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September 25, 2017

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sbw

Trying to sneak a new thread in, huh?

Found it!

Captain Hate

Among diplomats and national security specialists

State department dead wood.

boris

Sounds like NYT's "Top Aides" = Top Men.

henry

Sue Mi Terry, a former intelligence and National Security Council specialist

Deep State. nuf said.

Threadkiller
His new chief of staff and his national security team have drawn a line at trying to rein in his more incendiary provocations, fearing that their efforts could backfire with a president who bridles at any effort to control him.

There must be some quote attributed to these people. I wonder where it is?

Threadkiller

Former Deep State.

henry

On the fat boy getting a benefit by going on a war footing. That is expensive, and his cash and imports are cut off. When the generals get hungry (or more likely their troops get mutinous due to lack of food), he will be gone.

Sum Ting Wong

"please tell me that "Sue Me" Terry trained as a lawyer. "

That would be her twin sister "Sue Yu" Terry

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

From Appalled;

The reaction he got from the NFL players was the one he was looking for, so he could inflame the culture wars for his political benefit.

To a brave neutral like Sweden, Ireland and Appalled who let others fight the wars, just ending the war is all that matters even if it means surrender and subjugation.

To those of us who understand that culture is what supports or destroys pluralism, republicanism, freedom, real tolerance, free speech, and yeah, life [especially for the unborn] liberty and the pursuit of happiness [including property] it is wondrous that a weird orange haired dude is standing up and for once fighting that fight with us.

Threadkiller

I would have agreed with Maryrose's thread jumping rule if it would have prevented further discussions with Appa-lied the Fibber.

Clarice Feldman

Yes, Iggy!
As for Korea, I'm not weighing in until top flight intel analyst Plame weighs in. (Oh, you say she's preparing to move and is busy? But she just "resigned" from Ploughshares so she has some free time.)

Captain Hate

Too bad Zippy trashed all the intel assets; I'm sure Mommy Ferret considered East Asians slant eyed Devils who ruined the hood.

henry

BREAKING NEWS: Anthony Weiner sentenced to 21 months in prison.

henry

In NY, does that mean he is back on the streets in about a week? It would in Milwaukee.

Appalled

TK:

Those who call Obama an "illegal alien" need to watch their glass houses. "Lyin' Thread" does have a certain ring to it....

I think your point is that you never said you approved of Trump's tweets re the NFL. Truth is that I assumed you did -- was that a bad assumption -- something I shouldn't say I know? Or is my assumption correct.

Or you just going to sit on your "Liar" comment, cause that's more fun, even if it is kinda like, a lie.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

HAHAHA! The NFL owners want their president to have "proper decorum."

Some Fox sports guy on Fox just now.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Sportscaster I mentioned is Jim Gray.

Fox has a vested interest in nipping the idea of a boycott in the bud. I find the idea of owners who tolerated many of the thugs and over-the -top behavior of their players suddenly concerned about proper presidential decorum pretty ironic.

Jack is Back!

On the bike - doing 30 minutes of hills. Watching TWC for updates on PR. Have friends there and can’t get thru.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

henry,

I don't know.

Huma Abedin wasn't with him in the courtroom. Big shocker, I am sure.

Rocco

I'd be surprised if he gets out early with good time or parole. Sex offenders aren't normally paroled or let out early for any reason. No one wants to be held responsible for letting a skinner out early to offend again.

henry

latest from fat boy:


BREAKING NEWS: NORTH KOREA HAS RIGHT TO SHOOT DOWN STRATEGIC U.S. BOMBERS EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IN NORTH KOREAN AIRSPACE

henry

BREAKING NEWS: NORTH KOREAN FOREIGN MINISTER SAYS TRUMP'S COMMENTS OVER THE WEEKEND WERE CLEARLY A DECLARATION OF WAR.

henry

idiot. the war never ended, your grandad signed a cease fire. not the same thing at all.

Appalled

As much as I hate, hate, hate to admit it, I do like the way Trump has handled "Rocket Man". Nothing else has worked -- taunting the guy to show his utter ultimate impotence is about the only strategy left.

Davod

Note to NK Foreign Minister - We are already at war!!!!!

Jack is Back!

Off the bike.

Henry,

Have you been here to navigate the maze?

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/corn-maze-cabinet-curiosity-trilobite?utm_source=Atlas+Obscura+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=bc71bfea01-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_09_25&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f36db9c480-bc71bfea01-66184937&ct=t()&mc_cid=bc71bfea01&mc_eid=d27e03f7b2

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKgH2dXVYAAb8FU.jpg:large

Two posters have posted this screen cap pointing out that they are being tricked into treating him like a monarch. LOL!

rich

>>>Among diplomats and national security specialists ...<<<

These would be the people that brought us to the position we find ourselves in currently: a corrupt sanctions regime which didn't prevent North Korea from developing nuclear weapons and missiles in the first place.

DebinGA

Weiner would remain on the national sex offender registry for life here. He didn't merely possess child porn, which is bad enough. He encouraged and interacted with an underage girl to create it.

RattlerGator

The brilliance of Donald Trump on full display; first the blinkered state of mind of the most privileged Black Americans in America, who just happen to be part of the most privileged population of African descent on the planet:

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/nfl-month-activism-police/

Think about that -- a month to protest a non-existent crisis which is entirely designed to serve leftwing identity politics purposes. The stupidity is breathtaking.

So, in steps our President.

[1] It’s a Trump Trap and the NFL, NBA and Dems Walked Right In
http://datechguyblog.com/2017/09/24/its-a-trump-trap-and-the-nfl-nba-and-dems-walked-right-in/

[2] The Patriots & NFL Lost my Wife Today
http://datechguyblog.com/2017/09/24/the-patriots-nfl-lost-my-wife-today/

[3] The NFL Question Every 2018 Red State Democrat Candidate Now has to Answer
http://datechguyblog.com/2017/09/25/the-nfl-question-every-2018-red-state-democrat-candidate-now-has-to-answer/

He has delivered a kill shot to the leftwing. A devastating kill shot. This may be his most effective tweetstorm ever.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jack,

What a cool maze! Thanks for posting that!

Porchlight

Sue Mi Terry

Sue Mi? Is this like Wi Tu Lo or Ho Lee Fuk?

I see that Sum Ting Wong beat me to it. ;)

RattlerGator

Another "woke" opinion from Chris Buskirk at American Greatness:
https://amgreatness.com/2017/09/23/kaepernick-and-curry-pop-the-sports-bubble/

Intoxicated with their own sense of self-righteousness today’s athlete-protesters look more like rich drunks spouting nonsense than responsible citizens seeking redress. And in doing so they have popped the sports bubble and reminded us that we should stop idolizing overprivileged millionaire Millennials who disrespect this country, her people, and her history. Millions of Americans have recoiled at the divisiveness brought into sports by people like Kaepernick and Curry. And for this we can thank them.

Yep, yep.

Porchlight

From the last thread:

Appalled:

Is Trump -- aka Leader of the US government -- implicitly pressuring the NFL to take a certain action, or just offering his opinion incessantly (sort of like me), to no particular effect?

What was Obama "implicitly" doing, using the power of the United States government, when he told the UN that "the future must not belong to those that slander the prophet of Islam"?

henry

Corn maze? I stick with corn squeezings.

Clarice Feldman

RG--just brilliant!

Appalled

Porch:

Actually, he was doing that, which was why that comment was a disgrace.

DebinGA

Bennett has sat during the national anthem during [Seattle Seahawks] games and raises a fist on the field after making plays in protest of the police.

Almost exactly a year ago, BOzo honored the two Mexico City 1968 Olympians famous for their raised fists protest on the medal stand. The two were frequent guests over the years at BOzo/Jeremiah Wright's church in Chicago. I bet we see more players raising fists on the sidelines soon.

henry

Deb, the raised (blue) fist was the symbol for the WI recall rioters / union thugs.

Eric in Boise

I see that Sum Ting Wong beat me to it. ;)

Heh. I sometimes tell people that if they don't like something I say, they can call my Japanese attorney. His name is "Sosumi".

I then denounce myself, of course.

fdcol63

NFL players and coaches knew there would be a price to pay, but they decided to do it anyway. That's why any boycott needs to last long enough that owners, coaches and the League itself take concrete actions to truly punish those who led these protests and to eliminate any others who might want to do the same in the future. It's way past time to send the message that this divisiveness and ungratefulness won't be tolerated any more.

Jack is Back!

We are not alone.

Over in the UK they are having their own patriotism issue in sports. Should the England national football (soccer) team be allowed to wear the poppie symbol on their "kit" (uniform) during their international game against Germany on Remembrance Day in November.

[They celebrate Remembrance day or the end of WWI on the 11th of November which we celebrate as Veteran's Day].

Of course, the poppie is the national symbol both here and there for recognizing our fallen.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/fa-victory-in-england-poppy-row-n7nz68v0g

Wait until the NFL players start protesting the US flag on the back of their helmets.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Courtroom sketch shows weeping Anthony Weiner holding a tissue:

https://twitter.com/nicolefuller/status/912332492501286917

I can't help enjoying this. Who can remember Weiner as the go-to guy during the Clinton years, always available to defend every crummy thing Clinton did? I do. It was like he lived on cable 24/7.

Porchlight

Actually, he was doing that, which was why that comment was a disgrace.

Hmmm. I don't seem to remember your being bothered by Obama's remark at the time.

More Obama "musts" I don't recall your mentioning:

"In reaffirming the greatness of our nation we understand that greatness is never a given. It must be earned."

"We must always reserve the right to strike unilaterally at terrorists wherever they may exist."

"And so we must realize that the freedoms FDR once spoke of - freedom from want and freedom from fear - do not just come from deposing a tyrant and handing out ballots; they are only realized once the personal and material security of a people is ensured as well."

"I took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution as Commmander-in-Chief, and as a citizen [but not as CiC, obvs] I know that we must never - ever - turn our back on its enduring principles for expedience sake."

"And where terrorists offer only the injustice of disorder and destruction, America must demonstrate that our values and institutions are more resilient than a hateful ideology."

"The non-violence practiced by men like Gandhi and King may not have been practical or possible in every circumstance, but the love that they preached - their fundamental faith in human progress - that must always be the North Star that guides us on our journey."

"To overcome extremism, we must also be vigilant in upholding the values our troops defend - because there is no force in the world more powerful than the example of America."

"I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manfuacturers' lobby."

"My fellow Americans, the oath I have sworn before you today, like the one recited by others who serve in this Capitol, was an oath to God and country, not party or faction. And we must faithfully execute that pledge during the duration of our service.

"America’s prosperity must rest upon the broad shoulders of a rising middle class."

What a dictator.

Extraneus

Porch a must-read for the win!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

In case you were considering watching this new Star Trek series:

http://www.salon.com/2017/09/22/star-trek-discovery-creators-our-klingons-are-secretly-trumpsters/

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

Appalled reserves the right to be against all the wrong things and for all the right ones and never explaining which is which until after the fact.

matt, deplore me if you must


Why didn't the Bears protest the 475+ record number of murders in Chicago, 95% of which are black on black?

mockmook

Yeah, if only the USA had dealt with NK calmly and diplomatically for the last 30 years, NK would never have developed a nuclear arsenal....

matt, deplore me if you must

Querida commented that the Klingons were black and so the show must be racist according to the zampolits.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

The raised fist in the modern era, starts and ends with communists.
They may paint it different pretty colors but in the end it's always just to smash freedom.

Buckeye

I'd be surprised if he gets out early with good time or parole. Sex offenders aren't normally paroled or let out early for any reason. No one wants to be held responsible for letting a skinner out early to offend again.

The judicial system, in it's infinite wisdom, let some pervert out early in C'lumbus. Put an ankle bracelet on the POS. They were therefore able to conclude, after the fact, that yes he was the perp who raped and killed some young OSU coed.

How is that foolishness working out for ya?

lyle

his country on a wartime footing and quash any internal opposition angling for outreach and accommodation with the West.

Grammarians rejoice!

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

If this hasn't been posted: Anthony Weiner got 21 months.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

Sorry Henry, I should have looked first!

RattlerGator

RG--just brilliant!

Posted by: Clarice Feldman | September 25, 2017 at 11:20 AM

Ahhhhhhh, yeah. An excuse to have a bad case of the big head the remainder of the day !!!

Extraneus

‘Trump Must Hang’ Prof Wishes He Had Made His Twitter Account Private

“I would probably have made the Twitter account private, had I realized you could easily do that,” said Maischak to Politico.
lyle

Courtroom sketch shows weeping Anthony Weiner holding a tissue

I don't think I'm stepping on Rocco's turf when I opine that it's my understanding that child molesters are considered the worst scum by the other inmates in the prison criminal hierarchy.

rich

Posted by: mockmook | September 25, 2017 at 11:57 AM

yeah I know. we could send Maddy Notsobright back over there to flatter the dictator.

Extraneus
The professor had tweeted “To save American democracy, Trump must hang. The sooner and higher the better” and “Justice = The execution of two Republicans for each deported immigrant,” among other remarks. After the election, Maischak argued to his students that Trump could be executed, like past fascist leaders, but told Politico that “it got students who voted for Trump very angry.” After being kicked off-campus, however, Maischak reports that his students mostly supported him.
Appalled

Porch:

That's one musty argument. You know, the one where you say you have to agree that all this stuff this politician said was wrong, because there was one thing that President said was wrong. Because, as you know, a lot depends on context.

Obama's comment that I took issue with came before a speech at the UN (that's aboout as official as it gets), and seemed aimed at justifying restrictions on the free speech rights of those who draw cartoons of Mohammed. The combination of context and content make that a disgrace.

The other "musts" -- what's the context? Gun control? Silly throat clearing in a big speech? Pablum for the masses? I don't know, nor much care. What bothered me about Obama's comment was the implicit speech supression advocacy, not his use of the word must.

henry

Or that hack Richardson with a suitcase of cash.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/20/peter-thiel-could-snag-top-intelligence-post-for-trump-administration-says-report/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Captain Hate

Sportscaster I mentioned is Jim Gray.

Dumb as a stump. Marv Albert used to make him the butt of jokes on NBA telecasts.

rich

>>>Or that hack Richardson with a suitcase of cash.

Posted by: henry | September 25, 2017 at 12:16 PM<<<

That was always weird to me-every time there was a problem with the North Koreans, Richardson would get the call. Send in Dennis Rodman!

Jack is Back!

Wasn't it last year around the 15 anniversary of 911 that a couple of players wore special American flag shoes and got damned by the NFL? Maybe I'm wrong here but I remember it was two of the Giants.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Captain Hate,

I think Fox is pretty nervous about losoing those eyeballs for NFL games. Not only have they dragged this guy out to pontificate, but they also did interviews with fans which I suspect was highly edited to give the impression most fans didn't care about the kneeling.

Threadkiller

It’s a Trump Trap and the NFL, NBA and Dems Walked Right In

Sassehole tried to warn them. He is very afraid of Trump.

And, he's a pussy.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jack,

That is correct.

It's been repeatedly posted on Twitter, along with pictures of the shoes.

NFL also prohibited Dallas from putting stickers on their helmets in support of those 5 murdered police officers.

ALSO, the spokeman for the NFL is JOE LOCKHART. And they also hired that DC police chief right after the Inauguration fiasco.

Dave (in MA)

Native Americans call it a maize maze.

-peter

Only about a year ago Weiner was a commentator on Imus claiming that Hillary was gong to win the election. Maybe she'll visit him in jail

rich

this nfl crap is just more of that interminable National Lecture on Race Zero and Friends couldn't stop going on about.

henry

Schumer's protege beat Chuckie to jail. Chuckie must be so proud of him.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

rich,

I am old enough to remember when Phil donahue told us that we just needed to talk about all of this stuff and things would get better.

Yeah, right. All it does is gin up agrgavation on all sides.

rich

just what I need on my Sunday-another lecture by millionaires about my misdeeds.

Porchlight

What bothered me about Obama's comment was the implicit speech supression advocacy, not his use of the word must.

If you had ever mentioned on this blog prior to today that you were bothered by Obama's UN comment, or by any of his administration's other attacks on the first amendment (cake baking anyone? Journalist prosecutions? Hmm?), I might believe you.

If I am misremembering, please correct me.

Captain Hate

Miss Marple,

They haven't interviewed the Browns season ticket owning woman I bought Teddy from because she'll give them an unwanted earful.

derwill

I agree wholeheartedly with RG's 11:10. This whole kneeling for the anthem thing went on all last year (when Obama was still president remember, Appalled?) as a protest against the police, which never made much sense since the national anthem has never been linked in the public's mind to their local police forces.

What Trump just did was take a page out of the Left's playbook. He took that protest of the police (does the guy in the street remember anymore that that was the start of it?) and turned it into a protest against not the police but against the anthem itself, and then he conflated the anthem protest into a protest against the flag, the military, and America itself. And then he baited the MSM/Dems into what he knew would be their knee-jerk reaction--into supporting a protest against America.

Now the Left has found themselves caught in a dilemma with no upside. They either have to continue their support of the anti-America protesters and kiss good-bye all those lofty plans on how they were going to win back the working class vote. Or they can denounce the protesters and piss off the one voting block they absolutely cannot afford to lose if they ever hope to win another election.

Yes, what Trump is doing is cynical and ruthless, (and just the thing the Left used to be so good as doing against us). It's how they've managed to win so much ground in the Culture War. But this time their tactics were used against them, and it is going to cost them bigly.

And I love it!

Appalled

Porch:

I have complained about Obama's anti-free speech urges, beginning with the war against Fox News in his 1st term. Whether I commented on his speech in 2012 -- I am not sure. I did complain about his you tube guy scapegating after Benghazi, aand the idea that anti-Muslim voices should be surpressed because, terrorism.

Not going to search the archives, though. You can take my word, or believe what you want to believe.

henry

excellent point derwill!

DebinGA

CBS: "Weiner sent adult porn to the girl and got her to take her clothes off for him on Skype. ... Meanwhile, defense lawyers for Weiner had portrayed the girl as an aggressor, saying she wanted to generate material for a book and possibly influence the presidential election."

In case anyone wondered why Weiner chose a bench trial instead of a jury. Don't understand why judge failed to give him the 27 mos. prosecutors requested + 10 yrs.

Captain Hate

Steve Kerr, whom I used to like, must feel that he has to make an ass out of himself to defend Steph Curry, who needs to lose that fake street accent to disguise the fact that as the son of an NBA player he grew up in the lap of luxury and isn't fooling a damn person except his asshole fanbase. Keep it up, clowns; I can free up even more spare time.

Let me make it clear to those dense cockwipes: when you insult me you aren't entertaining me. Good luck catering to the deadbeats.

Clarice Feldman

Derwill--reminds me of the scene in Animal House when the gang walked out of the disciplinary hearing.

derwill

All these years I've been critical of the AAs for allowing themselves to be used and abused by willingly staying on the Democtrat Party's plantation, giving that party their vote election after election and getting little in return. But the one thing Trump's candidacy and subsequent election has show me is that I've been just as a big a fool when it came to the GOP.

Trump showed me that the GOP had a plantation too, and I was on it.

DebinGA

You cleared a lot of mists for me, derwil. TY

 narciso./

By kahless, these people are clueless, the klingons were clearly the soviet analog.

Mrs Terry really does validate marko's watchword.

 narciso./

'White Hispanic richardson was ckintons special envoy, sometimes he succeeded in Sudan and Iraq, but one wondered at what cost.

 narciso./

Miss Terry's advice is often helpful;

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/17/opinion/let-north-korea-collapse.html

lyle

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2017/09/carr_president_instantly_sidelines_criticism_of_nfl

The NFL’s run of terrible press is over — when President Trump attacked the league Friday night in Alabama, 99.99 percent of the alt-left media reflexively fell into line in defense of a sport they were denouncing as barbaric as late as Friday afternoon.

You know that torrent of negative news the fellow travelers has been spewing out about pro football — the epidemics of CTE and spousal abuse, the league’s plummeting TV ratings, the half-empty stadiums in California, the $6 tickets going begging, etc., etc.?

Now that Trump has slammed the NFL, it is once again ... America’s Pastime!

 narciso./

This seems to be the head honcho.

http://bowergroupasia.com/teams/marshall-hofmann

derwill

Deb, I admit when I first saw Trump's tweets, I was all what the hell are you doing, man?

But then after it unfolded, it became obvious to me. And if the Left doesn't get a grip on the situation soon, it's going to escalate into some idiot burning a flag on the fifty yard line, and then they're going to find themselves being forced to defend the indefensible. And they will have to, because it started out as a race thing, and race will always have to trump all with them, even when it is political suicide to do so.

Brush stroke by brush stroke Trump is painting the Left into a corner from which it will be hard to escape from. First forcing them to champion violent black-hooded wanna-be ninja warriors and now forcing them to defend stupid protests against America herself.

He's doing the same thing to the GOPe using other tools, but with the same effect.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

derwill,

Exactly right. Anyone watching how he mowed down everyone in the primaries shouldn't be surprised, and I am quite frankly, happy.

It's about time the left started to fear us, and they do, I think fear Trump.

He knows how they operate. He knows LOTS of dirt (note above his comments on Weiner years ago). He has friends everywhere, some that people didn't expect (like King Abdullah of Jordan).

I find this tremendously encouraging and quite fun to watch!

Thomas Collins

I haven't yet reached my boiling point for the NFL, but Mike Tomlin has brought me closer to it.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/24/steelers-coach-didnt-want-army-vet-to-stand-for-anthem-video/?utm_source=site-share

 narciso./

I dvred the first episode out of curiosity, interesting detail they left out was the vulcan advice to a federation officer, when confronted by the klingons attack.

Captain Hate

I'm heartened that some eyes have been opened regarding the perfidy of the GOPe. It's not fun to be told to shut up and get in line

Jack is Back!

derwil,

If they try to burn the flag on the 50 yard line, I hope there is a neo-Rick Monday around.

Captain Hate

Tomlin is the JEF of head coaches.

maryrose

TC
Derwill
Excellent comments.
Yes the true reveal of the Left is as ugly as we knew it would be.

lyle

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-politicization-of-everything-1506291118

Everybody loses in the Trump-NFL brawl over the national anthem.

Perhaps. But who started it?

Jack is Back!

CH,

My USNA QB (before Staubach) is a rabid Stoolers fan but also former Naval pilot and he sent me the article in the Pittsburgh Tribune how Villanueva single handedly showed Tomlin for the idiot he is. As my friend said, "they should have fired him last year when they had the chance."

But that isn't happening in a Dan Rooney team.

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