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January 22, 2017

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anonamom

First Sunday of the true Hope and Change era!

anonamom

Packers and I don't really care too much.

Thomas Collins

Could a team led by a Trent Dilfer type now be a serious Super Bowl threat? The importance of the QB has grown to the extent that having a top flight QB such as the four on display today is crucial to a Super Bowl run. I acknowledge that it could be argued that Peyton Manning last year cuts against my point, because he was more of a game manager at the end of his career. Notwithstanding Denver's run last year, however, I think QB importance is now at an all time high.

Thomas Collins

And will Le'veon Bell keep listening to his mom and stop tripping? Bell appears to be the top human interest story today, at least in Pittsburgh.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/01/22/leveon-bell-steelers-patriots-afc-championship-super-bowl-nfl-playoffs/stories/201701220124

Thomas Collins

Is Ms. Ciccone in custody yet for threatening to blow up the White House?

Tom Bowler

TC, If I recall correctly, a week or so ago you posted that getting a jury to convict of Hillary for "gross negligence" in handling classified material would be very difficult to achieve. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like a slam dunk to me. What would make it so difficult?

Captain Hate

There's something else at play in today's games: teams that played at a high level all season versus two who are wild card teams and are peaking now. Recent results seem to favor the latter.

James D.

TC, I think Baltimore in 2012 was also an exception to your point. Joe Flacco is maybe slightly above average, but no more than that. You can't mention him in the same breath as Brady, Rodgers, etc.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

If they haven't locked her up for repeatedly exposing that lumpy, old - broad ass on stage it would be unjust to toss her in the clink for the comparitively minor infraction of blowing up the White House.

RattlerGator

A very good morning to one and all, especially to Cecil -- my JOM buddy.

Good grief. I said the speech was more populist than conservative.

. . . .

I can't figure out if you're saying conservatism is bad, or want to redefine terms such that anything Trump does is conservative. If the former, whatever; it doesn't matter, they lost the election. If the latter, we probably need some new words to describe what it used to mean, so we can figure out where we went, and how to go back there (or somewhere else) if we decide to.

Posted by: Cecil Turner | January 21, 2017 at 10:18 PM

* * *

Correction, Cecil. To quote you directly on the matter:

Dr K said--correctly I think--that it was a populist speech, not a conservative one.

Posted by: Cecil Turner | January 20, 2017 at 07:53 PM

* * *

Hmmmmm. You did quite clearly adopt that Krauthammer assessment, did you not? And, frankly, if you can't figure out what I'm saying about conservatism allow me to opine that you're working far too hard at *not* comprehending my critique of a far-too-narrow take on what is and is not conservative.

As Buskirk hinted over at American Greatness, too much of a defensive take on conservatism consigns us too often to the role of Charlie Brown played so effectively by our academic and GOPe conservative overlords to the delight of progressive regressives the world over.

No more, my friend, no more. Trump has figured this out and he has my full support.

Comanche Voter

Hey if you are a Phil Rivers fan--being a great quarterback is not enough. You need some other players on the field--to help keep the opposing players off your face.

sbw

RattlerGator, I love how you write with a smile.

Thomas Collins

Tom Bowler, she'll have top notch lawyers and a solid jury selection team. The jurors selected would likely be sympathetic to her. This wouldn't be a JOM jury. Sessions will leave her alone unless there is something really bad and clearly provable with the Clinton Foundation.

Keep in mind that with everything out there as it was, she won 48 percent of the popular vote and, with a more aggressive Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan presence, might have been the one being sworn in last Friday.

henry

You need an offensive line. Then even a rookie QB can get you there (Dallas). Beyond that it is which team is healthy. The bye week is a big effin deal.

Thomas Collins

I would put Flacco above Peyton in his final season and Dilfer, James D. Flacco could throw the deep ball better. But he's certainly not one mentioned in the same breath as today's final four QBs.

I think Rodgers's heroics end today, CH. I think he'll have a great game, but that Falcons will score enough on Green Bay's defense that he won't have a chance to pull it out on the last drive. I also think the Patriots have a sufficiently strong team this year that they'll overcome Pittsburgh's momentum. I also happen to think both Pittsburgh and KC were overrated as threats to New England this year. If any team has the momentum from playing in the first week of the playoffs, I think it's the Packers.

NoIt๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘ป

Maybe Tom's pals, Canada, don't want people who think about bombing buildings and then changing their mind. Border issues usually are criminal records, like known violence makers, and criminal intent.

Right now everyone is in lock step with the party there. Not going along would be unwise. Loss of income, allegations. Even the spaceman agrees. Trump bad, Canada good.

It's a party, not the government(except maybe spies). Party politics, violence makers...

Captain Hate

Flacco is very inconsistent. When he's on he's very good but you never know when he'll have a total stinker of a game.

buccaneer morgan

Kellyanne firing on all cylinders.

Thomas Collins

By the way, the appropriate talking points for the coastal gentry set are as follows: Trump incites the racists and misogynists, and but the anti-Trump rhetoric of the progs has nothing to do with the rioting and looting in DC. And there is no response when I inquire why Trump's supporters have been so peaceful during the inaugural festivities.

sbw

+1 TC.

Captain Hate

Tom Bowler, she'll have top notch lawyers and a solid jury selection team. The jurors selected would likely be sympathetic to her. This wouldn't be a JOM jury. Sessions will leave her alone unless there is something really bad and clearly provable with the Clinton Foundation.

People tend to forget that the Whitewater prosecutors had a lot of convictions under their belts, including the subsequent governor of Arkansas, on matters much more serious than misremembering things. Start lopping off a few like Cheryl Mills and dear sweet Huma and see what happens.

peter-

Very nice Clarice's pieces this morning.

Threadkiller

I've read that the RFP is 800 pages long, 39 pages of which were technical requirements. For a pistol. Really?

Probably due to the multiple languages and homo/near-queer/tranny sections.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

First on the chopping block: National Endowment for the Arts!

http://powderedwigsociety.com/hollywood-sucks/#

This is always framed like the NEA funds symphonies and plays in small towns.

In fact, they fund stuff like vile performance art.

rse

I do like our host's taste in teams today. Rise Up indeed.

Atlanta is funny this morning. Everyone who was out at whole foods and then the grocery store (did not want organic red new potatoes) is wearing Falcons gear and getting food to watch the game. I feel sorry for the restaurants without tvs between the snow storm that wasn't two weeks ago and the falcons last weekend and now this. People are going to each other's houses to watch as if it were the super bowl.

I like the comment about the 30 Million Women March last November on election day. Hoping the diva was not at one of those marches. I know my nieces were. Discovered one has a nose ring now she keeps quiet about at my mom's. I guess she was hoping hillary would make a job for her * studies Masters.

Another wanted hillary to win to expand the national park service so she could get a job. Might be an opening doing bridge or road work in the future.

rse

This is good. https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2017/01/21/the-pointless-paranoia-of-the-womens-marches/

Captain Hate

Rupert News Sunday has John Roberts covering Spicer's presser and Trump's CIA visit. Covered some dumbass skirt making an inarticulate fool out of herself.

Reince Priebus is on defending Spicer saying the MFM has to be dragged kicking and screaming into telling the truth. Very shoddy reporting on the MLK bust. Priebus nails Wallace for lying about the size of the crowd by showing a picture taken before Trump appeared. Priebus isn't excusing any shoot first and then backtrack later reporting. Says Trump's appearance at the CIA was a love fest. Priebus isn't backing down one step.

Captain Hate

Priebus: John Brennan has a lot to answer for on the leaks. Protestors included idiots that want to blow up the White House. Will work with congress on dreamers. He refuses to let Wallace interrupt him from what he wants to say. Skewers the donk actions on Pompeo and calls out Schmucky to act like a responsible individual.

Marlene

TC,did you see that an East Boston man was arrested in the wee hours this morning for pulling a hotel fire alarm? The hotel at Logan where the Steelers are staying? Go Pats!

hrtshpdbox

Kellyanne Conway is brilliant, unflappable, and unbeatable. What an asset for the new president.

Marlene

rse,your niece should apply for a job this summer at our new National Monument in Maine. The roads and trails and other infrastructure needs to be built. Tell her to bring lots of mosquito spray!

rse

Clarice-you are in the banner over at powerline with today's pieces.

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James D.

It is paranoia, rse.

A whole bunch of people I know and (up until yesterday, anyway) respect went out to march, or if they didn't go, they expressed wholehearted support for it.

These are largely people with real jobs in the private sector making actual things and having to meet a bottom line - and doing so quite well; people with children (who are generally smart and well-behaved); people who are generally rational and thoughtful and kind; and even the ones who are Democrats have not (up until this election) been lunatic about it.

And yet since the election they've become paranoid. The world will end due to climate change! Gays will be hunted down and imprisoned! Women will become slaves like in "The Handmaid's Tale". It's the apocalypse!

It's truly bizarre, and frightening, to watch. It's like some kind of mass hypnosis or something.

Captain Hate

McTurtle pledges to work with Trump on moving his agenda. Working with the administration on repeal and replace; reminds Wallace that even Slick vowed to do the same. Asked Schmucky to give Trump the same consideration as they did Zippy and the oily fuck torpedoed him and can't be trusted. Wallace is defending Tom Daschle. Confident that a Supreme Court will be treated fairly and confirmed.

Imperious Rex

Hey. I thought nicknames had to come from without. Is it kosher to name oneself after a pot-metal Pakistani halftang knife?

Beasts of England

Go Steelers!!

Tom Bowler

Thanks TC and CH for weighing in on my question about a possible Hillary conviction. I vacillate on whether or not she should be indicted, on one hand thinking that it would be a good demonstration of American equality in the eyes of the law, and on the other that she could become an undeserving martyr if indicted.

I guess the best approach is the one you suggest, CH. Go after the people around her who can be brought to justice. It might even be good optics to leave her conspicuously outside of the prosecutor's circle of targets while underlings pay the price on her behalf.

Off to run errands. Thanks again.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.wsiltv.com/story/34315584/bus-with-marion-hs-students-on-board-vandalized-in-dc

Jack is Back!

Pats and Pack.

TC,

Do you think this year is Tom Teriffic's swan song ala Manning last year?

I mean if he wins the SB.

KevlarKid

Good Morning, JOMerz--

First Sunday without the Bath House Rat. My my.

Just finished an hour long Skype with the Belgian contingent over in Tienen. GrandSon and GrandDaughter were busy doing art while their Mama (my daughter Jess) was having a hot toddy nursing her cold. Big fun!

RE QBeez... Trent Dilfer was the beneficiary of the meanest and most game-controlling defense in recent history. When the opposing offense is off the field most of the game it allows a competent QB with a decent OLine and running game to control the tempo of the game. The uptempo pace of a game forces QB mistakes and exposes their weaknesses. When the uptempo favors one team (as it favored Dallas) then it is paramount for the opposing side to have a wizard-caliber QB like ARog. Alex Smith has more chops than Dilfer ever had but he is a similar case in point of ball control even though the KC defense was less of a yardage plugging unit and more of a point preventing unit.

No two ways about it though... if a team is stuck with a Brock Osweiler and a lot of potential dead money, that kills a locker room and a huddle week in and week out. The QB is the battlefield general that the offense has to follow into hell. If that isn't the relationship, even with the defense, then the team will falter.

New England has to play error-free football to beat Pittsburgh and they must shut down Lev Bell. Those are two huge burdens that are out of Tom Brady's hands. If PIT defense can hurt Brady's small receivers by knocking green snot out of at least one of them in the early going, it will be a long day for the Pats. I am looking for PIT to stuff Blount's running efforts.

I'm impartial re Pack and Falcones. I like the Falcon head coach, Danny Quinn. But I don't have a lot of faith in Matty Ryan. He is a Dan Fouts-Never-Been-to-the-Big-One kinda QB. Just has that kind of look to him. Does everything right except win when it matters. Maybe it's his day today.

ARog is a big big factor in a game like this. The Falcon defense has to be mentally tougher than this wizard QB. Even the smallest plays he makes in the first quarter will begin to eat into the heads of the defense: every time he evades a sack to complete a pass and every time he burns the secondary big or for mid-range yardage---- that defense is reflexively going to be yelling inside their own heads "Come on! Come on! Not this! Oh Sh*t! No!" Can't help it. It's how a star player impacts defenses---- unless that defense as a unit comes to play and make big stop plays. Shut down or go down.

My picks: GB by one score; PIT by 3 in OT.

James D.

Oh, my picks for today:

Patriots. Probably a 10-14 point game that really isn't that close.

Packers. Rodgers has the momentum, and he's taken up residence in the "he can do anything, and no one can stop him" zone for the past several weeks. I don't see it ending today.

Captain Hate

Kim Strassel: Trump gave a speech for our times. He's not an ideological person. Juan: Trump exaggerated too much about the 4 point something unemployment . Lol. Bret Baier: populist speech specifically Trumpian against the DC establishment. Mo somebody from Georgetown: didn't appeal to the majority who didn't vote for him. Kim: people are disgusted with DC and if Trump gets things done people will jump on board.

Jor

Yep Conway is brilliant -- "alternative facts" --- lol.
Guys sty strong trump had largest innaguration crowd ever. Period.
Day three

Miss Marple the Deplorable

KevlarKid,

Thank you for an explanation of football strategy which I had never thought about!

I am rooting for Green Bay in honor of my father, who remained a Packers fan even after Indianapolis got an NFL team. I still remember us stopping by Lambeau Field and standing in the parking lot while he said, "There it is, girls. There it is..." I think I was about 8 years old.

Jack is Back!

Off to mass.

I pray especially hard for our nation and President Trump.

Another Bob

(From the last thread...)

sbw, indeed I have shot the G19 and the Sig.

The grip angle thing is an oldie but goodie. Paying mind to the adage "opinions are like (redacted), everyone has one", mine is that's a matter of training. Gun guys like us who like trying different things notice the difference immediately. But if you consistently shoot one or the other, the difference disappears.

Likewise with the safety or lack thereof. (BTW as you know, the "street" 320 is nearly identical to the Glock in this regard, the thumb safety was an MHS add.) There's a reasonably well-known (among gun guys) video of a guy giving himself a "Glock-leg" while practicing quick-draws with a 1911 in Condition 1. Again, knowledge and training.

$200 for a new Sig is a great deal. Now think of the DOD price for a G19 which is already being used for "concealed and tactical" without the need for all the extra inventory of "modular" parts to make it so? $125? $100?

It's a solution in search of a problem IMO.

Willy

Manuchin's a piece of work. 'I love pensions..'
Lol.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

You know, the women's march thing has me befuddled. If you want to get people on your side, wouldn't you dress up and look nice and carry signs that say things like "Don't forget the ladies." (which is a quote from Louisa Adams)? Or maybe quotes from Susan B. Anthony or other noted campaigners for women's votes and equality before the law? You would be dignified and sympathetic.

Instead, all the pictures have women wearing repulsive vagina costumes and carrying vulgar signs. The have people like Madonna using the F word and talking about blowing up the White House (which is a national treasure for ALL of America).

I just do not see how this messaging is anything other than self-indulgence, and looks like a crowd of crazy people.

Cecil Turner

As Buskirk hinted over at American Greatness, too much of a defensive take on conservatism consigns us too often to the role of Charlie Brown played . . .

Got it. Conservatism is bad. In that case you should be glad Trump isn't [much of] one.

Another Bob

MM you shouldn't be puzzled at your conclusion - that's all it is.

A ridiculous self-indulgence that relies on the goodwill of those being attached to succeed.

Another Bob

attached > attacked

PIMF

Captain Hate

Baier: Spicer definitely speaks for Trump and does what voters want him to do regarding the press. Juan prefers twinkies like PeRINO. Mo calls Trump a liar. Kim said there's no downside to blasting the MFM and points out how Wallace fell for the landslide bullshit. Baier thinks he maybe should dial it back a bit. Wallace and Juan are still in denial about the election. WE PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Cecil,

As I said, I don't care much about the label as I am not really considered a conservative according to the approved Mark Levin list, and I don't care if Trump follows all of the approved positions of National Review.

However, if you are going to say that Trump is NOT much of one, then lets see your evidence.

Captain Hate

And that's a wrap.

Cecil Turner

Asked Schmucky to give Trump the same consideration as they did Zippy and the oily fuck torpedoed him and can't be trusted.

And this surprised how many? As much as the new administration destroys some of the traditional lines of Dem/GOP liberal/conservative divide, the ox that's going to get the biggest goring is obviously the Dems's. So I would be very surprised to see anything less than full obstruction from Chuck U. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised to see defections from vulnerable Dem senators, and possibly others (esp. Joe Manchin).

And for the next couple months, it won't matter much anyway, thanks to Harry Reid's limited nuke strike. Best he can do is slow it down.

Willy

Trump is the greatest CIA supporter Evah!

Really! There's no one greater.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Graham just announced on Twitter that he WILL vote to confirm Tillerson as Secretary of State!

Rocco

Go Pats...Putin wants another ring!

Cecil Turner

I don't care if Trump follows all of the approved positions of National Review.

Neither do I, really. I'm just trying to describe where the road map diverges and maybe predict where that'll run into roadblocks from his own side.

And, conversely, whether he'll get some ideologically-driven cooperation from Dems. Which at least on infrastructure, you'd expect to be possible (though perhaps they'll be unhappy with the lack of spaces at the trough). Might make for some very interesting spending bills coming up, assuming they can cobble something other than a continuing resolution going forward.

Cecil Turner

However, if you are going to say that Trump is NOT much of one, then lets see your evidence.

No, we've beaten this to death. Anyone who cares to pick out the populist paragraphs from that speech can find several of 'em easily. I'm done with it.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

McCain, too! Art of the Deal, folks! Here's McCain's and Graham's statement:

http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=5116A462-5B0F-4679-9745-545C548F4439

Willy

Really. There was like a million to a mil and a half. Largest lie EVAH...

Miss Marple the Deplorable


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Willy

Trump 'accidentally' turned on the news to see reports of the wurst evah...touts tweets.

Willy

Conway squirms...what a job.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

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hrtshpdbox

Have those reports from a few days ago that Trump's team was preparing massive gov't dep't budge cuts been debunked? Certainly, there's nothing more purist conservative than cutting the size of government. True, Trump didn't mention that during his speech - why should he?

I'm going to assess Trump based on what he does, not what he says. In fact, I'm expecting him to say plenty of indefensible things (at least on their face). The proof will be in the actions taken on behalf of the country.

I've got Atlanta, outright and against the spread, and the Steelers, against the spread. I also have Atlanta to win the Supe.

hrtshpdbox

"budge cuts" is "budget cuts", but hell, cut the budge too.

Threadkiller

Kinda like your garlic and onion fable.

You got shut down pretty well on the caring for a stray dog, and you continue to imagine you have the inside track on the care for humans.

Beasts of England

'...Trump isn't [much of] one.'

That's a laugh riot, and I'll be sure to pass your assessment on to Sessions next time I see him.

Captain Hate

And this surprised how many?

You always want to hold out hope that after eight years of slavishly supporting a Jew hating ideologue who torpedoed Israel up until the very end, he might reflect on what a quisling piece of shit he's been and change his ways.

Beasts of England

Waitwut? Somebody thinks I put garlic in my Swedish meatballs? There's a saying about assumptions...

Comanche Voter

Ah the delirium in some parts of the press over Trump's use of the word "carnage" to describe what has happened in parts of flyover country. The loss of jobs, the opiod and meth and now heroin epidemics are all part of that. When you have economic and social conditions that destroy a good part of civil society--that's carnage in my book.

Yesterday's Los Angeles Times (which today is celebrating the women's marches wall to wall) had a front page story about Everett Washington. Everett is about `15 miles north of Seattle. The City of Everett is suing the makers of Oxycontin--blaming the maker for the opiod and heroin epidemic engulfing Everett. Everett has a jail with beds for 16 drug addicts--and frequently has an additional 125 or so drug addicts that should be in those cells. These days the addicts have mostly moved to heroin from Oxycontin--but Everett thinks it is the drug maker's fault.

I don't know about the merits of Everett's law suit. But I know carnage in civil society when I see it. Those nitwits in the media can't see it (after all they're probably snorting coke).

Cecil Turner

Here's McCain's and Graham's statement:

Sent an email touting Tillerson to Sen Paul (and asking him to persuade his compatriots) after watching that very impressive hearing. Got a robo-response saying he'd send "a response from me specific to the issues you've mentioned in the near future." That was ten days ago, no response, and still not a statement AFAICT.

Willy

Lol..tk

I feel sorry for your pets. Wheat, chicken meal garlic, onions and corn...yum yum.

Janet the expert

MM's 10:40 link - Those rioters are from the "Women's March" on Saturday.
It wasn't the anarchists.

I tell ya...another big loser for the Dems is that more & more people can SEE what these gatherings are REALLY like.
Years ago the MFM would describe the event & show a pic of a few reasonable looking people. Now with the internet & citizen journalists we can all see what dangerous, vulgar kooks they are.

Willy

Are Neo-neocons conservative?

Flynn and Ledeen? Heh. Read their book.

matt, deplore me if you must

The hatred is visceral and deep. It is going to be a rough four years and the media have thrown away all objectivity. So what were the protests about? Hating Trump? Reproductive rights? Hillary got gypped? Racism?

Can anyone succinctly tell me? It seemed like a few hundred thousand women bragging on their women parts along with a large contingent of pajama boys.

The way it has been framed and explained it was about a fratboy comment Trump made months ago. A very thin premise for a movement, I think.

But then our old culture seems to be about celebrity and how low one can go, dropping f bombs and potty language. How utterly perverse that they demand respect when acting like that.

I'm calling for a million bars of soap march.

Martin Luther King must be looking down and saying "Grow Up, People".

Threadkiller

Maybe McCain and Graham should Google:

"Rand Paul: "Yes, I will vote for Rex Tillerson""

and sent the results to Rand's compatriots.

Those two lazy slobs probably used the wrong email.

Cecil Turner

Certainly, there's nothing more purist conservative than cutting the size of government.

I agree actions are the metric, but I'd challenge you to find a single reference to cutting budgets in his inaugural.

That's a laugh riot, and I'll be sure to pass your assessment on to Sessions next time I see him.

The context was a discussion of his speech, and that's how I intended the remark. But I also think there's plenty of air between Trump's stated positions and that of a classic conservative, and I suspect Sessions would agree.

Threadkiller

Better than the dick you stuff in your pets, fruitcake.


Threadkiller

They were protesting their unfair "getting laid" quotient, matt.

Threadkiller

...and send...

Buckeye

Carried over from the last thread with a slight edit:

Having fired both the P320 and the G19, I believe the P320 has a much better trigger, and it is hard to imagine someone preferring the G19.

Trigger feel on the P320 is identical to my P226.

Willy

"The HATRED...."

Yes. It's terrible. Give Trump a chance.

Have you been in touch with JOM these past eight years? Lol.

Threadkiller

Whoops. I thought you were quoting McCain's press release, Cecil.

Sorry about that.

:-/

Cecil Turner

My dad used to run sled dogs (sometimes in a very rustic trap line) for years. He swore on a diet of 1/3 dog chow, 1/3 rice, 1/3 fish (dip netting and local fish wheels being a very cheap source of the latter). Usually cooked the whole mess outside.

Still remember the smell (not quite as bad as it sounds).

Willy

Oh, I see the source of offense TK.

You thought you should be lionized for your charity and compassion even if you poisoned the canine.

Cecil Turner

Sorry about that.

No sweat. I misread your remark anyway. (And that after looking over my own and making the same conclusion.) Shoulda quoted a different start from MM.

Beasts of England

I don't care if his speech was 'conservative' or not. I personally don't think the country was interested in a lecture about conservatism. Not a single person I know had anything negative to say about the speech, nor did any care to dissect it for missing elements.

I know Sessions personally, Cecil, and promise you he wouldn't have endorsed Trump if he didn't believe he was a conservative.

JMHanes

RattlerGator:

Although, contra Cecil, I thought there was plenty for conservatives to like in Trump's inaugural speech, i.e. it was not fundamentally un-conservative, I do agree that trying to sell Trump as a conservative politician requires stretching the definition into a rather shapeless mass. Indeed, one of Trump's strength's is his refusal to toe traditional ideological lines, is it not? Cecil has pointed out several areas where Trump does not conform to pretty pedestrian conservative tenets. Rewriting the definition so as to count him in is not the answer to "too much of a defensive take on conservatism." That's the kind of revisionism I'd expect on the left.

Why do you want to claim Trump is a conservative in the first place? In many ways, what I like about him is that you can't fit him into the traditional political mosaic, and that may be the best thing that's happened to the Republican party in a long time. It's part of what keeps the opposition (on both sides of the aisle) off balance. What I see here is a chance to reshape the word Republican, and enlarge the Republican tent in ways that can attract any number of natural constituencies whom traditional conservative electioneering has repelled.

Janet the expert

from FB -

Verner: Hundreds of thousands of women marched around our nations cities in pink hats and vagina costumes, cheered on by worn out Hollywood leftist abortion junkies, and the usual suspects, and tens of millions of American women watched it all, and said to themselves, "THANK GOD TRUMP WON." #MAGA #NOTMYMARCH #PUSSYHATSAREFORLOSERS

Cecil Turner

Having fired both the P320 and the G19, I believe the P320 has a much better trigger, and it is hard to imagine someone preferring the G19.

Having carried one in a combat zone for half a year, AFAICT the only thing that matters is how it looks in the holster. (And whether it's heavy enough to unbalance and cause back strain.)

Buy the cheaper one with fewer gidgets.

matt, deplore me if you must

Obamna came right out of the gate with a radical Left agenda. Single payer healthcare has been the holy grail of the Left for 60 years.

They passed it by dubious means in the middle of the night on Christmas Eve without most of it having been written and none of it having been read except by the authors. Almost Stalinesque, isn't it?

His visit to Cairo inflamed the Middle East. He did more stupid shit in his first 100 days than any of his predecessors.He threw away the gains we had made in Iraq in a tantrum.

He did his best to hide his true colors.

Momto2

Well, after the election was over, I thought I had expunged all of the "friends" on FB who continually filled my page with garbage.

But today, I found several more who are supporting and who participated in the silly march yesterday. I would never have believed these refined southern "friends" would think walking down the public street with a pink (redacted) on your head is something to be admired and applauded.

I won't have to read their drivel anymore. It feels good - like that feeling when your entire house is clean!

les nessman

"The way it has been framed and explained it was about a fratboy comment Trump made months ago. A very thin premise for a movement, I think."

Actually the comment was from YEARS ago, so the premise is even thinner.

It doesn't really matter though, the media is going to go after him harder than any other President in modern history, maybe in all of American history.
The difference is that Trump hits back harder than anyone they've targeted before, so it could be their undoing.

Cecil Turner

Not a single person I know had anything negative to say about the speech, nor did any care to dissect it for missing elements.

Oh blither. Just before I posted that first description of it somebody (anonamom?) said she didn't like it. I just quoted what I thought appropriate from Dr K (more populist than conservative) and I had hoped for something more on the budget (which I think we all should be looking for) and started a JOM parsing war. Of which I am now thoroughly tired.

I'm sorry. Happy?

Janet the expert

So what were the protests about? Hating Trump? Reproductive rights? Hillary got gypped? Racism?

Can anyone succinctly tell me? It seemed like a few hundred thousand women bragging on their women parts along with a large contingent of pajama boys.

Another victim group made up of mostly successful white women & their eunuch 'men'?
They didn't really have a victim niche, so they created one.

There has to be someone to blame for their anger & misery. It can't be them!...so....Trump!

Beasts of England

I meant people I talked to about it in real life, Cecil - I should have been clear on that.

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