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June 14, 2017

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JM Hanes

And not enough time.

Porchlight

I wouldn't classify this as "too much" news.

Porchlight

That said, good to see you TM, and thanks for the new thread. :)

JM Hanes

Taking a stab at the last page thingie. Guess we won't find out if it works till we get to page 2, so perhaps a more experienced operator might want to post a back-up thingie, just in case.

jimmyk

Shooter ID'ed:

Abby D. Phillip‏Verified account @abbydphillip 6m6 minutes ago

Shooter identified as 66-year-old Illinois man James T. Hodgkinson

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Why do cops hold these immediate press conferences when they know the only thing they're gonna say is "some guy got shot by some other guy; as for the rest we can't go into that or it's too early to say"?

Porchlight

That link should work, JMH. Thanks!

Porchlight

Lazy press, Iggy. They can waste time covering the press conference rather than doing real reporting.

Porchlight

Shooter identified as 66-year-old Illinois man James T. Hodgkinson

Social media pages and other evidence showing him to be a deranged leftist are being scrubbed as we type. Capture anything you find.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Also McAwful covered himself in glory by first claiming the rhetoric is too heated in America and we need to work together. This from Clinton gangster scum who has made a fortune and a career grifting and defaming.

Then going on and on about how 93 million Americans get shot every day because of all the guns on the street that shouldn't be there, but that now is not the time to talk about the thing I just talked about. Even some dim bulb reporter had to question 93 million and noted "you just talked about it".

Clarice Feldman

God bless Tom Maguire!

henry

Guy is from Belleville IL? (just east of St Louis ftsah)

Captain Hate

McAwful is in favor of the shooter retaining his voting rights if convicted.

henry

Too much "news" too few facts to report on it.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Social media pages and other evidence showing him to be a deranged leftist are being scrubbed as we type.--

Too late.

sbw

Link to the Last page.

Porchlight

Here's his FB page. Bernie supporter, friends appear to be lefties too.

https://www.facebook.com/james.hodgkinson.568

henry

Per this page, the shooter was a Bernie fan.

sbw

From the top of the facebook page, the guy looks a lot like Bernie.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Think AmEx will pull its sponsorship of assassination porn now?

Clarice Feldman

The shooter's FB page:https://www.facebook.com/jthodgkinson

Dave (in MA)

Looks like the shooter is a Comrade Bernie fan, according to what's supposed to be his Facebook page.

jimmyk

His facebook avatar is Uncle Sam, so he's obviously a Tea Party type.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Guy is from Illinois with strict gun control.
But Bernie's from Vermont which has lax gun control.
More gun control!

jimmyk

Think AmEx will pull its sponsorship of assassination porn now?

Someone posted here yesterday that they already did, but I haven't seen confirmation.

Janet the expert 🚬

http://heavy.com/news/2017/06/james-hodgkinson-alexandria-gop-baseball-shooter-shooting-gunman-identified-illinois/


from the heavy link - "1. Hodgkinson Is a Supporter of Bernie Sanders & Democratic Socialism Who Wrote on Facebook, ‘Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It’s Time to Destroy Trump & Co.’"

henry

Growing up, Belleville was a blue collar suburb much like Ferguson, but across the river. Not sure what it's like now.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Guy at City Journal makes the one point the left can't seem to grasp.

There are persuadables who are open to Trump being a short fingered vulgarian, but the progs' universally insane vituperative reaction make Trump look positively benign.
Winning!

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Someone posted here yesterday that they already did...--

Thanks for stepping on my snark with facts, jimmy.
H/t OL. :)

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Watch an Unhinged Kamala Harris Instructed to Simmer Down Again.
Edging toward "she will never be president", but not there yet.

Jack is Back!

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2017/06/too-much-news-as-usual/comments/99/#comments

glenda

Was shooter one of Creamer's associates, hired by Soros to riot against Trump?
Bernie pictures, but Hillary 2016 was his goal. How can this exposure of suspect be trusted ?

Sad to have a horrid first impression of FBI agent on scene with Mcauliffe to cry propaganda over American blood spilled by a politically- derangement infected man--thanks, Jimmy Comey, for reason to distrust your crew.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DO A SCREEN CAP!

Please get this! Shooter followed by CNN and NBC news reporter!

https://twitter.com/JTHInspections/followers

jimmyk

From shooter's FB page:

Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It's Time to Destroy Trump & Co.

I guess he tried start with the "& Co."

Libs R Sick

If the shooter is really from Illinois then he would require to have a Firearm Owners ID card (FOID - see below) in order to possess any type of firearm. Even if you received a gun as a gift from a family member you still need the FOID to possess the gun.

You can not touch a gun in a gun shop unless you show your FOID card first. You can not purchase ammo without showing your FOID card.

In addition, it appears the state runs a mental health background check every day against all FOID holders (see below).

Even person to person transfers required a call into a FOID card check number prior to sale.

As far as illinois conceal carry, there is a 16 hour training requirement, background checks and fees to obtain approval...in addition to FOID card.

So if is shooter from Illinois, a state which basically has universal background checks for all firearms and ammo purchases, it made absolutely no difference in stopping this guy. David Frum & McCauliffe have their heads up their asses.

Illinois Info -


FOID Card: "The Firearm Owner's Identification (FOID) Card identifies a person as eligible to possess/acquire firearms and firearm ammunition as part of a public safety initiative in the State of Illinois. "
https://www.ispfsb.com/

"FOID Revocation and Notification Process:
Mental Health Facilities

Each evening the Firearms Information and Resources Bureau sends the Illinois Department of Human Services (IDHS) a list of valid FOID card holders and DHS checks the list for any individuals who have been committed to a state hospital for mental health purposes. DHS then alerts the ISP FIRB of any FOID card holders that have been committed."

lurkersusie

Excellent article,

Mícheál Breathnach @dkahanerules

Only conclusion one can draw from this fine @AndrewCMcCarthy piece is that the JD should shut down Mueller, pronto.
The Special Counsel: The Swamp’s Watchdog for Trump
amgreatness.com
10:18 AM · Jun 14, 2017

https://amgreatness.com/2017/06/14/special-counsel-swamps-watchdog-trump/

glenda

Wow, MM...it was CNN reporter, Barbara Starr that fed prepared gun control question to Mcauliffe...it brought back Donna Brazille memories of "DNC colluding4Hillary"

JM Hanes

Over on the CNN page TM linked, their "News Alert" banner reads:

"Police say it is much too early to determine motive in attackat GOP baseball practice that left five injured, including suspect."

We may not know precisely why he apparently wanted to kill Republicans, but in any number of cases lately, I've been struck by the rather bizarre usage of the term "suspect." I suppose it's based on legal terms of art, but in this case, for example, Scalise's security detail didn't take down someone suspected of being a shooter, they took down a perpetrator in action. Ditto for the use of "alleged" I saw elsewhere, as in the "alleged shooter."

I do think people sometimes misunderstand the concept of innocent till proven guilty under the law. It seems to me that when it comes to terrorism, more so than in this particular case, the idea that we're obliged to avoid stating the obvious till it's been "proven" in a court of law, has turned into a kind of pervasive neurosis. Even here, however, the CNN story hedges on "what sources are calling an apparent 'deliberate attack.'" As opposed to what? I daresay this is clear enough to go with an unqualified "deliberate attack." And yet, when it comes to accusations of political criminality and wrong doing, we're suddenly all loosey goosey again.

On a perhaps related note, I'm counting down till we hear that this is the inevitable consequence of the climate of hate created by Trump and the alt.right.

henry

Miss M, here is the "archive.is" link to your page:

http://archive.is/aUFhX

Dave (in MA)

On Boston radio this morning on my way in just as I was hearing about this for the first time, they were already arguing about gun control.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

I think we need to hold a candlelight vigil, complete with Teddy Bears to guard against the inevitable backlash against murderous progs.
Progophobia is real, man.

henry

The lefties are predictable

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Not sure what this creep used but if it was a rifle, even a 223, pretty hard to shoot 4 or 5 people and not even inflict a life threatening wound.

henry

Trump speaks live. hasn't started yet.

sbw

even a 223

Ig, I thought about a noob with an OTC AR, not sighted in, and cheap target ammo.

henry

Trump... "assailant has now died"

Captain Hate

Someone posted here yesterday that they already did

I think they're trying to have it both ways, pulling their name from the banner of the play but still sponsoring the group performing it, a stance they might be now regretting.

Account Deleted

"Hi! My name's Kamala Harris. I'm a Negro and a woman. It's my turn. No matter what. Remember slavery?"


She's a Marxist lightweight with The Bath House Rat being the foul wind beneath her wings.


Down, grrl. Do your three terms in the Senate first or go the way of Rubio and other exuberants who thought that just showing up was enough to run with the big dawgz.


Have watched her destroy the rule of law in San Francisco, Sacramento before her win after Babs Boxer hung up her lammay pantalones and flat shoes now that she's a 5 figure millionaire living in the Divaland of Palm Springs.


Harris is a vile creature from the inside out. And showing it.

Threadkiller

When does the USS Scalise get commissioned?

Jane

We can all rest easy. According to Terry McAuliffe 92 million people are killed each day with guns, so we will all be shot long before the seas rise and drown us.

sbw

Jane!

glenda

Has Kerry or Obama's girl, Merkel, blamed Climate Change, yet?

Prayers for all JOM'ers with health issues 😇 and the safety and common sense restoration America needs.

Off to spend time with the fabulous grandson, who finished 10th grade with a 97.125 average, rising to 27th in his class of 600.
^^^^^^
Living with Autism, excelling beyond expectations! Never give up your hope and faith in God's grace---especially, on dark days 😊🇺🇸

Threadkiller

I posted the NY Post story yesterday. The latest jives with what Jimmy and CH are saying.

http://wnd.com/2017/06/american-express-keeps-funding-trump-killing-play/

Janet the expert 🚬

Related to Ignatz 11:13 link

"Once again, people who consider Donald Trump too impulsive, emotional, and vindictive to be President are instead revealing those qualities in themselves, and in the institutions they control and represent.
So far, the defining feature of the Trump presidency has been the exposure of how hollow our institutions have become. In trying to delegitimize him, they demonstrate their own illegitimacy." ~ Glenn Reynolds

Dave (in MA)

Where did he claim that, Jane?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

LOL, Jane.

He claimed it TWICE at the news conference before some reporter corrected him.

henry

Jane, that's just in Chicago.

Barbara

OMG, he was from Belleville, Illinois. Small town American, good people there.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Right click for investing in a nutshell;

Dave (in MA)

back from Google...

He said 93 million. Let's get our facts straight here, people. ;)

Captain Hate

He claimed it TWICE at the news conference before some reporter corrected him.

Crooked and dumb is hard to fix.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Jane was trying to make it sound more plausible.

Dave (in MA)

He was only off by roughly 93 million.

Account Deleted

POTUS will use aikido force against the emoCrats special counsel ploy. He's using it against them.


If POTUS listens to the shoulds, who are stuck on Patrick Fitzgerald and two-timer Bush, he keeps the "he's got something to hide meme going."


Mueller has been flipped. Comey was fired before he could shred. He was across the country. The press is so schteppid all they could focus on was how mean it was to do it like that. And the global community of human resource hacks bemoaned that POTUS should have been more courteous.

Bloodsport is neither kind nor courteous. Nothing says "You're done" like a boss pulling the plug while you're out preening on a beach or at a do-nothing, resume-building conference.

What a putz. POTUS has files.

From just 20 days ago:

http://amgreatness.com/2017/05/24/comey-affair-will-decisive-victory-president/

from 74 days ago: (note the dirt on Mueller)

http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/03/james-brien-comey-how-did-the-fbi-director-make-1-on-americas-most-wanted-list/

Old Lurker

So without having gone back to review today's comments on the previous mile long thread, are you guys just waiting for me to be crass enough to ask why House Republicans are out playing Baseball on a school day? Are we to assume they have finished all their homework?

Yessiree. Getting the work of the people done, they are.

henry

letters to editor of Belleville paper.

Dublindave

Time for another conversation on tighter gun control I fear.

Account Deleted

Clinton's deranged bag-man is a spazz. Welcome to the meat grinder mini-Bubba.

matt, deplore me if you must

"We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;"

Welcome to Washington.


Jane

He claimed it TWICE at the news conference before some reporter corrected him.

Think about how out of touch someone has to be to even let that come out of his lips.

Seems like it's time to do something as apparently the lefty revolution has clearly started.

JimNorCal

Posted already but ...

Account Deleted

"Right click for investing stock market gaming in a nutshell;

FIFY

Captain Hate

OL going where even I won't.

Account Deleted

Gotta go grind, and grind some more.

Watch that blood pressure y'all.

Captain Hate

Will Ralph have to renounce one of her few loyal viewers?

andhillarytoo

i blame griffen and nyc's julius caesar play for inciting this violence

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I had to run out for a second.

henry, thanks for the archive link, which is now being overloaded and I can't get in.

One of the followers was Andrew Kazynski of CNN. The reason I noticed it was when I went to the twitter page on the lower left it popped up with "people you both follow" and there was Kazynski of CNN. So then I went and looked at the other followers and saw an NBC crime reporter!

I don't know how long they have been following him (maybe they did this morning) but it sure did jump out at me. I wonder if there is a way to figure out when they started following him.

Account Deleted

On my way out the door, I spied "Rachel Maddow for President" group on that Facebookie lookin screencap.

Why would anyone vote for somebody who's intellect has all the force of a cow staring at a new gate?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I wasn't clear. On the shooters page it said "people you know who follow this account." The page is of his other people who followed the shooter, of which there were only 90.

henry

Kev, read his letters to the editor linked above. He has the IQ of the pile growing behind that cow.

jimmyk

There's been a report one deceased in VA. Hoping it's the shooter.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--somebody who's intellect has all the force of a cow staring at a new gate--

That's funny.

Dave (in MA)

OL, it was a 6 AM practice for a charity game that happens every year. Any time any member of Congress is not "getting things done" is A-OK with me.

Frau Goldgräberin

(I hate to load up the new thread--boundless gratitude to our host TM--but this is for CH who may have been one of first to make for the exit.)
CH -

The bestselling, Man Booker Prize-winning novel hailed as "a true achievement. Catton has built a lively parody of a 19th-century novel, and in so doing created a novel for the 21st, something utterly new. The pages fly."--New York Times Book Review

It is 1866, and Walter Moody has come to stake his claim in New Zealand's booming gold rush. On the stormy night of his arrival, he stumbles across a tense gathering of 12 local men who have met in secret to discuss a series of unexplained events: a wealthy man has vanished, a prostitute has tried to end her life, and an enormous cache of gold has been discovered in the home of a luckless drunk. Moody is soon drawn into a network of fates and fortunes that is as complex and exquisitely ornate as the night sky.

Richly evoking a mid-nineteenth-century world of shipping, banking, and gold rush boom and bust, THE LUMINARIES is at once a fiendishly clever ghost story, a gripping page-turner, and a thrilling novelistic achievement. It richly confirms that Eleanor Catton is one of the brightest stars in the international literary firmament.


849 pages. The NZ setting is especially enjoyable.

Porchlight

It is excellent to see McCarthy writing for American Greatness.

first draft

if obama and bernie supporters were banned from owning firearms, gun related incidents would drop 98%. however, they would ignore that law so sending them to mexico is the only solution.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

A look at the monster the ADA has become.
JAISI [just as its sponsors intended]

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Roger Kimball of The New Criterion writes there too, Porch.

Barbara

Wait for it, but as soon as the media gets over being caught off guard and off message, they will turn this around and blame Conservatives and the President.

They need to coordinate and get their marching orders, but there is no way that they are going to let the blame rest where it correctly belongs - on their rampant, hate filled campaign against President Trump.

Old Lurker

Dave "OL, it was a 6 AM practice for a charity game that happens every year."

OK, even I won't complain about a 6am practice. Even by my crazy expectations, that is their own time...

Thanks for the detail, Dave.

henry

Sanders is already on backpeddle... the shooter was a volunteer for him in Iowa. (it is a tradition for IL voters to cross state lines for voting).

Jane

WEll I just watched Paul Ryan make a beautiful speech about how we are all one today and we are together, and I wanted to tell him to go to hell - that's how cynical I've become. Now nancy pelosi is talking about the same stuff, albeit almost incomprehensibly, and I want to throw my show at the TV. (Of course I've only worn flip flops for the last 2 years, so I can't.)

The entire group of them are ridiculous.

Jane

Shoe, not show.

Jane

The entire group IS ridiculous. And now I will shut up.

Captain Hate

Thanks, Frau. Man Booker award *and* a prominent NYTBR placement? I can't believe one of the participants hasn't shriekingly demanded that we tackle that.

Captain Hate

Welcome to the dark side, Jane.

rse

frau-did you see me say thanks and that I have ordered that book?

henry

Ryan "we are all together" because doing something about people who are trying to kill us all "is not who we are."

Stick the flowers / candles / teddy bears where the sun don't shine Mr Speaker.

Frau Goldgräberin

Congress has used this event to take another vacation? Far be it from our elected representatives to get busy doing some WORK for their pay and perks!
Pfui.
Double Pfui!

matt, deplore me if you must

No, we are not all one. The Left is doing its best to assure that. The common values are no longer common. The comity and tolerance that has marked our political culture has been abused.

This is all right out of Alinsky and the Bolshevik playbook.

They have dialed it to 11. Blood is now on their hands.

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