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August 21, 2017

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henry

guidance system? in a crowded sea lane like that there would be more going on than GPS... where you are matters only in relation to where others are, plus momentum vectors of each. That is more radar and plotting than GPS. with eyeball backup.

The notion that PC issues crowded out functional job training and performance reviews is a stronger candidate for fault.

Can't blame everything on the Russians (or Chinese, etc).

boris

So, self driving ships don't work huh.

Jack is Back!

I still go with human error or command error. Either way the commander, EO and command chief are toast. Electronic counter measures on the ship would pick up any hacking immediately. If it is hacking then every ship in the Navy is vulnerable.

Kevlar Kid

third. not bad. ;)

Clarice Feldman

It is distressing--the 4th such incident. either Obama fired all the good officers and replaced them with nitwits like himself or something's not right with the radar /gps system.I think henry nailed it myself.

Maybe less time on diversity training and transgender awaremenss and more time on actual safety and navigation drills.

Obama left everything in a grand mess.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jack,

I sent you an email back. You gave me something to do besides looking for Communists around every corner!

sbw

The article on Ian Reid photog of Charlottesville screams for appeals to civil, non-politicized police force.

Not mentioned in the article.

DebinGA

BOzo's Sec of the Navy served through both terms and focused on social and climate change.

Clarice Feldman

Yes, Deb--B.S. all the way from the WH to the decks of our ships.

 narciso.

He was a governor of Mississippi and for ambassador to the kingdom back during the khobar towers attack.

anonamom

cboldt, yes--my cousins live in Grand Haven and Grand Rapids. I was there last summer. Lovely area. Grand Haven is idyllic. Well, in the summer! ;-)
It was a great place for her to raise her sons.

Momto2

Happy Eclipse day, JOMers. Somehow I have a test scheduled right in the middle of the eclipse. Angiogram to check progress of bruised artery from the accident. I'm already a bit paranoid about being in a vehicle and now will have to be transported downtown in the middle of this big event. I guess my son will have the headlights on.

Prayers for our missing sailors and their families. Stay safe everyone!

Ralph L

The Command Master Chief has a master's in Counseling, so everything will be fine.

 narciso.

If you read between the lines they had enough canisters to cause multiple attacks including sagrada familia with vbieds


www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/20/imam-behind-barcelona-terror-cell-had-links-madrid-bomber

Captain Hate

Sounds like Zippy removed all the Jack Aubreys and replaced them with Wrongway Fuzznuts of Fluid Gender. What could go wrong?

Marlene

The USS John S. McCain was built at Bath Iron Works in 1994. This is a dumb question,but the technology and training are constantly updated on the ship over the course of 23 years I assume? What a tragedy. The Navy is also having issues with aircraft.

Extraneus

So now they're all over Trump for saying "that's too bad," as if Obama cared more about the military.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/20/source-mcmaster-fails-to-brief-trump-before-thats-too-bad-error/

Captain Hate

Zippy cared more about the military? Yes, run with that, MFM; it's very entertaining.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

It is my opinion that this McMaster vendetta is being driven by people who want to act like they are THE experts on security, foreign policy, and globalists.

I am sick of it. President Trump is an experienced executive with an understanding of what is needed in each positioin.

I am sick of the backseat drivers who gin up these controversies, and that includes Breitbart, as well as Cernovich and others.

If I thought that President Trump needed some keyboard glory hound to run this country, I would have supported someone else.

henry

Gwen Moore calling Trump crazy. Try denouncing people who slash get out the vote van tires Gwen. What? That was your son?

Captain Hate

Pope: Rights of migrants trump national security concerns

-AP

DebinGA

BOzo was about to give a political speech somewhere when the Fort Hood massacre occurred. Rather than feigning some semblance of solemnity and remarking on the massacre, a smiling BOzo began his speech with shout-outs to VIP attendees in the audience. That's what BOzo thought of the military.

henry

National security concerns trump popes.

Another Bob

cboldt, from the last thread, GPS is indeed used for collision avoidance. The AIS system sends lots of sensor data, including GPS position, as a digital message similar to transponders on aircraft. Receivers use this messaging to construct displays of relative location of other traffic in the area. It's supposed to augment radar.

 narciso.

Was this related,

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/08/21/normal-americans-are-bored-by-the-fake-drama-n2371131

Well the backstabbing aimed at trump is coming from someone, and practically every avowed trump supporter has been forced out.

As you see, this networks always one experienced network at the wheel, the Spanish like the French or the British keep putting hardened terrorists in with petty crooks then they release them back into one of the support camps, ie the 79 salafist facilities through Catalan and northern spain, what do they expect will happen?

 narciso.

Can he be that tone deaf, one of these migrant bans almost blew up one of the largest churches in spain, this follows a similar attempt with Notre dame cathedral last year

Captain Hate

Exactly, Deb; the [Michael] most brilliant orator ever to occupy the Oval Office [/Medved] was determined to give those shout outs and nothing was going to get in the way of that. Plus nobody was there to stick them in the back of the sequence on the teleprompter.

cboldt

Another Bob - under that system, if the tanker GPS was spoofed or jammed, the tanker would send false and misleading information about itself, resulting in a false and misleading display on the McCain.

Thanks for the pointer. First time I heard of AIS and VTS.

 narciso.

No they are fully in support of Islam, next question:

https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/08/20/is-the-new-york-times-biased-against-all-religions-or-just-traditional-judaism/

Clarice Feldman

Concern growing about IT censorship:http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/08/charlottesville-is-being-exploited-to-attack-freedom-of-speech-and-internet-freedom/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LegalInsurrection+%28Le·gal+In·sur·rec·tion%29

Old Lurker

My reason for being certain this is a failure of the on site leadership of the highest order is simple. If you were captain of a ship in a Navy which always fired a captain whose ship so much as grazed a sandbar or bumped something - old days I understand - then if three other ships JUST LIKE YOURS had been rammed in recent months by other ships because nobody thought to look around and perform the most basic rules of seamanship, don't you think you would be certain that your crew was stationed so that could not possibly happen under your command?

Remember the good old days when we could look at some many public institutions that seemed misguided and take comfort knowing that at least the US Military was as good as ever and could defend us better than any other on the planet?

That no longer being the case, can you name for me a single function of the Federal Government that is done well, regardless of the money spent on it?

Me neither.

DebinGA

Exclipse Update: our GA 2-car contingent left at 6:00 a.m. for Andrews, NC. Rolled into target rest area ~30 min. ago, set up tarp/chairs. Parking lot, not just parking spaces, now completely full.

cboldt

OL - on site leadership may be working with "short crew" either in terms of raw numbers, or in terms of discipline.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

The following Trump supporters have left:

Steve Bannon
A couple of mysterious people on the NSC
General Flynn
K.T. McFarland (ambassador to Singapore nominee)

The following establishment people have left:

Reince Priebus
Sean Spicer

The following pro-Trump epople remain:
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Sebastian Gorka
Stephen Miller

This looks more to me like people being moved out as their usefulness or loyalty came into question.

Bannon is probably going to be more useful on the outside.

narciso, I am NOT going to get all hysterical because of stuff in Breitbart or Cernovich's stuff. I am just not.

Old Lurker

If I were driving a ship and my sister ships had been rammed by clunkers in the area, even my cooks and dishwashers would be standing on deck looking around with eyes peeled, cboldt.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 25m25 minutes ago

Jerry Falwell of Liberty University was fantastic on @foxandfriends. The Fake News should listen to what he had to say. Thanks Jerry!

===================

I will look for the clip.

 narciso.

I would think, old lurked, bow I think dewy Andres is the better standing, than Mitch rapp, although he works alone.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Aroliso‏ @Aroliso

Every single day the #FakeNews media try to take you down.. You never falter, you always stand strong!

Reply:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Donald J. Trump Retweeted Aroliso

Thank you, the very dishonest Fake News Media is out of control!

==============================

I don't know who Aroliso is, but I bet he about fainted when he got a reply! If I were he, I would print that sucker out and frame it!

 narciso.

And looking at the fake news he might as wel. Starting using backwater, because harkonnen spies

DrJ

a-mom,

How is Grand Haven these days? I have many fond memories of the area from my childhood -- great beaches, and Jensen's Fishery.

My understanding is that it went downhill for quite some time, before getting rebuilt and turning into a popular place again. Is that so?

DebinGA

Reuters, after noting Fitzgerald officers relieved of duty, added: "Several junior officers who had served as watch standers for the bridge and combat-information center during the accident were relieved of their duties due to “poor seamanship and flawed teamwork,” said the statement, which added that further administrative action was taken against watch standers from both watch teams."

The head-rollings should continue all the way up to the source/s who made training an after thought, rather than a priority.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

Have they removed any statues of Republicans, anywhere?

Beasts of England

For those on the eclipse path (97% occultation here!!) without glasses, just use the 'selfie' camera on your phone and watch it on your screen. 😎

henry

So far the only burned the one lincoln statue

 narciso.


I am not so sanguine

www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/horowitz-vadunvadum-steve-bannon-leaves-white-house

DrJ

Your (almost!) daily Wretchard:

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/08/21/vague-yet-imminent-malaise/

maryrose

Clear and sunny here on the west side of Cleveland.
Got my glasses.
Good to go!

sbw

just use the 'selfie' camera on your phone and watch it on your screen.

... and risk burning the camera sensor to a crisp.

cboldt

Horowitz and Vadum: Steve Bannon Leaves the White House

Working link

Rocco

OL, Hooper drives the boat Chief. I bought an AIS/DSC VHF radio last year. Not so much for the Automatic Identification System but for the DSC or Digital Selective Calling feature. Once you register your radio with the FCC and Coast Guard, you're assigned an MMSI (maritime mobile service identity) number that you program into your radio. Now should you need to call the Coast Guard in an emergency, no more panicking on the radio trying to call a mayday. Just push the red button on the radio and the radio calls a mayday for you. here's the one I bought for my modest boat.

https://www.pricefalls.com/product/standard-horizon-gx2200b-vhf-matrix-aisgps-30w-hailer-black/172129272?source=Bing&medium=cpc&term=&content=PLA&campaign=278176240&ad=76072487545520

henry

i am unfamiliar with that "selfie" function.

sbw

i am unfamiliar with that "selfie" function.

Good. It’s only for millennials.

Beasts of England

Perfectly clear here, maryrose - I'm excited!!

Also, if you have an astonmy app, e.g., GoSkyWatch, Sky Guide, then you can see the bodies move toward intersect. At the risk of giving away the plot, the moon is already very, very close. Of course, it's a waning crescent, so you can't tell crap with the nekkid eye...

Now, where's my Dark Side of the Moon CD?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

If it's poor crew training then could someone explain how the only crews that are poorly trained all are manning ships within a few hundreds miles of mainland China?
The McCain was sent to drive right through the SCS past the Spratleys.

henry

Beasts... or your Live from Pompei DVD (Total Eclipse...)

sbw

Article about what the solar eclipse will look like from the moon?

I didn’t click on the link.

Depending on which side of the moon you are on you will either see sun or darkness. Doh!

Well, okay, there will be a round black shadow crossing continental U.S.

 narciso.

That's a very good distillation, its like there was the Australian Indian fellow at the huntress blog who called this conglomeration of consultants and would be white house appratchiks the clique

Dave (in MA)

If you know any dipshits, you could have them fill you in, henry.

 narciso.

It makes ones hair hurt, sbw, the blazing ignorance like a supernova.

henry

I live a dipshit free life Dave.

boris

Cboldt's "Horowitz and Vadum: Steve Bannon" link is good.

You can probably count on one hand the number of Republican office-holders who think clearly and strategically like [Bannon]. Or maybe one finger.
Ya, I know which one too.

cboldt

From the wretchard piece ...

Or perhaps the system has been collapsing for a long time and the "unexpected" and "sudden" character of the clusters is explained by facts long suppressed are escaping the mask of the filter.

That is a very common pattern, and trying to avoid it is the rationale behind "statistical process control" and other tools. Still, without a properly watchful eye, systems WILL break, and it is human nature that people will tell the boss, what they think the boss wants to hear.

Been there, been burned, the tee shirt was lost in the mail.

Dave (in MA)

My understanding is that it's safe to use your camera phone to take a picture; just use trial and error to capture the image and don't look at the reflection of the sun on your phone's surface. Modern cameras can handle it. It will probably be a disappointing picture, though.

(I wonder if Alan Bean will be giving it a shot)

henry

Meanwhile, Baltimore doesn't like Cristopher Columbus.

Rocco

In the mid 70's I was working outside during an eclipse. And even with all the warnings then as now not to look at it...I did. There were several people all looking at it so I figured a quick glance wouldn't hurt. Well it did, Everything I focused on had a big green dot blurring my vision. The eye doctor said he had never seen it in a patient but had of course read about it and asked me if I'd go into Boston to Mass Eye and Ear to have them take pictures for the medical books. It did heal itself and my vision is fine today. I thought I was invincible when I was younger!

cboldt

Beasts ... and we will be viewing what is the Dark Side of Moon. It's all dark, from our point of view. The lunatic is in my head.

Rocco

I burned a hole through my retina

Old Lurker

Not to mention they are the most costly of our next gen ships, Iggy. Not that money matters.

But you might not like the answers to the questions you asked at 10:30.

boris

Dimorats:

First they were white-privilige, long as slaves knew their place.

Then Republicans freed the slaves, the slaves got uppity and dimorats switched to anti-black.

Then Republicans forced civil rights for blacks and dimorats, true to form went black-entitlement

Then Republicans let too many whites get uppity and dimorats, true to form are going anti-white

Texas Liberty Gal

From one of our local talk show hosts - totally agree

Mark Davis‏ @MarkDavis 3h3 hours ago
More
Decisions to remove statues should be reached in light of day w/ thoughtful debate, not by cowards in the dead of night. #UniversityofTexas

Dave (in MA)

I'm not worried about wrecking my phone camera. I'm more concerned about the Lizard People who will be emerging and walking among us, and the special glasses are in short supply.

cboldt

Speaking of eyeballs, the fluid (aqueous humor) turnover in the human eyeball is about 2 hours.

jimmyk

How is Grand Haven these days? I have many fond memories of the area from my childhood -- great beaches, and Jensen's Fishery.

Same--we spent a few weeks there each summer in the late 60s. My family rented a cottage on the beach, I think the town was called Ferrysburg. The only downside was a problem with dead alewives being swept up on the beach. I recall reading that this stemmed from the opening of the St Lawrence Seaway.

henry

Sky News
Barcelona terror attack van driver Younes Abouyaaqoub has been arrested, Spanish media reports

Old Lurker

I have followed Mark Davis since his time in DC, TLG.

But noble as it sounds "Decisions to remove statues should be reached in light of day w/ thoughtful debate, not by cowards in the dead of night."

...Is about as realistic these days as British Commanders in our south in 1776+ complaining to their home office that "this war would be easier if these rebels would fight out in the open like British gentlemen instead of hiding behind trees and attacking us by surprise.

cboldt

Is an eclipse a particular form of an occultation, or is an occultation a particular form of an eclipse?

Dave (in MA)

He has 'o' in his name, must be Irish, henry.

jimmyk

van driver Younes Abouyaaqoub

Right-wing Christian Fundamentalist, no doubt.

glenda

Curious ? Dangerous ? Historical times !

Old Lurker.....🙏 In hope ? ..may I please apply for space on your ledge?
I'll be a good girl..promise 😉

Exdemocrat

Clarice - the LI article you linked to is excellent, and chilling.
Here is the EFF article linked in it that adds some technical background that might be helpful for JOMers: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression

Extraneus

ANTIFA Mugshots Released After Arrests Made At The Charlottesville Riots

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3579271/posts

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.oregonlive.com/eclipse/2017/08/solar_eclipse_pinhole_viewer_p.html

My daughter remembered us doing this during the last eclipse, when she was a little girl.

There are fancy projectors with cereal boxes and tinfoil and such, but really all you need is a stiff piece of cardboard with a hole punched in it. (This only works if the sun stays bright. Overcast will, of course, diminish the effectiveness.)

Exdemocrat

One thing worth keeping in mind is that the various entities in the chain have statutory immunity from publisher liability (via 230), only because - and as long as - they do not exercise any publisher role.
No platforming selectively seems to me like a pretty clear violation of that rule.
Another liability that might come into play here is interference with contract/business opportunity state law.

Extraneus

How much of Anderson Cooper's massive inheritance was stolen from slaves?

henry

send BLM to tear him down live on CNN. ;)

Beasts of England

An eclipse is a particular type of occultation.

Beasts of England

I don't have that DVD, henry, but I'll be on the Subterfuge and I don't have a video player as part of my entertainment arsenal. Yet... :)

Captain Hate

Vanderbilt Poofter vs BLM?

Beasts of England

We never see the dark side of the moon from Earth, cboltd. Unfortunately. 😎

narciso

Ok I've checked out ABC (center right) and el pais (liveral) and neither confirm it's him so where is sky getting this.

Captain Hate

It can't be a coincidence that a PT appointment opened up at 1:30 today.

mike in houston

Could someone in Austin please go over to where they removed the statue of Albert Sidney Johnson and place a sign reading:

Brigadier general of the Army of the Republic of Texas.
Last words:

Harris:"General, are you wounded?"
Johnston:"Yes... and I fear seriously"

glasater

I still go with human error or command error. Either way the commander, EO and command chief are toast

Henry,

Those are almost the exact words my classmate and a retired Vice Admiral wrote me when I asked him what the scuttlebutt was on these events..

derwill, yet another adorable, irredeemable deplorable

Happy eclipse day. Got glasses and mimosa fixings, so I'm set to go. We'll be getting 48 seconds of totality. Not a cloud in the sky today, and all I have to do is walk outside my front door and into the middle of the lawn and look up. With my glasses on, of course.

Just south of us where the totality will last 2 minutes, the hotels are charging $1000 a night and gas has gone through the roof.

Janet the expert 🚬

Decisions to remove statues should be reached in light of day w/ thoughtful debate, not by cowards in the dead of night. #UniversityofTexas

"This is the way America changes these days—rapidly and thoughtlessly." - Harry Stein

https://www.city-journal.org/html/whos-next-george-washington-15396.html

Rocco

Has this been fisked yet? Awan and Alvi Grand Jury was sworn in on November 13, 2016. So they covered it up during the election.

http://www.trbas.com/media/media/acrobat/2017-08/70202225250080-17151530.pdf

les nessman

A quick glance can burn a hole in your retina?
How long was this glance?

Beasts of England

'How long was this glance?'

Quick

Extraneus

Wasn't she just doubling down yesterday?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/mo-sen-chappelle-nadal-issues-tearful-apology-trump-family-wishing-dead-video/

les nessman

Well there you have it.
We're all doomed to blindness.
See ya...well, I guess IO won't.

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