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January 31, 2018

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jimmyk

First!

GUS

The shit is about to hit the fan, and the FULL COMMIE is frothing. Kind of like Little Joe Kennedy and his CHAPSTICK.

henry

no response on FBI website. this is fake news. (unless is it McCabes response in the 2 seconds before he got shoved out the door).

Extraneus

As discussed in the prior thread, there's no attribution for this FBI statement. No link. No person making the statement. No reference to it on the FBI's press-release web page.

All of the press outlets are reporting on a "statement" supposedly "released" by the FBI without any evidence that such a statement was released.

henry

"grave concerns" = "the truth was supposed to stay buried"

Jojo

I have grave concerns that the FBI may be a corrupt, untrustworthy organization, especially at the top.

Jojo

I can guess the first question for today's press conference.

henry

other "grave concerns" of the reporters:

Josh Jordan @NumbersMuncher
18m

Monmouth- 2018 Generic Ballot (change from December):
Democrats 47 (-4)
Republicans 45 (+9)

That's a swing of *13* net points to the GOP since last month.

 narcisoyea

It should be 'covered with a pillow until it stops moving, bowditch who would up to mccabe post, was the lead agent in San Bernardino, when all the evidence was contaminated.

Jane

Well I think the memo will be released Monday morning, but I really want it to be released at 3:00PM today.

Dave (in MA)

https://twitter.com/sean_spicier/status/958779219365986307 Hey, batter batter.

 narcisoyea

If one believes Barton gelman ray was on the march 2004 conspirators.

Extraneus

Washington Examiner, Gateway Pundit, and now here's Chuck Ross:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/31/fbi-makes-last-ditch-effort-to-block-release-of-secret-spy-memo/

All "reporting" on a "statement" that no one has actually seen made and isn't linked except to a HuffPo writer's twitter.

I think I'll wait to hear from Catherine Herridge.

Old Lurker

Jane, 3pm today is too soon. You were right this morning the let the SOTU speech and Dem reactions enjoy center stage for a few days.

That said, I do wish they would pour cold water on the alleged FBI "statement".

henry

Just shows how good the SOTU was. They gotta fake quote the memo now.

Threadkiller

Last time we went through this was Trump's drumming on Bannon over the Wolfe book.

The Whitehouse statement was to the pool reporter and it took quite some time for it to be printed verbatim.

I suspect this to be mostly true but inaccurate to the favor of the dems.

 narcisoyea

Some days its better to stay home:

https://www.thelocal.fr/20180131/islam-scholar-tariq-ramadan-arrested-in-france-over-rape/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Extraneus

And here's Alex Pappas from Fox News. Same unsourced, unlinked "statement."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/31/fbi-has-grave-concerns-about-omissions-in-surveillance-memo.html

henry

good thing they have layers of editors verifying their sources. /sarc

Jack is Back!

In New York currency is money. In DC its information. If the FBI hasn't shot down that statement then they are either playing footsy or they want to see where it goes in the media before they shoot it down.

Are we sure General Flynn isn't around anymore? This is the kind of trick right up his alley.

Extraneus

There are 6 FBI press releases from today's date. The so-called statement isn't there.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel

Jojo

That "FBI" statement seems more like a leaked excerpt from the Dem counter-memo

Threadkiller

To look at the twitter image I am even more certain it is a statement to a pool reporter and it is legit.

daddy

TM,

I won't be satisfied until I get some Withering Questions to go with those Grave Concerns.

Old Lurker

Bingo, Jack.

henry

Statement to a pool reporter? then who made it? Name a name if it's legit.

Eric in Boise

"So, you're gravely concerned because you feel it's inaccurate?"

"No, we're gravely concerned because we know it is."

Old Lurker

fdcol63 is hanging out at the end of the previous thread!

Threadkiller

All I'm saying is that it looks legit to the worst conspiracy oriented mind at JOM.

A name will get named soon, IMO.

Appalled

If there is a statement, there is either an e-mail address or a facsimile copy, or a human being who goes with it.

Like to know the e-mail address this thing is coming from. I have a feeling that would end all the "it's not real" speculation.

jimmyk on iPhone

Strange, the WSJ refers to a statement in quotation marks, and claims in a photo caption that Wray himself "urged" that the memo not be released.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-expected-to-release-contested-memo-on-2016-campaign-1517418951

Probably behind the paywall.

daddy

Listening to Trish and her eggheads going on and on about how it should or shouldn't be released but if it is released we need to have experts explain what it means when we do see it.

Just give is the Memo and STHU.

We're intelligent enough to interpret it.

When Sarah Palin's E-mail trove was released and the NYTimes and the MSM asked for citizen volunteers to scour the E-Mails did they give a rats ass about the public not being expert enough to interpret the E-Mails? Hell no.

Give us the memo and shut up, and if we have questions about it after, then we'll ask about it. These people make me sick.

Louk

Publicly, Wray needs to "urge" the memo not be released to keep his flunkies at the FBI happy. He doesn't want the FBI to appear to be part of the anti-Mueller crew. That's Nunes role.

henry

Appalled, here is Bloomberg's sourcing (the earliest I've found):

FBI Director Christopher Wray told the White House he opposes release of a classified Republican memo alleging bias at the FBI and Justice Department because it contains inaccurate information and paints a false narrative, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The FBI came close to publicly opposing the memo’s release, saying in a statement Wednesday that it has “grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

"a person familiar with the matter" who? Comey? McCabe? This is utter bullshit.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-31/amid-publicity-tour-porn-star-denies-affair-with-trump

Threadkiller

Nobody is reporting that an anonymous source released a statement. They are saying the FBI released a statement.

All of the networks, cable shows, and papers got the Sum Ting Wong treatment?

Unlikely.

Extraneus

You called it first, henry.

henry


Brit Hume
@brithume

Maybe it will turn out that there are “material omissions of fact” in the House Intel memo, but on the face of it, that’s another way of saying the memo’s factual assertions are taken out of context. We’ve heard that before from people & institutions embarrassed by revelations.

daddy

FBI Director Christopher Wray told the White House he opposes release of a classified Republican memo alleging bias at the FBI and Justice Department because it contains inaccurate information and paints a false narrative

Supposing this is true, then after it is released Wray will be able to publicly comment on what parts he finds inaccurate and what parts paint a false narrative. Then since it is out in the open we can put him back under Oath and start grilling him and find out if he's lying or mistaken. Let's just go sentence by sentence thru the Memo and have him say "True" or "False."

Threadkiller

https://www.c-span.org/video/?440507-1/house-democratic-leaders-criticize-presidents-state-union-address

See how long you can last watching this. Any loss the Republicans incur this election cycle will be solely of their own doing. The Dems are nuts.

Old Lurker

"Publicly, Wray needs to "urge" the memo not be released to keep his flunkies at the FBI happy. He doesn't want the FBI to appear to be part of the anti-Mueller crew. That's Nunes role."

Bullshit.

He is either part of the solution or he is part of the problem. Nobody at the FBI deserves any presumption of innocence since the entire organization has been trashed top to bottom by helping Obama and Clinton rape the Constitution.

He was either hired by Trump to fix it top to bottom, or he snuck in there to protect the Swamp while his AG snoozes.

Jury is still out on both of them.

jimmyk

I'm guessing the phrase "factual omissions" from one statement has been translated into "inaccurate information," which will then become "lies," even though earlier stories said there were no factual inaccuracies in the memo. Funny how that works.

Extraneus

I agree, OL. The rank and file will be glad when the place is fully cleaned out. Five top people have already been removed or reassigned. Time for those people to face the music for real.

The honest people know, and they'd be disappointed in Wray if he weren't helping with the fumigation.

Extraneus

Michael Wolff: Haley Has ‘Embraced’ Rumors of Affair With Trump

Extraneus

WSJ Editorial Board Calls On Trump To Release The Memo

YELLOWCAKE  SNAKES!

Release the frakin Kraken already

President Donald Trump has just a few days to decide whether he will support a move to release the memo, which could be public as soon as this week.

100 percent doofuses
.

cathyf

Well of course an only-four-page memo is going to have "factual omissions". Take it from somebody who struggles every day in both writing and speech to exercise the virtue of conciseness-- the only way you keep it under 20,000 pages is to elide out some stuff!

#CannotTweet

Threadkiller

Michael Medved was rocked by the SOTU. "He surprised eveyone, Arthur Brooks must have got to him and worked his magic."

Who is Arthur Brooks?

henry

TK, maybe Arthur Brooks put out the "FBI statement"

Jane

TOM FITTON: Mueller FBI Implicated in Lois Lerner IRS Scandal – Robert Mueller Cannot be Trusted (VIDEO)
TOM FITTON: Mueller FBI Implicated in Lois Lerner IRS Scandal – Robert Mueller Cannot be Trusted (VIDEO)

http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/tom-fitton-mueller-fbi-implicated-lois-lerner-irs-scandal-robert-mueller-cannot-trusted-video/

Thomas Collins

Uh-oh. Grave concerns. We need Top Men to vet the memo. Bring on Duke and Duke!

http://www.unsungfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/trading-places_03.jpg

Old Lurker

tru dat, Cathy.

It was only a blink of an eye in the recent past when all of our hopes were hanging on the imminent release of thousands of pages from the sainted IG.

Then that "promise" was flipped to being somebody's four page summary of the full report and that was accepted by Charlie Browns everywhere as a fair trade.

Now all they have to do is discredit those four pages and POOF, problem solved.

jimmyk

Maybe we should start an unsourced rumor that Mueller and Lerner were having an affair. Eww.

daddy

test

Threadkiller

If the FBI put out a statement that said the first statement was not put out by them, would it need to be attributed to something more specific than "the FBI?"

fdcol63

"Maybe we should start an unsourced rumor that Mueller and Lerner were having an affair. Eww."

How do we know they WEREN'T? LOL

jimmyk

Brooks is head of the American Enterprise Institute. It's reputation is somewhat GOPe, but it's fairly diverse.

henry

WI deep state still trying to hang on with John Doe jerks in charge.

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2018/01/elections-commission-continues-to-defy-will-of-senate-in-john-does-shadow/

Jane

Start it on twitter jimmy. See how far it goes.

Kaiser Derden

out of context ???? everyday President Trump is called a racist for tweets taken out of context ... so the FBI can "explain" later anything that on its face looks really bad ...

fdcol63

Quite frankly, I don't trust ANYTHING the FBI, CIA, NSA, or any of these Deep Staters say or report anymore.

Obama politicized and weaponized them all.

Extraneus

I think the 1.2 million pages of IG evidence was supposed to have been turned over to the Judiciary Committee by 1/15. This 4-page memo comes from the Intelligence Committee, based on information the DoJ handed over after threatened subpoenas.

Old Lurker

fdcol "Obama politicized and weaponized them all."

AND they liked it and went along willingly.

daddy

Prager University has put up a new video lecture by Jordan Peterson, the Canadian Psychologist so much in the news lately. It's 5 minutes long, titled "FIX YOURSELF" and it's full of common sense.

Unfortunately, Safari will not allow me to post a link to it, which is no surprise since so many of Dennis Prager's lessons have been banned from the internet.

I would recommend that if anyone wants to see it that they google Dennis Prager videos and click on the latest posted video titled "FIX YOURSELF."

That it will not post via a regular link is another example I suspect of Big Brother revealing how much they hate us.

Amazingly the internet has banned the posting of any sentence that reads "prager u dot com" just me typing the sentence . That sentence typed all together with no spaces between the letters will not post.

The Brave New World is already here on the internet.

matt - deplore me if you must

Two separate issues, OL. Let's hope they both get released. The IG report seems to have been toned down and we cannot necessarily trust the carney barkers touting the Nunes memo, but there seems to be some fire behind the smoke.

I am wondering how Gowdy's decision ties into this. A lot of senior Republicans bailing out.

Deep State defeat or further undermining of our democratic processes. I'm suspicious of all of them.

Extraneus

Yes, because they expected to be rewarded by Hillary. Comey to lead CIA, McCabe to take over FBI, etc.

Jane

http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/deep-state-deep-panic-fbi-releases-statement-grave-concerns-omissions-fisa-memo-implicates-fbi/

I don't quite get it, but you may.

jimmyk

Well of course an only-four-page memo is going to have "factual omissions".

No doubt it omitted the fact that the boiling point of water is 100 degrees Celsius, for example.

fdcol63

And as we lament how much of our faith and confidence we've lost in ALL of these major institutions and government agencies, remember:

This has been the Left's goal all along, in their pursuit of Antonio Gramsci's "long march" strategy.

d.u.d.a

"Supposing this is true, then after it is released Wray will be able to publicly comment on what parts he finds inaccurate and what parts paint a false narrative"

No, he won't you fuckin moron because to fill in the blanks of a cherry picked memo he'd have to release even more classified information. He may have to now because of your recklessness.


I can tell you this;the Nunes napkin had better reveal serious,serious fucking abuses of the FISA court.


It had better find that all the people involved in every single step of securing/continuing said warrant were involved in a conspiracy, at least 56 law enforcement professionals.......56 lawyers,judges etc who went out of their way to intentionally commit a serious crime/abuse of the rule of law.


If it turns out to be another Nunes horseshit fake scandal.....a fake scandal simply proven by filing in the blanks and providing some context, which is something democrats and the FBI director Chris wray says it is then it looks like Republicans intentionally released classified information to help the President beat a criminal wrap.

Holy shit.Imagine intentionally undermining the FBI just to help Russia get away with attacking the United States?

That's treason.

Extraneus

Bernie Surrogate: God Willed GOP Retreat Train Crash to ‘Clean Up the Stink’

Borrito

"Chad Pergram‏Verified account
@ChadPergram

Nunes on memo: Having stonewalled Congress’ demands for information for nearly a year, it’s no surprise to see the FBI and DOJ issue spurious objections to allowing the American people to see information related to surveillance abuses at these agencies.

12:02 PM - 31 Jan 2018

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/958792636927639552

Chad Pergram‏Verified account
@ChadPergram

Nunes on memo: It’s clear that top officials used unverified information in a court document to fuel a counter-intelligence investigation during an American political campaign.

12:03 PM - 31 Jan 2018"

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/958792814242000898

Dave (in MA)

At least he didn't shoot anybody at baseball practice, Ext.


Yet.

Old Lurker

Confusing, Jane.

Sessions, Wray and the others are (OK, seem to be) acting as if their organizations have credibility, reverance and the trust of the citizens and they want to preserve that.

To think that, they have to be laughably unaware that none of them have any such thing any more and that their job is to try to earn it back, not protect what they already squandered.

Threadkiller

Nunes fell for the FBI statement?

fdcol63

Bingo, OL!

Tom R

Is Gowdy leaving Congress so that he can be appointed as the US Attorney for SC or is he looking for a judgeship and potential SCOTUS nomination down the road?

Captain Hate

Amazingly the internet has banned the posting of any sentence that reads "prager u dot com" just me typing the sentence . That sentence typed all together with no spaces between the letters will not post.

The Brave New World is already here on the internet.

I assume you understand how flying works better than the Internet. I just posted "Prager u dot com" without the spaces at the end of a dead thread at AoS. http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=373625#Bot

DebinNC

More on train crash .. Witness said he didn't sense any effort to slow/stop before the crash. Unless visibility was close to nil, it seems highly suspicious imo.

Rocco

Ain't it great watching them squirm! Someone with authority should release a presser stating the memo will be released at 9:00 PM est, then cancel it just to mess with them!

Dave (in MA)

Howie Carr's protege:


Elizabeth Warren@elizabethforma
I went to the #SOTU. I wanted it burned into my eyes. If there’s ever a moment when I’m too tired to keep fighting, I just have to close my eyes & see @realDonaldTrump , @mike_pence & @pryan applauding themselves for punching working families in the gut, & I'm back in this fight.
Steve Robinson@BigSteve207
"Punching working families in the gut" is Cherokee for "letting people keep more of their money.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Well, I am unfamiliar with Arthur Brooks but that speech was 100% Trump if anyone had bothered to do research on the man. For example, one could go watch his 1988 interview with Oprah which was done when he was in his 30's. Many of the same sentiments were reflected in that interview.

Here is what the pundits don't get. Trump really BELIEVES what he says. He is not making nice for the cameras or the democrats. When he says that they govern for the people, he really means it. That was the whole point of his campaign.

When he said you have to govern with heart, not just dollars and sense, he means it.

Family? He's all about his own family, so he believes most of the country cares about theirs as well.

Like many men of his age, he is not accustomed to expressing emotion in public.
However, he expresses his emotion with action, and the results speak for themselves.


Clarice Feldman

Tom Lipscomb This “memo”[story] makes no operational sense. Wray obviously cleared the 4 pager and fired McCabe.

Why would he allow a memo like this to be leaked? Trump knows Wray cleared it. Why would Wray set himself up for a confrontation, NOW?

Kevlar Kid

News of the problems the cash-starving, fun-loving Mullahs of Iran face with 12 million people starving unable to find real food---even from the black market:

In an attempt to suppress the revolt, both factions inside the regime pretend that the uprising is extinct and everything is now back to normal, but the root cause of unrest -- the dire economic situation of millions of poor people – remains. For a regime with a record of 63 condemnations in the U.N. General Assembly for its flagrant violations of human rights, the gap between the people and the government is so deep that it will only be healed by the collapse of mullah’s government.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/iran__what_will_come_next.html#ixzz55nVtdaFX
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

Rocco

Chapstick Joe met his wife in Warren's class at Harvard. Just an FYI.

Captain Hate

dumbassdave is so nervous he kissed his whore girlfriend and beat Pope Che's foot with coal shovel.

Janet 🚬

Fix Yourself - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o73pqQ9Gzt4&feature=share

RattlerGator

That said, I do wish they would pour cold water on the alleged FBI "statement".

Posted by: Old Lurker | January 31, 2018 at 02:15 PM

Look here, Mr-New-Zealand-Here-I-Come (you know, you and fdcol63 talk much the same yang now that I think about it), why pour cold water? Why ???

Have you not figured out that all of this works to *our* advantage? In fact, *our* side may be stoking the fire because it increases attention on a document devastating to Democrats.

Kick back, man. Have a cocktail. Wait on Beasts of England to tell us later on whether this chick coming over is good crazy or bad crazy. Because right now we have 99 problems but the FBI ain't one. Neither is the DOJ. Scalps matter, and scalps have been attained. Scalps lead to skulls. Bank on it.

* * *

Publicly, Wray needs to "urge" the memo not be released to keep his flunkies at the FBI happy. He doesn't want the FBI to appear to be part of the anti-Mueller crew. That's Nunes role.

Posted by: Louk | January 31, 2018 at 02:43 PM

Bingo.

henry

Side by side of "statement to be attributed to FBI"* and Nunes response.

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/958803828832329728?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eph.telegra.Telegraph.Share%7Ctwcon%5E7100%7Ctwterm%5E0

*that is at the top of the statement itself.

Kevlar Kid

Warren the Tool Bag: the millionaire is "tired"

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

https://twitter.com/KatieBoWill/status/958754904461512704/photo/1

Settles the provenance...

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jamie Dupree posted a side-by-side of the purported FBI memo and Nunes' statement:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU5a__qWsAEbp_N.jpg:large

ChiTown called this to my attention, and it is his opinion Nenes knows where that statement came from. (For all we know, it could be McCabe.)

Threadkiller

The trash truck involved in the wreck is a style we don't see out here anymore. We have the single driver articulated arm trucks. That one has the platforms where the trashmen stand as they go house to house. I wonder if any of the victims were hanging on the back when the collision occurred. Awful.

PDinDetroit

Posted by: DebinNC | January 31, 2018 at 03:42 PM

... when it hit the truck in Crozet, Virginia, which is west of Charlottesville

Hmm...

fdcol63

<----- waves to RG!

We need to get together again!

Threadkiller

Tommy
@Stemhovi1ichski
·
9m
Who issued it? What time was it issued? Why can't it be verified? Which office issued? Why isn't it an official release on the FBI website? Lots of questions.


@jamiedupree
·
8m
There are no questions at all


Tommy
@Stemhovi1ichski
·
8m
Have you seen the FBI statement?


@jamiedupree
·
8m
I jut put a screenshot of the FBI statement up

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/958803828832329728/photo/1


or not...

Clarice Feldman

Tom Lipscomb :Smells to me like this the equivalent of Schiff’s phantom minority report from the Dems on the 4 pager. With the press this incompetent you can float about anything. Look at how much mileage Schiff got...he stopped Bret Beirs Report dead for 10 min of prime news airtime

fdcol63

" ... Because right now we have 99 problems but the FBI ain't one. Neither is the DOJ. Scalps matter, and scalps have been attained. Scalps lead to skulls. Bank on it. ..."

As they say, the fish rots from the head. Just depends on how DEEP the rot has already gotten.

8 years is a LONG time.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Thomas Wictor has a few words of wisdom for Bill Kristol:

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/958799914149937152

Old Lurker

RG, to jump to the important part of your post, that girl is NOT good for Beasts. And he knows it. But she does have her hooks in him. Wimmen are like that sometimes.

:-)

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