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September 25, 2017

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henry

How about the $millions of Russian bought anti pipeline and anti fracking ads?

maryrose

Any ads praising and thanking Hillary for the Uranium deal?

henry

Or backing the Iran treaty?

JimNorCal

m/r: "Any ads praising and thanking Hillary for the Uranium deal?"

Heh

maryrose

Henry:
Good one!

lyle

Villanueva apologized to the Stoolers for his standing for the NA yesterday. Who's back did have today?

maryrose

The only person saying Russia wanted Hillary to lose was James Comey.

maryrose

Lyle:
The dummy coach they won't fire probably said he would bench him if he didn't go along with the other weasels.
I am not saying that because they are our chief rivals in the League.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

lyle,

He has a wife and infant. He probably had to apologize for their safety.

As far as I am concerned, I hope the Dallas Cowboys pick him up. Would do wonders for their box office, and after he is signed he could trash the Steelers coach.

Davod

I just watched part of the new Vietnam series and they said Nixon narrowly won the 1968 election. Hmm. Nixon won 301 electoral votes to Humphrey's 191 and Wallace's 46.

common man

Cowboys sell out every game, and already have a very expensive offensive line. Probably not room for Cap. Villanueva. I assume Tomlin guilt tripped a good man, and he agreed to apologize but that whole sordid thing, probably caused the QB Rothlisberger to have second thoughts, since he knows Villanueva had the moral high ground and his coach is an idjit.

rse

Can we do a JOM roll call on who precisely buys into "fantasy stories" about paul ryan?

Gracious, between him and advocating for the GOPe as misunderstood instead of the trough eating whores they are, it's like sara hyping mitt in 2012.

Why the advocacy whatever the evidence?

maryrose

Davod:
I remember staying up really late in the dorm election night 1968 because the popular vote was so close and they didn't call it right away.

maryrose

RSE:
Right on cue .
Well I guess we will have to wait until 2019 to see who is correct in this situation.
You know you do this every time I post something you don't agree with.

Ralph L

As I understand it, most NFL money comes from multi-year TV/Cable contracts, so it will take a while for ratings to hurt them. Their cities may have spent more on stadiums than they did.

Hurting their merchandising sales will be more immediately effective. Anyone know how much that is?

derwill

Apparently Villanueva doesn't have the right to his own form of self-expression. Some animals being more equal than other animals.

Just when I thought the NFL couldn't make matters worse, they just did.

rse

I may be exasperated with the continuing memes but I did know you were likely still on and could snipe at me in real time as you prefer.

Buckeye

between him and advocating for the GOPe as misunderstood instead of the trough eating whores they are, it's like sara hyping mitt in 2012.

Watch out CH! Now rse is treading on your turf:)

maryrose

I know a good person when I meet them.
I am an excellent judge of character.
I have met Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney , Paul Ryan,Sarah Palin and Sean Hannity.
All very fine, principled people in my opinion.
I am still allowed to have an opinion and don't need to explain my advocacy to you or anyone else.
Betsy DeVos looked good today at the WH with President Trump.
My understanding is you aren't totally on board with her.

Extraneus

He's still gonna make money on his jersey sales, derwill.

Buckeye

Of course imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

maryrose

RSE:
Check previous threads to see who the person who does the sniping truly is.At least you are commenting while I am here and I appreciate that.

maryrose

I did not say the the GOP is misunderstood.
Do not put words in my mouth.
I said Some are doing their job.
Big difference.

Another Bob

JIB and CH, re. Steelers ownership, Dan Rooney is dead.

My understanding is a lot of Pittsburgh is pissed.

If Villanueva was pressured into an apology, that makes things much worse.

Buckeye

So the bros in the hood are Putin's bitches.

Suppose any have figured out they're being played?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

maryrose,

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

I would just caution you that politicians, by their very nature and years of practice, are very good at deceiving voters.

How nice was Romney when he came out viciously opposing Trump? How nice was the RNC under his watch when they called me election day and asked for money to help get out the vote in Minnesota, because it was in play.

I have never gotten over that lie, which is why I only donated to candidates after that.

common man

If the internet is any clue, a shitload ( yes a legitimate measure of volume ) of Steeler fans were burning jerseys and blankets.

lyle

The Stasi Stoolers! 😎

Ralph L

I wish Villaneuva had had the balls to stand on the sidelines instead of the tunnel, but he couldn't go too far against the team, and they would probably have let him get clobbered in the game.

Porchlight

MM,

Minnesota was totally in play. That's why Trump went there during the last week of the election. He only lost by ~44K votes, around 1.5%.

MN hasn't been that close in a presidential election since 1984. He could very well win it in 2020.

Incidentally, McMullin got 53K votes, more even than Stein.

Porchlight

Sorry, maybe you meant 2012? If so, my error.

 narciso./

Santorum actually held has own against mitts 10/1 funding advantage, and back in 94, he wee the giant killer re wofford.

common man

Ryan Zinke gets it. I vote for Hutchison, Kansas:

Zinke said he is pursuing a major reorganization that would push much of the agency's decision-making outside Washington and move several agencies, including the Bureau of Reclamation and Bureau of Land Management, to undetermined Western states.

The moves follow military strategy, Zinke said: "Push your generals where the fight is."

While details remain largely under wraps, Zinke said he was excited.

"It's going to be huge," he said in a speech to the National Petroleum Council, an advisory committee that includes leaders of the oil and gas industry. "I really can't change the culture without changing the structure."

Besides moving employees, Zinke said he wants to speed up permits for oil drilling, logging and other energy development that now can take years.

"The president wants it yesterday," Zinke said, referring to permits for energy development. "We have to do it by the law."

On other topics, Zinke said the Endangered Species Act has been "abused" by bureaucrats and environmental groups and needs to be reformed to be less "arbitrary."

maryrose

MM:
You never opposed Donald Trump.
Some people did initially.
He has praised him about the hurricane relief and the travel ban and Judge Gorsuch.
Everyone isn't a gung ho fan.
He is good for our country right now.
All the people I mentioned above support him and realize this.
The GOP has captured all the legislative branches.
They still have a lot to do.
The worst we can do is have super high expectations for them.
Reasonable ones , yes but I always lower mine because then I am less disappointed.

Ralph L

he wee the giant killer re wofford.
He might have trouble if it comes out that he's into watersports.

DebinGA

Villenueva seems to say now his anthem/flag watching was accidental, in that he agreed with the Steeler coach's group solidarity plan, but was caught on camera while unintentionally separate from the team. I hope folks who went out and bought his jersey haven't cut of the tags yet.

Porchlight

Disappointing, DebinGA. To say the least.

 narciso./

Was a giant killer, a senator for two terms,

We know that the clique swallow but don't digest true outsiders like the huntress, or trump.99 the younger montes Bradley is wise on many things but he seems to have bought the narrative
On the former.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Porchlight,

Not the Trump election last fall. The ROMNEY election in 2012!! THAT is when they called me!!!

GUS

a players popularity has NOTHING to do with HIS TAKE of Jersey cash.

BTW, I post like CAPN' every so often, but I do it in all CAPS.

Anyway,Capn and Lyle are 2 of the best.

Catsmeat

Oh, that's awful--cleats of clay for Villenueva.

Stephanie

Am sitting in a Longhorn and no sports on in the bar. Tucker Carlson is on and some show from HGTV.

Wow!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Catsmeat,

I would not be surprised to find out his family was threatened. We are talking billions of dollars here, including gambling money, not to mention the thuggish pals of some of the kneelers.

 narciso./

You know who else is saying the Russians were fixing epthe election, the Chechen Al queda website kavkaz

art in newport

Cowboys all took a knee. But not during the anthem. Arizona fans booed.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

art in newport,

So what kind of protest is that? Kneel before Zod?

common man

100% of the Cowboys stood for the national anthem. That is my issue. They can say a personal prayer, look for a contact or anything else before that and I could not care less.

henry

Would you believe the Russian Facebook ads were pro Hillary? Well pro abortion, pro BLM, etc per ZH.

art in newport

Who knows, Miss Marple?

I just turned it on because some were saying they would all stand. Jerry Jones was in the middle of the line, all with linked arms.

I turned it off after that.

Captain Hate

Lest I be misunderstood on this, let me make one thing abundantly clear: I despise Mike Tomlin, a lowlife POS who gets away with much more than other head coaches are allowed because Rooney and Goodell are such self hating pussies. That said, I can understand him wanting to keep the team together off the field for the purpose of internal cohesion. Granted there were and are better ways to accomplish that which, unlike what he did, adhere to the rules (does anybody know if King Roger the Pudgy is penalizing the team; don't laugh too hard) but I don't consider this nearly as bad as when he disrupted a Ravens kickoff return by "accidentally" stepping on the field and only suffered a one game rip from the previously mentioned self hating Goodell.

DebinGA

Cowboys are one of 6 teams not to have a player kneel, until today when the entire team knelt very briefly just before or just after the anthem. The best solution I see is nixxing the anthem playing except for special occasions like July 4 or the first game - as was originally the case for decades.

 narciso./

It really is some opposite world, red queen was so laden down with Russian money it should have been called the stroganoff express (Veselberg,
The magnitsky laundries of HSBC and renaissance bank,) now Zuckerberg master of the universe expects us to believe he was pranked by the Ivan's like he did to saverin once upon a time.

Kevlar Kid

So the POTUS tosses a handful of mayhem over yonder re the Anthem tussle and it dominates the news cycle.

Meanwhile, the "resistance" is unaware that POTUS has reduced the dollar value of federal regulations by $632 million since taking office in January. Obama imposed billions each year of his 8 in office.

These regulatory reductions are a big flippin deal. Not a peep from economists today who are saying Trump is not living up to his campaign pledge to get the economy going.

Well, ya, if it isn't reported means the same thing as it isn't happening.

But the Resistance is reported and therefore is all that is to be believed about the Trump presidency and what a failure it is. Nine months in and the jury is in based on an NFL protest, a pussyhat protest, etc etc etc.

Let them continue to march to their fantasies about cop murder and free income pushed by Zuckerberg and other rich guys.

Meanwhile, POTUS plays small ball and lays trap after trap against his opposition.

The NFL anthem tweets being the latest. 2018 is going to be a midterm slaughterhouse.

Will be interesting to see what it takes for Paul Ryan and Rand Paul and all the other children in Congress to get on board with an economic program that is already showing signs of growth and victory over 8 years of Obama Strangulation by Regulation.

Porchlight

The only solution is to punish the kneeling players.

Nothing else will bring back the angry fans. Certainly not axing the anthem, which would be total capitulation.

Stephanie


Awe hell no deb. tine to double down and add battle hymn of the republic, America the beautiful, etc between the quarters and finish with Elvis rendention of American Trilogy at the end of the game.

:)

Captain Hate

ace is reporting that Susan Collins is voting against the ZippyCare replacement bill. I thought that had already happened, hence the prior horsewhipping comment. It's not like she's predictable or anything...

art in newport

.. The best solution I see is nixxing the anthem playing except for special occasions ..

No longer a concern for me.

Porchlight

Bills employee of 30 years resigns after team takes a knee

https://i.redd.it/fjlwxa5n84oz.png

Captain Hate

Yes, Porch and others, I'm conflicted on the rightness of nixing the National Anthem. Believe me, I don't want to give the haters of the country a perceived victory, although those numbskulls could interpret getting a broken nose in a fight as winning because of how much blood they got on the guy pounding them. But I hate the GD oligarchs who moved the Chargers to Lost Angeles wrapping themselves in the flag.

So I'm vexed.

Kevlar Kid

I explained to a seventy-something Berkeley resident (lifetime Democrat voter) that Black Lives Matter endorses killing of police.

And that the NFL protest of our National Anthem endorses Black Lives Matters platform which went viral following the Ferguson debacle orchestrated by Barack Obama's Justice Department.

"So then, do you endorse the murder of cops?" I asked my new friend.

"I had no idea that was what this protest was all about."

I said "You have an obligation to share our conversation with others who talk with you about the NFL protest. Get the truth out. Otherwise you're being played."

Kev Appleseed

art in newport

A comment from the Conservative Treehouse:

trad55 says: September 25, 2017 at 8:42 pm

We’re at a restaurant. When the entire Dallas team and entourage took a knee, we and several other tables asked them to change the channel. The manager just came by and thanked us. Her son is in the military. Ours too, now retired but still involved.

I have a sense that attitudes are hardening.


Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 11m11 minutes ago

Texas & Florida are doing great but Puerto Rico, which was already suffering from broken infrastructure & massive debt, is in deep trouble..

...It's old electrical grid, which was in terrible shape, was devastated. Much of the Island was destroyed, with billions of dollars....

===========================

I think there will be more to this tweet, but decided to go ahead and post what I had.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Here's the rest!

...owed to Wall Street and the banks which, sadly, must be dealt with. Food, water and medical are top priorities - and doing well. #FEMA

Catsmeat

Love my president! Thank you, again, MM, for keeping us updated as to his tweets (I don't do twitter, so you are my way in).

Jack is Back!

If Villanueva apologized it wasn't voluntary. I have known a lot of Rangers and West Point grads in my time in and as a Vet. Out of character to apologize for a righteous decision.

There must have been unbelievable pressure on him. I'd like to see an interview with him and have O'Reilly's body language expert translate for us.

For an outfit famous for never leaving their wounded and dead behind, I doubt he did this out of respect for Tomlin and team.

DebinGA

Anthem playing at every game only started when sound systems were put in venues, and recordings made it unnecessary to hire bands. Before that, the anthem was reserved for special occasions. If there's no anthem, there no justification for players kneeling or reason they shouldn't be punished for pulling a publicity stunt.

Porchlight

I'm sure his arm was twisted. Still very disappointing. The Kneelers will regret this.

henry

The plan was to stand there with the captains... seems they ditched him.

 narciso./

They are spending close to a quarter million dollars a day, in the Alabama primary, that is
Insane.

Captain Hate

I agree, Porch. I think Roethlisberger's statement of regret for not joining him was heartfelt and indicates as fissured of a team as the fanbase. This will not end well for them unless the kneelers grow a brain.

Rocco

A Civil War sketch of the First Maryland Regiment playing football before evening parade.

http://mitchellarchives.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/hw-football-sketch.jpg

The blood of Civil War veterans who died to free the slaves, now fertilizes the ground these descendants make millions on. How's that for irony?

common man

When @dallascowboys knelt pregame it was in prayer for equality and unity, not during anthem. Stood arm in arm during anthem

According to the sideline reporter

derwill

There is no longer a solution, Deb. The NFL can't stop the kneeling, because raaacciissmm!!! And if they cancel the anthem, will they also cancel the flag honor guard? And do you think the fans, already made as wet hornets, won't react negatively to the canceling of the anthem even more so than they are now? So they'll have to let it go on, but every week it goes on the more they'll bleed fans and revenue, and eventually the sponsors will start hitting the panic button, but even then they'll have to let it go on, because racism.

And the kneelers, having been empowered, and being agitated by outside forces, will just ratchet their protests up. The whole end game is to divide the country and it's working, so they won't stop. They'll be burning flags and spitting on the troops before long. We've seen this movie before.

Buckeye

You know you are in third world country when you see lots of people stealing electricity. Climb a pole and "Hotwire" your feed.

I have seen that in Puerto Rico, also Brazil, Venezuela and rural China.

Refrigerator is first thing to get plugged in. TV the second.

RattlerGator

KK, I've been wondering what the heck happened to you, my man.

Good to see you're still givin' them da bidness !!!

DebinGA

Well, derwill, your scenario sounds like a nightmare for Dems in 2018 and 2020. I feel better already.

Janet 🚬

from henry's 8:31 - "“Their aim was to sow chaos,” said Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), vice-chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. “In many cases, it was more about voter suppression rather than increasing turnout.”

The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Adam Schiff of California, said he hoped the public would be able to review the ad campaign.

“I think the American people should see a representative sample of these ads to see how cynical the Russian were using these ads to sow division within our society,”

Bold mine

I want to see them ALL. No "representative sample" picked out by Warner & Schiff & the MFM.

Ralph L

Deb, the terrorists will win if we don't play the anthem.

RattlerGator

Don't even think about ending the tradition of playing the anthem.

And, as a life-long Cowboys fan, I don't like the cutesy bullshit that Jerry Jones probably thinks was an oh, so clever middle ground.

Wrong.

Who would have thought the freaking Houston Texans would have outdone the Cowboys on this issue !?!

Janet 🚬

"with some ads promoting African-American rights groups including Black Lives Matter"

So Russians & the NFL kneelers are teammates.

derwill

It is a nightmare for the dems, Deb. That is why Trump is pouring gasoline on the fire. As I said before it was cynical and ruthless of him, and a play right out of the Left's handbook. And about damn time, I might add, that we got some of our own back.

He's got them boxed in. They can't back down, but going forward only makes their situation worse.

boris

"So Russians & the NFL kneelers are teammates"

Comrades in collusion.

henry

His tweets on PR cut off a diversion they are trying.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--Villenueva seems to say now his anthem/flag watching was accidental, in that he agreed with the Steeler coach's group solidarity plan, but was caught on camera while unintentionally separate from the team.--

He unintentionally put his hand over his heart?

Apologizing for doing the right thing, especially if it's not even an honest apology never ends well.

Captain Hate

Well stated, derwill. I'm convinced that DJT took a look at the GOP and thought "these saps don't know how to play to win"; which they didn't. I've been waiting for this since Reagan.

GUS

Let me see if I understand some of you.
MOTHERFUCKING ingrate ATHLETES SHIT ON OUR FLAG and on our COUNTRY.

SOLUTION: CANCEL OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM. Are you fucking joking???????

The BEHAVIORS OCCURRED. These MOTHERFUCKERS need to be CALLED OUT one by one by one by one.

How many of you can stomach the battle that these BASTARDS PICKED WITH YOUR COUNTRY.

The MFM and NFL post "shit on America" are VERY VERY VERY TELLING.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Here's a little tid-bit I picked up on Twitter:

With people dropping cable and going to internet viewing, the networks were planning on using NFL revenue to make up the difference.

Pity about that.

DebinGA

I want to hear anthem shenans opinions from 2018 Dem Senate hopefuls Manchin, McCaskill, Donnelly, Brown, Nelson, etc from states Trump won.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/912487929783754755

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 19m19 minutes ago

A few of the many clips of John McCain talking about Repealing & Replacing O'Care. My oh my has he changed-complete turn from years of talk!
======================================

Clips are in link above.

 narciso./

Stuever painted a word picture but it was even stranger than he showed:
http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4917754/Megyn-Kelly-Today-premieres-NBC-host-s-husband.html

Threadkiller

Cancel the anthem? Is that the rally cry?

I missed it.

IMO, an organization that doesn't respect something shouldn't have the privilege of access to it.

If Illinois NAZIs thought their version of respect for the anthem should be heralded, F them too.

The anthem will remain strong outside the hallowed halls reserved for dim bulbs.

America is not being canceled on my watch.

hrtshpdbox

.. as a life-long Cowboys fan, I don't like the cutesy bullshit that Jerry Jones probably thinks was an oh, so clever middle ground.

Right, it doesn't look good for any Cowboy to have their knee touch the ground for any reason, even if it's before the anthem, even if it's supposedly a prayer or "show of unity" (with who, anyway?). I can't see Roger Staubach going along with that "solution". Not good enough, Boys.

common man

anthem shenans opinions from 2018 Dem Senate

And Baldwin, Heitkamp, and Stabmenow and...

Rocco

Good enough for me! They all stood for the anthem unlike every other team in the NFL.

Go Cowboys!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

Big election tomorrow in the Great State of Alabama. Vote for Senator Luther Strange, tough on crime & border - will never let you down!

Dave (in MA)

Hopefully someone'll kneel on a thumbtack.

Clarice Feldman

I hope Zinke runs for president one day. He's smart--no nonsense and straight arrow.

Captain Hate

The Restraining Order is in big trouble with this nonsense. He's been painted into a corner as long as Mandel doesn't blow it.

 narciso./

Wonder where he is now:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4918010/Seen-time-British-ISIS-jihadis.html

Note his itinerary

Buckeye

Should have nipped this in the bud a fired Kaepernick.

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