Fanning The NFL Flames

VP Pence's trip to Indianapolis to watch the Colts honor Peyton Manning, and his walkout during the anthem, seem like a stunt to fan flames that don't need fanning. And now Dallas owner Jerry Jones is a tough guy?

ARLINGTON -- Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Sunday that any of his players who disrespect the flag during the national anthem won't play in games.

Jones is the first NFL owner to publicly make a stand about disciplining players who kneel during the anthem. Jones didn't specify what kind of other demonstration he would consider disrespectful.

Cowboys defensive linemen Damontre' Moore and David Irving stood alongside teammates during the national anthem before Sunday's home game against Green Bay at AT&T Stadium. At the conclusion of the anthem, the two players raised their fists.

"I don't know about that. But if there is anything that is disrespectful to the flag then we will not play," Jones said after the Cowboys' 35-31 loss. "You understand? If we are disrespecting the flag then we won't play. Period.

"We're going to respect the flag, and I'm going to create the perception of it. And we have."

 

Comments

[Captain Hate]

Wow, kudos to Graham for that response. McRINO must have a hurt look on his stupid mug.

[Jane (Stand against the Coup)]

Dave,

Are the Red Sox out?

[maryrose]

So Lindsey is in now because he played golf with President Trump.
Early on Corker did as well.
My sister had a chevy Nova.
A bad winter in 1975 caused her car to be literally buried in snow out in Chardonnay which is the snow belt area.

[maryrose]

Should be Chardon.

[Account Deleted]

"Yeah, it’s called a future."

I had a hunch you suffered from cranial-rectal inversion; but, I had no idea it was this severe.

;)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Well, maryrose, we don't know WHY he played golf with President Trump. I posted it because it is news.

Could be that they were discussing what to do about McCain.

Could be that Trump was leaning on him over the tax reform bill.

If Corker played golf with Trump, it was only AFTER playing golf with Obama last year, when they were working on the Iran deal.

[maryrose]

Gentle Jim:
The more prisoners the better.
Besides we have plenty of room at Gitmo after Obama cleaned the place out.

[Extraneus]

It'd be nice to see Obama and Trump play a round for American unity. Put it out on youtube.

[maryrose]

Corker is an equal opportunity golf player.
I am kidding here folks.
So no more Lindsey bashing?

[Porchlight]

Haha, Obama would never agree to be publicly humiliated on the course.

[maryrose]

Ext:
Gag me with a spoon!

[lyle]

Surely you jest, Ex. Zippy wouldn't be caught dead letting anyone know how much of a shitty golfer he is. Especially not Trump.

[Account Deleted]

"I didn't mean to be offensive at all. I simply don't understand this. It isn't that I think I am superior. I am just different and I don't get it. Sorry,/i>"

I'm used to it, MM. It's a common reaction I've encountered time and again over the last 40 years.

There's a name for it but if I were to utter it here there would be a royal shitstorm and I don't have the bandwidth right now.

No need to apologize. We're good.

[Account Deleted]

dammit

help

[Comanche Voter]

Jerry Jones is from Arkansas; while the Cowboys like to call themselves "Americas Team" their local fan base are Texans. And Texans aren't fond of that sort of nonsense. Jerry woke up and smelled the coffee on this protest issue.

[maryrose]

Cubs/ Nationals game is on TBS now.

[henry]

boo cubs

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Jerry woke up and smelled the coffee on this protest issue.

Absolutely true Comanche Voter-Texans were not pleased with his trying to have it both ways in the previous game.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Go Cubbies!!!!

[henry]

Now AL Sharpton wants to boycott all ESPN advertisers over M's Hill being an idiot. Al, since I never watch ESPN, I don't know who to buycott.

[Jim Eagle]

Suzy Colbert and everyone on ESPN right now have no damn idea what the hell they are talking about in regard to the flag and anthem issue. Its a result of Ayers war on education. Well done Bill.

[JimNorCal]

EffEmAll ratings continue to dip.
http://deadline.com/2017/10/chiefs-unbeaten-sunday-night-football-ratings-down-nfl-nbc-mike-pence-1202184788/

[JimNorCal]

*NFL*

[mad jack]

well now since everyone hates espn I'd call this a win for the MAGA team. bringing the country together!!!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

At the risk of igniting a shitstorm;

How is this;

“The loss of language,
traditions, and family was and is so huge. How
can we understand that?” asks Rosemary.

To help non-Native and Native people
understand the horrific effect of these losses,
Rosemary asks them, “Imagine that someone
takes away your holidays and traditions.

Youcan no longer celebrate Christmas, Easter, or
Thanksgiving. Imagine someone telling you
if you speak your own language, you will be
punished.

Further, imagine someone taking your
home away and making you move to a barren
piece of land.”

a lot different from what the Irish, Jews, Chinese, Vietnamese, Italians and Poles ad infinitum experienced?
Many of them didn't come here because they had a good life and they wanted to have a great one. Many lost their lands and languages and families to murderous invaders or diseases or famines or genocides in their home lands and escaped to the new world by the skin of their teeth and were treated like dirt when they got here.
I don't know what the answer is but it seems to me those who think they are suffering now because they were uniquely abused historically often get stuck.

[mad jack]

formerly fat al is just trying to jump on the f espn bandwagon so he can take credit for their cratering ratings. too late al. ms hills show was tanking well before her tweeting screwups.

[Jim Eagle]

mad jack

But the Espn pre-game show was hilarious in how they tried to ratrionalize the protests. And Steve Young is a lawyer and Mormon. Where the hell did he go wrong. The rest are just ignorant of history and philosophy.

[Ralph L]

I love goat behind, the door is tasty too.

[Porchlight]

Watching the ESPN SJWs squirm is deeply satisfying.

[Captain Hate]

Jemele is terminally ignorant. She used to try and boost her "controversial" cred by saying Michael Jordan was overrated when all she was was a stupid Piston's fan who could never get the taste of his ass out of her stupid yap. Way to go hiring this retard, ESPN. Idiots.

[mad jack]

i give you guys credit for watching as i have given up on those clowns. i dont have the stomach for it anymore.

[Captain Hate]

I haven't watched the NFL since week 1 and don't have cable.

[sbw]

Kev, no one can hug anyone else close enough not to be alone in this world. The past is a maze and the future is opaque. We fashion our lives to have as much meaning as we can and build bridges to others who can see benefit in society.

Each of us is in charge of our single point of awareness and anyone who is in anguish about that which is out of their control is a candidate to re-calibrate or waste yet another moment in their short lives.

[mad jack]

JIB: Young doesn't want to loose his espn gig. might have to actually practice law and once you're out you never want to go back :-)

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Hey Chicago What Do You Say - Cubs are gonna win today!!!!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A maize maze?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Jemele is terminally ignorant.--

Ding, ding, ding; though I might have used "abysmally" instead.

[Captain Hate]

Does any team choke worse than the Nats? Other than the Caps?

[mad jack]

the term "invincible ignorance" was used regularly by a certain nun who happened to be the older sibling of a friend of mine. mostly used to reference her younger brother and me:-)

[henry]

Now they tell us Paddock shot the Security Guard before he shot the concert crowd.

[narciso]

Really, how does that jibe? What tipped him off.

[Porchlight]

How can the timeline change so fundamentally at this late date? The security guard surely knew when he was shot.

[Porchlight]

But we shouldn't speculate.

[henry]

Narciso, I don't know. Just saw some tweets about it.

[Captain Hate]

Can these assholes get their stories right?

[henry]

Porchlight, at least Vegas doesn't have a grassy knoll.

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

So true in re any DC teams and I include the Bullets.

[Jim Eagle]

Knocking out the windows, They were wired.?

[sbw]

Ig: A maize maze?

That’s corny.

[maryrose]

Definitely said only one shooter.

[windansea]

How can the timeline change so fundamentally at this late date? The security guard surely knew when he was shot.

This is totally whacked out. They can't get the basic timeline correct. They were calling Campos a hero cuz he stopped the shooting into crowd.

That's it, I'm going to join the conspiracy nuts now. Please don't hate me :)

[narciso]

I heard that snippet and I wasnt clear what they .want, maybe they should replace lombardi with Paul guilfoyle (detective. Brass from CSI)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

ALSO, now they are saying that the calls from places like the Tropicana were made to divert attention!

Two days ago the Las Vegas Fire Chief said those calls came from people who had been wounded at the concert and fled back to their hotels before calling 911, which explained the confusion.

If there were calls to divert attention, then there were accomplices, and if there were accomplices, then ladies and gentlemen, we have a conspiracy!

[windansea]

Really, how does that jibe? What tipped him off.

He went to 32nd floor to check out an open door alarm. They haven't changed that yet.

[narciso]

We're through the looking glass here people,

Layers of editors:

https://mobile.twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/916856013004988417

Mind you this comes from a three level mensch

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sen-bob-corker-failed-to-properly-disclose-millions-of-dollars-in-income-1450051046

Behind the paywall, but there's enough there to get the gist of it.

[Jim Eagle]

Slaap lekker, tot morgen.

MAGA

[Captain Hate]

Fucking Urshela; catch the GD ball. Should've been a 123 inning and now the whole thing is on the verge of blowing up.

[narciso]

Its time for a more plausible scenario, the season premiere of supergirl.

[mad jack]

please, please, please tribe. don't lose to the fn yankees.

[Captain Hate]

Welp on to Supergirl.

[Gentlejim]

Maryrose,
I understand what you’re saying in regard to prisoners, but there is no need to feed and house a corpse. If the rock worshipers want to raise arms against the US of A, I think they should understand that their only outcome is death. You don’t want to die, crawl back under your rock and behave. Asking nicely doesn’t work. Neither does drawing multiple red lines in the sand. Just my stupid opinion.

[narciso]

Ideally detention and interrogation protocols should apply, but the left blew those to hell, so the old fashioned models Co shoot first and ask questions later like the gal and the sac need apply.

[JimNorCal]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-09/trump-expedite-death-obamacare-healthcare-stocks-clown-punch-lower
Over the weekend it was announced that President Trump was going to ditch restrictions that banned people from buying health instance across state lines. For the love of God, he's going to allow competition and not force you to buy from your state monopoly. ... Critics worry that they set people up for "junk insurance" and would further destabilize the Obamacare exchanges, which already are plagued with mass exits by insurers and double-digit premium hikes. The move, critics say, could result in an even sicker population on the exchanges while healthier customers are picked off into the association health plans.

Still, the proposal is popular with conservatives. Middle class customers who don't receive subsidies under Obamacare are facing the prospect of buying more expensive coverage in 2018 through Obamacare's exchanges, and could avail themselves of the option.

Spirited discussion in the comments.

[windansea]

So where is the recording of 200 shots fired thru the door at security guard 9:59pm, then 6 minutes of silence followed at 10:05 pm by Paddock's attack on the concert?

This is an unbelievable error, Sheriff is gonna get fired.

[lyle]

The cat on Jeopardy has now won 365 geezles. I believe that is more than any contestant on any Monty Hall show...

[narciso]

Wait there is more:
https://mobile.twitter.com/adamcandee/status/917514759917801472?p=v

This wouldn't have passed muster on CSI, as a script

[Catsmeat]

sbw, many thumbs up on your 7:15--

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I TOLD you guys that this thing was going to drive everyone crazy! Everything keeps changing!

[JohnH]

JIB,
Good luck with Ludwig’s nutritional approach (diet). I’ve done Atkins at various times of my life with great success but eventual weight return. I like the variety of the “good” carbs allowed with Ludwig, especially the non-tropical fruit. I’ve lost a lot of weight without dieting since retiring in May. Less drinking (why??? sad face) and less grab and go eating. Can’t wait to freak out my primary care phys. when I see him at the end of the month.

[windansea]

Ok, got some new theories

1. The FBI made Police and security guard lie about timeline cuz they have a lead they are trying to flush out.

2. Mandalay Bay owners lied to Police/FBI about security guard for CYA on future lawsuits.

3. Deep State (this covers any eventuality)

[henry]

From our Chitoen lurker:

Please ask windandsea this for me:

“That’s nice that you wish to join The Conspiracy. By any chance, do you have a reservation?”

[windansea]

“That’s nice that you wish to join The Conspiracy. By any chance, do you have a reservation?”

LOL

4. The LVPD/FBI are complete fuckups and can't even get a simple timeline correct.

[Buckeye]

This is an unbelievable error, Sheriff is gonna get fired.

Why do I think the casinos own the cops?

Why do I think Steve Wynn is blowing smoke?

[windansea]

5. The combined universal string theory

Paddock is actually a Russian/Deep State sleeper agent who was programed to assassinate Steve Wynn. The security guard interrupted his preparations and while firing 200 shots through the door he missed the Telefon call. Finding himself in a room with 23 high power rifles and bump stocks, he gulped a bottle a Valium with Tequila, and decided to shoot up a concert across the street.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

windandsea,

Good for you in taking the joshing in good humor!

Seriously, when this first happened I thought the sheriff was on top of everything and very professional. Now I am thinking he is either your option #1 (making up a story while searching for the real culprit) OR a complete screw up who is just good at PR.

I follow a couple of people on Twitter who are following this case and they are beside themselves!

[Clarice Feldman]

I'm with # 4

[lyle]

I'm tellin' ya, vertebrae fusion surgery is great for weight loss. It will be 16 weeks Wednesday and I'm still down 14 lbs. BMI: 26. 🤔

[narciso]

Yes that's a reasonable conclusion, they were unprepared for this, even though they had to have imagined Vegas would be a target at some point.

[Clarice Feldman]

I don't know if I really want to try that, lyle. even the all potato diet sounds better.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Horrible news - My husband's fraternity brother and part time business partner's home, winery and rental property were burnt to the ground today in Glen Ellen, CA.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Texas Liberty Gal,

How awful!

[maryrose]

This reminds me of the JonBenet case in Colorado.
Confusion and major inconsistencies and incompetent law enforcement.

[Thomas Collins]

Red Sox are out, Jane. Wait till next year time for Bosox aficionados.

[narciso]

That's terrible, tlg

[maryrose]

How are you feeling Lyle?
I still can't believe they didn't have metal detectors.

[maryrose]

TLG:
So sorry to hear that.

[Porchlight]

That's awful, TLG. So sorry.

[lyle]

Sorry for my lack of sarcasm font, Clarice.

The back is doing great, maryrose. Thanks for asking. Still dealing with neuropathy in the left foot but that is getting better...s l o w l y. Still walked 2+ miles this afternoon with little discomfort. Yay!

[lyle]

Any wildfire damage is horrible but the Napa/Sonoma area is rather special to me. Absolutely love Santa Rosa. Ugh.

[sbw]

neuropathy in the left foot

Mine responded (I like to think) to B-12.

[Captain Hate]

Dear President Trump,

Please deport Giovanny Urshela to Colombia because fuck him.

Yours in MAGA,
CH

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

New Vegas theory from 0Hour:

What if the maintenance guy, the security guy, and some others were in on a plot to rob the casino? That would explain the nu,ber of weapons.

So something went wrong and somebody, Paddock or one of the others, started shooting into the crowd to provide a distraction. Then one of them shot Paddock to have a scapegoat and then went down the service stairs.

Remember, Paddock's dad was a bank robber.

[Porchlight]

windansea :)

There's no need to buy into the most outlandish theories to see that there's a ton of stuff that doesn't add up.

LV is a corrupt town and there are many big players with major motivation to hide/obfuscate. Maybe even threaten.

I still have bets on political radicalization of some sort.

[DrJ]

Horrible news, TLG.

This part of the fire has been much less reported on. This is in Valley of the Moon that runs from SE Santa Rosa to the town of Sonoma. It is pretty much straight vineyards, with tourist support (restaurants, hotels, and the like).

[Clarice Feldman]

A lovely part of the country, though I wonder --with the land prices there so high and good wine being produced all over the world--is it really the best place for vineyards? I can't imagine how they stay profitable.

[DebinGA]

Terrible news, TLG.

Re Sheriff Lombardo, anyone else find the body language of the FBI Special Agent at his side rather jarring? Both times I've seen Lombardo, the same FBI guy hasn't spoken. He's oddly close to Lombardo with his body turned toward him, not the press. Gives the impression he's not there representing the FBI as question answerer, but to watch Lombardo closely and stop him in his tracks if he goes off the designated rails.

[lyle]

I'll check it out, sbw. I've tried dang near everything else including hemp oil without much luck. 5mg of oxicodone at night seems to be the only real solution along with Lyrica. Hate taking both.

[Ralph L]

It makes no sense to shoot someone in the hallway who can't see what you're up to before you start killing the crowd.

[DrJ]

I can't imagine how they stay profitable.

They charge you a lot for their product. Wine taste really does depend on the climate/microclimate and soil. For high-quality wines, it is tough to beat Napa or
Sonoma in the US.

The area around here has been trying to establish a wine country and recognized products. There are a few good ones, but not that many. It is the climate and the soil.