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January 02, 2018

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Captain Hate

2018 could be awesome.

lyle

The full moons of '18 certainly have been awesome. Spectacular tonight. Cheers!

henry

Strzok didn’t even take notes. Fascists.

Catsmeat

All is good and round. As one of the public statues in Centennial Park (Nashville, home of the ersatz Parthenon) proclaims, "That which is round can be no rounder." True nuf.

jOr_returns

Trump tweets nuclear threats ... and over at wingnut central we pontificate about "... but her emails!!".

Pedophiles and con-men. Gotta love the GOP.

henry

Those looking for a crime have obstruction of justice at a minimum. Check bank accounts and ratchet from there (ahem McCabe).

Clarice Feldman

strzok shoulda followed Eckenrod's lead and taken inaccurate notes, a summary of an interview which was in fat exculpatory and then retired so no one could cross examine him.

henry

Jor, there is more to diplomacy than torturing your allies with James Taylor. Sometimes an enemy needs a reminder he will be squashed in a nanosecond if he doesn’t shape up. Better move than dumping pallets of cash on his head.

Threadkiller

It smells more like cleo returned.

#FakeJOR?

Catsmeat

Nytol, as it is still crazy cold and I am dancing to Randy Newman... Was unfortunately caught the the 15-year-old singing along to "It's Money that I love," evidentially not true as I am an academic in the humanities. He caught me belting out about "a half pound of cocaine, a 19-year-old girl..."

 narcisoyea

No hes a different nszgul altogether, something hatched on apocalyps

jOr_returns

Henry: Lets get real -- South Korea is about to negotiate on their own. Trump has no diplomacy game -- he's alienated everyone (literally every ally, including the UK). If trump initiated a nuclear war with north korea -- this place would be the first cheerleading it on.

There is nothing Trump can do -- including destroying several major US cities that would cause the wing nuts here to change their mind.

JOM was full of outright pro-pedophile supporters a few weeks ago.

This is what happens when you lose all you become godless heathens.

Catsmeat

I think we have a problem, Houston.

Rocco

I like Matt's suggestion at the end of the last thread. Hit them with RICO and take away everything they own, their homes, cars, boats, pensions and book deals. There's only one way the FBI can earn back any respect at all and that's to make those at the top responsible pay dearly for their crimes.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

The United States has tried to get North Korea to negotiate with South Korea for decades. If you ask me, this offer from North Korea is an accomplishment.

Allies not alienated:

Israel
Saudi Arabia
Iraq
Poland
Hungary
Jordan
Austria
etc.


Best president in my lifetime, and I will be 70 this year.

And as far as the whining and criticism of the left: DO NOT CARE. They are stupid, anti-American, and criminal.

I am listening to the evidence on Hannity right now. Hillary will go to jail.

Beasts of England

'This is what happens when you lose all you become godless heathens.'

Very persuasive!! And grammatical...

jOr_returns

Marla: LOLOLOL. Do you know what country all the 9/11 hijackers were from?
Look at that list of allies.
China and Russia think we are a big fat joke.

Of course Hillary is the president right now -- that obviously why Hannity is covering her right?

Truly the baby boomers are the worst generation known to man. Given everything and destroying it for everyone else. Truly the absolute worst people.

jOr_returns

Beasts of England: At least I',m not dumb enough to think a country is our ally because they say nice things about Trump and give him some $$$ -- while they fund radical jihadists around the world to attack our country.

Truly the dumbest marks are the baby boomers who support Trump

I can only hope that this year Uncle Paul Ryan and Grampa McConnell dramatically cut your social security and medicare -- so you guys get what you really deserve.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I really don't care what this asshat thinks. I am heading to bed.

Nytol!

lyle

Time passes and yet jor shows back up with the JEF's pubic hair in his teeth. Embarrassing.

lyle

One word, son: floss.

sbw

Catsmeat is right, I am a Romantic

MM, you can be a literary Romantic but it is not a compliment to be a political Romantic.

Think the French Revolution, Karl Marx, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.

Oh, and Obama.

All cherry-pickers of the past to support their beliefs. A pox on them all.

jOr_returns

Marla: Its not what I think... 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. I'm sorry if reality has facts.

 narcisoyea

If not for the framework agreement, north Korea would not have had a direct path to a nuclear arsenal, shockingly Wendy Sherman ehi negotiates that deal, negotiated the Iran deal.

 narcisoyea

They've fired of a half dozen missile test, so now have blasted their nuke testing site from orbit, they deal.

Beasts of England

I'm not relying on social security or Medicare, nor any other non sequuntur.

 narcisoyea

See the dots don't always line up, the way you think they should


https://mobile.twitter.com/Imperator_Rex3/status/948312376855511040?p=v

Catsmeat

No, certainly, sbw, not that kind of burn-it-down Romantic but rather those inspired by the deepest stories (which to the mind of Christians is the same as the deep story of Christ).

daddy

Way late, way behind, so apologies if already posted but this Daily Mail story on Mueller's Grand Jury reminds me of another Mark Twain quote on our Jury System:

Twain: The jury system puts a ban upon intelligence and honesty, and a premium upon ignorance, stupidity and perjury. It is a shame that we must continue to use a worthless system because it was good a thousand years ago...I desire to tamper with the jury law.

Here's the Daily Mail story: Mueller grand jury room 'looks like a Bernie Sanders rally' claims Russia probe witness who says two jurors wore 'peace t-shirts'

A witness who testified before a federal grand jury that handed down indictments of top Trump associates says the president can't get a fair shake and compared the jury room to a Bernie Sanders rally.

The witness claimed two of 20 jurors were wearing 'peace T-shirts,' and popped off on the jury pool to the New York Post's Page Six.

'The grand jury room looks like a Bernie Sanders rally,' the witness said. 'Maybe they found these jurors in central casting, or at a Black Lives Matter rally in Berkeley,' said the witness
.
'There was only one white male in the room, and he was a prosecutor,' said the source...

That room isn't a room where POTUS gets a fair shake,' said the source, using shorthand common in the White House for and D.C. insiders for the president.

More Twain: We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world; and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men every day who don't know anything and can't read.

Captain Hate

jor's already off his meds for 2018. That resolution didn't last long.

jOr_returns

Apparently another wing-nut conspiracy is dead -- Fusion GPS says their dossier wasn't source of FBI investigation. Says GOP is blocking release of transcripts and not investigating financial connections between Trump & Russia.

lolololol ... "but her emails!!!!"

 narcisoyea

I would say more an idealist, with a dose of pragmatism.

Captain Hate

Truly the baby boomers are the worst generation known to man. Given everything and destroying it for everyone else. Truly the absolute worst people.

Music to my ears. Boomers elected the JEF.

sbw

Boomers elected the JEF

Trump is a boomer.

 narcisoyea

But they were ecstatic over the razorback borgia, w has one as well. The same year in fact, so this Milan character was tied to papadopoulos and manafort and maverick.

lyle

I take great gratitude that a) I won't have to live off SS, and b) to paraphrase Schlicter: in 20 years I'll be dead from imbibing expensive wine while losers like jor will still be footing the tab for everyone else. Eat it, son.

Frau Zweitausendachtzehn

Who on JOM is not a boomer?

...not all boomers are skunks.

Captain Hate

Trump is a boomer.

So am I. It doesn't change the complicity of a generation that never tires of talking about how great they are in screwing up the country. Trump is trying to dial back the expansion of the state that happened under a string of boomer Presidents and Congresses. That shouldn't even be a controversial point.

Captain Hate

Porch is too young to be a boomer; so is Elliott. I think Janet, jimmyk and rich are too young also, among the ones I've met.

JimNorCal

For the snow bound ...

Frau Zweitausendachtzehn

Point well taken, CH.

Who shaped the thinking of that generation, however? rse documents who and what is shaping the current generation. The global Open Society is hell on earth.

Captain Hate

Another high colonic for Goodell:

https://iotwreport.com/this-is-going-to-drive-the-left-berserk-the-magafl-a-new-football-league/

Captain Hate

I'm sure not blaming you, Frau; like all social sciency things it's big numbers under the bell curve. But I listened to way too many hubris drenched assholes in college jerking each other off about how enlightened they were to ever not push back against how ignorant they sounded.

Neo

Pennsylvania is about to allow the sale of medical marijuana with the interesting provision that you must surrender your firearms.

JimNorCal

Oppressed Iranian Women Rip Off Veils, Feminists Silent
https://www.truthrevolt.org/news/oppressed-iranian-women-rip-veils-feminists-silent

Frau Zweitausendachtzehn

I didn't feel any blame coming my way, CH.

Boomers - born 1945 (or 1954) - 1964

The period influenced those who became the authentic boomers. I hated the acceptance of drugs and rejection of all moral standards.
I know of at least two of us JOMers who are pre-boomers. The so-called "68ers" produced what we see today in Germany.

jimmyk

CH, regrettably I am a boomer, at least by the usual definition that ends the boom in the early 60s (which includes the JEF). I think boomers are now roughly ages 54-71.

Dave (in MA)
-drive-the-left-berserk-
Doesn't everything?
Frau Zweitausendachtzehn

Putting on a pink pussy hat is brave for American feminists. Taking off a head scarf in Iran today can be deadly for an Iranian female.

 narcisoyea

They are already parked there, hanging over the cliff, perhaps we should rename it rollerball.

jimmyk

In any case, it's kind of stupid to generalize about a generation. Boomers included the idiot hippies and yippies, but also a lot of guys who served bravely in Vietnam

Captain Hate

I wasn't completely sure, jimmyk, and I may have erred on Janet and rich. I just took a guess of how much younger you are than I am.

lyle

Boomers are chock full o' progtards.

Frau Zweitausendachtzehn

jimmyk @ 11:13- I agree that "boomers" is not accurate for all those born during that time.

The idiot boomers who have misguided our country deserve all the contempt we can muster.

Heading for the comfy chair. G'nytall.

JimNorCal

I think Mr Maguire makes a valid point:
"The Democratic-led DoJ couldn't even mount an objective investigation into the behavior of the former Secretary of State turned Democratic Party Presidential front-runner?"

What the Dem-run DOJ did is unethical and illegal but human and understandable. The MSM, though, is simply corrupt and evil.

 narcisoyea

What is the world coming to:

https://.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5230157/Police-robbers-exchange-fire-St-Tropez.html

 narcisoyea

Why would they, its tails they win, heads you lose, they abetted Kim's building up his nuclear arsenal, they not only looked the other way when al quedas was rising they enabled them in the balkans (mind that was salman pere doing in part) they repeated it with Islamic state.

 narcisoyea

Ah and speaking of one of the most unctuous of the 68ers, that wasnt baader meinhof

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/899338/Brexit-EU-Daniel-Cohn-Bendit-EU-deal-Hungary-Poland-Visgard-group

lyle

I believe the boomers are '46 to '64, right?

jimmyk

Cap'n, when I want to sound older I say I was born during the Eisenhower administration. When I want to sound younger I say I was born in the 60s. Both happen to be true.

Dave (in MA)

I think rich is too young to be a boomer aside from maybe his liver.

$28 a Month? Huh?

It amazes me how Republicans simply do not respect law and Order. They continually attack,belittle and demean the men and women who put their lives on the line daily to protect all Americans from harm.


Republicans have launched an endless assault on the F.B.I,THE C.I.A,the N.S.A............all in an effort to protect a man whose intent is to weaken the United States of America,Vladmir Putin.Republicans adore Vladmir Putin.


And here's how you know people like Tom Maguire are shitting their pants on a daily basis.....if Trump truly were innocent of any wrong doing there wouldn't need to be this barage of conspiracy theories and fake scandals thrown out with the express intent of derailing the investigation.


Republicans need to derail the investigation into collusion with Russia because THEY KNOW TRUMP IS HIDING SOMETHING.


Trump said he fired Comey to make the "Russher" investigation go away.....BECAUSE HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE.You don't fire the lead investigator investigating you because you have nothing to hide.


Are you scared yet? You should be.

lyle

Yawn

 narcisoyea

I admire my elders for their wisdom among then many here, but pedants of any generation aggravate me to no end. And its like were growing a bumper crop of them, in test tubes take this punk logan Paul, who doesn't have the decency not to shine a camera on a suicide park in Japan, and broadcast it to the impressionable young.

 narcisoyea

Even though victor thinks their cadres have weakened i still worry.


https://faustasblog.com/2018/01/how-will-the-iranian-protests-affect-latin-america/

Buckeye

I was born at the beginning of the Eisenhower. I didn't have much hair as a baby, and bore some resemblance to the Prez.

My dad's family called me "little Ike" until I was about 10:)

Buckeye

Eisenhower administration

 narcisoyea

Marrow was raving about this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/948414465720094720?p=v

 narcisoyea

This is dissapointing but predictable


https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/01/republicans-reportedly-giving-up-on-florida-27-this-is-a-mistake/

Man Tran

I'm nominally a pre-boomer. I was born one year minus a day before Trump and that makes him practically the first boomer.

In any case, the fact that my mom babysat Goldwater's grandkids kinda drives me off to the right side of the bell curve.

daddy

Catsmeat,

Just caught up to your 07:42 and really enjoyed Chesterton's comments that I had never read before:

The only words that ever satisfied me as describing Nature are the terms used in the fairy books, "charm," "spell," "enchantment." They express the arbitrariness of the fact and its mystery. A tree grows fruit because it is a magic tree. Water runs downhill because it is bewitched. The sun shines because it is bewitched.

He sounds a bit like the young Darwin's effusive praise of Humboldt's marvelous descriptions of his travels in the jungles of South America, fueling young Charle's wanderlust, yet I'm certain GCK was also well aware of the Poet Keats taking offense at Isaac Newton for his optical experiments in "unweaving the rainbow." Dawkin's took that as the name and starting point for one of his books I enjoyed.

Have you by chance read Richard Holme's, The Age of Wonder: How the Romantic Generation Discovered the Beauty and Terror of Science

I thought it a great read as it showed how some of the great Brit poets and the Science boys played off and with each other to mutual benefit and discovery in that very exciting age.

daddy

On Topic! Hannity has on John Solomon, the author of the Hill Piece TM linked and pasted from above. Sean quotes from Solomon's Hill piece then lets Solomon reply:

Hannity:...One Congressman saying the whole thing was rigged, rigged to exonerate her, and not having equal justice under the Law. Explain.

John Solomon: Yeah, you're exactly right. These members of Congress had got a briefing just before the Holidays and this sort of was a cannon load of new information to them... Let's just put it in the context of Russia. If Bob Mueller had exonerated Donald Trump before he had interviewed 17 Key Witnesses there'd be an outcry in Washington. If Bob Mueller had learned that a Key witness had destroyed evidence that was under Subpoena, then lied about it, to conceal that fact that he destroyed it, and instead of prosecuting that person they gave him immunity, we'd be in outrage in Washington. Thats what happened in this case. Lawmakers who got this briefing from Deputy Director McCabe on the 21st of December, were just floored by the level of criminality and concern the FBI had in the outcome. If you'd read the statement from Comey you'd swear they were exonerating her. These lawmakers felt like the FBI had plenty of evidence to prosecute her.

daddy

Then Sara Carter commented about a bit what she knows, and she must have contacts with field agents.

Hannity: ...(Rhetorically) No, we don't like if you're rigging the Justice system for political purposes to help one candidate over another. Isn't that what this is about?

Sara: Sean, it's not just the Congressional members that were surprised by this. Look, the FBI themselves, the FBI field Agents who were working on these cases, not the people on the 7th Floor, not McCabe, not Comey, not Gattis, all these guys on the 7th Floor that were in control of this investigation. But the people that were on the ground collecting the information, were just as angry, were just as angry as the Congressional members were at learning what John reported. We know that there is so much more out there. We know that there is concern that McCabe may have obstructed Justice...this is slowly trickling out...I'm sure we are going to hear more information from the Inspector General, but there was concern within the FBI , so this is not about badmouthing the FBI, this is about the FBI cleansing itself. This is what FBI Agents want to do, both retired and members who are still working there.

glasater

Narciso's 9:59 is very important! Rex makes the case exquisitly with lots of sub threads and links re GPS.

Byron York has a mini twitter thread on the GPS guys wanting the congressional Rs to release the transcript of their testimony..

My suggestion is to print out that testimony of taking the fifth for what was it 21 hours? Charge Fusion GPS one thousand dollars per testimony page..with one word per page...

anonamom

Jane, Kidney Foundation got the car because of the electrical system. It sucked, and drained the battery one time too many.
Plus they came and took it away! First and only time we've done that with a car. Good luck!

----

So, our Congress critters found out on December 21 what we've known for ?a year now? This is just like Ben Ghazi.
Somebody has got to tell them they all need to appoint an aide to read JOM every single day.

And who knows where Rudy Guiliani is, and what he's doing?? Somebody besides us has to know what's gone down. I'm going full MM on this.

N as Miss Marple

Good morning!

I will be back as soon as I have some coffee.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
7h7 hours ago

“President Trump has something now he didn’t have a year ago, that is a set of accomplishments that nobody can deny. The accomplishments are there, look at his record, he has had a very significant first year.” @LouDobbs Show,David Asman & Ed Rollins

rse

I am going to repost what matt wrote towards the end of the previous thread as it is very well said on a crucial issue.

The Hill is reporting that Congress now has hard evidence that FBI officials were exchanging e mails about the criminality of Clinton's e mails and the vast scope of her deception.

And then we have the coverup by Comey and numerous John Doe's so far.The coverup is becoming ever more apparent. Did they think they wouldn't get caught?

This is much worse than anything that has ever occurred in our history.

We have a Secretary of State who brazenly, recklessly, and criminally avoided the proper protocols and OPSEC laws and regulations governing her top secret communications. We then have her bitbeaching and smashing hard drives and cell phones that were under subpoena, for chrissake.

We then have what can only now be described as a conspiracy within the FBI and DoJ to subvert justice and protect an insider.

Between what is going on with the phony dossier and the 3 card monty the Times is trying to pull; the ever flimsier bases for the FISA warrants, Samantha Powers and Susan Rice's criminal violations of security firewalls, and what is now coming out about Uranium One and the pure greed of the Clintons, I don't know how several of them not do hard time.

And this goes all the way to the top. Only Obama and the Ferret could have allowed the backdoor communications networks, the wholesale violations of the 4th Amendment, and the wide scale violation of security.

A good attorney can now connect an awful lot of dots that I would say amount to both proof of criminal conspiracy and RICO crimes.

This is not protected by national security. It is a wholesale violation of national security for criminal purposes.

Tarring Trump with a crazy ass dossier didn't work. Gloria Allred and her millions of donated dirty Democrat dollars and her tramp camp didn't work. The dirty tricks didn't work. Clinton makes Nixon look like the kid who stole a Snickers bar from the corner store, and Obama is right behind her.

Posted by: matt- deplore me if you must | January 02, 2018 at 08:31

Boy, all these stories about mercedes makes me glad I have been driving a lexus for the last 20 years. Hubby insists we all drive something toyota so we only deal with a single repair shop.

Captain Hate

This is dissapointing but predictable

Draining the swamp is child's play compared to adding a spine to the nutless wonders.

rse

I will add to matt's point that abc network news last night accentuated its role in the deep state apparatus by making the lead story after the weather trump's tweet about the deep state and how the tweet implies delusions about dc and support for 'conspiracy theories.'

A knowledge of the facts makes the media itself clearly a vast coordination of desired memes and a coverup of unfortunate ones as matt laid out.

cecelia vega and david muir had on their most serious faces as they tut-tuted about any belief in a deep state while simultaneously verifying their roles in the apparatus. Neither seems capable of appreciating the irony of their narrative.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-02/huma-abedin-forwarded-top-secret-passwords-yahoo-account-hacked-russian-odd-clinton

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/02/women-are-leading-in-iran-where-is-their-voice-support-from-left.html

Miss Marple the Deplorable

The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP

BREAKING: South Korea: North Korea announces it will open cross-border communications in another sign of easing animosity between the rivals.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/899144/Julian-Assange-news-cryptic-tweet-wikileaks-files-embassy-Donald-Trump

This story says he is no longer at the embassy.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/12/its-time-to-pull-the-plug-on-never-trumpism.php

Captain Hate

Pretty boy Muir is as dumb as a brick.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/367141-congressional-investigators-find-irregularities-in-fbis-handling-of?amp

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A comment on Twitter:

#Irregularities is saying this with #KidGlovesOn how about saying they all broke the damn law and colluded on the American ppl to oust our duly elected President. #StopTapDancing around the issue and go to #WAR on the evil doers...#AKATHESWAMP Thanks!

Jack is Back!

All this leaked House G2 Comm. stuff is the equivalent of “war drums”. Something is about to break.

N as Miss Marple

Jack,

Good assessment.

N as Miss Marple

We are supposed toget more snow today. Fox said a stretch of interstate near Talahassee was closed due to ICE.

I am ready for spring!

jimmyk

trump's tweet about the deep state and how the tweet implies delusions about dc and support for 'conspiracy theories.'

That's a convenient fallacy for the left. The Deep State need not involve conspiracy, just a lot of people with vested interests in the status quo, and in covering up their crimes and abuses. It's like saying belief in the Mafia or MS-13 implies support for conspiracy theories.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


J.B. White
‏ @RattlerGator
42m42 minutes ago

I'm sitting at McDonald's watching Floridians do what I did this morning -- take a picture of the ice. This week is gonna freak us out.

rse

jimmy-that's why the word collusion when it is demonstrable is a much more accurate term.

It's also why I usually retort to someone calling me a 'conspiracy theorist', that I never talk or write about a coordinated effort unless I can prove it. Then it is not a theory and since it is provable, we ought to be able to discuss it.

Like 'fake news',
conspiracy theory is an attempt to obfuscate bad facts from public view. It's also why the same story belittled the huma abedin tweet.

James D.

Pretty boy Muir is as dumb as a brick.

That's an insult to bricks.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Such respect for the people of Iran as they try to take back their corrupt government. You will see great support from the United States at the appropriate time!

Porchlight

Looks like I got out of Florida just in time. Pretty darn cold in Texas, though.

Jor is just thumbsucking because 2018 is off to a great start. Farewell, Al Franken - your journey from stealing the election to resigning in disgrace was mostly forgettable. Enjoy your MSNBC gig.

Porchlight

The Omen wishes a Happy New Year to the church of her real dad:

https://dailycaller.com/2018/01/03/chelsea-clinton-wishes-the-church-of-satan-a-happy-new-year/

hrtshpdbox

I haven't been following things nearly closely enough, so I'm wondering - has Steve Bannon gone full retard or what? Shouldn't his wonderful Roy Moore pick move him towards some quiet contemplation of how helpful he's really being?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

Marlene

Good Morning! The daughter and son-in-law arrived home safely. Interstate 10 east of Tallahassee is closed because of ice. The northeast will be shut down tomorrow. A winter hurricane. I worry about Maine,because the late October wind storm was devastating,but at least it was warm. Central Maine Power said the restoration costs from the wind storm will top $15M.

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