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August 15, 2017

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Beasts of England

Dare I say...

 narciso.

I was asking if you had heard of otrag, that wee a Germanic predecessor to space x

henry

Does the chaos ladder have all the required OSHA labels? Was it made in the US or is it one of those cheap imports?

Beasts of England

I have not, narciso. Sorry I missed where you asked me that earlier...

 narciso.

This was a a primer:
http://jalopnik.com/5913964/the-first-private-rocket-company

Sort of like drax aerospace in moonraker

 narciso.

Its a wonder he has been able to get anything done,

Http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/mcmasters-obama-dont-call-them-holdovers.php

These are the harkonnen spies in the palace

henry

On the press conference. Trump was sane. The press were demented. They need to be put in rubber rooms and monitored so they don't harm themselves. They've gone beyond narrative into fantasy land.

cboldt

"incendiary" is, I dunno, so common. How about "inflammatory" or "malevolent" or "divisive" or "demagogic" or "rabble-rousing"?

WaPo called it "off-the-rails." Why not just out and say it was a "train wreck"?

As if saying so, makes it so!!!!

cboldt

"Explosive" and some of its synonyms might do the chore, as well.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Musical interlude: The Band - "The Night They Drove Ol' Dixie Down"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM

Let us take a moment to contemplate Donald J. Trump, the quintessential New Yorker, defending
the South and their traditions.

Beasts of England

Very nice, Miss Marple!! :)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

How I know it was a GREAT press conference is that the following people didn't like it:

F. Chuck Todd
Kat Timpf
Eboni Williams
Dr. Jill Stein
Paul Ryan (I bet cash money he said "that's not who we are")
Marco Rubio

Just a small sampling of discomfited press and pols.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Beasts,

Glad you liked it. I was very pleased to run across that version on Conservative Treehouse and not the one by the odious peacenik Joan Baez.

Beasts of England

I looked it up a minute ago, narciso - slightly before my time. :)

Here's another link, and a valuable site for all things space-y...

http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/otrag.htm

Marlene

Beasts,who won the Senate election today?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

"Incendiary" seems OK to me.
Just think of Trump as a B-29 and the press as Tokyo.

Beasts of England

The polls just closed, Marlene. I expect a run-off - probably between Strange and Moore, but don't quote me on that. :)

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Didn't Baez get the words wrong?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Sorry. I meant "odious peacenik Baez".

 narciso.

Also godzilla does Jim acosta think he's Raymond burrow.

Beasts of England

Roy Moore rode a horse to his polling place this morning. In a cowboy hat. The judge, not the horse...

Jack is Back!

Yowza! The man shows up and the fraidycats are revealed big time. Talk about reviving the base and just in time. Suck it up snow flakes.

cboldt

The press pretends it is neutral, and gets offended when it is correctly identified as "enemy" and "subversive." The press isn't going to change, and Trump isn't going to fall for it "neutrality" fiction. It's war. And Trump is going for the win.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Through my pal Thomas Wictor on Twitter, I ran across this guy who often exchanges comments with him. He is the author of a new book "Gander", which you can read about here.

https://www.amazon.com/Gander-Terrorism-Incompetence-National-Socialism-ebook/dp/B01MSYT0PI/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502843383&sr=1-2&keywords=gander

Out of the blie, he got a call from General Michael Flynn about the book.

Here is the twitter thread in which he discusses the call:

https://twitter.com/Debradelai/status/897609680192753664

narciso

Now if I could quibble on A grand slam performance he should been cleared on bannon,

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

Has't someone said this will be the the next step?

"City lawmakers have tried to legislate for his remains to be taken away - along with a statue on the grave - but activists say the process is too slow"

IMO, this is a crime.

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

The link for 08:33

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3173456/Vigilante-protesters-start-DIGGING-body-Confederate-general-Nathan-Forrest-KKK-leader-grave.html

narciso

Small world miss marple i know the patriarch of that family,

henry

Chaos. The unplanned. AKA the market. Trumps succeeds there, middle America prospers there. Politicians and dopes like jor fear it.

Jack is Back!

You are watching the 21st century version of bone pickers and night soil men.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

narciso,

Small world, indeed! He's an excellent follow on Twitter, where I am slowly weeding out the irrational, crazy, and subversive.

I expect pretty soon I will be down to Saul, Thomas, 0Hour, and cute kitty and puppy pictures.

maryrose

Pagar:
I am appalled by this and yes it is a crime.

Porchlight

The only Game of Thrones worth watching is this:

Winter Is Trumping

Hilarious. I don't know or care if the makers of this like the guy.

All I know is the First Rule of Trump: Everything anti-Trump eventually becomes pro-Trump.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I wish I were a billionaire. I would commission about 500 Trump statues and wherever they removed a Confederate statue, I would have a Trump statue put up overnight.

henry

I am stunned to see Trump's visual aid for infrastructure-- the 10 year minimum flow chart for regulatory approval to be cut to 2 years max to yes or no. Part of the Foxconn deal in WI was a similar streamlined path through permits. It is the main reason every Democrat in WI will vote and campaign against $10 billion in investment and 30,000 high paying jobs. No wonder deep state hates Trump and Walker. They both shove the petty tyrant gov compliant consultants out the door. This is a huge win if it gets past Congress.

narciso

He was trained as a chemist, but is a historian on aviation issues he even held a correspondence with filloy the author of that dense tale I recommended to captIn

henry

Narciso, chemistry training is the best preparation for life. ;)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

narciso,

I can't buy the book, but I am gong to put it in reserve at the library. I want to read it.

Captain Hate

Didn't Baez get the words wrong?

Yes; drove on the Danville train instead of served.

Janet the expert 🚬

"Why weren't the Confederate monuments removed when Obama was president? Why now? Need we even ask." - Jennifer V.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

These two videos are not definitive, but they seem to indicate the driver panicking after being attacked, IMO;
Beginning.
End.

Porchlight

Hey, NYC-area JOMers!

I will be in town on Friday, September 15th. Anyone down for a meetup that afternoon? Staying in the Lincoln Center neighborhood. Will be meeting lib college friends for the weekend, so a sanity respite would be greatly appreciated. :)

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Yes; drove on the Danville train instead of served.--


Joan can't hold a candle to the mangling Mick Jagger did to Arizona towns in Route 66. :)

narciso

We have been in a proxy war with the sepah paadaran for nearly 40 years now now virtually all Lebanon experts like Wright, Morton flathead whitewashed that part of the story re Beirut re squirrel this of course was the training ground that led to Buenos Aires in the 90s, and it's not out of the question they were partially involved with Lockerbie, of course who held the national security portfolio related to external operations in the 80s, three guessed

Captain Hate

Also she said "so much cavalry" instead of Stoneman's. Two botches out of the gate.

Porchlight

The very idea of Baez performing that song is nauseating.

Janet the expert 🚬

Vigilante-protesters-start-DIGGING-body-Confederate-general-Nathan-Forrest-KKK-leader-grave.html

Can the citizens of Virginia dig up the Boston Bomber Islamic jihadist that was shipped here & buried? One of the Tsarnaev losers is buried here.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

henry,

They have arrested the first person in that statue toppling incident:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/15/college-student-22-arrested-for-her-role-in-toppling-confederate-statue-in-north-carolina.html

narciso

Times up, it was this guy:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-hassan-rouhani-us.html?referer=http://drudgereport.com/">http://drudgereport.com/">https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-hassan-rouhani-us.html?referer=http://drudgereport.com/

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Are they going to disinter Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

This Charlottseville thing gives new meaning to;

"Virgil, quick come see, there goes Robert E. Lee" [on a flat bed, to the scrap yard]

Clarice Feldman

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/trump-tells-the-truth-and-the-press-goes-crazy.php

Iggy-Thomas Wictor did a still shot series of that car and came to an opposite conclusion on twitter the other day.

narciso

Who was asking about this:

https://decisiondeskhq.com/results/us-senate-alabama-special-republican-primary/

narciso

Regardless there is more than meets the eye.
When the left gets on their high dungeon the truth gets trampled

Miss Marple the Deplorable

One of the things I have noticed over the years is the deterioration in textbook quality, both in information and language.

I used to collect old textbooks just to satisfy my itch to be able to PROVE education was deteriorating. This started when my son was in high school and thought that the Dunkirk evacuation was from somewhere up around Denmark. The reason he thought that was because there wasn't a dang map in his entire history book!

If you browse an antique or used book store and run across one of these older books, pick it up and take a look. You will be stunned at the difference when compared to modern books.

Newer editions of old favorites get "updated" as well. The mice dressed as American Indians in a Richard Scarry book were disappeared because they weren't PC. I was so mad I went on eBay and bought the older editions to save.

Libraries also purge books, so if it is an older edition it either gets sold or thrown away.

This is why I dislike Kindle as a sole source of reading. You never know when things will be "fixed."

RattlerGator

I'm not able to follow the board as closely as I would like right now (binge-watching Game of Thrones for the first time ever; should be caught up by this weekend -- taking a break tonight) but I wanted to give a shout-out to Kev. I saw the post where you talked about your surgery.

All the best to you, my brother.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I forgot to mention the pint of my post at 9:35.

The point is that they want to erase history and our culture. Books, statues, building names, whatever.

narciso

Sanford Baltimore ferguson that drowning in the Hudson river, those are just some examples then they cover with a pillow stories like Dallas and new Orleans Orlando et al

Skoot

Pres. Trump: "I don't know if you know, but they had a permit. The other group didn't have a permit."

Yup. Court ordered permitted speech (bedrock of this nation) vs axe wielding black masked thugs rioting in the street.

Trump understands. And he has the balls to say it.

Barbara

Do we know anything about why the driver was in the area of the protest in Charlottesville? Was he caught up in the traffic as other vehicles were?

narciso

Sorry baton rouge, they rode the squirrel away from Blanco and nagin.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I tell you guys, Wictor always finds interesting stuff.

Here is a recording of a real Rebel Yell, something I had never heard but only read about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLMroT2euQ

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19776/trumps-epic-presser-clarifies-three-truths-have-john-nolte

Davod

Norman Rockwell's One of the four freedoms - Freedom of speech.

https://www.nrm.org/wp2016/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Freedom_of_Speech_5_6_meta.jpg

Comanche Voter

A lot of those reporters are simply flaming A Holes. No other words will do to describe them.

Free James D!

I think there are plenty of other words, CV, and "flaming a-holes" is on the polite and kindly end of the spectrum.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

He's ok. It's his knee.

http://pagesix.com/2017/08/15/rudy-giuliani-gets-emergency-surgery-after-falling-on-vacation/?_ga=2.186958504.1402967747.1502848532-7203330.1502848532

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/08/15/on-eve-of-nafta-re-negotiations-manufacturing-ceos-and-richard-trumka-drop-masks/#more-137243

Janet the expert 🚬

at the very least, Robert Bryd's name should be taken off of all these things -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_after_Robert_Byrd

 narciso.

But of course Grey poupon

https://mobile.twitter.com/pspoole/status/897625599254175744/photo/1

jimmyk

a sanity respite would be greatly appreciated.

Hey Porch, would love to meet up! I'm walking distance from Lincoln Center. No guarantee of sanity though. It's the Upper West Side.

jimmyk

Norman Rockwell's One of the four freedoms - Freedom of speech.

Dead white male. If you said that on any college campus you would be guilty of a triggering offense.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

narciso,

To quote the now famous saying:

"Shit like that is why you got Trump."

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Prints of Rockwell's Four Freedoms hung in the hall at my grade school. Looked at them every day while waiting in line for lunch.

Janet the expert 🚬

To go with Henry's 8:46 comment - President Trump Gives a Statement on the Infrastructure Discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoUwQCsPVj4

The first 3 or 4 minutes gives you the idea.
Wonderful.

Skoot

Seurat's "A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grand Jatte" hung in the grade school hall where I stood in line for lunch :) Love that thing.

Captain Hate

Can't remember last time someone compared Robert E Lee to George Washington .... Trump really is in a league of his own. Its quite hilarious.

What's really hilarious is watching a dumbass get manipulated by the MFM. Have you ever read a history book?

Frau  Freiheit

This was not even a dog whistle. It was loud and clear to the anti-protesting thugs:

"As long as that expression is peaceful, that is their right. But it is also the right of every American to deny those ideas more attention than they deserve.

The law according to Unindicted Crook McAuliffe: I--not you!--get to decide how much attention your free speech deserves.

 narciso.

Probably only Howard Zinn, and in cliff notes form,

Janet the expert 🚬

on FB -

"This is the world we live in today in America! Black people of today who were never slaves fighting white people who were never Nazis over Confederate statues erected by Democrats, because Democrats can't stand their own history anymore and somehow it's Trump's fault? Interesting!" ~ Beverly M.

Buford Gooch

It looks like Moore is going to be the new Senator from Alabama. He will almost certainly get Brooks' votes in the runoff.

DrJ

I think Beasts was right (WSJ):

Roy Moore, Sen. Strange Head to Runoff in Alabama GOP Senate Primary

Evangelical conservative Roy Moore was leading in a special Senate election Tuesday, out-polling Sen. Luther Strange despite support for the incumbent from President Donald Trump and the GOP establishment in Washington.

Janet the expert 🚬

Perhaps The Civil War by Ken Burns should be edited to take out all the Southern viewpoints & letters & memories.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--I forgot to mention the pint of my post at 9:35.--

Thought you said you were cutting back.

Janet the expert 🚬

Sorry PBS.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

LOL, Ignatz!

I am the all-time champ of typos.

Part of it is that my computer keyboard is so old that some of the letters have almost worn off. (I am not a touch typist.)

Also, I always forget to hit preview.

 narciso.

That would be Buford, Moore certainly had a following among mist parts of the conservative coalition

Tom Maguire
Didn't Baez get the words wrong?

Yes; drove on the Danville train instead of served.

Without Binging I will add that Ms. Baez sang

"I swear by the blood below my feet..." instead of "...mud below my feet."

Kind of amazing she never got a copy of the lyrics and just sang what she (thought) she heard.

Janet the expert 🚬

I'd vote for Roy Moore because he is BRAVE.

simply stupid

GOPe will paint Moore as too far to the right and will spend like crazy to pull him down.

The only thing Congress is good for is naming Buildings after hemselves. Trump should issue an executive order to study the renaming of Federal Buildings like Janet stated above about all the Robert Byrd named buildings. Same thing with the William Fulbright Buildings. Let the Democrats take Trump to court to state that he can not take Byrd's name of Buildings.

Dave (in MA)

There's a Band cover band called The The Band Band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvCbgv7OJa4

JimNorCal

Sad to see this article at PowerLine.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/daca-at-the-five-year-mark.php
” … today is the fifth anniversary of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. DACA is President Obama’s lawless amnesty diktat. It enables adult illegal aliens who claim to have come to the U.S. before age 16 to get work permits, Social Security numbers, driver’s licenses, etc. Nearly 800,000 people have done so.

Candidate Donald Trump promised to end DACA on β€œday one.” Like much of his campaign rhetoric, the promise was empty. DACA remains in place. β€œ

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Iggy-Thomas Wictor did a still shot series of that car and came to an opposite conclusion on twitter the other day.--

OK, but it's gettin close to 'who am I gonna believe, Wictor or my lyin eyes' territory with those videos.

In the first video the Challenger is clearly crawling along until the guy hits it with a baseball bat and the crowd closes in around him and then he takes off, seemingly trying to avoid the crowd at first. In the second video he crashes into the car in front and the crowd is bashing his car in and he backs up. If his intention was killing, there were sidewalks completely full of people to either side of the car he hit but instead he backs up though many fewer people at a much lower rate of speed and runs.

If I was a juror and I was shown those videos I would have a hard time not forming reasonable doubt about anything besides maybe involuntary manslaughter. Not sure what the law is, but is a guy even responsible for involuntary manslaughter if a crowd starts bashing his car and he fears for his life? If he was running from a crowd swinging baseball bats, seems to me the guys with the bats ought to be on trial for the girls death.

-peter

NYC meetup with porchie September 15th? I will check my calendar and let you know!

jimmyk

Not sure what the law is, but is a guy even responsible for involuntary manslaughter if a crowd starts bashing his car and he fears for his life?

That, of course, depends on his race and political affiliation. You know better than that.

Seriously, I think in normal times juries would be pretty forgiving on this even if it were prosecuted. (Think Bernard Goetz, which was different in detail but not in spirit.) And we've seen juries that buck PC media madness, as with St. Trayvon and St. Michael Brown. So six months from now in a different venue I think he'll have a chance to make his case on the merits.

Dave (in MA)

Everybody has to jump on the bandwagon. At Fort Warren in George's Island in Boston Harbor there is a memorial to 13 Confederate soldiers who died there while being held as POWs. Now there's a push to get it removed, perhaps to be placed in a museum. Narciso will enjoy the 6th name.

Another Bob

Re. the car crash, anyone else noticing the C'ville narrative change?

Sunday-Monday it was all about the "murder", I read one moron call it "The Charlottesville Massacre".

Late yesterday and today it was nothing but OMG NAZIS, TRUMP. As if people know the "murder" story is about to evaporate.

Dave (in MA)

Speaking of screwed-up cover songs, Black Sabbath did a cover of this song on their first album.
Leave it to Ozzy to not only screw up the lyrics, but get the line wrong that was the whole point of the song, and is what the title describes.

Beasts of England

If I had to bet, I'd say that Moore prevails in the runoff. McTurtle spent about four million to keep Strange and it will likely backfire. Both Brooks and Moore took Mitch - and by proxy, Strange - to task for not repealing Obamacare. The ads bought by the senate fund were ridiculous. Alabamans - like most Southerners - don't much cotton to being told what to do by outsiders...

Beasts of England

And that was not a political comment - just a regional interest aside. ;)

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