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August 16, 2017

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Clarice Feldman

On the nose. T M. Some people just don't deserve free speech, ask Ayers.Or the WaPo which is promoting violence. Or Haberman who apparently can't understand her native tongue.

daddy

the normal rules of logic are out the window.

The rules of what? Logic? Is that another made up word, TM?

 narciso.

I think its rizzotto deprivation clarice, apparently podesta isn't putting out those big spreads anymore.

sbw

How #Postmodern -- words mean what I say they mean and you must be evil to think they mean something else.

 narciso.

Carrying over from the last thread:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/big_plans_on_the_hard_left_for_november_4.html

I guess I'm not the only one that read drury.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Of course there's moral equivalence.
Saying some are communists while some are only anarchists [which isn't really true. The "anarchists are marxists too] is like saying some of the other side were nazis but some others were only white supremacists. They're all scum and there aint much hierarchy in levels of scum.

The only differences between the two sides are;
1. Communists predate nazis.
2. Nazis learned most of what they know from their marxist comrades and erstwhile allies.
3. Communists still hold power and are still respectable to one of the two major parties in this country [and now maybe both?].
4. Communism's mountain of corpses is even higher than Hitler's.

DrJ

Flush!

Ralph L

I was paying very little attention in 2015-6, and what I did hear was from the MSM. I had NO idea that Trump supporters were being attacked--it was reported all the other way. This is no different, only more publicity, at last.

Bubarooni

Geez... I gotta move my daughter back to campus tomorrow.

I really hope no one inquires of me whether I'm 'woke' or not.

 narciso.

In the first season of house of cards there was a publication ostensibly like politic that employed the doomed young reporter played by Kate o Mara but they insisted on actual facts, I tell you its fiction.

DrJ

Bub,

If you are asked, just tell them no, and that you learned to conjugate verbs in the fourth grade.

Captain Hate

Willowed:

Cap'n, what I like so much about that book is for me, it pulls together so many threads of history and thought which perhaps I knew but stitches them all together into the sort of big picture than I prefer.

Agreed; in that regard Bloodlands is also highly recommended.

henry

The MSM / Dems are in "Nobody does that to our pledges" mode.

Comanche Voter

When did logic or intellectual honesty ever grace the pages of WaPo or NYT? Or for that matter, my local fishwrapper, the Los Angeles Times.

cboldt

The rules of logic and fairness for the left are easy. Heads they win, tails their opponent loses. They are literally irrational, bigoted, and in various ways, dangerous.

Any deeper analysis is wasted on them. They will reject any and all criticism. After all, in their minds, we are "the party of slave owners who decided to kill fellow Americans so that they could keep men, women and children enslaved." Courtesy Washington Post.

 narciso.

Mcardle ignoring the last decade

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-15/the-shouters-win-town-hall-battles-but-lose-the-war

Captain Hate

Communists still hold power and are still respectable to one of the two major parties in this country [and now maybe both?].

To hell with the GOP; those bitches are all my enemy until individually proven otherwise.

James D.

I have adblock on, so I can't read cbolt's WaPo link. I feel so deprived.

 narciso.

Take renzi over in Italy he comes from the moderate socialism, now dubbed the democracy party, that's apart from the hard left refoundalists

cboldt

-- I had NO idea that Trump supporters were being attacked--it was reported all the other way. --

That sort of reporting is "the way it has been" for at least 50 years. Reporting is agenda or outcome driven, which may or may not coincide with facts.

If you reject the premise of the press, you are a Nazi sympathizer, and must denounce yourself.

James D.

McCardle is a piece of garbage. She equates the Tea Party with antifa and BLM, which makes her every bit as much of a vicious liar as everyone else in the MSM.

I'm sick of all of them.

cboldt

James D., it's by Jennifer Rubin, you can fill in the gaps pretty easily. He advice, quoted from here, is "In short, Trump must be shunned and ostracized." Congress is to reject him appearing for SOTU, and no individual should be seen associating with him.

I suppose that means the press now prefers "no press conferences" too.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Has Ben ever picked a more appropriate name for himself?
Flush, indeed.

 narciso.

They do find their level after a decent interval

daddy

"Silent Sam" is the nickname of the Confederate Solider with a rifle that stands on the campus of UNC Chapel Hill. He fires his rifle every time a virgin coed walks by, ergo the moniker "Silent Sam."

This story tells us that Sam has been under constant 24 hour monitoring since his Confederate comrade in Durham was toppled. After Durham statue falls, officials keep watch over Silent Sam and other monuments

My guess is that the University will figure out a way to remove Sam rather than have him squashed by Soros's paid Leftist mobs, but even that will probably not be enough so Sam will probably have to be moved off campus from wherever they think he might be safe.

I imagine your campi (sp) will be next.

In the big scheme of things, I think the Duke LaCrosse guys are probably lucky that incident didn't happen now. I could actually see them getting lynched, with Maxine Water's campaigning for the victim, Chrystal Mangum, to become NC's next US Senator.

BTW, what happened to that Black Cop who shot the Aussie lady in Minneapolis?

henry

daddy, i think they are making a statue of that dude.

henry

Interesting FBI Vault release. Internal evaluations of Comey.

cboldt

Mohamed Noor shooting of Justine Damond will remain under investigation until the public "moves on."

Ralph L

Daddy, public historical monuments have some protection from (re)moval in NC since 2015. Not sure if it takes the legislature or the state historic people (who are probably all leftists), but it's something.

 narciso.

You know tm shooting fish is a barrel looses its amusement value:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/trump-tells-the-truth-and-the-press-goes-crazy.php

Old Lurker

...Wasn't it just yesterday that we were watching films of the Taliban blowing up multi story tall statues that had stood for thousands of years...and most Americans marveled at how backward those people had to be to do that to their heritage, and how fortunate we are to be Americans where that could never happen? When our children were taught about book burning and Crystal Night, were they too not relieved to be Americans where that could not ever happen? For those fortunate enough to tour shrines in Constantinople and see where Muslims had plastered over Christian artwork once the teams changed sides, again they were probably all happy to be Americans, where that could never happen.

Me too.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I can't tell you how happy I am to have a Section 8 apartment complex just 2 blocks from me.

Dr. J., I would bet you cash money that at least 50% of the students Bubarooni will encounter do not know what "conjugate" means.

cboldt

OL - "never" is an approximation. Similar to "Manana" which means "not today"

DrJ

MM -- that's my point. Show that they are ignorant right out of the gate.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 26m26 minutes ago

Wow, Senator Luther Strange picked up a lot of additional support since my endorsement. Now in September runoff. Strong on Wall & Crime!

======================================

I know a lot of people support Roy Moore, but I think that perhaps President Trump is looking at knowing that he can work with Luther Strange vs. someone who is perhaps a loose cannon.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 22m22 minutes ago

Memorial service today for beautiful and incredible Heather Heyer, a truly special young woman. She will be long remembered by all!

Sue

Henry,

His scores are all good. It was a pro-Comey leak. ::eyeroll::

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Boy, did this country ever need Trump.
For decades Dems have of course been communist sympathizers. How could they not, given their ideology and its roots? But they would never admit it and would go bonkers if anyone suggested it.
Now, Trump outs them as defenders of not just garden variety Gus Hall type armchair communists, but actual masked, club wielding, openly communist street thugs and people calling for the murder of [and murdering] cops.
And even better, he has unmasked the GOPe dopes who WILL EVEN SIDE WITH COMMUNIST STREET THUGS if that's what it takes to maintain the genteel, dignified butt licking of their Dem superiors they seem to love more than just about anything.
An entire party afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome. They should nominate Patty Hearst in 2020.

matt, deplore me if you must

Let's see; 5 dead Dallas cops, 4 wounded; 3 dead 3 wounded baton Rouge cops; 2 NYPD officers gunned down in cold blood. That's just off the top of my head.

Riots in Berkeley, Portland, and elsewhere.

There is a war going on, and the other side is stirring up a hell of a lot more trouble than some Virginia Nazis.

 narciso.

Smart lad, chip of the old block:

www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-junior-says-leftists-more-dangerous-than-neo-nazis

 narciso.

So been up against a pali and ira sympathizer theresa still doesn't get a clue.

henry

Alt left threats cancel march on google.

JM Hanes

Porchlight & friends!

I'm going to be in New York on the 15th, too! Staying at my usual digs just up the street from Lincoln Center! I would love to join a meet-up.

jimmyk: Do you still have my cell # & email address?

 narciso.

I'll excuse miss shaked

www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-politicians-reject-trump-claim-of-two-sides-to-virginia-hate-march

Sue

How about you let them rally and ignore them? The few that show up will eventually get tired of no news coverage and go away. That's what happened when the KKK decided to come into my hometown. No one showed up but a handful of KKKers and they left and haven't been back.

henry

Sue, these days Soros buses in Nazis, he buses in Antifa, and he buses in social media. It's a traveling road show with press. All you can do if they show up is duck.

Old Lurker

Sue "...will eventually get tired of no news coverage and go away..."

Herr Goebbels (Reich Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945...dug up and returned to duty 2016 through...) would never let that happen, Sue.

Sue

I just looked up the Klan in my neck of the woods. Holy guacamole. There are chapters in all of the towns around me. I've never seen a Klanner (??) before. Not one that I knew was a Klanner anyway.

 narciso.

Too many showings of highlander

www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/crime/article167046932.html

Sue

The SPLC lists 52 active Klans in Texas. The largest active Klans in the US. TN comes in 2nd. They are not very vocal because other than one rally a few years ago that literally no one showed up at but the KKK, I didn't even know they were still around here.

Sue

And the KKK is in disagreement within itself over whether to identify with neo-nazis. What the hell is a neo-Nazi anyway?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

What incentive do the commie thugs have to ignore the KKK?
They get to take free swings at them with baseball bats, get free sympathetic news coverage AND get to conflate normal people, who think hitting people with baseball bats is not optimal, with the KKK.
Sewing the wind as an alternative lifestyle.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

A guy with a tiki torch instead of several thousand panzers and Messerschmidts.

 narciso.

Ok then:


http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/08/15/video-mcmaster-muslim-terrorist-groups-really-un-islamic-irreligious

Porchlight

Again, if the left didn't have David Duke and Richard Spencer, they'd be obliged to create them. I think they're funded by the left anyway.

Sue

According to what I just googled, neo-Nazis are socialists. How is that even remotely a right leaning idea?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

They ARE the left Porch.

Old Lurker

The Left DID create them, Porch.

Old Lurker

Sue, wonder how many people even know what NAZI comes from? Wiki: "National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪzəm, ˈnæ-/[1]), is the ideology and set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party, Nazi Germany, and other far-right groups. Sometimes characterised as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism, Nazism's development was influenced by German nationalism (especially Pan-Germanism), the Völkisch movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged during the Weimar Republic after Germany's defeat in First World War."

Marlene

The Confederate flag issue has arrived on the blueberry barrens of Downeast Maine. A blueberry picker was flying his Confederate flag on his truck and the locals became incensed. The VP of the company he is working for told him to him remove it ASAP. He says he is a red-blooded Yankee and sees no problem. He does look like the ornery type. He also has a huge "Deplorables for Trump" sign on the front of his truck.
Of course,the way the story is written makes it sound like the klan has arrived to harvest blueberries.

Sue

and other far-right groups

Again, how do Nazis get associated with far right groups? Socialism is not a right leaning idea.

Old Lurker

That is all part of the Big Lie, Sue.

Sue

A blueberry picker

Is he an immigrant? Because my news tells me Americans won't do those type of jobs.

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

"http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/the_goal_of_the_democratic_party_overthrow_of_the_system.html

IMO, They have only one goal.

Sue

OL,

So it would seem.

Porchlight

I agree they are the left but they claim to be on the right. It is indeed all part of the Big Lie.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/16/jackson-washington-park-protest-presidents-slave-owners/

Chicago. I ssume they want Booker T. Washington to be just known as Booker ------.

Captain Hate

Damn that's an impressive gathering in NYC. I'd love to hoof it up for that but that's ten days after my sciatica PT starts and I doubt that a magical cure is on tap (although there's an air of mystery surrounding just why the pain tends to just go away).

henry

more, faster.

les nessman

Headline in my local news "Egypt archaeologists discover tombs dating back 2,000 year

They had better destroy those tombs before BLM and Antifa find out, after all Egypt had slaves back then.

The modern Democrats and MSM are like ISIS; they are destroying the artifacts of old defunct cultures that offend their religion.

I'd like to see someone compare some high-profile Dems or MSM to ISIS, right to their face.

Porchlight

JMH, wonderful news! I'm so excited.

I also wanted to say that I'm just as available, perhaps more so, on Saturday the 16th as I am on Friday the 15th. On the 15th I'd be more time-limited whereas not so on the 16th. If that makes any difference to anyone. I don't want to create extra trips for the folks who don't also live in town.

Captain Hate

Speaking of the Big Lie, does anyone know how people whom I assume had a functioning conscience were conned into attending a NEO NAZI/WHITE SUPREMACIST gathering? I'm thinking that some people were urged to attend something that was described much more benignly, such as a protest against the destruction of historical monuments. Then they found themselves surrounded by plants and had a sinking feeling that things were about to go really badly.

Too bad I can't depend on the MFM to inform anyone about this.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Two more people arrested for Durham statue toppling:

http://abc11.com/2313763/

DebinGA

Too bad we don't have more Reuben Greenbergs. When the 80s era Klan applied for a march-permit in Charleston, Orthodox Jew, AA police chief Greenberg insisted on leading the mostly elderly marchers ... in August... at a very hot 2 p.m. ... on a Sunday when people with any sense were home with the ac turned up high.

Porchlight

Cap'n, I'm sorry that you can't make it, and that your sciatica is troubling you.

Marlene

Sue @ 12:10...actually he is a local. The cranky Yankee type. :) An unidentified woman told the reporter she was shocked to see a Confederate flag on a road in rural Maine. She said, "this has been all over the news and I walked out of my house and there it is!"
OMG! OMG!

Porchlight

I'm thinking that some people were urged to attend something that was described much more benignly, such as a protest against the destruction of historical monuments.

I think that's quite likely, Cap'n.

Sue

Marlene,

Well I'll be damned. Another lie.

DebinGA

Durham was Ground Zero for the disbarred DA Mike Nifong-Duke Rape Hoax saga. Any reason other than media bias for local ABC withholding where the arrested antifas were from in the article which included their names?

henry

Deb, it would expose the bused in nature of the entire circus act.

rse

I follow the federalist because it is tied to the false narrative around education. Sure enough charlottesville is being used to call on an obligation to create King's beloved community.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/16/charlottesville-time-pursue-martin-luther-king-jr-s-beloved-community/

I predicted this back in 2013 after listening to the (co)lab speakers and where they were going. It was the first I had ever heard the phrase despite growing up in atlanta.

GUS

Maybe they could include ABORTION in their ALT-LEFT body count.

Every word a LIBTARD/MARXIST says IS A LIE.

Include ABORTION that WE pay for and the MATH changes just a wee bit.
Also suggesting IZZZLAMOFASCISM is RIGHT WING is effing clownish. But then the MEDIA is an INSANE CLOWN POSSE.

DebinGA

As a lifelong Georgian, I find the generic town square statues honoring the Confederate dead to be long past due for removal. Slavery was an evil institution, the defense of which may be understandable given the times it occurred with the clarion call of "states' rights" but, thankfully, that shameful time is long gone imo and shouldn't be "honored" on government property apart from designated cemeteries for veterans imo.

Captain Hate

According to an 'ette, Sara Palin was all over the Iceland Final Solution for Down's Syndrome by aborting all children flunking a genetic test. By that logic we could cure brain cancer by killing everyone suffering from it. Start with McCain.

Man Tran

Spotted over at AT. I think it wins the Internet:

The Tea Party was us asking nicely.
Donald Trump is us asking loudly.

No one will like it if we have to ask again.

henry

OK, can't have things named after slaveholders in Chicago. that includes a George Washington statue. And anything named Jackson must go (I guess Jesse has to us an "X" now). The feds should stop sending money there... it has pictures of Washington and Jackson on it.

Ralph L

described much more benignly
Kessler said he organized it to "destigmatize white advocacy" and supposed to have 6,000 attendees. He's either an idiot or a plant.

Captain Hate

Why not both, Ralph? Like jor.

GUS

Henry the UNITED STATES allowed slavery for decades. Let's change our name to MALCOLM THE 10TH LAND.

Porchlight

Kessler is almost certainly a plant.

What he says now probably differs considerably from how the rally was actually advertised.

GUS

Ralph, he's both. He's not a White Supremecist, he's a LIB, playing a fake ALT-RIGHT guy on TEEVEE.

I asked this a couple days ago. What would the MeffingM report, if the PLAY NAZI'S called themselves....BLACK LIVES MATTER.
Certainly couldn't criticize them.

Captain Hate

The Party of Stoopid:

I heard there was a poll taken among Republicans of who they support. Trump or the Turtle. Trump won the poll bigly. It goes to show that popular support is still with Trump but the Vichy Republicans are so hellbent on selling us out they won't even attempt to ride the popular wave
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 10:00 AM (493sH)

Ralph L

Deb, I think we should have public memorials for men who took their stand for what they considered freedom--at a risk to life and limb that would make us flee to Canada, if we could even imagine it.

What did they call those yuge ancient statues (of non-constitutional monarchs) above the river in LOTR? The Iron Gates?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

If I am remembering correctly, the rally was billed as "Unite the Right" and also had a subtheme of the statue (I imagine to attract locals).

I agree with Porch that this was a staged event. I am positive that the media had a heads up so they could get maximum coverage. Why else would 2 Indianapolis reporters wind up there?

henry

Why is GOPe choosing this hill to die on? Why are all the CEOs quitting Trump panels in a rush of splattered togae? This blatant stupidity is "who they are"? (well, that explains it when I think about it).

Miss Marple the Deplorable

henry,

Conservative Treehouse had an interesting article about it yesterday.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/08/15/on-eve-of-nafta-re-negotiations-manufacturing-ceos-and-richard-trumka-drop-masks/

Stephanie Puppy Pincushion extraordinaire

"Why is GOPe choosing this hill to die on? Why are all the CEOs quitting Trump panels in a rush of splattered togae? "

What was it Alisky said?

Polarize it, Isolate it, Destroy it.

rse

henry-this is the lead-in to the major Ed Tech weekly newsletter today.

"Chronicling change—as historians or reporters—can be difficult when it feels like the worst of human tendencies has remained unchanged. People spew hate; countries wage wars. The past weekend’s odious calamity in Charlottesville makes it even more tempting to succumb to feelings of helplessness and disillusionment.

Yet doing so only fuels complacency. Silence is consent. The events that transpired have deep roots but can never be the new norm. It is a reminder that there are no final victories against violence, discrimination and prejudice, that the march of time and history does not inevitably lead towards progress. Gains can be reversed.

It’s a wake-up call to the constant vigilance required to learn, to listen, and to lead conversations. It starts with challenging ourselves and others, to find the humility to uphold humanity."

Because a politically steered society and economy that supposedly meets all human needs in the name of racial equity is now a given that no one has a right to reject.

Read the quote in the comments on my blog I put up this morning. No one gets to reject the Marxist Humanist assumptions that the uniparty has agreed to as well as the leaders of every religious faith I am aware of.

Stephanie Puppy Pincushion extraordinaire

new thread.

henry

Oh, they removed my right to say no? efemall.

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