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August 17, 2017

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GUS

first? thirst??

Bubarooni

Yes. And it still counts!

Gentlejim

I imagine it depends on the whiskey. Better head to bed. Day shift starts in 6 hours. Behave.

narciso

Maybe they mean ice, wolf Blitzer any thoughts?

GUS

Water added at home????? Why Tom Maguire Why??? Do you add FAKE MEAT to your FILET??
Frankly, Whiskey or Whisky, as they say in Scotland and Ireland, is made from really nice yummy stuff AND water. The water is merely required so as to make the WHISKY......WET... and thereby drinkable.
Water added to Whisky, dilutes. There is no reason to dilute Whisky.
New thread!!! Is adding ICE to WHISKY permissible?????? Yes. So long as you drink the Whisky, before the ice melts and becomes WATER.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Just one undead minute, does Zombie Maguire ever sleep?

GUS

Ig, Tom Maguire has rejoined the JOM family!!!
His family. I think the troll cess pool, made Mr Maguire come home to US. Plus we get new threads!!!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Good morning!

A short summary of the week from Twitter:

Trump this week:

Lil' Kim caved
EO on Infrastructure
Bill signed VA help/dr's
Called out ALL racists
Camp David Fri to discuss Afghan/NOKO

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Thomas Wictor has a thread on President Trump's Pershing tweet:

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/898405167527116801

Worth reading. Interesting stuff about what Pershing REALLY did.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/17/cnns-rye-statues-of-washington-jefferson-and-robert-e-lee-all-need-to-come-down/

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Well, professional sports in Florida is probably going to see a drop in attendance:

http://cbs4indy.com/2017/08/17/tony-dungy-donates-5000-to-help-tampa-bay-area-teams-remove-confederate-monument/

rse

Dr J put this excellent article up on the previous thread. https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/08/17/burn-through/

It also fits well with the coordinated false narratives and the inflammatory ones now with charlottesville. Jamming and burn through.

Jack is Back!(On his iPhone)

Out west they call it bourbon ditch as in ditch water.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/08/something_that_trump_can_do_with_his_pen_to_heal_the_nation.html

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/17/rush-limbaugh-has-an-interesting-theory-on-why-the-gop-allows-leftists-to-tear-america-apart/amp/

rse

This is very good too. https://www.city-journal.org/html/no-place-truly-safe-15397.html

We were discussing at dinner last night how it would feel to be a parent of a child committed to fall semester in Europe and feeling like suddenly they were going to a war zone for three months. Except it would be without kevlar, helmets, or defensive weapons.

Somehow at work this week red was asked about a wedding she had been in in rural Tennessee (near where those convicts were later found) and wasn't she worried staying alone. She said she probably would have been but she took a pistol she had a permit for with her and had practiced yet again at a gun range before going. Well, she discovered just how many women in ATL of all races are now carrying or want to be.

Fascinating.

lurkersusie

Looks like the media is spinning a carefully choreographed web of legitimacy for its coveted impeachment seed
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1AX2K3

Miss Marple the Deplorable

This park is about w miles from my house:

http://cbs4indy.com/2017/08/18/councilors-call-for-second-look-at-location-of-confederate-monument-in-garfield-park/

Miss Marple the Deplorable

2 miles from my house

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/08/18/nafta-day-2-recap/#comments

First round NAFTA Negotiations, day 2 recap.

Captain Hate

Isn't it odd how the MFM is so uninterested in Kessler and his background? Kind of like Hodgkinson?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Captain Hate,

It's "The Dog Who Didn't Bark."

Buckeye

Isn't it odd how the MFM is so uninterested in Kessler and his background?

About the same level of interest they have in showing pictures of Antifa thugs with baseball bats and 2x4s in their hands.

This rent a mob really needs to have a bus "accident".

Rocco

A Jason Kessler has written a ton of stuff for CNN. But for starters, I thought these tweets are very telling (if authentic).

https://nationonenews.com/2017/08/14/just-ripped-mask-off-jason-kessler-internet-forever/

Claims he was red-pilled during the Baltimore riots and converted from Obama/Clinton to Trump after he was elected.

Rocco

Same Jason Kessler? Is CNN behind his sudden conversion from liberal to Trump loving conservative?

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/tag/cnns-jason-kessler/

Rocco

Here he is explaining his conversion.

https://twitter.com/TheMadDimension/status/897305759318499328

cboldt

Rocco - and all - click through to the follow on article about Jason Kessler. He is an admitted provocateur, and one of his goals is population reduction.

 narciso.

Coincedencr or enemy action:

https://mobile.twitter.com/IslamismMap/status/898269122110386178

Threadkiller

Cashill:

Understanding Charlottesville: Antifa and Agitprop
(“Sometimes the Crazies Bite”)

http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/understanding-charlottesville-antifa-and-agitprop/

 narciso.

Hes going Tommy victor:

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/08/17/bill-kristol-attacked-tucker-for-an-argument-kristol-himself-made-two-years-ago

Captain Hate

Kristol must have gotten encephalitis or something from dipshit Egg McMuffin since he hasn't made a bit of sense since supporting that simpleton.

Janet the expert 🚬

Isn't it odd how the MFM is so uninterested in Kessler and his background? Kind of like Hodgkinson?

Imagine if they dug up info on him like they did the guy that made the gif.

Captain Hate

Population control is a primary sacrament in the trash replacement religion of the left. Trump reproduced at a greater than replacement level. Kessler is a lying crock.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3m3 minutes ago

Homeland Security and law enforcement are on alert & closely watching for any sign of trouble. Our borders are far tougher than ever before!

Captain Hate

Or Joe the Plumber, Janet.

 narciso.

Sharing the same brainslug with rick Wilson, ne Er goes well.

Appalled

Rocco:

Part 2 of your link is interesting -- it explores the depths of Kessler's now disappeared blog:

https://nationonenews.com/2017/08/16/part-2-dark-past-jason-kessler-charlottesville-organizer-professional-provocateur/

Seems like a foul human being. More on him here:

https://www.euvolution.com/futurist-transhuman-news-blog/zeitgeist-movement/kessler-described-as-onetime-wannabe-liberal-activist-richmond-com.php

Rocco

CNN Assignment Editor Jason Kessler?

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6u269o/jason_kessler_cnn_assignment_editor/

henry

I assume "X" is about to be banned from the alphabet, removing tiles from subways. Now they have to rename Malcom X et al. Probably call him Malcom LGBTQ.

jimmyk

This piece from the LAT at least tries to hear from both sides, and reveals some culpability on the left. Of course the labeling is very tendentious: Every conservative source is "far-right," while the leftist ones are "left-leaning" or "leftist." And the leftist participants are granted labels like "anti-racist," "anti-fascist," while the others are labeled "white supremacist."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-witnesses-20170815-story.html

Janet the expert 🚬

Another thing that struck me this morning after reading this article - POLL: Most Black Americans Don’t Want Confederate Statues Removed

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/17/poll-most-black-americans-dont-want-confederate-statues-removed/

This whole amplified 'SHOW' reminds me of the effort to remove the Redskins name.

The same producers & directors & marketing companies, just a different set of actors. A different 'show'.

It would be interesting to put together comparative credits (like at the end of a movie) & see the overlap.

Recent dud movies brought to you by Democrat Studios:
'Remove the Redskins Name'
'Erasing Our History'

Name the financiers/producers
Name the directors
Name the actors (& their past work)
Name the marketing/distribution partnerships
etc.

cboldt

Taney's statute removed from Maryland State House Grounds.

Dred Scott v. Sanford was joined by a majority of SCOTUS. It is wrong to finger only CJ Taney. And then we have Justice Black who delivered the Korematsu decision.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/anthony-weiner-seeks-reschedule-sentencing-sexting-minor-article-1.3421866?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fsports%2Fbasketball%2Fnets+%28Sports%2FBasketball%2FNets%29

Appalled

The Charlottesville adventures of Jason Kessler:

http://www.dailyprogress.com/search/?sd=desc&l=25&sort=relevance&f=html&t=article%2Cvideo%2Cyoutube%2Ccollection&app=editorial&nsa=eedition&q=%22jason+kessler%22

He does not seem like a CNN type of guy. But there's no question he is a former lefty.

henry

Good overview of Barcelona attack wave. Three separate attacks. read the whole thread.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Saul Montes-Bradley‏ @Debradelai 4m4 minutes ago

There's a fourth attack going on right now in BCN. An Iveco van run two people over in Hospitalet, & a Renault carrying 2 with explosives.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3m3 minutes ago

The Obstructionist Democrats make Security for our country very difficult. They use the courts and associated delay at all times. Must stop!

========================================

I am SO glad he said that! CAIR and Muslim Brotherhood lean heavily on dems and they do their bidding.

Threadkiller

[Kessler]Seems like a foul human being...

But there's no question he is a former lefty.

Was any of this noted in your "plenty of press coverage before the rally" links from yesterday?

Threadkiller

BTW, what is a "former lefty?"

Davod

Former lefty or ratbag hidden in plain site?

jimmyk

There's a fourth attack going on right now in BCN

Didn't someone here mention a house explosion in Spain a few days back, and raise the possibility that it was a "workplace accident"? Has that been connected with these attacks? That should have been a pretty strong warning that something was afoot, but it seems to have been ignored.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3m3 minutes ago

Radical Islamic Terrorism must be stopped by whatever means necessary! The courts must give us back our protective rights. Have to be tough!

DebinGA

Pic showing Spain's proximity to Morocco and Algeria ... Very grateful for the Atlantic Ocean.

Captain Hate

I believe, unlike my friend Appalled, that Kessler is still a lefty and is doing OFA work; but lacking an email trail there's no way to definitively know that.

cboldt

CH - He could be like the DuPont family. "left or right, who cares as long as there is a war and my services are in demand"

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

jimmmy,
It was identified as a terrorist bomb making plant that blew up, rather than an innocent propane explosion.

henry

CH from Chitown:

Tell CH the video chats of Kessler prove he is still a lefty.

Captain Hate

Deb, you know that 1492 was the year, not only when Columbus found America, the Muslims were expelled from Spain, no?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Captain Hate,

That is what I believe as well. I don't for a moment he "converted."

Coordinated and staged to set a narrative.

henry

TK, a former lefty is a neocon like Bill Kristol.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Speaking of Chitown, I ran across this series of photos of the aftermath of the Great Chicago Fire. Far more destructive than I realized.

http://mashable.com/2015/12/05/great-chicago-fire/#FG6D67.PpgOU

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

When a person is a whack job lefty or righty [I'm using a political notation I persoanlly reject] and suddenly converts to the other team, they don't magically stop being a whack job.
I suspect the boundary between the extremes is rather more fluid and porous than most of us realize.

Threadkiller

Thanks, Henry. So neocon=NAZI.

Appalled

CH:

And I will concede that it's possible he is a phony alt-righty, given his history. It's even possible he is the CNN writer -- one of those links I added puts him at an Occupy encampment. CNN has denied that he was ever one of theirs, for the record. If Kessler did an article as a free lancer though, I don't think the CNN denial would be definitive.

TK:

Is being a left like being a marine -- you are never a "former"?

cboldt

Jimmyk - there was a house explosion in Alcanar the day before the Barcelona van attack. Spanish authorities link the two. The house that blew up had 20 or so propane gas bottles in it. From what I gather, several events are linked, not just the house explosion and the fairly effective van attack.

Ralph L

Has anyone heard the CNN Kessler deny he isn't the other one?

Janet the expert 🚬

Didn't someone here mention a house explosion in Spain a few days back, and raise the possibility that it was a "workplace accident"?

jimmyk, read henry's 8:58 link. It is a good overview.

Appalled

TK:

The odd thing is, whether Kessler is real alt-right or a Soros paid minion doesn't really matter in the scheme of things. Trump's comments were a fiasco, either way.

Porchlight

If Kessler was redpilled by the Baltimore riots why didn't he vote Trump? Plenty of time between Baltimore and the election.

He's a liar.

cboldt

Ignatz - I agree with you. I watched most of his 10 minute "explanation," and he strikes me as not particularly well grounded, at the same time not lunatic. He claims the light went on for him when he realized that the narratives pushed by the press are fiction.

Porchlight

And, just like that, the goalposts move.

Ralph L

a former lefty is a neocon like Bill Kristol
That was his father, Irving. To my knowledge, Bill has always been a con.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

I forgot to second cboldt's recommendation of Suicide of the West yesterday.
First book that really taught me the difference between a political ideology and philosophy.
And Burnham was considered the smartest guy in the 50s and 60s NR crowd which is saying something.
With the death of the USSR its cynical view that the West was in permanent decline took a bit of a hit.
With the rise of the USASSR and the embrace of seppuku by Western Europe it should be required reading again.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Bill has always been a con.--

Now there's a sentiment I can get behind.

cboldt

The CNN - Kessler link isn't established, and CNN has offered only silence when asked.

Threadkiller

Is being a left like being a marine -- you are never a "former"?

Using the same standards as bestowed on Trump and any of his former positions?

Porchlight

From Vice (the folks who just happened to be on the scene to film the tiki torch protest in HD). Tweeted and deleted.

Porchlight

The CNN - Kessler link isn't established, and CNN has offered only silence when asked.

Looks established to me, with the Occupy piece. And if the CNN Kessler were a different person he would certainly have spoken up by now and the left would be hollering it from the rooftops.

cboldt

-- Trump's comments were a fiasco, either way. --

By what objective measurement is that so? Or is that just an opinion? From my point of view, it's opinion. If the objective measure is volume of opposition, I assume that opposition was always there, and will continue efforts to at least put a drag on his policy agendas, if not remove him so the theft of a nation can continue as before.

Porchlight

I like my whisky with a little branch water.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Words cannot adequately describe my contempt for this man:

Mitt Romney‏Verified account @MittRomney

Having created a natl inflection point of consequence, POTUS must apologize & repudiate the racists. Full statement: https://www.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121

DebinGA

PSA: lifetime free passes to National Parks/Fed recreation areas for those 62+ will rise from the current $10 to $80 on Aug. 28. Link lists where to get the pass.

Captain Hate

Of all of CNN's acts of treachery, I'd put having accepted a freelance article from Kessler low on the list; although they should be upfront in acknowledging it.

Although I recognize the importance of the work Sundance has done, there's something about CTH that bugs me like Glenn Beck did. It's surely not fair on my part but, welp, I can be an unreasonable prick on occasion. Still, some member of the Horde pointed out that it was reported there, as a preamble to what happened in Charlottesville, that the Durham mayor overruled the will of the city council to not remove Confederate monuments. Assuming that is true, that supports my assumption that non nutjobs could have been conned by Kessler and his ilk into unwittingly attending to protest that action.

cboldt

Porchlight - I thought Kessler was a participant in OWS. Snopes on Kessler FWIW, says not a CNN contributor.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Trump's comments were a fiasco, either way.--

Please quote me a single thing that Trump said that was factually inaccurate or morally indefensible.
The only thing that might come close is his claim fine people were on both sides.
I suspect but don't know there were people of good faith on both sides there who got suckered into attending what was in fact a planned Sharks and Jets melodrama.
We are compelled to believe the gal that died was merely a well meaning sweetheart but she was in the company of baseball wielding fanatics. Only commies have angelic satellites?

Otherwise what he said was spot on and it has been an entirely manufactured fiasco by the far left and the state organs of propaganda and like clockwork, an orange one, you fall for it again.
If "fool me twice" is shame on me, what is fool me a thousand times?

Threadkiller

Or is that just an opinion?

It was a deflection. He has nothing to contribute on the former lefty garbage.

jimmyk

It was identified as a terrorist bomb making plant that blew up

Thanks, iggy, but now I'm seeing that the connection was made only in the last 24 hours or so. I'm wondering whether (and if not, why not?) they went on high alert that a plot was afoot, or instead preferred not to "jump to conclusions" after the explosion.

Porchlight

How could it possibly not matter that the left, funded heavily by outside groups, ginned up both a violent, deadly riot in order to damage a sitting president? And are currently continuing to throw gas on the fire?

The real problem is Trump's remarks?

You're further gone than I thought, if you truly believe that.

Old Lurker

Think how far we have come, MM, since we discovered that they were always playing for the other team (defined as not the team of freedom loving citizens of this country):

Bushx2, McCain, Romney, plus the 17 dwarfs. Frankly I go all the way back to pre-FDR and exempt only Ike & Reagan.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Words cannot adequately describe my contempt for this man:--

This thread s full of sentiments I can get behind.

Appalled
Other bloggers pointed to several CNN reports sympathetic to the Occupy Wall Street movement with bylines by “CNN Assignment Editor Jason Kessler.” However, two CNN representatives told WND the former assignment editor is not the same Jason Kessler who organized the Charlottesville rally.

See http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/setup-man-behind-white-supremacist-rally-supported-obama/#0lKRiWyZiBI9zvU1.99

Threadkiller

POTUS must apologize & repudiate the racists.

Remember when this homo apologized for telling people where he was born because Obama's lackys took it as a birther swipe?

cboldt

-- an entirely manufactured fiasco --

So you admit is was a fisaco then!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Porchlight,

I hope they have the goods on these people. I hope the national security meeting at Camp David includes discussion of these radical groups on both sides and how they are endangering public safety.

Threadkiller

Think how far we have come, MM, since we discovered that they were always playing for the other team

Sounds like the making of a Consent Decree thread.

;-)

Captain Hate

I bought one of those codger passes when we visited Montezuma's Castle in Arizona in February 2016; when we returned in October to visit the Grand Canyon, Painted Desert and other sites, the savings had to be in triple digits.

jimmyk

you know that 1492 was the year, not only when Columbus found America, the Muslims were expelled from Spain, no?

A small correction: I believe that was the year Jews were expelled. Muslims were ordered to convert, but weren't expelled until 1502.

Old Lurker

Observation from recent cocktail parties. NOT news to rse or most of us here.

Conversing with my Boomer Peers, all educated in the 50-60's, and most with kids and now grandkids, I am dumbfounded by how few of them (us) realize how radically different children have been "taught" since the 70s compared to what we learned. So many actually think they are learning the history and civics that we learned, and that college is just as sound now as it was for us.

If I were a lawyer, I would use the term "Reckless Indifference".

Porchlight

cboldt, I don't regard Snopes as a reliable source.

Kessler the Occupy participant could easily get hired on as Kessler the CNN Assignment Editor writing positive stories about Occupy. Especially with his OFA connections.

I don't particularly blame CNN on the Kessler front (other than not coming clean about it now). I see it as a piece of evidence supporting the Kessler-is-a-fake theory.

Again, we would have heard from the "real" CNN Kessler by now, as both he and CNN would obviously want to distance themselves.

DebinGA

Imo Romney's aim is to inherit 83 yo Hatch's Senate seat and use the national platform to feed his massive ego as the new "McCain".

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