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September 21, 2017

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Captain Hate

Discussing serious matters on not so funny Cold Sore's show? Some of us can remember when her pervert husband facilitated Loral giving missile guidance technology to that insane asylum.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Trump should take the spavined old nag's advice and switch to calling Kim The Madman Across the Water and change Crooked Hillary to Fat Boy Ass.

henry

Curb Dive is a cool nickname. Maybe she'd like that better.

 narciso.

Like putting a film maker in prison


http://washingtonexaminer.com/preet-bharara-says-trump-would-have-asked-him-to-do-something-inappropriate-had-he-not-been-fired/article/2635119

DebinGA

Clinton announces deal with NK..

Old Lurker

Narc...wasn't there a movie story about convicting people for crimes they might do in the future?

Threadkiller

With that kind of predictive power maybe he can start a blog called Preeterico.

Clarice Feldman

SDNY has always been very creative in indicting people for "conspiracy" and "Obstruction"--why not add "predictive impropriety" to the list?

Threadkiller

Days ago Larry Elder pointed to this 2006 cover:

The MFM is catching on and essentially calling Trump a plagiarist.

 narciso.

They have their own divining rod

http://.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2017/09/va-re-fires-scandal-plagued-employee-test-case-trumps-new-law/141170/?oref=govexec_today_nl

Stupid human tricks seems erudite by conparuson.

Threadkiller

Maybe Preet is used to inappropriate orders from The Executive.

fdcol63

Whenever I hear feminists claim that women should rule the world, I think about episodes of "The Real Housewives of ....[take your pick]" and I shudder in fear.

No thanks.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

Henry,

Dave is the parrot expert. No worries.

Clarice Feldman

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/09/why-trump-is-so-much-fun.php

GUS

Thank God the President fired this fuckwad.

 narciso.

The only sane chimp in that peanut gallery


https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/09/20/rouhani-demands-trump-apologize/

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

On the last thread there were were comments about women not liking career fields because they might be crowded out by H-1b visa holders. I think I remember Henry or someone saying there was a need for some H-1b visa holders. I am not in any field so I could be wrong, but I don't see any need for any H-1b visa holders. Why does Disney need to have American workers displaced by H-1b visa holders.

I would like to see no one in Congress who believes that it is logical to bring in foreign workers to displace American workers. If there are skills that Americans don't have than arrange for trainers not replacement workers.
Just my two cents.

Clarice Feldman

Once again Surber and I see eye to eye:http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/09/why-cnn-told-you-trumps-campaign-was.html?spref=tw

common man

I read that by Surber a few moments ago. I must profess that his logic escapes me. How does that story help Mueller? It makes him look a little silly, looking mightly for a elephant while a rhino is rampaging thru the conference room...

fdcol63

" ... If there are skills that Americans don't have than arrange for trainers not replacement workers ... "

Indeed. Plenty of out-of-work factory workers, liberal studies baccalaureates, burger flippers and welfare mooches who could be retrained and educated to fill many of these roles.

 narciso.

Because one is nit supposed to look are the details, cm. Just assume manafort is guilty.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Heh;

GUS

Samantha Power and Susan Rice, both need to spend time in PRISON. OKIE DOKE used both of these lying bitches to spy on his enemies.

This is the biggest scandal in U.S. History.
Who could possibly be surprised. Obama has ZERO honor.

-peter

On topic, I thought it was rather astute of Trump to call Un Rocket Man, as opposed to Fat Boy, which is an epithet many have used, including some on the left. Less provocative.
Off topic, or at least going back to the last thread's topic, some very astute posting there about intelligence, aptitude, etc. My feeling is that the whole IQ thing is a very soft science. The creator of the term, IQ, Lewis Terman, was a believer in eugenics.
In my lifetime, I have known some people who scored extremely high on standardized tests, who have not done very much with their lives. The sweet spot, in terms of productivity is a deviation below genius level.

fdcol63

"The sweet spot, in terms of productivity is a deviation below genius level."

Yay! I still have hope. LOL

Jack is Back!

Shrill American leftist attacks Danish man in Denmark bar for wearing MAGA cap, may get what she deserves

Warning: Sailor language from a hateful little bitch.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/09/20/shrill-american-leftist-attacks-danish-man-denmark-bar-wearing-maga-cap-may-get-deserves-538436

Old Lurker

"The sweet spot, in terms of productivity is a deviation below genius level."

Peter, the old line: The A students go to work in divisions run by B students in companies owned by C students.

Extraneus

Report: Trump Reluctant to Campaign in Alabama — But Swamp Fears Domino Effect if Luther Strange Defeated

DebinGA

I'm still reeling from yesterday's news that the FBI "picked the lock" at the Manafort home and entered with guns drawn in the middle of the night. Presumably they yelled "Police!" or some such, but who'd process that if awakened suddenly by the sound of multiple intruders? Our first instinct would be to grab guns kept nearby and prepare to shoot, which would have promptly ended our lives had we been the Manaforts.

art in newport

OL, or the law school variant:

A students make professors
B students make judges
C students make money

:)

-peter

OL, still reeling from too many Gentleman Cs at the University forty odd years ago.

henry

still reeling from too many Gentleman Cs at the University

Someone spent far too much time in the library. ;)

JimNorCal

pagar: "September 21, 2017 at 10:49 AM"

Yes! But only if the govt was being run to benefit the US people. Clearly, it's not.

Threadkiller

https://townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/2017/09/21/the-un-once-useless-now-useful-n2384183

Not a bad article. It is the first time I read that Stephen Miller authored the speech.

Dave (in MA)

Fat Boy was always Howie Carr's nickname for The Lion of the Senate.

fdcol63

I always liked "The Hero of Chappaquiddick". LOL

Captain Hate

I'm still reeling from yesterday's news that the FBI "picked the lock" at the Manafort home and entered with guns drawn in the middle of the night

That the MFM seems content with that gives you an idea of the type of people we're up against. Fuck them, this is war.

fdcol63

Nixon was an amateur compared to Obama.

Janet 🚬

When Dems are caught...they like to do their own roll out of the damaging info. That way they can make it go in the least damaging direction.

That is how the IRS/Lerner story was done. They planted the question.

The Sandy Berger story was held up for 9 months before the press printed about the crime.

It shows another reason it is SO bad to have a lazy, corrupt media. The "reporters" just print what is fed to them. They're tools.

fdcol63

And the fact that "right-wing media" hasn't been able to stir up enough public interest in Obama's crimes shows how weak it still is compared to the MFM and just how much the culture has shifted to the Left.

fdcol63

We "mustn't judge", after all.

Dave (in MA)

Jane,

I had to go back to the previous thread to see what you were talking about in your 10:28 AM.

Our parrot spends almost all of her waking hours in the same room as my wife's Alexa. No trouble so far, but it's always getting activated by the TV.

Captain Hate

For all the Jeff Sessions is playing 8 dimensional chess apologists, why wasn't DJT on the phone immediately asking WTF his FBI goons were doing? Or is this all part of the grand plan that stretches out until at least 2020 to be revealed?

Comanche Voter

What could Trump do? Pudgy Wudgy was already taken. And Charles Barkley owned "Round Mound of Rebound". Little Kim is a rapper. Numb Nutted NORK has a certain flavor. That might morph into Porky Norky. You couldn't call him Tiny Tim because the gals on The View say he has "big hands" and we know what that means "size" wise.

So at the end of the day, Trump settled on Rocket Man.

Comanche Voter

What could Trump do? Pudgy Wudgy was already taken. And Charles Barkley owned "Round Mound of Rebound". Little Kim is a rapper. Numb Nutted NORK has a certain flavor. That might morph into Porky Norky. You couldn't call him Tiny Tim because the gals on The View say he has "big hands" and we know what that means "size" wise.

So at the end of the day, Trump settled on Rocket Man.

Threadkiller

Just imagine if the Sheriff of the fourth largest county, by population, introduced to a court of law a sworn affidavit attesting to a fraudulent ID posted on the Whitehouse website and that ID was for a Republican President.

What would the MFM do? How quickly would the right side of the Uniparty denounce the President?

Man Tran

Attn: NorCal JOMers, check your JOM emails. Have three takers, so far.

Kev, if you are around, I don't have a contact for you. If you are feeling up for the get together, we are doing it in Berzerkley!

Threadkiller

If the FBI didn't do the no-knock raid, the Luntz-Dunce crowd would not have the ability to recognize the overreach started by the Obama Administration.

Plus, there is the possibility that Manafort is guilty of something that only the Feds can investigate. If Trump told Sessions to back off and Manafort skated due to the interference, what a mess that would be.

Threadkiller

FTR, my expiration date for the 8 dimensional chess reveal is the primaries in 2018.

Old Lurker

Cap'n, maybe in that same phone call he could ask why the DoJ and FBI are stiffing the R Controlled oversight committees in Congress. Optics, anyone?

common man

Silly me. I thought no knock raids were reserved for drug dealer types, who otherwise would stall the door opening just long enough to empty the evidence down the toilet.

No knock is dangerous, dangerous for the inhabitants who may assume the intruders must be bad guys, and dangerous for the officers effecting it who may be met with deadly force.

Brown shirt tactics from Mueller certainly dont make him out to be a lovable fellow...

Threadkiller

I caught the news that Treytor Gowd-mouth failed to give the DOJ any usable evidence to go after Lerner. Is that the obstruction you are referring to?

DebinGA

More details of the Manafort raid

Threadkiller

There would be no no-knock conversation if the Feds were stopped by Trump.

Old Lurker

TK, there is a difference between a no-knock raid in the dark followed by groping the housewife in her nightgown while the husband rubs his eyes...and a polite knock on the door during breakfast followed by men in suits asking to come in. Feds get exactly the same data in the case of a high level white collar "suspect" represented by top flight lawyers.

But Brownshirts gotta do what Brownshirts gotta do.

henry

Pattern set by Chisolm in John Doe raids. Mueller can't be out done by a provincial who got away with worse.

Threadkiller

But Brownshirts gotta do what Brownshirts gotta do.

Am I giving the impression that I agree with and applaud the no-knock tactics used against Manafort? Because nothing I wrote would suggest that.

Old Lurker

I no longer even read stories which contain "Trey Gowdy" in the first line. Waste of time and waste of hope.

Old Lurker

TK, this did not sound like TK "Plus, there is the possibility that Manafort is guilty of something that only the Feds can investigate. If Trump told Sessions to back off and Manafort skated due to the interference, what a mess that would be."

Threadkiller

What non-Treytor Oversight inquiry was stiffed by the DOJ?

rich

Posted by: pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter | September 21, 2017 at 10:49 AM

my have been mine. the point I was trying to make is a substitution effect: foreign students for female students (either in state or out of state) and the foreign students are male.

Threadkiller

That wasn't an endorsement for what happened to Manafort. It was an explanation of the precarious position Trump would put himself in if a) he had knowledge of the impending no-knock raid and if b) he told Cocoon Sessions to put a stop to it.

Old Lurker

TK:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/politics/fbi-official-interview-request-denied-justice-department/index.html

Captain Hate

Pattern set by Chisolm in John Doe raids. Mueller can't be out done by a provincial who got away with worse.

Got away with are the key words. Why should anything change with no consequences. I thought that might change now but obviously not. And don't tell me to have patience.

Captain Hate

TK is right about the optics of DJT ordering Snoozer around.

common man

Clapper claimed last evening he was unaware of a FISA warrant for Manafort? This guy was the freaking DNI! Of course he knew, or should have known. Was he just sitting in his office playing fantasy football or swapping pictures with Weiner?

Threadkiller

Yeah.. that does look like more of the Special Counsel mess that Sessions perpetuated. But, the Judiciary Committee seems to have there own pissing match they have engaged in regarding Trump jr transcripts.

daddy

Since it is now beyond dispute that Clapper lied under Oath, is there anyone other than "Silent Jeff" Sessions who can bring charges against Clapper?

Old Lurker

TK, Trump would not have to "interfere" if he just wanted the armed forces of his internal security justice apparatus to act less like Brownshirts than has become the norm and as was displayed to the Manaforts. In this, the deafness of how Civil Asset Forfeiture looks to commoners is identical and just as damaging.

James D.

Plenty of out-of-work factory workers, liberal studies baccalaureates, burger flippers and welfare mooches who could be retrained and educated to fill many of these roles

Well, the out-of-work factory workers could definitely be retrained.

The burger flippers might be able to be retrained (or just trained in the first place).

The liberal studies majors and welfare mooches are lost causes.

 narciso.

Maybe some one should bash Mr. Gurgles front door in, I'm sure he is hiding something.

Old Lurker

" I thought that might change now but obviously not. And don't tell me to have patience."

And in that one line Cap'n illustrates exactly why I harp on the importance of perception of momentum or lack thereof.

rich

Posted by: James D. | September 21, 2017 at 12:24 PM

we could just give them free money instead of asking them to set an alarm clock.

James D.

Why should anything change with no consequences

Exactly. I've been saying it ad nauseum. The ONLY way the no-knock raids, and persecutions of conservatives by the IRS, DoJ, local Democrat DAs et al, will stop, is when those same tactics start being used - aggressively and ruthlessly -
against the left.

When some big dollar Dem fundraisers gets awakened at 5 AM by a dozen federal agents in body armor and aiming guns at them, we'll start to see those tactics being rethought. But not until then.

Threadkiller

I'm saying that he wants them to look as bad as possible, OL. People need to see how f'n huge this swamp is. The notion that a single stopper gets pulled and 50gal of sewage peacefully heads out to the deepest part of the ocean needs to be dissuaded.

Drain the Swamp and Build the Wall are happening but not at cartoon pace. Many people need to see more of what is bad before they really get it.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

President announcing that foreign banks who do business in north Korea will be prohibited from doing business in the US. Also announced the Chinese bank ban on doing business in North Korea.

There are also inderdictions of the trade routes but I didn't get that, as I just came in.

common man

Trump just announced that China Central Bank has told all banks in China to stop doing business with North Korea.

Seems like Trump is getting way more cooperation out China than any of his predecessors. Perhaps behind closed doors he threatened to provide nuclear arms to S Korea and Japan? Otherwise, why the change from nodding, smiling and doing almost nothing?

Old Lurker

Trouble with that logic, TK, is that this is now Trump's DoJ and Trump's FBI, and Trump's IRS. You would not have wanted him to blow the hurricane response just to show the people how bad the government is.

henry

good deal Miss M. That should squeeze China's deep state as their swamp denziens try to get money out of China and into Vancouver or CA real estate.

Threadkiller

To be clear, I'm not telling anyone to be patient. I'm justifying why I am patient.

If I don't get satisfaction by the primaries in 2018, I will be far more unhinged than I was during Magpie's fall from grace.

#BelieveMe

Miss Marple the Deplorable

common man,

Economic leverage. China needs us more than we need them.

Xi doesn't want to deal with all of those factory workers being unemployed.

China also has to import its fuel. That's another leverage point.

This stuff could have been used any time in the last 15 years, but you had to have someone in office who had both the knowledge of how to use it and the will to do so.

Captain Hate

You have more confidence than I do that people are seeing this, TK. When's the last time you've heard anything about the Bernie bot who exchanged emails with Turban Durbin who tried to murder multiple members of Congress?

common man

They are pouring money into Sydney and Melbourne at an incredible rate. In some notable cases, they buy apartment buildings, and kick out tenants and put a chain link fence around it. Why? It gets the money out of China and into a hard asset. Tenants and their filthy cashflow is not even a consideration.

 narciso.

A swamp dweller by the look of him:
http://law.nd.edu/directory/jimmy-gurule

GUS

Deb, that HIVE article is nonsense.
It refers to MUELLER concentrating on numerous TRUMP associates who may or may not be involved in RUSSIA colluding to defeat RODHAM.

They are investigating something THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
NO EVIDENCE OF ANY RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN ANYTHING,
NO ACCUSATION NO LAW CITED, NOTHING ZIP ZILCH NADA.

THERE WILL BE BLOODSHED OVER THIS

 narciso.

By contrast this is part of sheepdogs crew:

http://bu.edu/phpbin/calendar/event.php?id=116126&cid=17&oid=0

henry

For those wondering what Mashed Potato Face is up to, he's in New Haven.

Threadkiller

You would not have wanted him to blow the hurricane response just to show the people how bad the government is.

The Hurricane wasn't full of career employees that can change the direction of the winds just to destroy Trump.

But using that analogy, Trump couldn't stop the hurricane through his sheer force of will. All he could do was deal with the damage it left in its wake.

The Federal Swamp is a Cat 100 storm.

 narciso.

In light of current events


http://.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/242674/jewish-general-invented-a-muslim-country

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Valerie Plame surfaces, and perhaps Bill Kristol will face the facts about the dems and Hillary Clinton:

https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/910887651833733120

(Screen cap of her tweet at the link.)

They must be getting really nervous if they haul out this canard.

Threadkiller

When's the last time you've heard anything about the Bernie bot who exchanged emails with Turban Durbin who tried to murder multiple members of Congress?

Goes to my point. That is an unbelievable story to have been disappeared by the Uniparty. Trump needs to exploit more of the bad behavior until it becomes dinner table talk.

Threadkiller

Gotta run!

 narciso.

She's as stark raving as Gwyneth Todd:

https://www.mmtimes.com/in-depth/7341-gas-set-to-flow-from-myanmar-to-china-this-month-official-2.html

So you see the relocation in a different lifht

Old Lurker

You missed my point, TK. While not being able to change the winds, had Trump not deployed his obvious excellent CEO skills in managing his cabinet departments and working with the GOP governors, the damage from the 'canes could have looked more like Katrina than they did. Then he could have said "see, government can't do nuthin right".

Just admit it...the Manfort takedown was not arranged by Trump to make a point.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Valerie Plame has been outed as an anti-semite. The tweet I posted above is apparently a reteet of a site of which she seems to be a fan.

I am lying down for a bit. Headache.

RattlerGator

Let me see if I can make a run of a few comments before TM blasts a new thread.

* * *

This is why I love this board and hate to inevitably miss a period of days:

Ignatz, speaking of cis, a tweet I saw today:

"I sexually identify as an A-10 Thunderbolt II. My preferred pronouns are brrt and brrrrrt. If you don’t agree with this you’re acrophobic."

Posted by: Another Bob | September 20, 2017 at 11:25 PM

Jaed's beautiful comment touched off a storm of strong opinions. I especially loved the 11:07 from squaredance.

But then cathyf shows up, and I just softly whisper to myself . . . dayyyyuuuuummmmmm !!!

A strong, strong ACKNOWLEDGED FEMALE opinion. Mmmmmmmmm. That can be quite the turn-on . . . while simultaneously proving just how equally ruthless women, especially women seeking vengeance, can be.

As for her aside about the Indians' claim re no in-Country interest or aptitude difference for the study and mastering of Physics . . . I don't believe it for a single, solitary second. My experience with people from essentially non-Western societies is they can be weirdly insistent on things such as this with virtually nothing to back up the claim.

maryrose

Clapper trying to around his lie by stating on CNN to Don Lemon that it is conceivable that Donald Trump could have been picked up on a wiretapping of Manafort.
This is how he gets out of doing criminal time for his lies.
CNN was happy to accommodate him.

henry

Silicon Valley is nuts: testing "Basic Income". At least it isn't our money (yet? or is a subsidy hidden here?).

daddy

It seems to me that there is a danger when we see our Elected Power Structure not taking action against these self evident crimes against our Constitutional Republic---Clapper's obvious lying under Oath exhibit A.

Citizen vigilantism is legitimized when Jeff Sessions or whatever entity in the current elected power structure that should take action does not take action.

It is no hard mental calculus for a rational citizen, who has sworn to support and defend the Constitution, to come to the conclusion that by their inaction our elected officials are not doing their part in supporting and defending the Constitution.

Beats me if citizens will decide to take the Law into their own hands, but we know the old saying that "nature abhors a vacuum." Well Jeff Session's inaction in my view is creating one hell of a vacuum in the Justice System of our Constitutional Republic.

Threadkiller

Just admit it...the Manfort takedown was not arranged by Trump to make a point.

Didn't say that. I said he couldn't stop it.

Now that it happened, it has made point. A Swamp draining point.

Unless you believe the Hurricane was man-made it is a non-analogy, IMO. Trump's response to a natural disaster created outside the reaches of a corrupt DC Swamp isn't the same as a reaction to a internally created disaster inside a corrupt DC Swamp.

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