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January 21, 2017

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Jack is Back!

No prayers in Klingnon yet.

matt, deplore me if you must

Yay! Day 2.

RattlerGator

Thanks for that good laugh, JiB.

Sandy Daze

MAGA -- GTEB !

Sandy Daze

(repost from previous thread)

THIS:

Posted by: Thomas Collins | January 21, 2017 at 10:50 AM

Trump's speech was not intended to promote conservative, classical liberal or any other specific policies. It was an eloquent, soaring speech that brought back the idea of the American body politic being equal in the eyes of the Creator, and being the source of authority for any government, with the individuals in government being the hired help. For the policy details, Trump has assembled a fine team. And he will compromise with the Chinese, Russkies, and even with Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, San Fran Nan and NY Chuckie. But he has pledged in the speech to keep faith with the American people as he undertakes the grimy details of government. It was the most inspiring speech I have ever heard delivered by a public official. ...

Momto2

Happy Nobama Day to all!!!

Jack is Back!

Remember all those little window stickers for you car back in 2009:

"1/20/13 End of an Error"?

Just saw one coming home from tennis where the guy had used a black sharpie and changed the 13 to 17:)

Lets hope we are going from Error to Era.

Beasts of England

Having watched Trump's speech live and having read the transcript this morning, I realized that there was one serious flaw. He forgot to end it thusly:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mOD0XCm57d8

henry - drunk on prog tears

Yeah... New Thread.

Jack is Back!

Funny that none of our speech analysts here missed this in the Trump oratorical:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4143042/Trump-faces-plagiarism-accusations-copied-Bane.html

Plagerism!

JMHanes

Glad to see TM is back -- I was beginning to worry!

Sandy Daze:

Thanks for bringing Thomas Collins' excellent comment over to the new thread, because YCSTA!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

If you are going to get rid of corruption and give control back to the people, there are only so many ways to state it.

Good heavens, they are simply looking for anything, aren't they?

JMHanes

Cecil (continuing from the previous thread):

"But it wasn't a terribly conservative speech, and those who claim it is are wrong"

And yet, you yourself note the matter of degree. While Trump did not specifically address the deficit and taxes, you could find a pretty direct equivalent to each of your following Reagan bullet points. Even in the former instance, he's certainly in the ballpark when it comes to DC getting fat while the people starve. It's hard fault him for not explicitly promising to "curb the size and influence of the Federal Establishment," when he inked an EO freezing federal regulations, within minutes of arriving at the White House as Prez. In re one of your previous comments, it's worth noting that "America First" is not synonymous with "America alone," and that he did specifically mention strengthening old alliances and making new ones. I'm a little worried about protectionism, too, but OTOH, someone pointed out that if it takes a 2,000 page treaty (or some such), you're not really talking about free trade in the first place. The Trans-Pacific terms on copyright for example are all about fief protection.

That said, I don't think Trump is particularly conservative, per se, myself. Did he ever pretend to be? Suggesting that he is "redefining" what conservatism means, as some have done, also seems like picking a counter-productive fight, to me. In my view, he is redefining what it means to be a Republican, something that desperately needs doing. Over the years "conservative" and "republican" have been so thoroughly conflated that they've come to be used almost interchangeably. I think this election has made it clear that they are not, in fact, necessarily the same thing. I've certainly become more conservative over time, but I don't think traditional conservatism is the exclusive antidote to our progressive maladies, and I believe that the power of the purist pundits has severely narrowed the terms of political discussion on the right, along with the "popular" appeal of the resulting Republican message.

Which leads me to an aside on the dread specter of populism. The elephant in that room is not on the right. It's the very essence of demographic pandering on the left, where Democrats buy votes by promising anything and everything the "people" supposedly want, while fomenting disruption of both the body politic and the public order, by putative "grass roots" movements.

But back to the issue at hand, I'd also suggest that the conservative thinking has taken a discernible turn towards libertarianism over the past decade or so (perhaps in reaction to the GWB approach?), which may be showing up in the divide between the ideas of "fair" and ostensibly "free" trade.

JMHanes

I'm going to re-post the above on the New New Thread that TM put up when I wasn't looking!

PromoIncetives2😎

Well, the US military and other agencies (probably inception) just placed a new program that is classified above all else.Law enforcement, all laws, doctors, HS, etc. If, for example, an OIG wanted to know what's going on(the job) the OIG director (independent agency now like NSA change) would have to make a written request per case ( of course OIG has no way of knowing what or who to ask for and neither does anyone else) and might be granted that requester eyes only, no copies, isolated computer access. Might. The case filer can deny anyone or anything access or grant in measure. So, why's this important aside from the sheer, raw spy power? Well, there's the five eyes. Maybe they followed suit. So, let's say the VP and significant other had a party. Some liquor, dancing, good fun. Well, she could have a case filed against her by a foreign or domestic spy , military or agency person and this would work its way through the five eyes. Technically, it's not a leak if the filer grants access and they can say, do, or threaten anything they want with the filed case. It's a tool.

The only limit is your imagination and plans.πŸ˜€

PromoIncetives2😎

Oh, it's a global program, so any other laws, police, etc are irrelevent2πŸ™†

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Trolls want a new thread do they can copy and paste their comments from the old thread. Losing millions. Go figure

PromoIncetives2😎

Well, that Congress critter who's been there forever just addressed the five eyes march and told them you should use the empowerment tools, the clandestine ultra secret reporting and archiving against powerful males like Trump. This appears to be the case. Trump needs to sue his employer. It is really the contract that must be changed like no term limits, etc. Unfortunately, victims like the VP significant other can't sue her employer yet.

A good example is when Trudeau, Tom's pal, assaulted an elected member of parliament on the floor. The government employee could have used the covert, classified reporting and archiving to stop this powerful male family from hurting others. It is also common for work place violence doers to have home life queries. This also could be done through the five eyes. It could have all been addressed and others safeguarded. In the future she may have been able to sue her employer also; regardless of what happens to Trudeau. She could have been safely empowered and others protected from these powerful, wealthy males.

PromoIncetives2😎

Well, that Congress critter who's been there forever just addressed the five eyes march and told them you should use the empowerment tools, the clandestine ultra secret reporting and archiving against powerful males like Trump. This appears to be the case. Trump needs to sue his employer. It is really the contract that must be changed like no term limits, etc. Unfortunately, victims like the VP significant other can't sue her employer yet.

A good example is when Trudeau, Tom's pal, assaulted an elected member of parliament on the floor. The government employee could have used the covert, classified reporting and archiving to stop this powerful male family from hurting others. It is also common for work place violence doers to have home life queries. This also could be done through the five eyes. It could have all been addressed and others safeguarded. In the future she may have been able to sue her employer also; regardless of what happens to Trudeau. She could have been safely empowered and others protected from these powerful, wealthy males.

PromoIncetives2😎

Well, that Congress critter who's been there forever just addressed the five eyes march and told them you should use the empowerment tools, the clandestine ultra secret reporting and archiving against powerful males like Trump. This appears to be the case. Trump needs to sue his employer. It is really the contract that must be changed like no term limits, etc. Unfortunately, victims like the VP significant other can't sue her employer yet.

A good example is when Trudeau, Tom's pal, assaulted an elected member of parliament on the floor. The government employee could have used the covert, classified reporting and archiving to stop this powerful male family from hurting others. It is also common for work place violence doers to have home life queries. This also could be done through the five eyes. It could have all been addressed and others safeguarded. In the future she may have been able to sue her employer also; regardless of what happens to Trudeau. She could have been safely empowered and others protected from these powerful, wealthy males.

PromoIncetives2😎

Well, that Congress critter who's been there forever just addressed the five eyes march and told them you should use the empowerment tools, the clandestine ultra secret reporting and archiving against powerful males like Trump. This appears to be the case. Trump needs to sue his employer. It is really the contract that must be changed like no term limits, etc. Unfortunately, victims like the VP significant other can't sue her employer yet.

A good example is when Trudeau, Tom's pal, assaulted an elected member of parliament on the floor. The government employee could have used the covert, classified reporting and archiving to stop this powerful male family from hurting others. It is also common for work place violence doers to have home life queries. This also could be done through the five eyes. It could have all been addressed and others safeguarded. In the future she may have been able to sue her employer also; regardless of what happens to Trudeau. She could have been safely empowered and others protected from these powerful, wealthy males.

PromoIncetives2😎

Well, that Congress critter who's been there forever just addressed the five eyes march and told them you should use the empowerment tools, the clandestine ultra secret reporting and archiving against powerful males like Trump. This appears to be the case. Trump needs to sue his employer. It is really the contract that must be changed like no term limits, etc. Unfortunately, victims like the VP significant other can't sue her employer yet.

A good example is when Trudeau, Tom's pal, assaulted an elected member of parliament on the floor. The government employee could have used the covert, classified reporting and archiving to stop this powerful male family from hurting others. It is also common for work place violence doers to have home life queries. This also could be done through the five eyes. It could have all been addressed and others safeguarded. In the future she may have been able to sue her employer also; regardless of what happens to Trudeau. She could have been safely empowered and others protected from these powerful, wealthy males.

Neo

Iowa Rep. Steve King got into trouble for calling the Congressional Black Caucus boycotters β€œthe self-segregating caucus.”

matt, deplore me if you must

what an asshole.

daddy

I believe that the power of the purist pundits has severely narrowed the terms of political discussion on the right, along with the "popular" appeal of the resulting Republican message.

Marvelous insight, JMH. Brilliant!

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