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December 13, 2017

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Comanche Voter

Ah Maguire--You Magnificent Cynic!

jimmyk

TM is preaching to the choir on this one. I'm guessing almost all of us at least once a day are thankful for Trump for just this reason. Not including "appalled" of course.

Appalled

Jimmyk.

I am thankful Hillary is not president. If she had won, I would have been thankful Trump was not President.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/13/president-trump-speech-on-tax-reform-300pm-est-livestream/#comments

Videos of the speech are on this link. You will have to advance the videos past dead air in some cases. Good speech.

henry

I thought Mrs Sanders was wholly corrupt in her dealings at that college.

cheerleader

When President Trump first supported Luther Strange, he was being pragmatic, in that he thought Strange has a better chance of actually winning.

But many including myself thought we knew better, and wanted more of an ideologically pure moralist conservative.

It shows to go you that the president's political instincts are sharper than a lot of us, and that maybe its a good idea to follow the leader.

20-20 hindsight, that would have resulted in an R win, imo.

 narcisoyea

Its much more likely that mccabe and company have been Co tinning the investigation, much like the former gov of Alaska's chief of staff directed the harassment against the huntress.

anonamom

These are must viewing.
Rosenstein examination

Gowdy:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4699040/trey-gowdy-questions-attorney-general-rod-rosenstein

Jordan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOMGZx22Q70

DeSantis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFZTccXpPrs

UFB.

J

Yes, I am locked and loaded. No games.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

anonamom,

Thanks! Listening to Gowdy now. I didn't have access to that live.

Old Lurker

Narc, on what planet would we expect people at the McCabe/Rosenstein level to not know in detail what the IG is looking at? Rosenstein told Gowdy or Jordan that the IG's office has hundreds of employees and a huge budget. No way in hell these DAGs are getting carted off in handcuffs.

Old Lurker

We were poking fun at those three video's at the end of the other thread.

Don't get your hopes up. This too shall pass.

daddy

Good Morning. Catch up is going to be a bear today.

Lying in bed barely awake listening to Hannity on the radio for the last hour, with his guests Sarah Carter and Victoria Toensing kibitzing comments to Sean after Hannity plays clips of Jim Jordan on fire today going after Rosenstein. I hate Rosenstein's guts.

jimmyk

As was said on the previous thread, those guys like Gowdy and Jordan are all talk and no action. Jordan spends the whole time speechifying, and does nothing to force the question: Will you fire Mueller? If not, why not? Will you appoint a new SC to investigate the FBI? If not, why not?

daddy

...But we do know that the progressive men women who have finally decided to believe Bill's accusers...

At first I thought that was a typo from TM, but on second thought I think he described the critters perfectly.

jimmyk

That Jordan video was 6 1/2 minutes, I'm guessing that Jordan spoke for about 6:20 of it it and Rosenstein for a total of 10 seconds. Jordan would sort of ask a question, but not demand Rosenstein answer it, just go onto the next question. Not acceptable.

 narcisoyea

Well they probably have a Myspace forum, it would seem it was the sheer volume of texts that alerted the ig

Ot the new Christopher reich will be out Jan 28.

daddy

Karl Rove is on FOX praising Mueller's actions. Rove says Mueller acts decisively. Well I want the bastard hung, since he acted decisively when he hired these corrupt goons in the first place, fully knowing how biased the bastards were and that it would automatically bring an unbelievable stench to a supposedly unbiased Investigation.

JimNorCal

Appalled: "I am thankful Hillary is not president. If she had won, I would have been thankful Trump was not President."

Being a relative newcomer, let me ask
1) did you vote 2016? Which candidate?
2) were you able to vote for Obama?

Sincerely asked

Old Lurker

Rove and Fox deserve each other and can DIAF.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

After watching all 3 of the videos, I have to ask what supervision is Rosenstein even giving. He knows almost nothing, what he does know he says he can't talk about, and any actions are going to be done internally.

This is total BS. He's dissembling and stalling. The Congressmen asked some good questions, but they really got no answers. What in the hell is that? Slam him with subpoenas and if necessary contempt charges. The refusal to say anything about the funding is NOT covered by classification rules.

How did we wind up with this holdover as second in command? Why hasn't he been replaced? Is there no one in Justice who could actually supervise Mueller, as opposed to letting him run all over the world grabbing all sorts of unnecessary information? Dop
es Mueller have some hold over Rosenstein?

I know that the Oversight Committee has no real power, but to see that little weasel sitting there just mumbling and filling air time with nothing phrases is just infuriating.

Old Lurker

And just like that, MM starts to get it about Sessions and the of appearance it all.

:-)

Threadkiller

Strange would have lost if the GOP shit on him like they did to Moore.

This has nothing to do with the instincts of Trump, IMO.

daddy

Just caught up to this Miss Marple and endorse your take 100%.

"Andy McCarthy is full of it, and I do not like him. I am tired of him being touted as some sort of legal genius and political savant."

Andrew C. McCarthy‏Verified account @AndrewCMcCarthy
26m26 minutes ago

#Strzok & Page texts look like a big nothing - no hint of corruption in their jobs. Lots of people (me included) speak crudely in private about politics. If you’re ok w/ Trump’s outbursts, I don’t see getting whipped over this BS.

HorseShit, Andy.

For such a supposedly smart guy you are one gullible sunuvabitch. PT Barnum would have the shirt off your back in a New York minute. Geebus, take a month off and read some Mark Twain and educate yourself on human nature, a topic you appear to know absolutely nothing about whatsoever.

Threadkiller

Besides the usually Gowdmouth pontificating, what I noticed was the lack of reporters in that room.

Threadkiller

...usual Gowdmouth...

daddy

Ha! Mike Huckabee just called Strzok and Page "goons."

Great minds!

I smell Andy McCarthy's gullibility like "Dirty Cop" Strzok smells Trump support at a Walmart.

Jack is Back!

As a counterpoint, then there are those among us who believe the Phoenix tarmac meeting was only to get caught up on golf scores and grandkids.

BTW, ESPN just cannot help making snarky Trump remarks while commenting on the Marlins disposal sale. Assholes.

henry

Rosenstein has no sense of staging. His three aides behind him could not. look more guilty if they tried. Although, they looked slightly more guilty than he did. Maybe the rat planned on camouflage to sneak past this one. That sob is in on the coup with Meuller & Comey.

Captain Hate

Strange would have lost if the GOP shit on him like they did to Moore.

Except they wouldn't have because he likes McTurtle. At least we've come a long way since the GOP torpedoed COD in 2010 since nobody questions the existence of the GOPe, only if hanging or Ol' Sparky is the preferred resolution.

Jack is Back!

henry,

Of course he is. Nervous, blinking, scringing the neck, drinking water at every question. Me thinks he knows the gig is up.

daddy,

McCarthy has reeled it all back after listening to the "insurance" conversation.

Threadkiller

I think the Lurch looking knuckledragger to his right was their to shut him up if he told the committee too much, Henry.

daddy

" Anderson Cooper‏Verified account @andersoncooper

just woke up to find out someone gained access to my twitter account.

His boyfriend?

DebinGA

Dem crossovers in open primary states helped McRINO win the nomination. Same strategy that AL Dems used to help get the polarizing Moore on the ticket. Huckabee had to be stopped as his magnanimous response to Katrina evacuees and his genial personality couldn't be allowed to contrast with no claim to fame but an empty suit and "We are the ones we've been waiting for" BOzo.

Captain Hate

BTW, ESPN just cannot help making snarky Trump remarks while commenting on the Marlins disposal sale. Assholes.

You'd think after surviving so many layoffs...

henry

TK, that guy was out of the central casting "thugs, available" catalog.

daddy

McCarthy has reeled it all back after listening to the "insurance" conversation.

Thanks Jack,

So after PT Barnum stole the shirt off his back McCarthy realized he was hoodwinked?

L'il late, Andy.

derwill

The deep state coup and the corruption within the FBI is getting exposed drip by drip.

So who's doing the exposing?

This is no accident. Somebody is behind this, otherwise it all would have stayed deeply buried (which I suspect was Meuller's primary mission--to keep it buried). But it's not safely buried. So again I ask who is doing the exposing?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

OK. after I had my rant, borne of impatience, here is SUndance's take. While that stuff was going on some other interesting information came out in another hearing (I think that's right - can't get video to play):

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/13/and-now-we-know/

He has a series of connect the dots information on the sequence of events. Give it a look as it's interesting.

He thinks Rosenstein is on our side. To me, that would require Rosenstein to be one heck of an actor.

Captain Hate

derwill, there is someone at AoS who has steadfastly maintained that Sessions has quietly orchestrated everything, with which RG and Porch would agree, I'm sure.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Attention! RG's mother Doris has passed away!

https://twitter.com/RattlerGator/status/941057885869625344

henry

McCain at Walter Reed for "normal side effects" of his treatment. There are no good side effects from either glioblastoma or its treatment.

daddy

" Anderson Cooper‏Verified account @andersoncooper

just woke up to find out someone gained access to my twitter account. i have not sent a tweet in days or replied to any tweets. We are looking into how this happened.
5:02 AM - 13 Dec 2017 "

I think that's the same excuse Anthony Weiner used.

Jack is Back!

derwill,

Whoever it is is in deep danger. Like the fight club, you don't talk about it. But there are a lot of patriots of the right kind in the Deep State and me thinks one of them is dropping the dime. Maybe someone who got screwed or disciplined or chewed out by "Andy". That's my guess.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

TheLastRefuge‏ @TheLastRefuge2
44m44 minutes ago

If you're confused @Comey in this. He's the modern version of the Robert-The-Bruce character from the movie Braveheart. He has no allegiances other than to himself. He will betray anyone and only thinks about his position amid any risk. He is the toxic bile that destroyed the FBI

henry

RG, condolences and prayers for your family.

Captain Hate

Condolences to RG's family.

Clarice Feldman

I don't think RG is posting today and may not read this.. If someone here is one of hiw twitter followers, pld send him condolences from all of us.

daddy

The smarter of the 2 FOX redhead Business reporters named Liz is reporting that: Republican Senator John Barrasso is now extending a Uranium-1 probe that involved the Clinton Foundation, after finding out that the Russian owned mining company connected to the Clinton's was able to ship American Uranium outside the United States, despite Clinton's supporters making denials to the contrary.

After the Commercial break a talking head said that Barrasso is pissed off because he has been mislead by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission about this.

Threadkiller

Same strategy that AL Dems used to help get the polarizing Moore on the ticket.

I don't buy this at all. Concerned Ala-blame-ians like Tom W would have been able to shut this down in the Primary very easily.

Not that many people decided that Moore and Strange were runoff material. All the non-nose holders that knew Moore was worse than a late term abortionist didn't make it to the consequential Primary seems more to blame than some alleged crossover voters.


Threadkiller

Condolences, RG.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

daddy,

So we can assume the Nuclear Regulatory Commission is politicized as well? Swell.

daddy

Sine I am so far behind a question: Catherine Herridge on Brett's Show notes this Strzok E-Mail to his girlfriend Lisa Page on August 15, 2016, before the Election but after Trump won the nomination:

Strzok: I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office that there;s no way he gets elected - but I'm afraid we can't take that risk. It's like an Insurance policy in the unlikely even you die before you're 40..."

Is our current belief/understanding here at JOM that this tells us that Lisa Page was in McCabe's Office suggesting, in front of McCabe and Strzok, that they ought to do the illegal Russian Conspiracy thing to take Trump out before the Election, or is it saying that if Trump won then they would initiate the illegal Russian Conspiracy thing as a last resort to take him out after the Election?

Or is there a 3rd interpretation I'm missing?

Captain Hate

I'm sure JiB understood all along that the Uranium 1 deal couldn't have happened without the NRC being aware of it.

Porchlight

When President Trump first supported Luther Strange, he was being pragmatic, in that he thought Strange has a better chance of actually winning.

Let me never be the one to miss an opportunity to sing Donald J. Trump's praises, but I think the primary motive in supporting Strange was that Strange was the incumbent and there was no compelling reason not to support the GOP incumbent. I'm sure Sessions filled him in on Moore and the other candidates and probably advised him on a strategy.

As I said at the time, backing Strange was win-win. If Strange became the nominee, win. If Strange won the general, win. If Moore became the nominee, well, Moore was a reliable vote to MAGA, so a Moore win in the general was obviously a win. If Moore lost the general, well, Trump had backed Strange, didn't he? Must have been a real good reason for that.

The worst case scenario was that Trump would back Strange and then Strange would lose. But even then Trump could say to McConnell: "see Mitch, I did it your way, but the people are tired of the DC swamp." Win.

Trump always owns the downside. But he was never going to back anyone initially other than Strange.

Clarice Feldman

daddy, the converation about the possible election outcomes apparently took place in McCabe's office. It suggests he later was in the plot, but I don't think it's dispositive..yet. McCabe had every reason to fear a Trump victory--like the "campaign contribution" to his wife.

Porchlight

Also add to the above: Strange actually didn't have a better chance of winning the primary. Moore had been consistently beating him in the polls.

daddy

Watching Rosenstein today reciting his mantra: "The IG is looking into that, Congressman," reminds me of this guy:

Captain Hate

I suspect Ol' Yeller will spend a significant portion of his show on McTurtle's perfidy.

Clarice Feldman

daddy, from CTH today: #2) …. And now we know why Andrew McCabe cancelled his scheduled appearance on Capitol Hill yesterday. He didn’t have an “Ohr” problem, he had a larger conspiracy issue that he was likely to be questioned about, and someone tipped him off. After McCabe’s cancellation the IG office distributed the text messages to the full House.

#4) ….And now we know, so far, on the FBI side of the conspiracy, the years-long IG investigation has captured FBI Agent Strzok, FBI Attorney Lisa Page, and FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

Likely the IG has also captured Bill Priestap, head of FBI counterintelligence and FBI Agent Strzok’s boss. Priestap was the guy who Comey blamed for not informing congressional oversight, and Bill Priestap was also the guy who went to the White House present the information against NatSec Advisor Mike Flynn along with Sally Yates (DOJ).

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/13/trump-invites-doug-jones-to-the-white-house/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Extraneus

Is this not a perfect opportunity to fire Rosenstein? And if Rosenstein is fired, guess who's in charge of the Mueller investigation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Brand

Gentlejim

Jimmyk.

I am thankful Hillary is not president. If she had won, I would have been thankful Trump was not President.

Posted by: Appalled | December 13, 2017 at 04:36 PM

Proving once again that there is no functional cerebral cortex. Enjoy blowing around in the wind, tumbleweed.

Captain Hate

Guitarzan: the phony conservative years:

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-congressman-joe-scarborough-backed-judge-roy-moore

daddy

I don't think it's dispositive..yet. McCabe had every reason to fear a Trump victory--like the "campaign contribution" to his wife.

Thanks Clarice. I caught up to this from you on catch-up and it sure explains McCabe's excuse that he missed testifying to Congress yesterday because the dog ate his Calendar:

“Yes, that would be a conspiracy; being discussed in Andrew McCabe’s office. A few weeks later (October 2016), the FBI and DOJ did get the FISA warrant they were discussing in August 2016.

#2) …. And now we know why Andrew McCabe cancelled his scheduled appearance on Capitol Hill yesterday. He didn’t have an “Ohr” problem, he had a larger conspiracy issue that he was likely to be questioned about, and someone tipped him off. After McCabe’s cancellation the IG office distributed the text messages to the full House.”

That makes sense to me.

Captain Hate

Vanderbilt Poofter: Mobile Device genius:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372940

Porchlight

Some quality comments at that Ace link, Cap'n.

Captain Hate

Like this one?

Kirsten Gillibrand running for President? She's not qualified. She's never flunked a bar exam.

Posted by: Kamala Harris, Happy-Go-Lucky Michelle, and DistHillary at December 13, 2017 06:22 PM (j+dfT)

henry

It appears Judge Willett (TX) got confirmed.

henry

Russell Simmons is today's Pervnado winner.

DebinGA

Any suggestion re the best "dossier timeline" online? Anyone remember when and how they nabbed Carter Page? Before or after the successful Oct. FISA application?

 narcisoyea

Prayers for you, rg

Extraneus

What's the best link to explain the corruption in the DoJ and FBI? My niece, who I sat on my knee and explained politics to many moons ago, and who was just sworn into the NY Bar after graduating from an unapologetic Christian law school in Virginia, wasn't aware of the corruption.

What'st the best link she could read?

daddy

FWIW,

Jonah G on the Brett Baire panel says the E-Mails look bad but the dots don't yet connect.

AB Stoddard says she agrees with Jonah. She begins by saying she knows why Mueller transferred Strzok (I personally don't believe we have the full story on that). She says efforts to go after Mueller and take him down are overblown.

Matt Schlapp disagrees with AB Stoddard. Says this is beyond the idea of this just being smoke but no fire. Says this is Nixonian and scary.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

daddy,

I have to admit Sundance's "And now we know" post made me feel better after I ranted.

It's just everything is moving SO slowly.

However, President Trump looked great today in that speech about taxes and was using his kindly grandpa voice and featured a bunch of charming obvious middle class families, including a black pastor who was very complimentary, and lots of cute kids (which goes to my point yesterday about getting children in peoples' minds).

So I feel better and as a bonus, I got all the laundry done!

Captain Hate

Wasn't Russell Simmons already swept away?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

IIum
2m2 minutes ago

EXILE! Pakistan has told at least 10 foreign-funded aid groups to close, including a charity founded by hedge fund billionaire and professional scumbag, George Soros.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-aid/pakistan-orders-george-soros-foundation-other-aid-groups-to-close-idUSKBN1E71N7?utm_source=applenews

Porchlight

I liked this one:

47 I'll be darned, same thing happened to me.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at December 13, 2017 05:01 PM (9tO1t)

Porchlight

Last was to Cap'n re: the Ace link about Anderson Vanderbilt.

Captain Hate

AB Stoddard and Jonah G must have just stared uncomprehendingly at connect the dots books under the Christmas tree. SE Cupp has been a real rocket surgeon lately, too. Maybe her doctor thought she wanted brain reduction surgery.

daddy

Jonah G takes another stab and says again the dots cannot be connected.

Matt Schlapp interrupts and pushes back at whatever Jonah said and says all this has nothing to do with Russian Collusion and the American people know that and are getting pissed because they see that all this has nothing to do with Russian Collusion yet that is all it was supposed to be about.

AB Stoddard plays "Well what if?" What if they find out that maybe Trump somehow may have had something he wanted to hide? What if, etc.

Yawn---That's enough of the panel for me until next year.

 narcisoyea

Its a requirement of working at headline news

Extraneus

This is where my goddaughter went, the significance of which was unbeknownst to anybody!

http://learn.regent.edu/degree-programs/law/

Pat Robertson's legacy.

I went to the graduation and they're Christian legal warriors. Seriously, at the end of the graduation proceedings they invited the graduates to get up and say something if they wanted to. Many did, including numerous blacks who explained their amazement that they were so welcomed. All, black and white, were fully fluent, impressive, and very formidable Christian legal warriors.

Janet 🚬

Extraneus --

Here is a timeline - http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/28/finally-a-definitive-timeline-showing-when-clinton-dnc-started-the-russian-dossier/

 narcisoyea

There's usually a good Hawaii 50 classic operating.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Captain Hate,

The visual in my mind of Jonah G and AB Stoddard staring uncomprehendingly at connect the dots books under the Christmas tree is just one of the best snarks at those two I have ever read.

Plus, it's seasonally appropriate!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2m2 minutes ago

Thank you Omarosa for your service! I wish you continued success.

 narcisoyea

Rug Roh:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372943

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/941094551636156418

Discussion of the dossier being presented as intelligence instead of what it was, opposition research (and with falsified stuff, I would add).

Texas Liberty Gal

Clarice - I follow RG on Twitter and relayed your message to him.

Janet 🚬

Lots of love to RG.

His chosen hymn lyrics make me mindful of this old Dwight L. Moody quote -
"Some day you will read in the papers that D.L. Moody, of East Northfield, is dead. Don't you believe a word of it! At that moment I shall be more alive than I am now. I shall have gone up higher, that is all-out of this old clay tenement into a house that is immortal; a body that death cannot touch, that sin cannot taint, a body fashioned like unto His glorious body."

"this old clay tenement"...I love that.

And this from 2 Corinthians 4:7 - "But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us."

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/13/los-angeles-proposes-vegan-diet-for-homeless-dogs/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

It is a good thing I don't live in California. I would probably get arrested and be in all of the newspapers.

DebinGA

Thanks for that timeline link, Janet. By the time of that August meeting in McCabe's office, the players outed so far were hip-deep in malfeasance.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/12/13/here-is-a-weird-story-about-trump-a-pastor-and-a-spider/?utm_term=.6d1d00f4f1e2&tid=sm_tw

This is sort of amusing, and a big improvement over the stuff the Post usually runs.

Captain Hate

151 148 What in the ever lovin' hell do I have to do to get some action?
Posted by: Mara Liasson at December 13, 2017 06:55 PM (LAe3v)

Shutting your whore mouth might be a good first step. And never do that creepy smile thing.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 13, 2017 07:12 PM (y7DUB)


Even Juan Williams won't look at her when she talks.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2017 07:13 PM (mbhDw)

henry

That timeline was just for the dossier.

Strzok's other activities are missing: clearing Hillary's email system, clearing Weiner's laptop, editing Comey's get out of jail free card for Hillary, working with Mueller and Rosenstein to clear Uranium One for Hillary, possibly punting on the Awans (that would be a counter espionage case).

Tarmac meeting and search for "leaker" thereof is missing.

Non prosecution of Lois Lerner et al is missing.

Holder's gun running is missing.

Lots of corruption for your niece if she looks Ext.

Janet 🚬

This recent Thomas Lifson article is a pretty good overview - http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/12/fusion_gps_dossier_cabal_was_using_spy_tradecraft_to_evade_leaving_electronic_footprints_for_nsa_surveillance.html

henry

The entire unmasking deal is DOJ / govt wide as well. Simply too much corruption to list.

Catsmeat

Gosh, Porch--the Horde is as usual raucous and witty, but the flood of gay jokes--my, the flood! For a bit, I thought I was overhearing the popular guys in the 5th grade rag...and I do think Anderson Cooper is beyond the pale, certainly. Bad guy. But too many proctological jokes.

DebinGA

"June 20: Steele writes first memo of the dossier. It alleges that Trump used prostitutes during a visit to Moscow in 2013 and that the Kremlin was blackmailing him with the evidence. The memo also alleges that the Trump campaign was engaged in a well-orchestrated collusion campaign with Russian operatives."

Wow. Went with the big lies right out of the box. Timeline doesn't mention failed July 2016 FISA attempt, but does say the dossier was in Strzok's hands several weeks after its arrival June 20.

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