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August 15, 2017

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henry

And the lands of safe space are way in front of them... the Universities.

Plus the strongman behind it all is Obama and his paid shills at OFA.

(Chitown Lurker claims first)

Michael ( fpa P4F [Patriot4Freedom] )

Momto2 - Terrible news about your injuries and the accident. But glad to read your good humor still shines through.

Please don't let the orthopedic boys make a premature decision re cervical spine surgery.

Remember, "surgeons gotta surge" . . . so that is always their first inclination.

Let the initial inflammation and bruising start to heal before they decide you *must* have surgery. They can immobilize your cervical spine if necessary until they can properly determine that surgery is indeed required.

In the meantime, prayers to you and your family, and best wishes for a complete recovery, soon.

.


henry

Old white guy monument vanadalized in DC last night.

Have slaves, free slaves, whatever.

wreck all that and be slaves you Antifa and BLM tools.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

henry, post that link again from the guy who spotted a State Department guy at the demonstration.

It's worth a repost here.

 narciso.

You misspelled totalitarian, tm these are the bloc committees turbas colectivos dignity batallions

henry

Miss M, here you go. suspicious State Dept guy at Charlottesville, filmed car incident, interviewed before sending his vid online.

cboldt
Antifa’s perceived legitimacy is inversely correlated with the government’s. Which is why, in the Trump era, the movement is growing like never before.

Reads to me as an endorsement of antifa, and an assertion that the government is illegitimate. In other words, this piece is aligned with the traditional press on that point.

Janet the expert 🚬

Henry's link mentions the Century Foundation.
a reminder -
Members of The Century Foundation were involved in JournoList too.
3 are listed in the KNOWN members – http://thevailspot.blogspot.com/2011/01/journolist-membership.html

Barbara

Posted at the end of the last thread.

OL,

Although I had great respect for Attorney General Sessions when he was a Senator, I wasn't intending to be kind in my comments. In my view, the opposition to President Trump took specific aim at Sessions, a sitting Senator of long standing, to effectively neuter him during the confirmation process.

They knew their target and what he would do if attacked. Sessions responded as anticipated, and took himself out of the picture. He basically removed the Attorney General's Office from action, and turned over the most serious threat to the President to someone else. (I won't go into the merits of Rosenstein here because he's not my target.)

If you are the opposition and are looking down the road to implement your agenda, as they left always is, and you are faced with a crushing defeat at polls across the nation, where would you turn next? Ferguson and Baltimore did not produce the war they were looking for, nor did the murder of police officers across the country.

We've had Berkeley, and the police stood down. Charlottesville and Durham are just the beginning of the next onslaught. In the meanwhile, we have no effective Attorney General. If Sessions doesn't retire honorably with his dignity still in tact, you know what I believe the President should do next.

Michael ( fpa P4F [Patriot4Freedom] )

'totalitarian anarchists' because I think these people know just where their preferred process will take us and it won't be anarchy.

Totalitarian anarchists isn't bad, but I still prefer the name 'anarcho fascists' . . .
mostly because I think they deserve to have the term 'fascists' hung around their necks forever.

For using the name "Anti-fa" to claim that conservatives are fascists, and that they are somehow warriors in a just cause, fighting fascism.

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henry

hehe CNN censoring one of Trump's adds. has fair use pics of CNN reporters doing fake news.

cboldt

The violence at Charlottesville is ascribed to the permit holders. In the Charlottesville narrative, the counterprotesters are ALWAYS implied to be resisting violence from from nazis and white supremacists.

CNN doesn't denounce the violence.

Barbara

You misspelled totalitarian, tm

Huh, narciso? Shirley you jest.

cboldt

LOL henry. And Trump's people have called out CNN for refusing to take the money and show the ad. I can't blame them - they have a fiction to maintain and this runs counter to it. And I'm sure the ad campaign is MORE effective with news of, and CNN refusing to run it.

Tom Maguire
Antifa’s perceived legitimacy is inversely correlated with the government’s. Which is why, in the Trump era, the movement is growing like never before.

Well, that is a bold claim that melts when you try to pick it up and look at it.

What is the measure of "legitimacy" other than the authors sense of this and that? How "legitimate" was Obama after he lost the House in 2010? Yet where was the antifa?

How "legitimate" was Bush after he lost the House in 2006? Big antifa then?

If Beinart wants to write "the antifa is surging because so many on the left are in quiet support", well, fine, let him.

henry

yes coldt. smarter way to fight them. now the entire MSM has to report how "evil" Trump is, and show the ad in doing so. Dummies can't help themselves.

Clarice Feldman


Was it a hack or a leak? (3)
Power Line by Scott Johnson /
(Scott Johnson)
Salon has a good column summarizing the argument presented by Patrick Lawrence in the Nation asserting that the alleged Russian hack of the DNC email was rather an inside job. It nicely complements our previous installments in this series. Author Danielle Ryan quotes the official DNC response to Lawrence’s Nation article provided to the Nation after publication and now appended to the article:
"U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded the Russian government hacked the DNC in an attempt to interfere in the election. Any suggestion otherwise is false and is just another conspiracy theory like those pushed by Trump and his administration. It’s unfortunate that The Nation has decided to join the conspiracy theorists to push this narrative."
Ryan rightly comments that the statement “is so lackluster it is almost laughable[.]” Students of logical fallacy may recognize both the argument from authority and the ad hominem in the three-sentence DNC statement. That is pathetic.
Via Glenn Reynolds/InstaPundit.

henry

drug / supplement contamination warning: https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017/08/14/FDA-Potential-contamination-in-multiple-drugs-dietary-supplements/4471502722570/

 narciso.

In Latin America they find some public officials are not off limits.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/argentine-president-macris-coalition-gets-strong-support-in-primary-election-1502690977

Macri is sort of a trump figure, his foreign minister was a long time IBM exec.

cboldt

-- Well, that is a bold claim that melts when you try to pick it up and look at it. --

Indeed. It mirrors the justification that Timothy McVeigh offered.

Jack is Back!

Big dynamic no one wants to talk about because they don't want to comprehend or imagine the outcome: An Armed America civilian population. I know its a "last resort" outcome and one of those so-called "Black Swan" events but it is not an impossible consideration of where all this is headed.

I am not predicting a full scale uprising but we have already seen police officers assasinated by lone snipers and just walk-up bangers. That's the left, the BLM and for the blackbloc they so far prefer bike locks. But it is there as a potential when one of these comes to a place not warm toward the left or antifa. I see it escalating pretty quickly if the police, whether blue or red, don't take these clashes seriously.

Next up: Tear down the Jefferson Memorial and the Lee house in Arlington. It's coming and you know it.

Dave (in MA)

https://twitter.com/dataduce/status/897228678802755584

Makes less than $15/hr.

cboldt

CNN has the obligatory protective clause, "[Antifa is] a broad group of people whose political beliefs lean toward the left -- often the far left -- but do not conform with the Democratic Party platform."

There's your disavowal. Sort of.

Barbara

I see it escalating pretty quickly if the police, whether blue or red, don't take these clashes seriously.

Next up: Tear down the Jefferson Memorial and the Lee house in Arlington. It's coming and you know it.

Copy that, JiB.

henry

Dave, LOL!

Janet the expert 🚬

RETENTION: The Air Force’s ‘Quiet Crisis.’

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/272912/

an observation...
IMO the Air Force has been THE military branch most beaten with all the PC crap.

Mickey Weinsteiin & his group, Military Religious Freedom Foundation, have been relentless with the Air Force. They get almost everything they demand.

(Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV is on their board too)

Dave (in MA)

Jack, historic revisionism is going to lead us to having a Mt. Rushmore that has two Obamas, Roosevelt and Lincoln on it.

Barbara

ROLOL, Dave!

Loved the comments section, too!

 narciso.

Never have they earned capts sobriquet mkre

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/corinne-weaver/2017/08/15/donald-trump-killing-us-says-apocalyptic-new-republic

Porchlight

suspicious State Dept guy at Charlottesville, filmed car incident, interviewed before sending his vid online.

This came up yesterday too. Brennan Gilmore is Tom Perriello's (prog candidate for VA governor in November) former chief of staff.

Yeah, just happened to be there, just happened to film it, just happened to get interviewed by nearly every single major MSM outlet before sending out the video.

Both Gilmore and Perriello himself wrote Charlottesville pieces that were instapublished by Politico and Slate.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/14/what-i-saw-in-charlottesville-could-be-just-the-beginning-215487

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/tom_perriello_on_the_charlottesville_protests.html

Yeah, totally not a setup.

cboldt

We've see the police stand down before. Nothing new. LA riots, Detroit Riots, Ferguson, Baltimore, smaller scale elsewhere.

Charlottesville is the first incident I know of where the police pushed the fire and gasoline together on purpose. Usually "it just happens," and the cops vacate the venue for their own personal safety

Porchlight

Don't be daft, Dave (in MA). They won't let a Republican on it.

 narciso.

It is the self declared capital of the resistance, like district 13

 narciso.

Hohum:
hotair.com/archives/2017/08/15/citing-volatile-market-anthem-exits-another-obamacare-exchange

Stephanie Puppy Pincushion extraordinaire

Clears throat...

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/08/15/abrams-calls-for-removal-of-confederate-faces-off-stone-mountain/

Barbara

The police did not stand down in L.A., cboldt.

In Baltimore and Ferguson, they were restrained, but did respond. They also responded during and after the police shootings.

I agree, though, that Charlottesville and to an extent Durham are entirely new. I'd throw Berkeley in as well.

 narciso.

So many slithy toves so little time:
http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-dhs-awarded-400000-group-leader-called-overthrow-trump

Old Lurker

Before we became fat, dumb and happy in this country, citizens and their neighbors had to fend for themselves because help from the government might be several counties and several weeks away. If we see our police not just not helping, but rather steering others into harm's way, then how long will it be before the rules of the wild west return? Will it be before or after the muddled mass in the middle watches all of the symbols of our past ground into dust by a gang of outlaws, or will something deep in our DNA wake up in time to demand action and if failing, take action themselves?

Porchlight

Last June, San Jose police did just what Charlottesville did - left Antifa alone, forced Trump rally goers through a gauntlet of Antifa thugs.

Bad and predictable results.

There is a lawsuit that was working its way through the courts - not sure what the current status is.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/03/16/trump-san-jose-violent-protest-lawsuit-proceed/

Based on everything we're reading it sounds like Charlottesville studied San Jose.

Captain Hate

Willowed from the last thread:

I'm 100% with OL on Sessions. What's the purpose of getting an insider if he still can't get things done? Stedman didn't have any trouble pursuing the JEF agenda almost immediately.

I think he's in over his head and proves again how worthless Senators are in executive positions.

 narciso.

Coup coup catchoo:

dailycaller.com/2017/08/14/exclusive-obama-holdovers-still-in-dozens-of-key-national-security-council-jobs/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Marlene

Good afternoon! Every time we go to DC, I'm heartened by the families who are visiting. The people in the country aren't going to tolerate their history being vandalized,torn down,or smashed to bits. We've walked the National Mall more times than I can count and to walk up the steps of the Lincoln Memorial is an inspiration.

Porchlight

Stedman didn't have any trouble pursuing the JEF agenda almost immediately.

Of course he didn't, he had the media and the Deep State entirely behind him.

Even so, the lefties didn't get what they wanted which is Bush, Cheney, Rove et. al. arrested for war crimes.

Porchlight

That's great, Marlene. I avoided taking the family to DC during the Zero administration, so I'm hoping to put a trip together soon.

Jack is Back!

Dave (inMA),

I'll be honest, I didn't see much difference in the robot's work aptitude than the human ones.

Narc,

No access to that Politico link but reading their top stories, it is more evident that this is their beachead. Russia didn't work. Awan IT spying is a snooze. The economy and WS are gang busters. Manchin might move. Too much going pear shaped for the prog and Dem agenda.

But unless some indy press like the Rome Sentinel makes a big stink out of Gilmore and can tie Kessler to the deep state, nothing will ever happen. Nothing.

Marlene

OL,we're all going to have a party on The Ledge,then we're going to DC,go to clarice's house to pick up our pitchforks. Then we'll march to the National Mall to guard the monuments. :)

Old Lurker

Marlene "The people in the country aren't going to tolerate their history being vandalized,torn down,or smashed to bits."

And yet...Alexandria, VA had to remove statues to avoid having them torn down. Last weekend, the police just watched as those yellow straps were used by the mob to destroy others.

Porchlight

For TM, Ye Olde Gray Harlot, 2/14/2000:

Old Lurker

Porch "Even so, the lefties didn't get what they wanted which is Bush, Cheney, Rove et. al. arrested for war crimes."

You haven't been paying attention to the posts, Porch. For the left it is not what they want you to think it is about (Bush, Cheney, Rove in cuffs), it is achieving lasting damage to the non-left message and goals, and scaring the middle into being quiet. I'd say they did just fine creating Bush-Hilter, and Trump-Hitler is paying the price for that damage done.

Clarice Feldman

More on Brennan Gilmore:https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/charlottesville-attack-brennan-gilmore-and-the-stop-kony-2012-pysop-what/

psy ops specialist with Deep State ties who just happened to be on the scene and interviewed by all the usual msm shills.

Jack is Back!

OL,

While in Alexandria they are dragging down statues they are also shooting Congressmen on baseball diamonds.

Old Lurker

Good point, Jack.

Jack is Back!

But Clarice, outside of Willyloman, who will even get close to making it viral, print and digital? No one.

If I am in a coffee shop in Douglas, Wyoming (my all time favorite, by the way) and I hear anyone even mention the word Charlottesville, it will only be because his wife's hairdresser's niece works in a bookshop near there and once met someone famous.

 narciso.

I wondered what whole kony thing was about, specially considering they didn't focus on boko for years which was a real threat, the underwear bomber was reputedly tied with them,

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Lets stop calling these commie thugs counterprotesters.
They actually manage to be worse than Nazis. The Nazis tromp down the street in their black shorts, mostly saying hooray for our side race and if left to their own devices would raise their skinny little white arms in salute and wander off to the nearest Der Weinerschitzel for a post-op debrief. That's a protest, as preposterous at it is.

Showing up by the busload with 2x4s and masks and intent to commit mayhem and gross bodily injury is not a counter-protest. It's a mobile riot looking for a venue.
The truly noxious thing is after they start a riot, they and their media pals inevitably try to create the meme that some beatific Millenial Ghandis were linked arm in arm, singing Bless the Beasts and the Children when they were set upon out of the blue by the Waffen SS.
Also inevitably it turns out the commie creeps started the violence and then pointed the finger.
Imagine being so loathsome you make the KKK and Nazis look like the second worst people in any gathering.

Old Lurker

For Marlene: "Vandals defaced the Lincoln Memorial on Tuesday — scrawling “F–k law” in red paint on a pillar at the monument, according to the National Park Service. The desecration was found around 4:30 a.m., NBC Washington reported."

Janet the expert 🚬

a reminder. THis happened in NC.

"What is this “shit” the Foval Group executes? Foval points to Shirley Teeter, a 69-year-old woman who dominated the airwaves after she said she was assaulted at a North Carolina Trump rally.

“She was one of our activists,” Foval said to the undercover reporter, while introducing the phrase “bird dogging.”

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/hidden-camera-video-shows-democrats-sent-agitators-to-trump-rallies/

Breitbart coverage at the time -

"She told Breitbart News that the 73-year-old Campbell, who has trouble seeing due to cataracts, was being led through a gauntlet of anti-Trump demonstrators outside the rally venue when Teeter approached him from behind and put her hand on his shoulder. The two never exchanged words, she said."

Resolution after the O'Keefe video -

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/20/okeefe-woman-backtracks-assault-claim-project-veritas-video/

"As a result of Teeter’s initial accusation, police in Asheville issued a warrant for Campbell’s arrest, and his name was dragged through the mud nationwide — for the simple act of attending a political rally."

"A woman who accused a Donald Trump supporter of punching her outside a Trump rally in North Carolina is backtracking after James O’Keefe and Project Veritas released video showing Democrat operatives claiming she was a trained activist.
69-year-old

Sharon Teeter of Asheville now says it is possible that 73-year-old Richard L. Campbell merely touched her accidentally, as his attorney had claimed all along."...

 narciso.

Lets go ed 209 on thrse oeople

http://https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/lets-set-fire-to-stuff/">https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/lets-set-fire-to-stuff/">http://https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/lets-set-fire-to-stuff/

Dave (in MA)

Old Lurker | August 15, 2017 at 03:56 PM NBC Washington can't read.

Old Lurker

Dave, explain your 4:04?

Marlene

OL,yes I saw the spray paint on the Lincoln Memorial. Disgusting. The Park Police need more cameras or spotlights around the monuments. There will be a moment when one of these thugs tries to vandalize a monument in broad daylight and Mr.Tourist from Podunk,USA takes action,with help from all the other tourists from flyover country.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

Very very interesting press conference. Trump just asked a reporter to define "Alt Right" and "Alt left". The press defending the "Alt left".

cboldt

Trump is reaming the press right now over reporting on Charlottesville, and he is laying out that the left came charging in, very very violent.

"If you were honest reporters ..."

"Is it George Washington next week?"

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

He condemned the hell out of the Alt left. Now that takes guts.

Jack is Back!

I Iived in DC and evirons for 10 years on and off and never went to the Lincoln or Jefferson where I didn't see a park police presence. Is this a new Obama thing to make it more possible to deface? Especially at sundown and beyond.

Dave (in MA)

Old Lurker

Someobody painted
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Islaw

on it? That's what NBC says. "Islaw"?

cboldt

Trump does very well in press conferences. Don't accept the press follow-up spin. He is direct, and people will take what he says, and process it without the filter.

Trump vs. the press. Great stuff.

Old Lurker

Actually, Marlene, what is needed is to see every single person damaging private or public property being sent to jail and forced to pay for the damage they caused. If appropriate, their parents should pay. It is unthinkable that most of this destruction is done in public on camera and without any repercussions whatsoever.

And as James has stated often, any policeman who takes no action while watching it happen should be brought up on charges himself and certainly fired.

This will NEVER end unless we demand that it end.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Hoo, boy, you guys should be listening to this question and answer session with the President.

I will post the video when I find it.

"Do you think race relations have gotten worse?"

Answer: "They have been frayed for a long time. You should ask President Obama, he used to give speeches about it all the time."

Bwahahahahah!

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

"I think there is blame on both sides, I have no doubt about it, and you have no doubt about it either. If you reported accurately you would admit it".

also - not everyone on the right there was a nazi or a nationalist. The press has treated them unfairly.

Are you going to take down Jefferson?

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

He brings up the fact that the Alt Left did not have a permit. And says repeatedly: There are 2 sides to the story. Boy I am proud of him.

cboldt

OL - exactly right. Even handed application of law for ACTIONS. It's a pipe dream though. The law leans so far to the left, it is disgusting, a farce of "rule of law."

Miss Marple the Deplorable

OK, Fox feed off because we have 5 women who are going to nitpick the press conference.

Marlene

Jack,we saw lots of Park Police presence two springs ago when we took a ride around the Tidal Basin during Cherry Blossom Festival. It was Palm Sunday week-end,perfect weather.
There must have been thousands of people. The daughter assured me that there were probably also plain clothed LE,because I kept mumbling,this is a soft target.

cboldt

Few others are pushing back against the press, and most of them appear on 6:1 stacked panels for the purpose of ridicule. Refreshing to have Trump come out.

I did a search for the word "antifa" on CNN cable news since Sunday. Inevitably brought up by a guest, never by the network, and only ONE time, was any responsibility put there, by the guest, who was shouted down.

cboldt

Miss Marple!!! Mee tooo. Wifey said "Trump is speaking," so flip to watch that. Trish the bitch comes on, and poof, I'm back on TCM. The press can go, well, do unnatural acts to each other, FOAD, I don't care, they are disgusting human beings.

Old Lurker

Cboldt, that's what I meant in an earlier post about a return of the rules from the wild west. Once it becomes clear that the bad guys are never held to the law, and that the police are enabling the bad guys, and that the police are not protecting the good guys, and in fact that most of the elected political class has a blind eye to it...then the entire fabric of our society which is based on the rule of law will without a doubt crumble. Then the wolves will eat the sheep and only the strong will survive it all. From the beginning of time it has always been thus. Anybody who thinks those days are in our past has read no history, much less the Bible.

rse

It's a mobile riot looking for a venue.

Best phraseology of the day.

cboldt

Link to YouTube of Trump Presser

cboldt

Trump appears at about 3:00 into the recording.

Ralph L

The main Confederate monument in Alexandria is protected by state law. The City has hated it for decades because it's in the middle of the main drag (and because they're yankees).

I don't recall any Lee stuff in public hands; Lee Highway is in Arlington. His childhood home is a tourist attraction.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

The full presser was on Fox Business. Did you know Trump has a home in Charlottesville?

cboldt

He owns a Vineyard near Charlottesville.

Presser heats up at about 10:00 mark. He was asked why he made more than one statement.

Ralph L

Lots of rich people have homes outside town. Martina Navr narciso. used to live there and might still.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

What you won't find out about from CNN:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=371131

Stephanie Puppy Pincushion extraordinaire

Now the idiots are protesting Fantasy NFL auctions...too much like slave auctions.

 narciso.

That's one heck of a typo ralph,

Captain Hate on the iPhone

When asked about a claim that the "alt-right" is pushing attacks against McMasters, Trump says, "Who said that? You mean Senator McCain? The one who voted against Obamacare?"

Poor McRINO.

cboldt

AP reports ... "A North Carolina sheriff says he has identified some of the people who toppled a nearly century-old Confederate statue, and he plans to charge them with felonies."

Skoot

So Proud of Pres. Trump for telling it like it is. I was applauding in the car.

Dave (in MA)

PLANK
EYE :)

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

A commenter at Wretchard's says:

The local radio station here featured a comment provided by a witness to the Chatlottesville events.

The Antifa forces were attacking cars smashing them with bats, throwing rocks. They attacked the car that drove into the crowd BEFORE it ran over the people. The driver seemed to be trying simply to escape the attacks. Who would not point he car toward a thin spot in the crowd and floor it under those circumstances.

.

cboldt

Igantz - I wasn't there, and "heat of the moment" makes it wrong to judge, but the driver had no trouble backing out in a damn hurry. Why not do that first? I don't know the answer, but he may be having to answer that, if claims he was placed in fear.

sbw

Marlene: The people in the country aren't going to tolerate their history being vandalized,torn down,or smashed to bits.

Of course they will. Forty-two states have already approved the National Council for the Social Studies program that, instead of teaching history, teaches our little darlings to BE historians. Swell. They can write history but never read it.

That is not to mention the stripping of economics and political theory, replacing it with how to be an activist.

That’s what civic responsibility is today.

jimmyk

the driver had no trouble backing out in a damn hurry. Why not do that first?

I suppose one's first instinct would be to accelerate, rather than to brake, go into reverse, and then hit the gas pedal, which would not be the quickest way to get away from trouble. Agreed, hard to judge without knowing more, which of course doesn't prevent the media from doing just that.

jimmyk

What you won't find out about from CNN

Saw that story the other day, CH, looked like a "neighborhood dispute," not necessarily political. But of course, reverse the roles, or make the shooter white and the victim black, and ... you know the rest.

Frau  Weg damit!

For Stephanie @ 2:09 - I shared this on the earlier thread:
US-Taliban on the move:

(GA's) Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams called for the removal of the giant carving that depicts three Confederate war leaders on the face of state-owned Stone Mountain, saying it “remains a blight on our state and should be removed.”


Printable words fail in the face of such ignorance. What does this person know of *our* history and especially the famous monument at Stone Mountain?

Gutzon Borglum was hired in 1915 as the carving consultant, and in 1916 he was appointed carving sculptor by the Stone Mountain Monumental Association. ... Borglum went on to carve the famous Mount Rushmore sculpture in South Dakota.

My inner Seymour Hersh language demon wants to comment appropriately to this runaway stupidity.

cboldt

Maggie Haberman reports

The president's breathtaking statements inflamed and stunned people across Twitter. ...

Blaming "both sides" for #Charlottesville?! No.... @RosLehtinen

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

I don't know whether he did it intentionally or not either, cboldt.
However, he kind of had to back out since it seems he rear ended a car, which as I pointed out awhile back isn't exactly the path a guy hoping to hit as many people as possible would take.
If the path looked clearer forward he goes forward until it closes off and he backs up when he can't go forward any further? If you're panicking you just kinda hit the accelerator I would guess.
OTOH maybe he's an evil nut who mowed down as many as he could.
If he was not the latter, not sure he's got much of a chance at trial of proving it, and in this kind of case, let's be honest the burden of proof is largely on him.

 narciso.

Eto piz Des, is the proper Russian cognate,

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