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October 19, 2017

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maryrose

Ted Cruz is ok in my book.

maryrose

Wake up you guys!
I am first again.

Momto2

I'm here, maryrose - just reading along - nothing to share yet!

JimNorCal

From BeJohnGalt blog, the author believes the "disrespect US soldiers" spin that Appalled was peddling last thread is s desperate Dem attempt to derail the conversations about NFL and Weinstein's Hollywood.

I hadn't seen the full quote earlier.

"The diseased Democrat CongressCreature released just this part:

“They know the risk, they know what they sign up“…and implied that President Trump said it in an offhand, almost dismissive. manner.

THIS is the FULL QUOTE…which even the Democrat CongressCreature has finally owned up to…though she insists it was still intended to be disrespectful:

“They know the risk, they know what they sign up for but they still volunteer to put their lives on the line for their fellow Americans. We owe them a debt that can never be repaid”"

Threadkiller

That brings us to Wednesday. Senator Ben Sasse, a Republican from Nebraska, spilled a soda (it was Dr Pepper) on Mr. Cruz during a Senate hearing. That prompted a playful back-and-forth from the two senators’ Twitter accounts.

Mr. Sasse said that he “was wearing my ‘Lee Harvey Oswald Was Framed’ T-shirt,” a reference to the time President Trump accused Mr. Cruz’s father of associating with the man who assassinated John F. Kennedy.

Then Mr. Cruz — or someone on his staff who runs the Twitter account — responded to the tweet with the Zodiac killer’s note.

#Gay

Threadkiller


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Buckeye

And they say Trump is a Klutz.

 narcisoyea

Thank jimnc, I knew that wasnt the whole story,

What is striking Henry, is this deal with tenex is just the iceberg. Seeing as the CEO of condrey company computer was destroyed, who knows where the heu ended up Algeria, Afghanistan, Yemen?

Buckeye

What does Russia gain by having this Uranium business in the news?

What is their next move?

Do they even have one?

Curious minds want to know:)

JimNorCal

Holy cow. Who knew the Repub Primary scrum was so brutal?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Here is Bush 43 on my Fox feed not helping things by giving his analysis on the situation in the world after keeping his mouth shut for 8 years.

"Our discourse is marked by casual cruelty."

Bah. I want plain talk and not more euphemisms.

Oh, now he's talking about nativism and forgetting the dynamism immigration brings.

Sigh.

henry

Canadian hockey elbow of love.

 narcisoyea

Remember macho grande,

There are some stories that seem to be only taught in fiction. Recall that carjacking of a Saudi prince in Paris some years back, Sean mcfate who alas works for Atlantic council. Came up with a scenario.

Buckeye

Oh, now he's talking about nativism and forgetting the dynamism immigration brings.

And just how much "dynamism" does MS-13 generate?

JimNorCal

You know, when I originally saw this snip in a news article "They know the risk, they know what they sign up" it was jarring. Because it's not a complete sentence, and because the word "for" is natural but missing after "sign up".

What we owe the US military can, indeed, never be repaid.
What we owe Dem office holders, well, let's not go there.

matt, deplore me if you must

Mr. Bush;

No one is against immigration. We are against illegal immigration, you fool.

Signed;

America

maryrose

Excellent speech by President Bush.
Ted Cruz and Ben Sasse both have a good sense of humor.
We can always use more laughter in our lives and less derision and pessimism.

Appalled

JNC:

Where is the full quote you cite being reported, other than facebook sites. I googled it and don't see it appearing anywhere (like the White House website, Fox News, or Breitbart)

henry

how cute. appalled expects facts to be reported when they disagree with narrative. look under the media pillow.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

maryrose,

That was not a helpful speech. It will further empower the anti-Trump people in Congress and was a veiled swipe at President Trump's agenda.

GUS

Here's why I'm VERY skeptical.
Who is investigating Russia?
Who had their phones tapped?
Who have the MARXISTS been screaming about impeaching for 49 weeks?
Who gave a NONSENICAL made up MEMO to a LIBTARD COLUMBIA law professor to leak.
Who has been investigating this MADE UP BULLSHIT of a year now.

And we've got GRASSLEY????

The CIA, DEEP STATE, RICE, POWER, FBI, Former FBI DIRECTOR, the entire F@#KING MFM.

We've got GRASSLEY???

Who investigates the INVESTIGATORS???

GRASSLEY????

Pffffffffffft

Appalled

henry:

I expect there to be a primary source. (You know, like the White House or, since the story is that the Congresswoman is admitting this is correct, the Congresswoman's office) I checked the blog jnc quoted -- guess what, no citation as to where the blogger got it.

All google gave me were facebook sites, and the facebook stuff did not cite where the quote came from.

Jack is Back!

As I noted on the other thread, only a idiotic, shameless, democrat like Fredericka Wilson could think what Trump said was disrespectful when in fact, to this veteran, it was highly appropriate to applaud the soldier's duty, honor, country commitment.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-19/trump-picks-lawyer-simons-to-lead-ftc-amid-equifax-breach-probe

Threadkiller

Ben Sasse's comedic material:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

Ted Cruz'z comedic material:

http://www.zodiackiller.com/Victims.html

And it all stemmed from a playful fluid swapping during a hearing where Sessions was testifying and being painted as an idiot by more serious democrats.

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

Brought over from the last thread. :)

A the $25K check was written. Saw a story somewhere last night that there was likely more than one check for several families that were being written and they have gone out.

B. The full quote of the BS the all hat no cattle bitch excerpted from IS what Trump is steamed over.

As usual you are following the main stream bouncing ball that is woefully behind the story (as usual) and that is also playing hide the truth by now refusing to update their pull quotes and letting them be passed around as the full context - they are NOT.

I guess for Appalled, if the media doesn't report it, it didn't happen. He must think Hill (and the rest) are as pure as the driven snow re Russia. They ain't reported on it, it didn't happen. Pfft.

exdemocrat

The CFIUS, originally created by executive order, is codfied in the FINSA of 2007.
Again according to Wikipedia, its key provisions are as follows:

• The bill establishes the membership of CFIUS by statute, and creates a defined role for the Director of National Intelligence as an ex officio member who must evaluate the transaction’s national security implications.

• On each future transaction, one of the member agencies would play a lead role, in addition to Treasury, depending on the transaction’s subject matter. The lead agency would be responsible for negotiating and overseeing mitigation agreements.

• Transactions that involve foreign governments, a threat to national security, or control of critical infrastructure must be subject to a 45-day formal investigation, except that exceptions are possible for foreign government transactions if the Secretary or Deputy Secretary of Treasury and the lead agency certify that there is no national security threat.

• The bill requires sign-off at the assistant secretary level (or above) that a transaction does not fall into one of these categories and need not go beyond the 30-day review period. Similar sign-off is required at the close of the 45-day investigation period to confirm that the transaction does not threaten national security.

• CFIUS must report to Congress at the end of reviews and formal investigations. The bill also requires annual reports to Congress on the activities of CFIUS.

• The bill provides explicit authority to CFIUS to require mitigation agreements.

• Among the factors CFIUS must consider in its review are the impact of the transaction on critical infrastructure, broadly defined, as well as energy assets and critical technologies. In the case of foreign-government transactions, CFIUS must also consider the relevant country’s compliance with US and multilateral counter-terrorism, non-proliferation, and export control regimes.

• The bill creates specific authority for CFIUS to enforce mitigation agreements. Further, it explicitly establishes CFIUS’s “evergreen” authority to reopen a transaction that has been approved if there has been an intentional breach, and no other remedies will suffice.

Clapper, Clinton, Obama.

henry

exdem... as if Obama followed laws. Lawyers can be so silly at times.

maryrose

Appalled:
Try to keep up sir.
The coffee is on and you really will get the truth if you turn MessNBC off.
Sasse and Cruz gave me a big laugh for the day.
President USB in my opinion is not sniping at President Trump.
He is presenting his view of the world as he sees it.
He is a respectable,kind giving individual who supports the Wounded Warriors.
He had a good presidency which I supported.
I think all my fire will be directed at the Dems who seem to be floundering big time as the truth comes crashing down on them.

maryrose

Should be Bush.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

Seems to me the only thing the country should be talking about is Mueller.

JimNorCal

Appalled, you are correct that he did not provide a source.
I'll ask, and report back.

Dave (in MA)

GUS, it seems that Mueller has as much Clinton all over him as Monica.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

The bill creates specific authority for graft and favor dispensing.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997756/Bush-throws-shade-Trump-bullying-prejudice.html

Martosko and the Daily Mail saw that speech the way I did.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

When did GWB open his whore mouth from 2009-2016?

maryrose

Per Appalled:
"Direct tie hasn't been proven yet"
And you would know that how?
Occam's razor says Clintons guilty as sin.
Even though f computer info was wiped clean,emails again will do the Clintons in.
None of us know at this time what information is being held confidential and kept from the public.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Captain Hate,

Not once. He made an appearance in Indy which I attended but he wouldn't discuss anything of importance. It was a fund-raiser for somoe group I think religious, and he just talked about general faith and such.

Not one word. Nothing.

maryrose

I saw the speech differently and in my opinion PRESIDENT Bush just speaks the truth as he sees it and not with a (w) mouth

exdemocrat

some background on the Uranium One scandal:

https://web.archive.org/web/20171019153343/http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html">https://web.archive.org/web/20171019153343/http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html

maryrose

Jane:
Agreed
Less tilting at windmills and more focus on Mueller, Clapper, Lynch,Holder,Clintons, Rice,Power ,Rhoades you know the liars and thieves of Odummy's administration.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

You absolutely MUST read this review of Sally Quinn's memoir. I am not kidding!

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-ruling-classless/

GUS

Yes, Dave, it would appear Mueller is CLINTON'S C#$K HOLSTER.
heh heh
Rodham's c#$ck holster too.

Appalled, please do your own research. Just because you haven't heard it on YOUR FAVORITE sites, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

maryrose

Sessions did fine and didn't give the dumb Dems any info even though they whined about executive privledge and stamped their feet in frustration like Al Frankenstein did.

Captain Hate

That Sally Quinn review is hilarious and certainly more entertaining than the Repuke cheerleading that lessens the credibility of this site.

Neo

St. Maarten airport re-opened to commercial operations on October 10, following the devastation caused by hurricanes Irma and Maria, but airport officials say that repairs are still underway.

Meanwhile, on Barbuda, repairs to Codrington airport have been hampered by the presence of feral donkeys. British charity The Donkey Sanctuary has flown in an emergency team to help locals deal with the animals.

maryrose

Lessens credibility in your opinion CH.
I didn't realize a certain party line was required to post here.

Extraneus

We all know he didn't care about national security, but why would Obama allow the Clintons to enrich themselves at his own potential expense? Did he make any money on the uranium deal? Holder? Clapper?

I know Holder got his start under Clinton, but I don't understand why they would all roll over for Rosatom just so Bill and Hill could get $150M in Russian money.

Has anyone suggested a plausible motivation?

Threadkiller

Highlights per The WaPo:


Speaking at a George W. Bush Institute event in New York, Bush didn't use Trump's name, but his target became clearer as the speech progressed. Here's a sampling:

“Bigotry seems emboldened. Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.”

“We’ve seen nationalism distorted into nativism.”

“We’ve seen our discourse degraded by casual cruelty. ... Argument turns too easily into animosity.”

“It means that bigotry and white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed, and it means the very identity of our nation depends on passing along civic ideals.”

“Bullying and prejudice in our public life … provides permission for cruelty and bigotry.”

“The only way to pass along civic values is to live up to them.”

Sounds pretty cheerful.

Using the tried and true argument that when Trump speaks about something that isn't what the country should be talking about(Mueller), he is the cause of the distractions that get printed in leftest rags, does Bush get the same admonishing?

maryrose

Sally Quinn is a nonentity and not relevant to the current concerns we have for justice during this administration.
A flaky fluff chick who is goofy and given way too much credit.Morally bankrupt going after a married man with no scruples whatsoever in that Dem quest for power that permeates everything she does.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Captain Hate,

I cannot express how much I feel betrayed and denigrated by that speech by former President Bush.

I lost 10 pounds the month of the Florida recouunt. I stood on the steps of the state capitol building demonstrating for the election to be accepted. I supported him through the attacks by Bill Kristol, the nastiness of the Jeffords Jump, and 9/11.

I was porud of him when we went into Afghanistan. I stood up for him against John Kerry's attackks in 2004. I was as loyal a Bushie as one could hope for.

But he abandoned us when Obama was elected, went back to Texas, and devoted himself to the Wounded Warriors, an admirable but uncontroversial project.

Not once did he defend us. He didn't speak out when the police were attacked. He didin't speak out when we withdrew precipitously from Iraq. He didn't defend Romney during his campaign. Never said a damn word about the anti-religious sentiment the democrats pushed. Nothing.

NOW he surfaces to tell us how HE thinks we should be doing. Well, no thanks. We are in this world which is partially of his making, and I would bet cash money he has not even offered advice to president trump privately.

I am just infuriated. And I am not deserting Trump!

Threadkiller

I thought you blocked me, maryrose?

Do you wish to do battle over my Sessions comment? I can oblige.

Before I fully engage you in epic beatdown style, maybe we can clear up why you are so proactive.

That might be helpful.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

maryrose,

Sally Quinn until recently wielded a lot of behind-the-scenes power in Washington. At one point they made her the RELIGION editor of the Washington Post! Someone who believes in voodoo!

I think it good to see what type of person she is, so that she doen't get lioonized by the left.

Threadkiller

proactive = provocative

maryrose

Sounds like President Bush is describing fake news and doesn't mention President Trump by name,so to sensitive souls assumption trumps actual statements.

matt, deplore me if you must

Funny how the Left gets a pass from Bush. They could steal the country right from under him and the rest of the Trilateralists (joking),

Sally Quinn sounds completely deranged. And this is the elite?

Threadkiller

Distractions are in the mind of sensitive souls and shouldn't be considered distractions unless the sensitive soul is bitching about Trump.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I am going to find a transcript of that speech if it's the last thing I do.

maryrose,

I know you feel as a loyal Republican that you feel like we shouldn't criticize members of the party. I simply cannot agree with this thinking, as it allows too much creepy stuff to get done while everyone keeps their mouths shut.

exdemocrat

i couldn't agree more, MM

Appalled

TK:

When did W start talking like me, ;)?

Captain Hate

Bush spent money like the lib he and his whole family are and started digging the financial hole that led to the formation of the Tea Party. The MFM, in their typical dunce mode, tried to act like it was formed because of Zippy and ergo RACISM. Nope, all about the out of control spending started by GWB and the Repuke congress.

Threadkiller

When he took over blowing Obama, Appalled.

exdemocrat

let's hope Quinn and her fellow-traveller Weinstein are cellmates in Hades.

maryrose

MM:
She has been built up by the Left for years and that is nothing new.
Please, it is more of the same b.s. from the rags they call newspapers.
Waste of time in my opinion.

Appalled

I thought that was Harvey Weinstein who was doing that...

Threadkiller

Exactly, CH. And now Bush comes out from the shadows to continue framing the racist scapegoating.

 narcisoyea

That dog whistle was loud enough to break my eardrum.

Threadkiller

Your crowd.

maryrose

Can we please try to elevate the discourse by using normal words instead of crass expressions?

maryrose

We are still a free country able to express our opinions and agree to disagree.

Threadkiller

Ignore the distractions unless they don't elevate the conversation at which point they are no longer distractions.

Jack is Back!

From MM's Commentary link: LOL

Sally Quinn, the well-known Washington journalist, has published a new memoir called Finding Magic. Even for those of us who have followed her nearly 50-year career with unflagging interest, it is full of news.

Ingeniously, Quinn has outfitted the book with a literary device guaranteed to discourage bad reviews. Her fellow scribblers can only kick themselves for not thinking of it first. Quinn begins with a loving portrait of her childhood in Georgia, where the family servants schooled her in voodoo. Her mother was already initiated. When the local vet misdiagnosed the family dachshund, Quinn tells us, Mom lost her temper and cried, “I hope you drop dead!”

“And,” she writes laconically, “he did.”

In the next chapter we learn that 10-year-old Sally came under the care of a doctor who upset her mother. Mom fed him the same line she gave the vet, and “he died shortly thereafter.”

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

Ho leee shit. He went there. He asked the media to cover the story as it is the 'story of the decade' and needs to be covered.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)

Trump mentioned the "Uranium scandal" at the end of his presser - saying it was the scandal of the decade.

Then fire Mueller Mr. President. He's knee deep in it.

Captain Hate

Btw that Sally Quinn review was by Andrew Ferguson, who has written many such takedowns at the WS before.

Jack is Back!

maryrose,

Commentary is not "some rags called newspapers". It is a highly respected Jewish journal of conservative views founded by Norman Podhoretz. Andrew Ferguson is not some hack either but one of the most percecptive journalists and commentators working today.

I was surprised you didn't know that?

maryrose

Jane:
Amen!

henry

Tepid Air Cochran is apparently farther gone to dementia than Pelosi. Sad.

maryrose

JIB:
It may be respected but she and her book have nothing to do with our current situation .
Sally is waiting for her close-up .
More important things happening in the world in my opinion.
Why would you be surprised?

Captain Hate

MeAgain must be getting nervous:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372074

Miss Marple the Deplorable

maryrose,

First of all, the review was funny. There is value in that in and of itself, since we have so much serious stuff happening.

Secondly, Sally Quinn has been untouchable in DC for 50 years. She has run parties and controlled who is "in" and "out" on the social scene.

It is instructive that in all of this time NO ONE in DC ever remarked on her fascination for voodoo, her shameless wrecking of a marriage, her power-wielding, etc.

She is due for a take-down and I am glad the review was written and I am not sorry I posted it.

maryrose

As long as Leahy stays then Cochran should also.
Repubs should have anticipated this and given McDaniel more support.
He will probably ultimately get the seat because he has already got statewide recognition.

Captain Hate

henry, the situation is so severe that AllahPander is being critical of the GOPe. Hmmm, maybe we should go down memory lane and recall which of the posters here, or gone, told all of us conservatives pissed off over the gutter tactics used against McDaniel to suck it up for the greater good...

Jack is Back!

maryrose,

I am only commenting on your unknowlegable comment regarding "some rag". I could give a flying hoot about whether the book is meaningless.

You missed the point.

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

Repubs should have anticipated this and given McDaniel more support.
He will probably ultimately get the seat because he has already got statewide recognition.

a) the reps gave McDaniel zero support and actively sabotaged his campaign. Saw it up close and personal in MS.

b) they have already said they won't support him if he runs again.

c) they have a new guy all lined up for the gov to appoint after the first of the year if Cochran makes it that far. That is to cut off McD running again as he will be running against an incumbent. Haley doesn't like McD as Haley is CoC through and through.

exdemocrat

Maryrose - if you think Quinn "and her book have nothing to do with our current situation", then you don't fully appreciate the nature of the swamp that Potus is intent on draining.

matt, deplore me if you must

It just goes to show how stone cold stupid the WaPo is.

Having a voodoo, crystal, tarot, moonbeam, wiccan as religion editor is bout as crazy as it gets.

That she was also the society editor who took more glee in defenestrating poor rubes from the sticks than Hedda Hopper ever did in her Hollywood takedowns just asserts the impression of complete corruption and Roman level sadism that passes for Washington society.

Class acts? Where?

Clarice, you and the hubby might want to consider leaving town and don't look back whatever you do.

It really is a mix of Sodom, the worst aspects of Rome, and Byzantium, with more than it's its share of eunuchs, soothsayers, and turtle bone casters.

maryrose

Matt:
Good description.

mike in houston

new thread

Ralph L

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read maryrose as dismissing Quinn and WaPo, not Commentary.

maryrose

RalphL
You are correct sir but the temptation to misunderstand is too great.
Sometimes I am not as clear as I could be.
I know Ferguson is a good writer.

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