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February 17, 2017

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henry

I wish Fleming kept up his blog.

Sorry TM, I followed him before I found JOM.

henry

We'll, that plan was just an update of TR:

Walk crazy and carry a big stick.


Old school street smarts. Can't beat it.

God found the way.

Heh, Tom, did you ever find your flag lapel pin?

henry

Kim, our Chicago friend notes a Brit YouTube on the current "minimum". But alas I cannot link from here.

daddy

NBC NEWS Headline: These Historians Say Obama Ranks 12th in the History of Presidential Leadership

I'm outraged@#$

Why didn't they ask Presidential Historian Michael Beschloss his opinion? He knows Obama was the smartest President ever. He knows Obama's IQ was "off the charts." He knows we'll never elect a guy as smart as Obama again to be our President, because "we just don't elect guys as smart as Obama to be President."

Why wasn't Michael Beschloss interviewed for this story? Number 12? Are you kidding me? Hell, Obama's crease in his pant automatically puts him in the top 5 at a minimum.

Damn fake news bastards at NBC@#$%^ Grrrrrrr!

daddy

I'm getting blisters typing this over and over again every day:

DOW closes at a new high.

Ow:(

lyle

I don't remember Nixon actually getting impeached. Am I mistaken?

windansea

ATTN JOM wine snobs, you know who you are

Bought a Charbroil smoker/roaster/grill on Amazon and it came with a $100 certificate from nakedwines.com

Basically I can order a case of 12 bottles mixed white or red for $80 with the $100 cerificate

Anybody dealt with these guys before?

https://us.nakedwines.com/cases/index.htm

peter-

daddy, Obama was too smart to be in the top eleven.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Those historical "best presidents" lists are basically Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, and whoever they like best.

I quit paying attention to them about 20 years ago.

lyle

Wine snob, you say? I've never heard of any of those wines, windansea, which should be a completely moot point. They seem to be similar to the wines I was getting through a short-lived stint with WSJ wine club: not bad wines but nothing that great either. Judging by the price points of the wines in that link, I'll bet they're similar quality.

windansea

Lyle thanks

wine snobs is a backhanded compliment from me, I know nothing, drink inexpensive wines but have tasted some of the best and know they are better

Jack is Back! (On his iPad)

Daddy,

Posted that NBC link on the long thread. Called it Fake History.

Finally flying. 4+ hour delay to install new cockpit windscreen. Wouldn't want 1st officer to catch a cold at 36k ft.

Decided to stay at the MCO Hyatt instead of driving home on I-4 late at night. Now I can drink. Yippee!

Captain Hate

I don't remember Nixon actually getting impeached. Am I mistaken?

No, I think you're right because iirc he resigned before the impeachment vote, which would have surely gone against him.

peter

basically Zero was leading the top eleven Presidents from behind

daddy

Lou Dobbs amazed at Fred barnes for Barnes saying that he did not think Trump did himself a lot of good yesterday. Lou is dumfounded, as am I. What the hell was Fred Barnes watching? Is there something in the water at the Weekly Standard that makes people who work there total oblivious morons?

I can understand Kristol being that dense. Maybe it's a function of working at a website that does not allow commenters to comment, so they never get to hear from anybody but themselves, but seriously---Fred Barnes? He missed it too?

I'm like Lou Dobbs---I'm shaking my head in dismay.

buccaneer morgan.

The fake news purveyors of the era.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SCantojr/status/832365784865325056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Captain Hate

Barnes is used to Presidential behavior which this falls outside of. Fred's usually a straight shooter so either he doesn't understand what I, and I assume most here, think Trump is doing and the importance of doing so or he understands it but thinks Trump is wrong for doing it.

lyle

Speaking of wine, why, just look at the time...😎🍷

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Lyle,

Yes indeed.

Cheers!

peter

Pope Francis just keeps going on an on.... LUN

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Tweets & replies Media

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 31m31 minutes ago

Looking forward to the Florida rally tomorrow. Big crowd expected!
6,671 replies 2,946 retweets 16,167 likes

Captain Hate

When Trump redoes the EO he should add the Vatican to the seven countries.

peter

former Yankee with the lowest life time ERA of all Yankee pitchers announces his retirement LUN

lurkersusie

Great job for Brown

Scott Brown under consideration for ambassador to New Zealand - The Boston Globe

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/02/17/scott-brown-under-consideration-for-ambassador-new-zealand/TUb4gJ1S41S88Mdy0uXO4H/story.html

Jack is Back! (On his iPad)

Trump is doing exactly what he did to win.

"Keep 'Em Guessing"

Change it up once in a while.

It's political Shock & Awe. Imagine how our allies and enemies are trying to figure out how to approach a strong and determined America First! Stage one of his negotiation strategy.

buccaneer morgan.

The works of Allen drury who wrote mostly in the 60s and 70s and Charles mccarry who served in the wasp era of CIA ascendancy in the 60s, predicted this bizarre state of events, of an insurrectionary bureaucracy and media, particularly in better angels where there is an insurgent magnate turned president as their foil


lyle

I take "wine snob" as a term of endearment, windansea. 🍷❤️

daddy

Coming on the heels of the 400 year old Oak at Caltech dying from the human induced drought last week, Momma just texted me this: MASSIVE TREE FALLS IN PASADENA, CRUSHES CAR, NEARLY DESTROYS HOME

Pasadena: Authorities said they were worried the 100-year-old tree fell after the ground became saturated and the roots gave way.

With more wet weather just days away, officials said they were concerned that the area could see similar incidents.

boatbuilder

I thought the second half of the Super Bowl was the most fun a wingnut Pats fan could have with his clothes on. Until I listened to that Trump presser yesterday. Damn that was good!!

henry

Craft Beer of the Month arrived today. I just put "The Russians are Coming! The Russians are Coming!" in the DVD player. Seems appropriate.

All winning all day.

Jack is Back! (On his iPad)

Saw this on FBN the other morning: Fibonacci in the news. Just in time for St. Paddy's day.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/197732/20170216/mcdonalds-re-engineer-straw-to-let-you-drink-shamrock-shake-better.htm

boatbuilder

Fred proves the dweeb thing is no act, and reveals why he got so many wedgies in junior high school. His heart is generally in the right place, though.

buccaneer morgan.

Interesting this sort of trick sort of echoes berenson's first novel, where the terrorist leader tricks someone into setting off an explosion disguising as a contest


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/17/suspect-north-korea-killing-thought-she-was-taking-part-in-tv-prank-indonesia-siti-aisyah-police-kim-jong-nam

lurkersusie

McCain really needs to go

HuffPost Politics‏ @HuffPostPol

McCain torches Trump in Europe: White House "in disarray"
https://t.co/cHuI1DNgxb

boatbuilder

I recommended "The Russians are Coming! The Russians are Coming!" to a friend just last weekend. Great choice.

The Gipper Lives

Ah--the Good Old Days with Frank J. ...sweet! I know how it feels, though; I had to step away for some years.

But this last year was irresistible. And Sarah's right; we did indeed "Nuke the Moon" with Trump.

Porchlight

In Europe? What a dick move.

lyle

No shit, Porch.

daddy

Lou Dobbs has on an NSA whistleblower, William Binney Former NSA Senior Intelligence Officer, explaining the possible ways this leaked info was gathered, and then suggesting ways of how it could this data that could have been leaked:

William Binney ... I don't think there is any question that this came from the NSA programs. The problem is that it doesn't necessarily have to be NSA or NSA people in the NSA that leaked the conversations. It could have been people from CIA or FBI or DEA who also had direct access to that. But also I would say that these are very compartmented programs, so there are very few numbers of people who were involved in them, and they all get cleared for the programs, so they are all listed as to who has access to this data, and If they looked into the network logs, inside NSA, they could see who was accessing those files.

Lou: How long should it take, would it likely take, to have the FBI or have whatever Investigatory Agency, move in and determine who is responsible for these leaks?...

William Binney From analyzing the Network logs...I would think it would take no more than a day to figure out who was accessing it, so you end up with a set of people that they need to investigate more closely, have them come in and answer questions...

Lou: ...Have you ever seen anything like this against any Administration?

Binney" I haven't... I think people are reacting in a sense of heavy fear of what he might do and what he might achieve. From my perspective I think that some of the things he is doing are really starting to stimulate the Economy, and people are afraid that he is going to succeed too much and too well with that, and it might make them look really bad, and so I think they are going to try to...they know they are going to look even worse if the Economy starts really going...
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Binney says Trump can win this war, but he needs to put people in Jail and do this thru the DOJ.

Porchlight

Even for McCain, that's pushing it, lyle.

Tempts me to take a second look at those "Forrestal fire was McCain's fault" rumors.

JimNorCal

Do not watch if you be skeered of rats.
Girls execute Rube Goldberg plan to evict rat. Involves brooms, a stairway and someone filming it. Like hockey or curling....
Unbelievably, it works.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jodeball4REALZ/status/832625265239060481/video/1

Porchlight

1, 2, Sessions coming for you....

buccaneer morgan.

He was the one with the Nazi uncle, no:

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-nato-defence-eu-idUKKBN15V31O

Momto2

Porch - I hope they cannot sleep and are consumed with worry knowing they will be exposed!

Threadkiller

Just saw the CAMPBELL'S lesbian commercial.

Clams Chowder?

Porchlight

Happy Clam Chowder

Jack is Back! (On his iPad)

Porch,

Not a rumor but true. One of my friends was a squad mate on Forrestal with McCain. Heard the whole story.

When I was in DC he was one of our win-win guys. Very sane. Very approachable and easy to like. He has changed big time.

The Gipper Lives

re; Dobbs

Barnes is at least simpatico, not hostile. Kristol isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is. It took me some time, too. But "demeanor" got us Nork nukes, pardon sales, bad trade deals, open borders, winning a costly war and losing the peace, nukes for Iran, etc. Screw Demeanor.

I don't think Binney mentioned how Obama changed the rules on the last day so that previously tightly-compartmented NSA info could be shared with many agencies. Translation: "Please spy on Trump for me."

Funny how it took Obama 8 years to think of it.

Porchlight

JiB,

I dunno. My great-uncle assumed command of the Forrestal after the fire. He was actually on his way to take command when it happened. He probably knows the truth, but he never told us anything. The official story is that the rocket was sketchy ordnance and was mounted on another aircraft, unmanned at the time.

daddy

Pope tells U.S. summit “No people is criminal, no religion is terrorist”

Wrong. Islam is a terrorist religion. Read the damn Koran you nincompoop of a Pope. Geezus this imbecile makes me mad.

---we are presently witnessing a disturbing warming of the climatic system.”

---we also know what happens when we deny science and disregard the voice of nature,”

---“no people is criminal and no religion is terrorist. Christian terrorism does not exist, Jewish terrorism does not exist, and Muslim terrorism does not exist.”

Sorry guys, if these quotes are accurate, Pope Frances is one of the biggest and most self deluded fools on the planet. I don't take pleasure in saying it, but it needs to be said--- he is a dangerous enemy to our civilization that is built on Judeo-Christian values. He does not understand it, and he does not appreciate it. He's a nincompoop.

To the dogs...

buccaneer morgan.

He really became a jackals after the Keating inquest, nit in a good way:

https://mobile.twitter.com/GenKeithKellogg/status/832512778262810625?p=v

Captain Hate

Craft Beer of the Month arrived today.

Don't leave me hanging on this, dammit.

jor

lol -- the idiots here loved Trump's obvious lies about his electoral vote margin. you guys just don't care he lies straight to your face. its hilarious. But emails!!!

Also apparently Germany now angry at US

Petraues drops out for NSC

I guess this is what you mean by making America stronger around the world.

bunch of hypocrites. Its not trump that's the problem --- its the spineless, moral-less republicans that are letting this happen.

jor

Daddy -- is lying a judeo-christian value?
adultery?
greedy?
vanity?

Apparently they all are now. Stop pretending you are judeo-christian.

you are a white-nationalist. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.


jor

white-nationalism and fascism are the unifying trump principles.

Greedy, vanity, arrogance, lying, adultery, curelty are not judeo-christian.

These are fascist values -- that you all love.
stop pretending otherwise.

Threadkiller

Funny how it took Obama 8 years to think of it.

McCain just over 8 years ago:


Sen. Obama is a decent person and a person you don't have to be scared of as president of the United States,"

#Ineligibles

Clarice Feldman

I, too, enjoyed Sarah Hoyt's piece today/

henry

CH:

O'Fallon Brewery- Westport Wheat and Zeke's Pale Ale.
Not bad for a St Louis summertime quaff. So fit the warm spell here.

Calicraft Brewing- oak town Brown and Cali Coast Kolsch.
These look interesting... saving them for tomorrow.

Threadkiller

Who did you vote for, jor?

The Gipper Lives

How does it feel to be smarter than the Pope, daddy?

buccaneer morgan.

The interesting part of this story. If you read the linked memo is who likely provided it, the dismiss Mr ragsdale

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/17/homeland-security-on-ap-s-national-guard-absolutely-incorrect.html

Now re NATO since the German army drills with sticks and antiquated aircraft you can see how formidable they will be. Rught

Clarice Feldman

If you're looking for a nice inexpensive red to drink with steak or lamb--this has become a regular at our househttps://www.winecurmudgeon.com/wine-of-the-week-flaco-tempranillo-2014/

Truthbetold5

ILLUMINATI HUMAN TRAFFICKING & SATANIC RITUAL SACRIFICE EXPOSED

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hc7RBTj4DWQ&ebc=ANyPxKq9V6bBs6PQdrDXo54SYdjM8Y-ySS5etm9wRgra6jEgw5uNOSkpdr-SDjfS-uLIXIGwCXE3vEtcJjcb4VO_0ptU3HsXEQ

asw

peter 7:20PM That is a great story. Sorry he won't be in the HOF, but if love of the game counted most, he would be. Thanks for the link.

Reminds me of our president. A life lived flat out with gusto.

boatbuilder

"White." Check.
"Nationalist." Check.
Other White Nationalists: George Washington. John Adams. Thomas Jefferson. Winston Churchill. John F. Kennedy. Abraham Lincoln. Teddy Roosevelt. Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Charles DeGaulle. Ronald Reagan.

Learn some history, dope.

buccaneer morgan.

From the daily mail, Dr. Death panel, earl blumenauer thinks the 25th amendment is needed for trump. Or at least this is what it sounded like inside the straightjacket,

gentlejim

Henry,
Please don't leave Captain hanging on the craft beer of the month. We don't want him getting all redacted. :)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.thomaswictor.com/leakers-beware/

Thhis has a timeline of events surrounding the Russia story and the leaks. The author believes this was a sting created by Flynn and Trump.

Interesting read, although I have no way of knowing if this makes sense.

henry

Gentlejim, see my 8:31 for this month's selections. These end up being better than I expect most of the time -- only a couple that I haven't liked.

Truthbetold5

Breaking News!! General Flynn Targeted Over PedoGate Conversation

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JIoMJgj-D7k&ebc=ANyPxKq9V6bBs6PQdrDXo54SYdjM8Y-ySS5etm9wRgra6jEgw5uNOSkpdr-SDjfS-uLIXIGwCXE3vEtcJjcb4VO_0ptU3HsXEQ

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

I guess I musta busted me funny bone cuz bgates's punctuation in one comment is funnier than that entire Frank J Fleming essay.

Captain Hate

I'll have to look them up, henry; it's a great time to be a beer fan and Ohio is a very good state for it.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Long day today.

Nytol!

Clarice Feldman

extra cash burning a hole in your pocket? Here's a gofundme fund raiser for YOUhttps://www.gofundme.com/pizzaforthenewsroom

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

I really enjoyed the Sports Reporters, even when Lupica was there, so long as Dick Schaap or John Saunders was there to step on the little weasel's throat.
What a fitting epitaph to the tiny narcissist's career that he kills off such a good show.

Incidentally if you want a short fingered vulgarian, check out Lupica's hands.
He couldn't palm a grape.

buccaneer morgan.

For i minute I thought they were trying to bring back that Aaron sorkin series, but something's are beyond salvaging.

jor

Threadkiller -- IF i knew trump was gonna be president in 2016 -- woudla voted for romney in 2012 to prevent.

boatbuilder -- didn't realize honest abe -- was a serial liar?

re: kennedy -- I think we can all imagine trump saying "think not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your president"


white-nationalism/alt-right is facism. Its not white & nationalist. Its promoting anti-democracy. anti-free speech. Hence the nickname for opponents now is antifas (anti-fascists).

Trump isn't a patriot -- he has alienated nearly all US allies. (german, england parliment, australia, mexico, canada?)

jor

Don't worry though boatbuilder -- Trump has replaced those allies with someone that Reagan, Churchill, and Kennedy would all be proud of -- RUSSIA.

Insulting the patriotism of the U.S.A. to protect Vladamir Putin.

TRUE PATRIOTISM THERE.

jor

Trump must be the first president to pronounce moral equivalency with our enemies (Russia). Literally the first president ever.

you guys just don't care.

jor

Another country can't defeat America (Russia, ISIS, North Korea, Iran) ---- only we can defeat ourselves.

And luckily you guys are cheering on our own downfall by trying to destroy American insitutions (the judiciary (so much for consittuional conservative)), the free press (so much for freedom of speech), and capitalism (with kleptocracy)

A serial philanderer, who never believed in God -- is now the republican president.

gentlejim

Henry,

Refresh=friend
Me=idiot

:)

boatbuilder

Keep talking to yourself, fool.

Momto2

Does anyone else think CNN will be in Orlando at daybreak taking photos to dis the crowd size?

And they will be seeking out the protestors to interview or any odd-looking Trump supporter wearing suspenders and white socks.


Or will they ignore it altogether? We'll be watching to see!!!

Captain Hate

A serial philanderer, who never believed in God

JFK or Slick?

jor

Momoto2 -- OF course media will be in Florida -- good ratings. You guys are funny -- media likes Trump -- he is boosting ratings. Trump loves the media -- he is a creature of media.

boat-builder: facts hurt. that's why we now have alternative-facts. Just close your eyes and believe, the serial liar, adulterer, and con-man.

Clarice Feldman

I'll be on the orad for a week. If I miss any borthdays, etc. pls understand. I'll check in when I can. Try to behave. Nytol.

buccaneer morgan.

How far have you gotten with Oliver twist captain?

jor

Captain Hate: Slick + Trump
not sure about JFK

Trump makes Slick looks like an amateur. Highly suggest watching reporter help Trump understand election results.

If trump got rid of Bannon -- may still be salvagable. Don't think Trump is really a fascist or cares necessarily about american institutions or destroying them -- but people close to him clearly want to destroy them (Bannon)


-- n

boatbuilder

You called daddy a white nationalist, asshole. I am a white nationalist. As are all those other guys. Why is "white" a pejorative term to you? Are you a racist? Just because you make up a fake term and assign sinister beliefs to it doesn't change the meaning of the words.

Captain Hate

I'll finish it later tonight, narc. I recommended Klingsor to someone else today; 50/50 if he'll follow up on it.

jor

boatbuilder: I didn't come up with the term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism

Maybe its not the best name -- it has nothing to do with being white and being a patriot. its basically re-branded white supremacism -- but perhaps with a more fascist twist than previously.

Abraham lincoln, Reagan, JFK, Churchill et al. were not white nationalists per the definition at wikipedia.


buccaneer morgan.

It has history, science, a romantic triangle of sorts written by a Latino to boot, its a wonder it hasn't been optioned whets that brad Pitt vehicle did.

glenda

So, VP Pence accompanied McCain to this "globalist" gig--and no one advised: Mike--you're "sleeping with the enemy"?

Someone needs to inform John McCain's staff, family (or his Napoleonic self) he is; sadly: soiling his country, his President, his countrymen and oath of honor!
Have him look up: megalomaniacs anonymous :(

lurkersusie

A reminder on why we hate the media.

Venality and Vanities
by James Fallows

Chapter I Why We Hate the Media

https://t.co/Uo5Ixy48Kx

Captain Hate

not sure about JFK

You should be sure about him. Frank Sinatra called him "chickie boy" because he was so addicted to cooch. But the media covered for that plus his horrible health that caused him to ingest a small pharmacy every day.

His entire life was a lie, wrapped up with a bow on it by the media.

Threadkiller

Threadkiller -- IF i knew trump was gonna be president in 2016 -- woudla voted for romney in 2012 to prevent.

4 for 4.

It was tricky though.

I'll try again and I won't count it as a fifth failure if you gurggle another non-answer.

But I will certainly correct your miserable record if you give an actual answer.

Here goes.

Who did you vote for, jor?

Good luck!

boatbuilder

True, but the fake and racist wikipedia "definition " notwithstanding he was a white nationalist.

buccaneer morgan.

This is the centrist candidate?

www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/17/french-candidate-macron-sparks-protests-over-algeria-remarks.html

boatbuilder

You didn't make up the racist term but you're guite willing to throw it around. Does that mean you're not a racist or that you're just easily led?

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