henry

Obamabot at FCC to step down. This is the guy that gave away the internet. Don let him leave the country before a good FBI look see and IRS audit.

=======

Good to see you Donald. I remember the good ol' days in Norway. What a long time ago that was.

Cecil Turner

Brooklyn zombies! Does that go before electoral college, or after fake news?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Wasn't Hillary's GHQ in Brooklyn?
Just sayin.

James D

Yeah, Ig. Can't help but think there might be some connection there.

Buckeye

Wasn't Hillary's GHQ in Brooklyn?
Just sayin.

Is curb diving a symptom??

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Regarding the technology meeting yesterday, the question was why were all 3 of the Trump children in the room.

Commenter on Treehouse says she thinks those 3 have been trained to watch body language and other unspoken cues. She also pointed out that in photos of the meeting all 3 are looking in different directions. HA!

henry

Miss M, the seating chart had the SV types split into quadrants by sets of Team Trump, so that cuts their side conversations and note passing as well.

James D

Henry, mm...

But, but, but...Trump is a moron! A Cheeto-headed imbecile! He has no strategy! He has no plans! He's ignorant and uneducated and dumb! He could never come up with any kind of smart approach for his meetings!

It must be true, because I keep reading it in all the newspapers and hearing it on CNN and the network news.

henry

JamesD, I especially enjoyed Bezos and Page looking uncomfortable in their corner (as put on Drudge). Note that all the tech execs were placed in corners, not centered at sides or the ends of the table.

Buckeye

But, but, but...Trump is a moron! A Cheeto-headed imbecile! He has no strategy! He has no plans! He's ignorant and uneducated and dumb! He could never come up with any kind of smart approach for his meetings!

Stole the words right outta my mouth JamesD. Lot of people getting punked by the idiot.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

henry, JamesD.,

Why is it that the super-smart journalists never notice this stuff?

My window for service is between 3 and 8 PM.

I am not feeling good and I am cold and sick of this.

Going to go make some hot soup which will warm me and maybe make my stomach feel better.

henry

hope you and your furnace feel better soon MissM!

rse

I noticed when trump took melania to the meetings on capitol hill she seemed to be the one watching the people so she could pass on what she noticed. I think trump likes to have people he can thoroughly trust watching the people when they are known snakes trying to pretend to suck up to him.

Account Deleted

The enemy of my enemy is still an alpha hotel

http://regated.com/2016/12/cnn-uses-black-professor-racially-attack-kanye-west/

JM Hanes

Ignatz:

Thanks for the encouraging Wretchard link on the previous thread. Conservatives' preference for individualism and independence has often seemed a terminal disadvantage when confronting the lockstepping leftist horde. They are so efficient at delivering talking points and converging on targets. Ironic, isn't it that the left always frets over authoritarianism on the right? Things have to get really bad before rightwing loners will actually get together and come up with a plan. Staying together ex post facto is even rarer. Wretchard's metaphor is a welcome reminder that that can also be a strength:

Programmers know the rationale for loose coupling "an approach to interconnecting the components in a system ... so that those components ... depend on each other to the least extent practicable" is adaptability.  It can absorb change because elements are isolated from changes to some other element.  Each node has enough individual autonomy to operate on its own even with the network down.
Wretchard notes that "this architecture resembles the federal system," but it reminded me of what Michael Yon, I believe, wrote about the US Military from Iraq. He observed that one of the unique advantages of how US troops were schooled and deployed, was that even in a unit as small as a tank crew, the leader of that unit was trained and empowered to make judgment calls and take autonomous action, if necessary, rather than being expected to wait for orders from above in unexpected circumstances. That's one reason I'm glad to see a boots-on-the-ground general, not a career bureaucrat, as Secretary of Defense, someone who seems likely to ask what happens, and how do we operate, when all the sophisticated, interconnected, tech systems go down?

Wretchard gives Putin a bit too much credit for jamming the system in this case — I believe his role has been wildly overblown by the Democrats themselves — but I can see how the Beastie Boy sabotage scenario was too delicious to resist.

Stephanie despicable me

Carried over..

My fist job was babysitting for neighborhood families, then I worked at McD's until I got food poisoning from bad Big Mac sauce (along with many customers), then I went to work for a lumber/hardware company. I saved enough working there to want to invest in gold which had just gone back on the market, and my dad wouldn't let me. When it hit $900 an ounce I rubbed it in his nose; because, I ended up spending the $1200 I had saved on clothes and partying. I still remind him of that to this day.

I also worked at a movie theater when Star Wars came out and also when Grease came out. Star Wars was showing on both screens starting at 10 am and the last showing was a 2 am start... and we had lines 24 hours a day. And lots of weirdos in costume and on their nth time to see it. We had to dress in costume for Grease, so I made a lovely poodle skirt and wore bobby socks and saddle shoes. I can still recite both movies word for word... :(

Account Deleted

Fauxcahontas, aka Chief Cool Arrow, will get her head handed to her in a Trump administration.

She's insinuated herself onto that committee to protect the castrating sequestration cuts over the next eight years amounting to a half billion when the "Budget Control Act of 2011" kicks into high gear.

20 blue chip defense contracting companies, including one of the largest anywhere in the world- Raytheon, in Cool Arrow's home state.

Cool Arrow is the Senate's version of commie alpha hotel Rep Barbara Lee, the one woman wrecking ball of the SFO Bay Area's defense-based economic sector.

the generallyistic deplorable rich

The Smart Take, Hot Take™ from the blindingly white Vox ...

>>>Clinton’s campaign did have a real news problem, but the problem was with the real news coverage — coverage that dwelled overwhelmingly on a bullshit email server scandal, devoted far fewer resources to investigating Trump’s shady foundation than Clinton’s lifesaving one, largely ignored Trump’s financial conflicts of interest, and almost entirely avoided discussion of the policy stakes in the campaign.<<<

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/15/13955108/fake-news-2016

Wonder when he is going to expend the effort to track down the fake news of "global warming" and "diversity is strength"?

the generallyistic deplorable rich

Good comment JM Hanes on that Wrechard piece.

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first jobs?

JM Hanes

Thanks, rich. Even on an off day, Wretchard is worth reading, so I'm always glad for a link when he's got a new column up.

Account Deleted

My first job was stringing a two mile barbed-wire fence in CA's Palomares Canyon. 8 strands high, six by six inch 8 footer posts every 40 feet. Dry poured. Lotta holes. Metal T posts driven into ground by hand every 10 feet. Took two months.

Had to clear 20 foot swath through scrub oak, manazanita and snakes. The winner got crucified.

Caught a bad case of poison oak second day. First stop every morning was the 7-11 to pick up a couple bottles of rubbing alcohol to pour on my shirt once the sweatin started. Learned how to drive a stick shift. A Willys on hills. Super clutch. A simpler time indeed. Summer of 1971.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrqMdja4eYs

Account Deleted

A Leftard's definition of "bullshit"...please. A "bullshit email server scandal?"

33,000 deleted emails about Chelsea's wedding, Hamrod's yoga-that-never happened.... Huma's Weiner problem?

National security?

Cecil Turner

He observed that one of the unique advantages of how US troops were schooled and deployed, was that even in a unit as small as a tank crew, the leader of that unit was trained and empowered to make judgment calls and take autonomous action, if necessary, rather than being expected to wait for orders from above in unexpected circumstances.

On a similar note, I'm slugging through VDH's Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise to Western Power. The blurb reads:

Looking beyond popular explanations such as geography or superior technology, Hanson argues that it is in fact Western culture and values–the tradition of dissent, the value placed on inventiveness and adaptation, the concept of citizenship–which have consistently produced superior arms and soldiers. Offering riveting battle narratives and a balanced perspective that avoids simple triumphalism, Carnage and Culture demonstrates how armies cannot be separated from the cultures that produce them and explains why an army produced by a free culture will always have the advantage. [emphasis added]
I never really considered ancient Athens to be an examplar of free society, but VDH makes a compelling case, and in any event it's a fun read (though the first 200pp at least).

Cecil Turner

He observed that one of the unique advantages of how US troops were schooled and deployed, was that even in a unit as small as a tank crew, the leader of that unit was trained and empowered to make judgment calls and take autonomous action, if necessary, rather than being expected to wait for orders from above in unexpected circumstances.

On a similar note, I'm slugging through VDH's Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise to Western Power. The blurb reads:

Looking beyond popular explanations such as geography or superior technology, Hanson argues that it is in fact Western culture and values–the tradition of dissent, the value placed on inventiveness and adaptation, the concept of citizenship–which have consistently produced superior arms and soldiers. Offering riveting battle narratives and a balanced perspective that avoids simple triumphalism, Carnage and Culture demonstrates how armies cannot be separated from the cultures that produce them and explains why an army produced by a free culture will always have the advantage. [emphasis added]
I never really considered ancient Athens to be an examplar of free society, but VDH makes a compelling case, and in any event it's a fun read (though the first 200pp at least).

Old Lurker

Anybody heard this on the news?

Me neither.

http://townhall.com/columnists/edklein/2016/12/14/comey-to-trump-the-russians-didnt-influence-the-election-n2259827

sbw

No one will be surprised that mine was a 100 paper route at age 12 when I had no clue about accounting and to whom to deliver.

That was followed at 16 by working summers in each department, starting with wiping down presses from underneath after each run.

Then into the hot metal composing room, reading Linotype galleys upside down and backwards, laying out the galleys in chases, setting headlines on the Ludlow machines. Then into the newsroom/photo. Never sold advertising as a teen.

Account Deleted

I ordered 8 copies of "Fourth Turning" for my left-leaning siblings (3 of 5), Dad, and my lunatic in-laws.

Throwing them a rope and tying it to a post.

I think it was MM who brought up that book.... I dusted off my copy and re-read it.

Ahh. The perfect soul grenade for Christmas.

jimmyk

Mine was also a paper route at 12 or so, then a brief stint at 14 on a political campaign (local) going door-to-door, then a busboy at 16.

the generallyistic deplorable rich

JM Hanes-

I have some searching criticism of the piece but not sure where I would start. One I think is the assumption that Putin is somewhere in the background and the other is stretching the programming analogy too far.

>>>The swarm will continue to decline until it tunes into a new frequency. That's not to say that Putin didn't help the collapse along by jamming the Talking Points signal to some degree with his disinformation campaigns.<<<

I would argue that most industrialized countries in the world, including Russia, used official and unofficial means to get an understanding of the campaigns and the election.

Cecil Turner

That's fake news, OL. This is the real stuff:

Account Deleted

My parents wouldn't let me get a paper route but three of my neighborhood buddies had their own. We'd meet up and fold after school. Whoever was the most "burned out on it" got my help. Sunday mornings before Mass we'd have to do the big editions. Saturday night we'd get all the inserts ready. I'd make a few bucks. Didn't see it as a job. I was "making money."

buccaneer morgan

Worked in a check sorting office, in a bank.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

My first job was growing up in the country with cattle, chickens and two vegetable gardens big enough to stock a battalion of Hoss Cartwrights.

Cutting firewood, building fences, repairing fences, feeding chickens, feeding cows, hauling cow turds to the garden, cutting hay, hauling hay, watering the gardens, weeding them, picking the veggies, keeping ditches and pipelines running and about a hundred other things.
Pay? Allowance of, IIRC, two bucks a month and I think I had to go on strike to get that!
Looking back it was mostly a lot of fun and I was very lucky to have had that life.

Account Deleted

ROTFLMMAO!!!!!!

Ed Straker, Ladies and Gentlemen...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/12/dem_candidate_accuses_russian_hackers_of_stripping_her_nude.html

Account Deleted

Shocking that the ProggEmoCrats *believe* us hayseeds don't already know the Russians like to play hardball.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Lot of people getting punked by the idiot.

I thought it was hilarious on that dead thread link where Sully was the sole adult in the room, which is why I call them the children of the cornhole.

the generallyistic deplorable rich

Or more generally, Wrechard is buying into the Russians were behind all the hacking of the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Yikes, the Obama administration must have been tougher on the Russians than anyone knew.

I think they would have been surprised to the point of incredulity that a high ranking administration official would have a poorly secured private server where she conducted her official business. That they would exploit it is unsurprising.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

KK,

Yes, it was me that brought it up.

And I am glad YOU brought it up, because I think I have figured something out.

Part of the jarring appearance of the Snowflake Brigade whining and rioting and what-not is this:

They are looking remarkably like the more vocal members of OUR generation, the ones who staged sit-ins and testified before Congress about Genghis Khan and burned flags and such.

These are clones of those people and are OUT OF THEIR GENERATIONAL PLACE. That is why they are so jarring. Lefty universities have created throwback types and loosed them in the wrong time frame. The REAL character of the Millenials should be more akin to the Greatest Generation, because that is the generational slot they should fill. This would be like my grandson, whom daddy has met, and who is all about being responsible, making himself successful, and (of course) voted for Trump.

So I offer this as a theory as to why we find these sobbing snowflakes so disturbing. They are out of sequence, pure and simple.

JM Hanes

rich:

I suspect the Russians find all this Democrat hysteria hilarious.

Morning in America again

Just a thought......

Since Donald is doing such a great job with his cabinet picks, can we expect that any day now he will announce his White House Press Secretary to be .......Rush Limbaugh!

POP! goes another lib head.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://i.sli.mg/wGxLtJ.png

Go read this. Now the excuse about not revealing the hacking is because Trump was saying the system was rigged.

Boy, it's like the administration is made up of nothing but Eddie Haskells.

buccaneer morgan

So it was a snowflake staffer, millupa Fischer who screwed up.

Man Tran

Never really thought about it before, but growing up on ranches in MT, I don't think I got paid for hourly work until I had a janitor job in early college. The summers were working for my oldest BIL for room and board. Seemed perfectly normal. Twisting wrenches since six, self taught at rebuilding Jeeps and tractors by 12, racing across hay fields in a WW II 4x4 truck heavily modified as a hay stacker and hauling horses in stock trucks by 14. Perfect grounding for a future inguneer. Of course, moving next door to a speed shop in Phoenix at 15 cemented any hesitations.

buccaneer morgan

Milla, who forwarded to podestas chief of staff.

JM Hanes

Cecil:

"an army produced by a free culture will always have the advantage."

I'll be interested to know if you are convinced, assuming you make it all the way through the next couple of hundred pages. Would we have prevailed militarily in WWII if we hadn't broken the German codebooks? It certainly seems to me that totalitarian armies have been pretty damn successful too, and that it wouldn't be hard to find "nine landmark battles" upon which to argue that case, especially if we're ranging over the whole of ancient to modern history.

the generallyistic deplorable rich

buc-

Only Podesta's gmail on that one. Lots of screw ups and malicious intent all around.

the generallyistic deplorable rich

maybe I can re-re-repost this ...

all the first job talk reminds me of a scene in Napoleon Dynamite

"That's like only a dollar an hour!"

JM Hanes

Well, this is a disappointing walk back:

Trump transition says request for names of climate scientists was ‘not authorized’

Miss Marple the Deplorable

JM Hanes,

I think we would have prevailed eventually because the Germans were running out of fuel.

At least that's what I have read (am not a military historical expert).

When my dad joined the Army in 1937 (due to having to drop out of IU after all of his possessions were stolen from his boarding house, including his pre-med textbooks and his coat) he was sent to Ft. Snelling, Minnesota. He was paid in silver dollars, Ft. Snelling still had a wood stockade and a lot of horses. THAT is how far behind we were when the Japanese bombed Pearl harbor.

However, we went from Pearl Harbor to V-J day in 3 1/2 years, which is pretty amazing. We were only able to do it by refitting Detroit's auto plants and converting almost everything else in America to the war effort.

Unlike the Nazis, we did that without slave labor. Free peoples can do that. Totalitarian regimes are handicapped by their need to keep their own population in line, as well as those they have conquered.

That is why I think an army of a free people will always win.

sbw

Tap, tap, tap. Is the new thread on?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Regarding the walk back,

I think most of the questions are still in operation, just not the ones for the individual names.

I still like OL's 3 proposals from yesterday.

Beasts of England

Drugs are bad, mmkay?

DebinNC

I thought that rallying cry of libs was an odd battle to pick at this stage.

lyle

My first job was very much like Ig's and Man Tran's ranch work. Ranching and farming and generally being a cowpoke might seem glamorous. It ain't.

buccaneer morgan

You know the landshark was more devious

Account Deleted

"not authorized"... 'tactical reliance on technicality' was what one of my first bosses in bureaucracy would call it.

Used it after finding out how the opposition would respond. I'd been given the charge of "obtaining information" with full discretion as to how. Opposition would get a rash when my detailed requests landed on their desk (their reply was always "nope." under a thinly veiled 'who the f*ck are you?')

Boss would set up lunch. Egos got stroked. The "do this the easy way or the hard way" talk got had. Boxes of info were in my office the next day.

Homage. Tribute. Threats. The king won't send high ranking messengers first. Try to get em to lay down first to assess resistance and what it's going to cost

JM Hanes

Miss Marple:

"He was paid in silver dollars, Ft. Snelling still had a wood stockade and a lot of horses. THAT is how far behind we were when the Japanese bombed Pearl harbor."

Wow, I didn't realize we were that far behind starting out.

"However, we went from Pearl Harbor to V-J day in 3 1/2 years, which is pretty amazing."

Fortunately we had two huge oceans which pretty much insulated us from full scale attacks and which gave us the time to do it, though. Of course, those same oceans are what forced us to develop the means of projecting force over long distances — which has stood us well globally ever since.

Account Deleted

MM--- I think you've nailed it. Their numbers aren't what they're cracking them up to be. And with the fiscal austerity I see coming, a lot of snowflakes are in for a serious reconditioning experience. Going hungry is "hard and scary."

Stephanie despicable me

nother new thread.

JM Hanes

Must admit, I'm kind of liking the topics in this thread better, but that's just me.

KevlarKid:

Hope your reading is right. Perhaps I'm just a little too impatient to see the heads start rolling.

JM Hanes

Miss Marple:

"They are looking remarkably like the more vocal members of OUR generation, the ones who staged sit-ins and testified before Congress about Genghis Khan and burned flags and such."

What's especially jarring to me, is that the only really look like their historical predecessors. Back in the 60's at least the students were protesting policies that had humongous real world life and death consequences -- with friends and family (and selves) being drafted and sent to a (controversial) battlefront. Ditto for the systemic racism being addressed by the Civil Rights protests. The protesters also faced serious real world consequences, from water canons, dogs, tear gas to arrest.

What gets to me is when these snowflake SJW's style themselves as courageous latter day civil rights liberators, when so often what they are demanding is special privileges and what they are facing is zero consequences.

Cecil Turner

sorry for late response, didn't see this until now

Would we have prevailed militarily in WWII if we hadn't broken the German codebooks?

VDH would've considered that West v West (or free v free) and not a cultural test. In fact, in that WWII video he did a couple months back (it's on the same youtube page as the election video), he cites that as one of the main reasons WWII had such an appalling body count.

Donald

Hi Kim!

That seems like 50 years ago. I'd give anything to go back to that time and try again.

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