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October 20, 2017

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cathyf

first?

I'll repost what I just posted at the end of the last thread:

1.8M of us among the 325M in the country are now paying 70% of income taxes paid to the Federal Government, vs 0% (rounding) from half of the 325M? You all know where I think THAT will end up.
OL, I'm going to call bullshit here. Sure, half of the people in the US are paying taxes that don't go by the name "income" tax. This is the typical class-warfare, divide-and-conquer bullshit that allows the swamp to get the votes to rule us.

Whether it's "income" tax or "capital gains" tax or "self-employment" tax or "excise" tax or "sales" tax or "property tax" or "Obamacare penalty" tax or "tax-free municipal bond discount" tax or whatever tax, it's ALL TAXES. Fundamental characteristic of money is that it's fungible -- just because you give different names to the taxes that poor people and lower-middle-class people pay doesn't mean that they aren't paying taxes.

Nattering on about how poor people should pay more taxes and you should pay less is just adding to the "tax cuts for the rich" trope that the progressives use to divide us. No, "making America great again" is NOT about raising taxes on poor people.

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212168133412719&set=a.3440243518999.2134868.1057875209&type=3&theater

anyone on twitter able to verify this?

Wictor posted it, but I have serious doubts about it.

maryrose

Cathy:
You raise some good points wrt taxes.
Everyone should pay something.
Free handouts are bankrupting us and there is now a race to get on the dole.We have all kinds of stores with help wanted signs in the windows.
People need to make the effort to get jobs.
The top group should not be carrying everyone on their back.

daddy on iPad

And Now they are asking about Niger

What difference at this point does it matter?

Extraneus

From the last thread:

I find the whole idea of bringing criminal charges against someone as a form of punishment in and of itself--just to bankrupt them or embarrass them or smear them in the court of public opinion--to be rather reprehensible.

I disagree. The main purpose of punishing the guilty is to dissuade others from committing the same crimes. Take Lerner, for example. Allowing her to skate just because a DC jury might not convict makes it almost inevitable that others like her will do as much or worse in the future. Even if they can't get the big fish, it's worthwhile to prosecute the smaller ones just to scare the shit out of the rest when they see their own kind bankrupted if not thrown in jail. And when they see the higher-ups skate, and their own kind destroyed, maybe they won't be such willing accomplices next time.

Old Lurker

BS right back at you Cathy. Your 4:47 is pure left wing crap and you know it. You are way too smart not to have read all the studies which layer on all the taxes by all their names and at all levels of all government which arrive at the same place, even if the numbers are not as skewed as they are just for "income taxes". But if we are going to debate changes to the INCOME TAX, can we ignore the taxes you pay on pop or booze or lottery winnings, please?

henry

Flat rate taxes are fair, everyone pays the same. Income tax is not flat rate. I pay it on my salary. My company pays it on profits. Then I pay more if I want to access those profits via income tax on dividends. So I pay a graduated tax at least twice on most of my income. Plus I pay all those other taxes too. (Not to mention the taxes I pay for the privilege of paying wages to my employees).

Poor (the 324 million that pay no income tax) get a income tax rebate -- free money -- to cover those other taxes. Look up earned income tax credit and stuff your class warfare where the sun don't shine.

daddy on iPad

I see that from looking at Drudge’s home page there is not one signal headline mentioning the FBI Informant in the Uranium-1 Case, and of the 68 stories Drudge does links only 2 mention the Russian Collusion story that 48 hours ago Trump called the greatest story of Russian Collusion of the decade.

Looks like Niger-Gate and Cowgirl-Gate accomplished their purpose of knocking real honest to god corruption of the front pages.

Old Lurker

Anyway, Cathy, in your bullshit rant, you know that you invented out of thin air the desire to make poor people pay more, right. That was nowhere in the Walter Williams paper nor in my summary of it. You triggered that on your own.

Any time you want to poke holes in the sevenfold increase in federal spending per capita in constant dollars since the 1940's, have at it.

Porchlight

daddy, it looks like that, but I'm not sure those stories would ever have reached the front pages absent Cowgirl and Niger.

maryrose

Daddy:
Fox and Fox Business are covering it but msm have their marching orders.
When it explodes they will have to cover it and believe that will be sooner rather than later.
Next week we should have more news on Menendez another uncovered story that we have to search for information on.
OL:
My deadline for exposure of the unmaskings expired today.
I gave them 2 months to have done something about it.
This is door number 1 all the way and I am disappointed more progress hasn't been made.
Dossier guys from Fusion take the 5th and we are back in Lois Lerner territory.

maryrose

I also want Awan and DWS to be sweating bullets at this juncture.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Extraneus,

The term is lawfare, and I am in the camp that it has to be stopped, but I am also against unilateral disarmament.

This is what the environmental groups do to stop development and how the liberals have brought lawsuit after lawsuit against voting rights, police departments, etc. in order to justify their claims of victimhood.

I personal think we need a revamping of the legal system, but I have no idea how that would be done. Meanwhile, we are sitting ducks for this type of stuff and the only way to fight it is to return tit for tat.

maryrose

Ext:
Totally agree
Deference is obtained when someone goes to jail.

Marlene

The opioid crisis in New England is politicized because Gov.LePage said last year that the drug dealers come from Lawrence and Lowell and New Haven and NYC. The politicians in Mass. and CT defended their drug dealers by yelling racism. It is a devastating crisis in NH and Maine.

Old Lurker

Derwill, previous thread "The consequences to the Trump administration by pursuing Door #2 would paralyze his administration. "

Whereas leaving them all in place to Resist Resist Resist, creating a law firm of anti-Trump big name prosecutors with unlimited budgets and no oversight to attack any friend of POTUS at will by breaking down doors at dawn and molesting a wife in a nightgown, and showing no reason for underlings to change their actions is not paralyzing?

Really?

Captain Hate on the iPhone

So much for this being a smart conservative blog...

Old Lurker

See Maryrose? The only difference between you and me is you gave them two months!

:-)

Old Lurker

Derwill again "OL-if our argument is that to save our country we must re-establish the rule of law, then I don't see how we're going to accomplish that by doing our own warping of the law."

How hard is it to see that I just want people who knowingly break the law for their own gain, to worry about having to answer for that? By your support of invisibility of action against them, if any, to repeat myself, you encourage those who are breaking the law to assume there is no reason not to continue to do so and to get others to do the same.

I never asked that we break laws in the pursuit of law...you made that up just as Cathy made up hers.

Marlene

Hubby just told me that the daughter called him today and said she attended a political fundraiser last night. I won't give too many details except that Guns N' Roses played. She said Axl Rose sucked but Slash was awesome. By the way,the politician is a Republican. :)

DebinGA

Random thoughts from recent comments ...
hyenas - returning from dinner outside Charlotte Wed. night, son in law noted, "There's the neighborhood hyena, who's targeting out pets." No idea how a hyena would end up in a NC suburb.
.................................................
Cowgirl Fredericka - Hubs, president of his county retired educators group, says most black women attending the state convention wear big, conspicuous hats. Cowgirl was a teacher/principal iirc. Plus, big hats often make an appearance in black churches too.

derwill

Ext--I didn't say never prosecute them--just have a provable case before you do so, like actual beyond a reasonable doubt evidence. Maybe I misread him, but OL seemed to be advocating pursuing a criminal trial even without a provable case, because the pursuit of the case itself would bankrupt and ruin them, and send a message to other miscreants and would-be miscreants.

As I just said on the dying thread--If we really believe that we must re-establish the rule of law or the country is doomed, then we can hardly save anything, least of all ourselves, if we're going to turn around and pervert the law for our own ends when given the chance.

And the main purpose of punishing the guilty is to punish the guilty. Dissuading others from committing the same crime is just a useful by-product. And one--to judge by the incarceration rate--isn't all that effective in any event.

I'd be curious to know just how much hard evidence actually exists on Lerner, for instance. I seem to remember that the IRS claimed her emails were "lost". Yes, we all know what she did, but knowing it and having the evidence to prove it don't always co-exist.

Extraneus

Yes, I've been at Gardner's Barbecue in Rocky Mount, NC, on many a Sunday at lunchtime (i.e., after church), and big outfit-matching hats, shiny rhinestone shoes, 3-piece purple suits and even spats made numerous appearances.

DebinGA

It makes me uneasy to hear Wilson mocked for her hat/s, especially if it's a cultural thing that her mostly black constituents would appreciate seeing. Her words offer plenty of ammo for mocking.

Jack is Back!

I hear people on the Ledge arguing with people on the street just trying to get home.

Forget taxes.

Start at the top:

Unmasking “wiretapping of Trump Tower”
Awan and the Dems
NoKo
ACA repeal
Tax Reform (see above)
Iran

Old Lurker

Derwill, yes you did misunderstand me. I did not want a phony prosecution at all. But I don’t want a secret one either.

Porchlight

I would not want Trump to tee up a really really big prosecution and lose. I think that would be the worst of all possible outcomes.

Agree with derwill that this shit takes time. LOTS of time. Lots of trustworthy people working long hours. Easily derailed by invisible swamp monsters. It's not like you can tell who is who.

If mounted, this would be the most difficult and precarious case ever brought in the history of this country. All I ask is that we at least not pretend it would be easy-peasy.

Remember Alger Hiss was a slam dunk with copious and painstakingly documented physical evidence and he still was only convicted of perjury. And that was seventy years ago.

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

http://samuelshats.com/church-hats-history/

https://blackamericaweb.com/2013/02/13/little-known-black-history-fact-church-hats/

http://blackgirllonghair.com/2015/08/3-historical-reasons-why-black-women-wear-elaborate-church-hats/


A brief history of church hats... since Freaky Freddy Cowgirl wears hers to government functions I think she worships at the altar of Big G and I don't mean God.

Old Lurker

As to Lois’ lost emails so she skates....in my business if I “lost” records showing proper treatment of a hazmat, I might escape on the hazmat charge but will hang me for failure to keep records. And when did Lois let a taxpayer skate because he lost the records supporting his claim?

Momto2

Deb - the AA educators and parents that I know do not dress (or act) like that! Might be because I teach in a private school.

Extraneus

I'm feeling strange on this one, derwill, since I don't remember ever not fist-pumping a post of yours before, at least metaphorically, but I think the rule of law is already so perverted that it's just a matter of how best to wage war at this point. Just look at the Supreme Court for what might be the best example. The left has no qualms about bastardizing language, ignoring original intent, or even simply making things up to get their way. They couldn't give the slightest shit about the Constitution or the rule of law.

If we don't use the law to punish the guilty when we have the DoJ, we will lose the war. Obviously, they have no hesitation when it comes to war fighting. Look what they did to Libby, or even the exterminator, Tom Delay. Where's the retribution for that? If it never comes, we're surely screwed.

Punch back twice as hard, the wise man said. They bring a knife, we bring a gun. Seriously, it's long past time for some political blood to flow on their side.

derwill

Think about what kind of ADMISSIBLE evidence would be needed to prove in a court of law that Hillary took a bribe in the Uranium One deal. Are the bribers going to come over from Russia and testify that it was a bribe? Maybe there was evidence in the 33,000 emails, which may or may not still exist somewhere? And if someone were to produce those emails tomorrow how easy would it be to prove that they are the real emails?

My point is that these cases are going to be extremely hard to prove in the best of circumstances, so demanding that the perps be perp walked yesterday is asking for the impossible.

DebinGA

Very enlightening, Stephanie. I imagine black women's struggle with their black hair challenges encouraged "hair covering" additions like hates.

Old Lurker

Porch, you see no middle ground between a really really big prosecution and none at all? Why wait on the small ones easy to prove?

My point remains that at this time none of us knows if anything at all is in the works. That message is in fact a message.

maryrose

Clintons did illegal stuff with Whitewater and had to pay big attorneys fees to defend themselves.
Fortunately they had patsies willing to take the fall for them.
In impeachment they had to spend big bucks and were raked over the coals and Lewinsky story was revealed.
Public humiliation occurred.I want them shunned and reviled as this Uranium situation is explored. I will settle for everyone knowing what lying thieving grifters they are.

Extraneus

And I just remembered what might be the best example, Ted Stevens. Didn't they even get Obamacare passed over that?

henry

Derwill, tell it to the IRS or John Doe victims. (Or Manafort for a less sympathetic example). Did someone wait to build a case against them? Or did they get no knock raids an seizure of assets / records for some DA to manufacture a crime? Where is the manufactured crime in those?

Abiding the law does not protect them, why should breaking the law protect "big names?"

maryrose

Derwill:
Hard to prove but not impossible.
I say go for it just for the perp walk alone.
She can wear her boot on her broken toe or ankle or whatever sob story they go with on the day.

Old Lurker

And Porch, what case are you meaning is the biggest case ever for the country? I didn’t know we had picked the case from the dozens anddozens of possibilities.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Is there a racial preference for giant plastic flowers worn on your suit? Ones big enough to look like a clown squirt flower?

I don't object to her wearing a hat. It is always the same type of hat, two sizes too small, and sparkly (not suitable for daywear).

She's never wearing a cloche, or a Panama, or a turban, or any other type. Just the too-small sparkly cowboy hat.

AND, might I suggest, that wearing a cowboy hat is CULTURAL APPROPRIATION from white and Mexican cattle wranglers of the Southwest?

derwill

--I would not want Trump to tee up a really really big prosecution and lose. I think that would be the worst of all possible outcomes.--

Porch just said in one sentence what I've been trying to convey in multiple points. He's only going to get one chance at this and if he fails it's all over, so he needs to be absolutely dead certain sure he can pull it off.

Admittedly we're all looking at it from the outside, but I don't see him being there yet.

daddy

Henry and other Tech guys. A company Tech support guy led me to this page which as far as we can tell may be the culprit that has caused the failure of my iPad to post pics like normal. If you have a moment can you see if this makes any sense to you guys and if you can figure out how to get my thing to work:

iOS 11's new image format might pose problems for PC users

DebinGA

I will settle for everyone knowing what lying thieving grifters they are

Amen, Maryrose. Let the Great Unmasking begin! The BOzo years facts currently hidden should be declassified as much as possible and made available to the public. Keeping them hidden is why BOzo's papers are going to hidden vaults in a National Archives who knows where rather than his not-a-library.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

What we need with the Clintons is something like when my son's classmate Jamestina crawled up and turned the intercom to "send" when their teacher was ranting and threatening them like a crazy woman.

It got piped into the principal's office while he was meeting with the PTA officers.

The teacher was gone the next morning.

Hillary has to be lured into something like Howard Dean's "Eeeaaaargh!" which horrified even his supporters, as he sounded like a crazy person.

Something like "Eh, those (bad racial epithet for black people) are so damn dumb they will riot if we kill a kid and blame the police, like we did with Trayvon Martin."

THAT is what is needed. What you want is everyone BEGGING for her prosecution.

henry

Daddy, since images linked for display in typepad come from a search I don't see how iOS file formats impact them. If you take a pic with your phone, then put it somewhere links le for display, it sounds like the main sites already convert HEIC to JPEG. However a clunky product like typepad doesn't seem to get updates to support new tech, so if the photo storage you link to stores in HEIC typepad might puke on those forever. Might check the tech specs / FAQ on the photo storage site you link from. See if you can force them into JPEG.

derwill

If I remember right now, the IRS claimed that Lerner's emails were lost in a system crash. Yeah, how convenient. But how to prove otherwise, without some tech turning state's evidence and admitting he was ordered to orchestrate the crash.

maryrose

Derwill:
I see your point and of course conviction would be the best result.
However as time goes by more evidence is destroyed.
If they didn't have Weiner's computer those emails would have been erased with bleach but.
These are lawless people.
Because they have skated before they think they are invincible.
Time for a bright shining light to expose their heinous crimes.

derwill

And yes the law has been perverted by the other side. So what is our goal then--to restore the rule of law and MAGA, or to do what they have done and exact revenge on our political enemies? I suppose if you believe there is no fixing the rule of law then we might as well go for revenge.

Revenge would certainly be easier.

maryrose

Where are the honest tech people?
Pagliano takes the 5th and skates.
It was an illegal server and we are powerless to jail him until he spills the beans,

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

LOL both sides were clamoring for Comey's head on a platter... Trump delivered and he got saddled with Mueller.

I'm all for making the process be the punishment and bankrupting both sides of the aisle. You know if Trump goes for the dems they will out what they have on the reps. Fine. Let those reps get processed, too. One way to clean the swamp is to let it drain itself. I want each and every one of them bankrupted, their families bankrupted, and their children bankrupted. It's not as if DiFi's hub or Chelsea don't have a clue how their family got so wealthy or wealthier. Claw it back!!!!

And while we are at it, make it a felony to not spend 100% of your campaign funds in any given campaign period. And limit donations to PACs and campaigns to 6 months out from the primaries. Level the playing field for the next go round. And it will shut those damn commercials up til then as an added bonus. Limit donations from any source to $2K. Why should PP have a larger voice that Susie Six Pack?

I want those asses to lose their craving for running for office. Make it a duty that is hell to endure. F em all.

Extraneus

You know, it wouldn't be so bad if a DC prosecution failed due to political bias on the part of the jury, as long as the rest of the country saw the evidence and knew who was guilty. I agree there needs to be evidence, but there clearly is plenty or we wouldn't be convinced either.

maryrose

Short term:revenge
Long term:
Fix system
We need some prairie justice and need to bring Hildebeast to her knees to stop this hero worship she enjoys from these looks.

maryrose

Should be kooks.

-peter

please fix that Apple software problem asap, I need to see daddy's pics

daddy

On line with the Level 2 Apple tech guy and he is clueless. We are farting around on the bottom of the previous thread trying to resolve the issue but it ain't working.

maryrose

JIB:
Agree with your priority list.
Tax reform this year so it can be retroactive
Steph:
Excellent post !
Bankruptcy will get their attention.

Extraneus

what is our goal then--to restore the rule of law and MAGA, or to do what they have done and exact revenge on our political enemies?

That's obviously the question we're grappling with. If they can get away with lawfare, and we wouldn't dare try it because it's wrong, we lose. The only way to restore the rule of law is to find a way to convince them of its benefit. Hanging by the neck, for example.

maryrose

Ext:
A few people in jail ought to do it.
When we had white collar crime, a few jail terms shut that right down.

henry

If we simply did 3am no knock raids of Lerner, Clinton, Powers, etc based on warrants (plenty of crimes, so they won't be bs warrants like the John Doe), the public would associate the raidees as criminals. Basic rule of law stuff. Instead we tiptoe around while they erase evidence "like with a cloth"? Preposterous.

Extraneus

Drudge features Silverglate piece about how Mueller tried to entrap him.

Good.

maryrose

Henry:
Amen.
And they are laughing at us for being too afraid to take them down.
That little rat Podesta is s prime example.

Extraneus

No kidding, mr. Shouldn't he be indicted by a Ronnie Earle type, just for fun?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://twitter.com/LarrySabato/status/921447074306109440

Apparently the JFK files have been released. Larry Sabato has provided links to them on this thread. I only clicked on one link to see if it was legit, and appears so.

I wonder if the Reddit guys are on this. It's right up their alley. I think I will go check.

daddy

Thanks Henry at 06:18, but you are talking Greek.

The Apple Tech guy had me reset my network settings and now I cannot get back on WiFi in our House since I don't know the passwords (Momma does) so I am SOL for the time being on my iPad. in 2 hours she should be home and hopefully we will try again then. I had him trying to post the pic on the previous thread I did earlier of Trump and the giggling Maria B in red and that made an impression, but we couldn't get it to work.

I will say how odd it is that now I have dealt with 3 Apple tech guys and none of them appear to be familiar with posting pics or doing links like we guys here at JOM do every day. I don't know if that says something about us or about them:)

Porchlight

And Porch, what case are you meaning is the biggest case ever for the country? I didn’t know we had picked the case from the dozens anddozens of possibilities.

I thought we were talking about the big 'un: prosecuting high-ranking Obama administration officials, including former USAGs, a former SoS/First Lady and maybe even the former POTUS. For various high crimes but it certainly looks like they all participated in some.

That's the big 'un, right?

If that's really on the table, then those cases better be perfect, which again takes time, and is difficult to keep secret, and even then, I think even a moron could understand why Trump would be reluctant to bring them (and I don't want to hear any nonsense about how Trump wants to but Sessions is holding him back).

I don't expect, and neither do I want, any info on whether such cases are being put together. Seems to me that would jeopardize the whole enterprise significantly. I'm fine waiting.


Why wait on the small ones easy to prove?

Why get the tail when you can get the head?

Either way, prosecuting the deep state - small fish or large - is going to mobilize it in a way that we've never seen before. As derwill posted a couple of days ago, that will have immense consequences. Like possibly civil war kinds of consequences.

I don't think the keyboard commandos really want that. I know I don't.

Also, quite obviously, Trump wants to focus on his agenda.

This is so tedious. We've been all around the subject and you still seem to want people to explain their positions an eightieth time.

Stop pushing my buttons and have a cocktail.

henry

It was Bill Clinton's father in the grassy knoll, not Ted Cruz's father. ;)

henry

Daddy, did he say anything about the weather in Bangalore?

Extraneus

Why get the tail when you can get the head?

Because they can more easily be dissuaded from complicity next time, is what I say. And many small fries were needed for the big ones to do their thing. Plus, the little miscreants don't usually have Foundations to pay their legal fees.

Don't serious prosecutors somehow get the little guys to rat out the big ones? How do they do that?

Catsmeat

MM, generally, yes, but according to the Smithsonian, one in four cowboys in the American West was black...

Porchlight

Don't serious prosecutors somehow get the little guys to rat out the big ones? How do they do that?

Among other things, they convince the little guys that the big guys won't shiv them in prison and then kill their wife and family.

Good luck with that if you go after Clinton, Inc. or Obama, Inc.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Couldn't resist bringing this over from the Reddit guys:

https://i.redditmedia.com/5Eh8ZnOus4jYkRVxtqML_xOt9b3wlkzHutvfljW7pMk.jpg?w=617&s=1f8463680b4db723d5e719ddeb42917d

Graphic with a bad word.

daddy

Daddy, did he say anything about the weather in Bangalore?

Henry,

The new official name of Bangalore is Bangaluru. Surprisingly this guy was from Oklahoma. Namaste!

Extraneus

Good luck with that if you go after Clinton, Inc. or Obama, Inc.

Heh. Now we're talking.

So if you're a small fry, about to he destroyed, you have to think to yourself: does Hillary still have the juice? How scared should I be now?

Sessions tells the poor schlub, "As scared as 10 years in the slammer might make you."

And that's after spending his life savings on legal fees.

Does she still have the juice to avoid that? Obama probably does, but does Hillary?

henry

Bangaluru. I’m just getting used to Rhodesia’s new name.

maryrose

Porch: By all means sit back and enjoy a cocktail.
But this is a success story I will tell you about.
Hillary getting caught using an illegal server.
It happened by chance that we found out NYT reported it and it was proven by Benghazi committee which if you remember was vehemently opposed by the the Dems.
Result:
She had to defend it and stayed on the defensive, ripping Matt Lauer a new one for bringing it up again.
I still laugh at her assertion that some of those personal ones which we now know had classified info on them "will remain private"
How dare she do that and say that,
But you see she was emboldened by NO prosecution in the past.
It proved a deciding factor in her loss.
She said too much was made out of her ILLEgal behavior and actions,
She appointed herself judge and jury of her felonies.
This cannot be allowed to happen with the Uranium deal,

maryrose

Comey is now trying to pull the same crap with his memos which are government product.
He allowed her to get away with it so now it is his turn to do illegal stuff and his defense is well Hillary wasn't charged.
That is why Mueller is there :
To pull his rear end out of the fire.

Extraneus

Do we have any Ronnie Earles in the DoJ? Or are those types all Democrats?

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

Oh and a few more things...

If they want to live like the real 1%...

Build them barracks at Joint Base Andrews and take them back and forth to the Capitol daily during their 4 months of mandatory service (June to September) yearly with one weekend pass each month for the duration and they can eat the same damn food the true 1% get at the chow hall.

Once they are elected to office, all investment and cash accounts are frozen except for household expenses that are administered by the IRS and paid on their behalf, and they get an income equal to the top rank pay of a non com officer subject to the same COLA that seniors get for the year.

No alcohol on base and smoking in designated areas only without cover.

Mandatory PE before they leave in the morning (muster is at 6 am) for the Capitol cause we don't want to insure them for any bad lifestyle choices they make. Same insurance as the DOD has and all hospital/doctor involvement as the DOD.

Once they leave office, their accounts are unfrozen and they get invasive annual audits for 5 years to make sure they haven't gotten any delayed payments from any deals they cut while in office.

Let them live like the true 1% do.

Hey at least I didn't subject them to MREs.

maryrose

Ext:
Sadly, I believe they are all Dems.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://deadline.com/2017/10/magnum-pi-reboot-cbs-peter-lenkov-1202192310/

They are desperate to get the viewers back, hence the re-boot. I am disappointed to see Higgins will be cast as a woman.

Extraneus

I hate to post this.

Prosecutors Face Penalty in ’08 Trial of a Senator

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department has found that two prosecutors involved in the botched 2008 corruption trial of Senator Ted Stevens engaged in “reckless professional misconduct,” but it stopped short of firing the men, saying their mistakes were not intentional.

In a cover letter to a 672-page report provided to Congress on Thursday, alongside additional attachments and findings, the Justice Department said the two prosecutors would be suspended without pay — Joseph Bottini for 40 days, and James Goeke for 15 days.

Mr. Stevens, Republican of Alaska, was charged during the Bush administration with failing to report that an oil services firm had remodeled his house. He was convicted just before the 2008 election and lost his seat — briefly giving Democrats a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, which enabled them to pass the health care law.

The NYT piece was from 2012, two years after Stevens was dead. I think it should be allowed for this to make one feel violent.

maryrose

Ext:
The outrage from that enabled us to have 2 Repub senators from Alaska and to make Begich a One termer.
Though Murky as a conservative Repub is a stretch.
Again how dare they do this and get away with a slap on the wrist .

henry

Chisholm is still employed taking taxpayer funds for his criminal abuse of office. Courts protect him. He needs to be tarred, feathered, and run to IL on a rail.

Old Lurker

Nice, Porch.

Eighty times and you still have never explained it or ever even pretended to appreciate why some of us see it differently than you do.

maryrose

Henry:
I believe in karma.
His day of comeuppance is coming.

Michael  (fpa P4F)

OL - Welcome back! I noticed you weren't back yet, but I'm always 'Just Ten Hours' behind, so I never posted a ? re your whereabouts.

Nice to see derwill back, too.

The exchange between you two was quite interesting, with many important points raised on both sides.

Extraneus

"The Police Just F**ked My Life" - Alabamians Outraged As Civil Asset Forfeitures Soar

JimNorCal

daddy, I don't know about you but I upload photos to a site. It does some mumbo jumbo and displays a web address
http://path/photo.jpg

then I copy that link and make a comment on JOM framed like this, only without the spaces:
< img src = " http://path/photo.jpg " >

With my iPad (IOS 10.something) it works.
With my iPhone (IOS 11.something) it displays a box, the web path-address and the trailing " and >

These are just text strings, which suggests to me that the iPhone is not delivering them "as is" to TypePad but is instead doing some interpretation before TypePad gets it. Because TypePad just cares about the text it gets, not which platform delivers it.

Anyway, that's my theory.

Gentlejim

I also want Awan and DWS to be sweating bullets at this juncture.

Posted by: maryrose | October 20, 2017 at 05:20 PM

I prefer that they were catching bullets. No one knows what damage they’ve done to our national security.

Momto2

daddy - once you get your iPad issue all sorted I hope you decide to do a photo-essay for us....maybe this weekend...maybe featuring the Rhinestone Cowgirl? I envision LOTS of available material for that one!

I will say how odd it is that now I have dealt with 3 Apple tech guys and none of them appear to be familiar with posting pics or doing links like we guys here at JOM do every day. I don't know if that says something about us or about them:)

Well, that is surprising! Since they are called "Geniuses" what does that make us?

Old Lurker

Thanks Michael. Derwill and I agree more than it seems in the back and forth. We certainly agree on the misuse of phony prosecution.

henry

Jim, perhaps your site does note create a jpeg, but uses the iOS HEIC or whatever format. You might be able to switch that to jpeg in your settings.

Extraneus

DWS is a good example. Let's say she ends up bankrupted and in jail. Who'll be ready to do the dirty work next time?

On the other hand, what if she skates?

henry

I want the Awans drawn and quartered. But if they deliver DWS and fellow crooks in Congress (whichever party), I can live with 20 years breaking rocks for them.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-wallace-blasts-fnc-colleagues-media-attacks-dont-know-whats-in-their-head/

"Please hire me, CBS."

Porchlight

The NYT piece was from 2012, two years after Stevens was dead. I think it should be allowed for this to make one feel violent.

It certainly makes me feel that way. Not least because Stevens would probably still be alive if he hadn't been unfairly prosecuted. No way to know that, of course.

Old Lurker

Ext, that really is the nub of it. Balancing the public good of a timely application of the law against the risk of losing. That risk will be reduced wiith more time spent preparing the case but only to the point of diminishing returns. But even then there will always be the risk of losing, so if the prosecutor needs certainty, he will never take a case to trial...and then we all lose.

Since there is a certain cost from doing it all in secret, the optimum solution is a moving target.

 narcisoyea

Evening all, like I say the most interesting thing about this is the fact tli's ceos computer was wiped, so who knows where that heu came from.

Yes that is near beer in those files, the most interesting thing was what the late Charles Thomas was forced out of the foreign service for relating iswalds relationship with a Cuban embassy employee in Mexico city.

squaredance

I actually disagree: If you hit enough on the top hard, then the rest will cave. Trump missed an opportunity. if he had put some like Rudy in there and kept up a relentless pace he would have his agenda through congress right now. Enough would be over the fear and on their way to standing by him Put people like Soros and his henchmen in jail and the rest will follow. Remember, with the possible exception of people like Clinton, the real culprits are the people behind these politicians and functionaries. Now is the time to strike. It may be our last chance.

There would be no Civil War. Not at all. They do not have those kinds of bases among the people. If enough vile things come--say things like child trafficking, murder or sale of state secrets--then their support quickly fades away (and I suspect that with current revelations the Clinton Amen Corner of useful idiots is melting away by the hour). What the Deep state has is access to money and the infrastructure of (mostly political) power. They control through mostly fear, fear of physical and spiritual violence. True they will kill and frame, but if this in caught in the open a couple of times and traced back to the power behind it then it goes away too.
If the truth is vile enough they will not even be able to walk the streets.

Clinton inc up on murder charges would wash them all away.

The USSR fell with out civli war. It fell because they had throughly discredited themselves and had lost even the hope of fear or obedience, even in their own Nomenklatura. So it was with Warsaw Pact.

Stick to justice, uphold the truth and the American values we claim to cherish. Do not let fear of these people enter into it. Let the chips fall where they may so that we can openly see in the light of day what so of country we really are. The American people may surprise you.

And I can tell you that the Deep State is fighting about as hard as it can right now, short of dropping nuke on American soil or killing Trump.

Let them fight in the open. Then they will surely lose.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 40m40 minutes ago

Great book just out, "A Place Called Heaven," by Dr. Robert Jeffress - A wonderful man!
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OK. who could have predicted this tweet 5 years ago?

This plays into my theory that Trump had a conversion experience at some point, and that is why Falwell and Jeffress support him. It is why he is injecting references to scripture into some of his speeches. Stranger things have happened. See St. Paul.

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