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October 07, 2017

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-peter

Two threads in a row about persons on the extremes of the Bell curve

henry

Yep. The secret seems to be avoid formal schools at all costs.

henry

Also, upon a quick search I did not even understand the English translations of his math.

Extraneus

I know most people ready Insty here, but...

Dr. Seuss museum to replace mural after complaints of racism

Thomas Collins

It's not unusual for brilliant people to be so restless as to be unable to secure credentials or get to a position to pass on knowledge. It sounds as if VV's work was so evidently superior that, through Kapranov, Harvard and Princeton, he was able to pass on his work. Others end up on the street and may be considered nuts.

Extraneus

After Losing Millions To Nigerian Scammers, A Bankrupt Boris Becker Is Liquidating His Assets

Thomas Collins

Then there are the people who flunk out because they are just dumb (not that there's anything wrong with that, as Seinfeld might say).

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Seinfeld reminds me that my daughter had on a Jerry Seinfeld routine on Netflix last night, and it was genuinely funny. It was all about his childhood, vacations, and amusement park rides. No politics.

Thomas Collins

Extraneus, it sounds as Becker might have been better off parking his money with those heirs of African potentates who have emailed me.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3m3 minutes ago

Leaving the White House for the Great State of North Carolina. Big progress being made on many fronts!
==================================

He has a fundraiser in North Carolina tonight.

Ralph L

Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton
My cousin had an apartment in its original building when he was on their development staff. I spent a night there when looking at colleges in '77.

It didn't help me.

I went during their spring break, so the campus was empty and leafless.

I was a math major, yet I first heard of the Fields medal when that female winner died recently. There's a big chasm between undergrad and his level.

Thomas Collins

MM, I liked the TV show more for the snippets of his comedy routines than the show itself (although I did find the show amusing).

GUS

Either Dr Seuss IS or ISN'T RACIST.
I guess the museum backing down, gives me my answer.
Where do we send our childrens RACIST DR SEUSS books to be BURNED/PURGED.
Perhaps the DR SEUSS MUSEUM for BALL-LESS LIBTARDS is accepting these??

Extraneus

I love reading stories like this math guy. Not to brag, but I had a pretty high aptitude for math several million brain cells ago. It was fun and easy. It's cool to read about the real geniuses, and imagine how much more fun and easy it must have been for them.

In physics grad school, we had this 12-year-old kid join our classes mid-way through a semester. Although he missed weeks of lectures, he did fine, as if he already knew the stuff. Pretty sure he aced everything.

I talked to him a few times, and he really was just a 12-year-old kid. He kept to himself, and his parents dropped him off in the morning and picked him up at night at the library. Don't remember his name but he's the closest thing I ever came to knowing one of these true geniuses.

Ralph L

I can't bear Seinfeld's voice. Nails on chalkboard to me.

Few mathematicians expand the envelope in middle age. Galois wrote down his ground-breaking theory that I can't remember on the night before a duel that killed him at 23.

My math abilities have certainly gone to mush, but I can still remember phone numbers.


Ralph L

It was fun and easy.
And you don't have to write papers or essay questions.

Buford Gooch

Lots of extremely intelligent kids are bored near to death by school. It was bad 60 years ago, when I was there. It's far worse now. "Mainstreaming" is forcing teachers to teach to the poorest students in the class. The average ones are fairly bored. The highly intelligent ones are way past that.

lyle

The early episodes of Seinfeld were almost completely unfunny. Some of the later ones were so funny I laughed until tears were running down my face.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I struggled with math in high school. Only took algebra and geometry (old style with the written proofs, which I did well at). Anythin beyond that was not going to be something I did well at.

When I went to college I was intending to major in journalism. (Bullet dodged.) Dropped out and got married. Foove years later went back to college and ended up majoring in geology. Unfortunately, chemistry and physics were required and their prerequisites were advanced algebra and trig. Yikes!

Imagine my surprise when I had no difficulty in getting a B, even though it was college level. I also had no problem with the equations in physics or chemistry.

My theory on this is that math capabilities don't mature in your brain until you are older, at least for people like me.

I wish someone would do a study on this.

Jack is Back!

Terrific story but The Times of London would have done a much better job of the obit. Best obit writers in the world work for the times. I think they have a higher pay scale than the journeyman reporters there.

As an Engineer, I stopped at Differentials and Calculus. These guys are in a different orbit and I think one of the biomedical challenges will be too figure out how they differentiate themselves from us mere mortals. I think the Institute for Advanced Study was Einstein's old haunt as well as Feynman before he went to CalTech. How'd you like to take coffe in their faculty lounge. Intimidating if any of them as you to provide a proof:)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Late to all threads. Just back from our Homecoming game against Wyandanch which we won 24-0. They are an all-AA team and during the singing of the National Anthem, half of them knelt and some even sat or just horseplayed. Sad to see young men influenced by a bunch of jackasses who have no idea what they are kneeling for and disrespecting our flag and anthem.

It there is anything that pisses me off more is how the NFL is polluting young black minds. Young black men have enough to deal with in their lives and the NFL asses have now contributed more. Bastards.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Tweet by Charlie Spearing:

“He loves doing this more than any other job that he’s ever done,” Trump says about John Kelly, predicting that he’ll stay for next 7 years.


I am assuming he has seen clips of the Huckabee interview.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Shortly after Bloom's announcement, NY Times investigative reporter Jodi Kantor reported that Lanny Davis, another member of Weinstein's crisis management team and former special counsel to Bill Clinton, was also leaving. "Update: Lanny Davis is out too. Harvey Weinstein's crisis management team appears to be dissolving even as new q's about his future pile up," she wrote.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lisa-bloom-resigns-as-harvey-weinstein-advisor-1046819?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Extraneus

Still no sex admissions?

“I walked in and I saw Harvey, and I said, ‘Hello, Harvey,’ and I dropped my pants down,” Ms. Dench recalls gleefully.

Ms. Winfrey, Mr. Weinstein recalls, “turned into a 12-year-old squealing girl” after Ms. Dench told her, “I hear you’ve been doubting my love for Harvey?” as she unzipped her pants.

anonamom

Lots of extremely intelligent kids are bored near to death by school. It was bad 60 years ago, when I was there. It's far worse now.

Why my kids went to Montessori school. When the youngest finished and had to go to traditional school for seventh grade, he told me:
"School is child prison."

rich

even Lanny Davis slithering away?

Extraneus
While a number of female celebrities have spoken out since the allegations broke, including actresses Amber Tamblyn, Lena Dunham, and Brie Larson, several A-list stars who worked with Weinstein on Oscar-winning films have remained silent, including Nicole Kidman, Meryl Streep, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kate Winslet, Cate Blanchett, Anna Paquin, Renee Zelwegger, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Judi Dench, and Penelope Cruz.
Ralph L

Einstein's old haunt
True.

MM, years ago I read somewhere credible that women do better at STEM as their estrogen levels decline (in their 30's, it said) and their existing testosterone asserts itself.

Helps their ability to orgasm, too (which mass culture confuses with the interest level/desire in sex). That's what's meant by men hitting their peak at 18 (and their legs are hairiest). You don't need to verify all that if you don't want to.

Extraneus

About that, Insty asks?

Has Jimmy Kimmel said anything?
sbw

It changes the very meaning of what the equals sign means in mathematics.

That’s a little hyperbolic. A is equivalent to B means A can be morphed into B in a graph theoretic or topological way.

There are differences between A and B, but the viewer is checking only certain relationships.

Still cool. And I could neither understand nor do it. But I did worth with graph theory in APL at a Holiday Inn one night in the 1970s.

Dave (in MA)

I've been in software for over 30 years and the equals sign has meant the same thing the whole time. Maybe I need to upgrade my compilers.

Ralph L

I had a really good public 6th grade teacher in an intelligent class. 7th grade was boring except for the frog dissection, and somewhat chaotic, so my parents put me in private school (Danube's old school).

Porchlight

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Monty Hall problem.

lyle

Some equal sign are more equal than others? 😎

rse

Ralph-you went to st stephens too?

Extraneus

Here he is talking about different concepts of equality.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Ralph L.,,

While I won't address most of your comment, I went back to college when I was 28. Took math when I was 29.

Extraneus

Mostly men in his audience. Not all, of course, but judging by those men - say at 1:22 or so - who among us thinks that a high percentage of women would want to hang out with these dudes?

(This is my theory about why there aren't as many women in STEM as would otherwise correlate with their IQs, btw.)

The hot ones would rather hang with Harvey Weinstein!

fdcol63

I somehow made a B in college calculus, but I didn’t really understand it then or now. But found trig, algebra, geometry, etc., fairly easy to understand .... and still useful. LOL

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-07/gunman-storms-saudi-royal-palace-killed-after-shootout-guards

Ralph L

rse, indeed I did, long before it combined with St Agnes (a horrible mistake IMO). It's now PC out the wazoo, just like our alma mater.

MM, perhaps you were more motivated.

Clarice Feldman

Both his parents were high level scientists, Terrible that he died so young. Read that he taught himself French just to read a paper he was interested in.

Extraneus

If anyone's clicking that 6:35 link, check out the guy in the upper right after 1:22.

Chick magnets, I tell ya!

henry

I was much better at manipulating symbols in the abstract than relating them to anything.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

henry, Sometimes there is something concrete that works for me.

My proudest moment selling furniture was using the Pythagoreum theorem to figure out how far out a corner cabinet would extend from the corner.

I amazed my customer and myself, as it came from the deep recesses of my brain where my sophomore high school geometry was located. I was in my late 40's when I did that.

Catsmeat

I was philosophically opposed to calculus--approaching infinity, my ass! I do understand that it's real and it works, which I find galling. Poor Leibniz! Someday I'll tell you the Condorcet story. I did okay in college calculus given that I only went to class about one-fifth of the time (my usual at Yale, where in English classes all you needed was a boffo grade on your papers and exams, which I could readily earn). It's good to know that I went in the right way!

Dave (in MA)

I guess there are different equals signs after all: = ₌ ⁼ ͇ .


And it never occurred to me before that you can't italicize an equal sign.

fdcol63

My wife still has a problem understanding “infinity + 1”. LOL

henry

Miss M, some bits made sense later when I went back to school. The Psychmetrics part of the PhD program was easy, I still looked at equations as curves (folded n-space) so the mechanics of the formulas were like folding a towel (not the fitted sheets my colleagues faced).

Clarice Feldman

Porchlight--that's two of us on the Monty Hall problem.

Threadkiller

According to the afterbirthers and Mark Levin:

Dual citizens ≠ 14th amendment citizens

Dual citizens = Natural born citizens

14th amendment citizens = Natural born citizens

#ECL Math

Miss Marple the Deplorable

henry,

Mobius strips! Taught those to my kids when they were small. Made a dandy show-and-tell item.

henry

Möbius strips are fun!

henry

Autospell put the doohickey on the "o"

I'm not like that.

Threadkiller
Police found a note in the hotel room of Stephen Paddock, the gunman behind the mass shooting in Las Vegas, that had hand-written calculations about where he needed to aim to kill as many people as possible.

In an interview that will be aired Sunday on CBS's "60 Minutes," Officer Dave Newton from the Las Vegas Police Department's K-9 unit said he noticed a note on the shooter's bedside table after officers entered the room. The note was next to one of the windows that Paddock smashed with a hammer to clear an opening to fire into the crowd from his 32nd-floor hotel suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

I could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what his bullet was gonna be for for the crowd," Newton said. "So he had had that written down and figured out so he would know where to shoot to hit his targets from there.

"http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-calculated-where-to-shoot-to-kill-maximum-number-of-people/article/2636860

Threadkiller

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-calculated-where-to-shoot-to-kill-maximum-number-of-people/article/2636860

glasater

You don't need to verify all that if you don't want to.

Heh, Ralph L, I enjoy a challenge.. ;-)

Steno Pool

That Rooskie may know math, but his Powerpoint skills are atrocious.

DebinGA

NYT: Who was Paddock?. New details of his life but still no explanation.

fdcol63

If we thought Western societies were in a population death spiral before now, just wait until all the robot copulating gets into full swing.

Muslims will breed like rabbits in Europe and perhaps here while Wetern men and women diddle their flesh-toned, rubberized and plastic androids.

Or marry their same-sex or transgendered partners.

If they can find the right restroom or use the approved non-cisgendered pronouns.

squaredance

"If we thought Western societies were in a population death spiral before now, just wait until all the robot copulating gets into full swing."

So will we get a "Weinstein AI" out of that? The algorithm is probably not that hard--but the Unit Testing would probably be murder.

(Talk about "Strange Loops".)

Porchlight

Oh, thanks, Clarice. Glad it's not just me.

Jack is Back!

Paddock could have inherited his psychopathy gentically from his father. Latent detonation of the gene. Plus from the Times article he is anal retentive, big time.

Has the autopsy shown any lingering death issues like cancer? Did he just want to go out in a blaze of glory (his idea of glory). Unless they can put an accomplice with him in the room and a conversion to Islam or a phobia about music events, I can't see any reason other than he was nuts.

James D.

even Lanny Davis slithering away?

I didn't think it was possible to be too sleazy for Lanny Davis to cash your retainer check.

Texas Liberty Gal

I loved Algebra when I was a freshman in college-scored 99 & 100 on all my tests. 30 years later subbing for an 8th grade algebra class and I couldn't make head or tails out of it. Sigh

glasater

Having dipped into the gambling world in a very minor way years ago and learning from that experience, there's no way Paddock won/made a bunch of money in that venue.

And if he did there's a heck of a paper trail leading right to the IRS. Every big win and even minor ones are reported.

And you don't 'win' at video poker, ever.

Dave (in MA)

The Monty Hall Problem is pretty straightforward. If you pick the wrong door, you get a donkey in a straw hat.

James D.

Porch, Clarice, here's the answer that made sense to me for Monty Hall.

Imagine its not 3 doors, but a thousand. So you pick one, and there's a 1 in 1,000 chance you randomly picked the winning door. Then 998 losing doors are removed, leaving you with just two:

The original one you picked, which you know had a 1 in 1,000 chance of being the right choice, and

A second door, which you know has a 1 in 2 chance of being right, because all the losing doors but one were thrown away.


Jack is Back!

porch and clarice,

You had a 1 in 3 chance to pick the right door to begin with. Now that that you know you didn't pick the WRONG door, you have a 50/50 but actually your first choice has a 66.6% chance of being correct if you stick with it. You change it and you are now at lower odds. I can formulaize for you but I would need a white board:)

In other words starting at 33.3%, you didn't pick wrong, so you get credit for that with another 33.3% added on. I know its voodoo science but it works.

Jack is Back!

The 'Bama-Texas A&M game is interesting. Although 'Bama is ahead 10-3 and Herts is deceptively quick and evasive, the Aggies are staying in it with a lot of bad breaks.

I think Beasts is swallowing his wine a lot harder in this game than others. Probably a 2 bottle night for him.

daddy


'I can't go forward: Mika Brzezinski says she's pulling out of her Weinstein book deal unless Harvey resigns

My Question: What did Mika know and when did Mika know it?

Porchlight

But your chances were always 1 in 2, because the host is always going to eliminate one choice for you by revealing a goat.

All that's left after that is goat and car. Therefore switching or staying gives you equal odds of getting the car.

fdcol63

JiB, I agree that he sounds like he was very anal retentive.

But this really conflicts with the way he haphazardly placed his weapons around the suite in Vegas, according to the photos we’ve seen so far.

Hard to believe that someone as OCD as he was, who did all that planning, and who went so far as to have calculations on a paper to figure out the best angle to use to maximize body count would not have had all his weapons locked and loaded and lined up at each of his firing positions.

Do we really believe he just tossed them aside willy-nilly after using them? Had they even been used?

This story is just weird as it is.

squaredance

And I refuse to have the NYT tell me "who" Paddock was.

Again, the "Crazed Lone Wolf" meme is risible here. We are getting nothing near the truth, and what we are getting does not add up (and, no, "Townhall" and the like have not explained it away, not by half.)

I doubt we will ever get to the truth of it. Was there ever a more obvious (and sloppy) false flag than this? Just look at who the victims are. What we are hearing is just ridiculous. If the defense attorneys of a common criminal tried this sort of nonsense they would get laughed out of court.

(And I find it hard to believe that he was up there calculating ballistic trajectory to account for down shoot. Really? With a "shoulder bumper"? This is the sort of thing pros do. Are the ballistic coefficients of his ammo and platforms in the calculations? Adjust for that short of a range? Where did he practice his "computation?" What were his "formulae"? Sounds like total BS to me. Someone that precise and professional, who has never ever showed this sort of capacity before, and how is also psychotic and under pressure? Doubtful)


I doubt we will never know, but just watch as they go after rights and force divisions in Trump's base over these usurpations. Remember just why they want those guns: To enslave or murder you and yours. Period.

Once they get them, that it. It will make the Russian or Chinese Revolutions look like picnics.

(And it is simply amazing that rights cherished for generations can be swept away by "incidents" like this and the attendant media frenzy. It shows how foolish we have become. Watch the GOPe have a field day with this. I can hear Ryan now.)

Threadkiller

(And I find it hard to believe that he was up there calculating ballistic trajectory to account for down shoot. Really? With a "shoulder bumper"? This is the sort of thing pros do. Are the ballistic coefficients of his ammo and platforms in the calculations? Adjust for that short of a range? Where did he practice his "computation?" What were his "formulae"? Sounds like total BS to me. Someone that precise and professional, who has never ever showed this sort of capacity before, and how is also psychotic and under pressure? Doubtful)

Yep. If he had calcs it would be for a single target, not a football field of random targets, IMO.

Clarice Feldman

I'm not inclined toward elaborate theories--to me, sometimes crazy is just crazy.

Threadkiller

(And I find it hard to believe that he was up there calculating ballistic trajectory to account for down shoot. Really? With a "shoulder bumper"? This is the sort of thing pros do. Are the ballistic coefficients of his ammo and platforms in the calculations? Adjust for that short of a range? Where did he practice his "computation?" What were his "formulae"? Sounds like total BS to me. Someone that precise and professional, who has never ever showed this sort of capacity before, and how is also psychotic and under pressure? Doubtful)

Yep. If he had calcs it would have been for a single target, not a football field full of 22,000 random targets IMO.

Jack is Back!

Porch,

You know how they worked the doors, right? If you picked door 1, they made sure not to put the goat there. Lots of shifting and placing behind those doors until Monty said lets open door 3 first and lo and behold a goat. There was nothing there to begin with until you picked door 1.

When you consider that then it is really up to the show if you picked the right door.

I don't agree with all the CW that you should change your initial pick since its not up to you the contestant but the producers and sponsors whether you win the car.

Threadkiller

sometimes crazy is just crazy.

From the undersheriff:

Unlike the investigations that follow many mass shootings, a study of Paddock’s computers, political affiliations, behaviors and finances has not uncovered any clear motive for the attack

Just like everything else debunked, they found no crazy here.


Clarice Feldman

Well, that makes more sense to me JIB than all the fancy talk about 1k doors and such.

lyle

I understood there would be no math at JOM...

lyle

Dux of Or EE Gone win Hideous Uniforms Award. Again.

Jack is Back!

lyle,

You are doing a blind wine tasting. 3 bottles. One is the equivalent of Thunderbird, another the equivalent of Mogen David, the 3rd is a 1966 Chateu Petreus.

You get one choice. Enjoy:)

squaredance

Those sort of computations are for long range shooting, BTW, and they require a consistent and detailed working out of the ammo and platform to get a dependable ballistic coefficient across rounds. Some pro long range shooters spend much time "developing a round" to get this and this included all sort of variables (case, bullet, ammo, platform, etc), and the "calculations have to be empirically validated.

Some lower lever shooter--say lower lever military snipers who do not shoot and extended ranges like DMR or a standard company mid range sniper--do not do this but rely on consistent stand rounds (and are careful to test batches). In any case, It all take much work and practice and is a very specialized skill that takes years to acquire.

At shorter ranges, this is not really necessary to calculate at all because the shooter is not at the "edge" of the ballistic coefficient of the round (were it "drops" trajectory and/or goes sub-sonic). Adjusting for that target after a round or two is enough, particularly if you are using automatic fire. Do you think machine gunners calculate rounds inside their effective range? Worse case, Adjust your signs--but here again, sights are next to useless with this shoulder bumper.

The whole this sound specious to me. Total BS to fool the sheep.

Threadkiller

Do you think machine gunners calculate rounds inside their effective range? Worse case, Adjust your signs--but here again, sights are next to useless with this shoulder bumper.

And multiple weapon swapping.

squaredance

say lower lever military snipers who do not shoot and extended ranges=say lower leveL military snipers who do not shoot AT extended ranges

Miss Marple the Deplorable

0Hour is looking to see if there are unsolved murders in the areas the guy lived in prior to winding up at his last domicile.

He is wondering if the guy was a serial killer who decided to go out with a huge finish.

I have no preference in theories and am not recommending this theory, either. However, Ted Bundy operated for a long time without detection, so it's not without precedent.

The hard part of this is that our brains demand an explanation, so much so that we see patterns in everything. I think that must be one of the hardest things about being a detective: not getting committed to one explanation over all other possibilities.

Jack is Back!

Playing basketball already at U. of Buffalo. Western Michigan wins 71-68 Actually, it was football.

squaredance

And those calculation even have to take into effect the type of scope you are using (and they are useless with out a scope, and by scope I do not mean a "red dot indicator", I mean a telescoping scope where the altitude and windage can be adjusted. That is what the computations are for.

you cannot adjust angle precisely with iron sights, at least not modern ones on the platforms he was using.

Again, total BS that does not past even a simple evaluation. Just nonsense to confuse the public.

lyle

Never heard of Chateau Petreus, Jack...😎🍷

Captain Hate

Low IQ Meeka (notice that Zbig's dim bulb little girl didn't argue with that characterization by DJT; just that she'd had some cosmetic work done) won't be killing any trees on her quick-to-the-remainder-table scribblings about wrecking the intern killer's marriage and who knows what other topics upon which she's an authority.

Is this what passes for big news in the modern publishing world?

DebinGA

"He was the king of microagression" says Eric Paddock of his brother. I think the attention-loving Eric is another twig off the wacko tree.

Captain Hate

JiB, wasn't that a seven overtime game?

Captain Hate

Eric Paddock sounds as dumb as a stump. No wonder the MFM loves him.

rse

SQ-one point you left out is just what a specialty shooting from heights is. A super well trained elite level with be able to do either and then combine, which is much harder.

Captain Hate

Tonight's craft beer:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3818/99558/

rich

that looks like a slow sipper Captain Hate. I think you linked their Pumking the other day as well.

did you get a growler at a restaurant or pick some up at a store?

Porchlight

JiB, not according to the assumptions in every description of the Monty Hall problem that I've read. We are to assume no manipulation after the goats, car and doors are initially arranged.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem

It is a theoretical probability puzzle based on the show.

rich

oh the Nats won with a 5 run 8th ... turned the game off in the 5th.

Captain Hate

Got a bomber at the local suds shop, rich. I usually only fill up the growler when I've got company coming over although the local grocery store has the cold coffee press Pumking on tap for fills.

Go Nats!

DebinGA

Playing "Where's Sheriff Lombardo?" and didn't find him in new Reuters piece. The Under Sheriff was sent in two days ago, and Lombardo appears to be MIA. My guess is he's gagged and hogtied to prevent his escape.

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